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Re: Skate insights/secrets
« Reply #120 on: April 27, 2017, 02:14:32 PM »
Anyone got tips for front crooks. I can always get into them but can never hold it long enough. I get to the "pinch" part but always stop. idk

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Re: Skate insights/secrets
« Reply #121 on: April 27, 2017, 02:17:27 PM »
Good topic! I'm hyped to go skate. Here's a few things I've noticed--

Flick kickflips straighter rather than off the side to get em to turn backside (backside flips, kickflip backside grinds, flip front boards etc)

Bigspin flips are just backside flips with a scoop.

Nollie heelflip: Stay square on your board, rather than pointing yourself forward like with a straight nollie, to keep it flat. I find when my feet are pointed forwards that's when my board goes for the nuts.

Frontside 360: Try not to hang the your front toes, even though it feels better to for the windup.

No-comply flip: Just do it like a no-comply shuvit. The board hitting the curb on a slight angle is what makes it flip

Front crooks: Try have minimal heel hanging off when you pop. Back foot does fuck all, just keep it out of the way.

Front nose: Make sure to tip-toe the front foot. Underturn it slightly like a front crook to make it slide better.

5-0 180 (both ways) can be done like tailslide fakies, just a prolonged 180 turn that incorporates the ledge. Once you get that down it's easy to learn to sit on them.

Switch heel grind: I've found the trick is to sit your back foot in the heel side pocket, rather than the tip of the tail, then after popping, kick your back foot behind you, the opposite side to your front foot (almost like you're doing a switch tre). It feels strange but it's the only way I've ever managed to do it.

Bigspin front board: I do it like I'm gonna do a pop shuv front crooks. It gets my front truck over the rail, and into a sloppy willy-style front board that naturally continues the rotation once I'm sliding. Because I don't do it like a bigspin, my shoulders stay straight and I get a nice front board. If i do it like a bigspin, my back truck usually hits the rail cause of too much scoop, and even if I do make it up, it's a sloppy front board.

Front board pop out fakie: Aim to pop out into a back 180 nosegrind

Kickflip over something: I've found that there's two ways to do this. You can either Jeremy Wray it by having your foot all the way on your board. This will pop it high, but it will flip much slower so you gotta tuck your knees up. This way works better if you got a bump. The other way is to late flick it. Have your foot a little further off, and flick once your ollie is starting to even out. These ones are more easy to control but are less wild.

Nollie backside heel: Speed and late flick. Flick a little more off the side than a straight nollie heel so you don't kick it into a nollie bigheel

Shuvit flip: Back foot pop shove, front foot kickflip makes it nice and poppy. If you do the flip and the shove with the front foot you end up with a little kid looking one.

Backside powerslide: Dip your head in when you're learning so that if you fuck up you'll end up doing a 180 one instead of getting pitched. This way you learn to hold on to them early on too

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Re: Skate insights/secrets
« Reply #122 on: April 27, 2017, 02:28:58 PM »
Anyone got tips for front crooks. I can always get into them but can never hold it long enough. I get to the "pinch" part but always stop. idk

I had a similar problem while learning them.  I focus on leaning back,  keeping the weight on my front foot equal throughout my foot if not more on the heel-side, and keeping my shoulders square with the ledge/rail.

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Re: Skate insights/secrets
« Reply #123 on: April 27, 2017, 02:41:20 PM »
wallride:
    - keep your body loose
    - imagine doing a kickturn on a steep quarterpipe or bank

back 360:
    - don't even think about using your front foot. Simply tuck your knee/lift your front foot straight up to get it out of the way after you pop
    - don't pop until your upper body is already rotated at least 90 degrees
    - if you can bigspin or impossible, I'm confident you can back 3

back smith:
    - to prevent stickage, ollie earlier/gap into the ledge so you get on smoothly instead of trying to hop on immediately

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Re: Skate insights/secrets
« Reply #124 on: April 27, 2017, 02:46:32 PM »
Front crooks - foot on two front bolts pop and smash your foot down on while leaning back but all your weight on the front foot
Loosening your trucks will help you land stuff
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Re: Skate insights/secrets
« Reply #125 on: April 27, 2017, 02:48:48 PM »
all your weight on the front foot

Didn't even think about it, but I second this.

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Re: Skate insights/secrets
« Reply #126 on: April 27, 2017, 02:54:25 PM »
wallride:
    - keep your body loose
    - imagine doing a kickturn on a steep quarterpipe or bank


Yah I pretend there's a small transition at the bottom of the wall. It's almost as if the imaginary transition is created by the triangle of your board when the front trucks are on the wall and back trucks still on the ground, and then you ride that onto the wall. Sounds a little schizophrenic but it works.

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Re: Skate insights/secrets
« Reply #127 on: April 27, 2017, 04:14:09 PM »
Who's got the juice on FS Ollies in transition ala Grant Taylor? Or just FS Airs at all......

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« Reply #128 on: April 27, 2017, 04:31:22 PM »
Who's got the juice on FS Ollies in transition ala Grant Taylor? Or just FS Airs at all......
Imagine popping over a pyramid/flybox/curbcut how you stay over top of your board leaning forward, now put the ramp vertical...same thing but different.

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« Reply #129 on: April 27, 2017, 04:45:44 PM »
Not a tip but that Insta vid that strobeckk uploaded of Pablo doing a back 3 in slow motion really incorporates what you guys have been saying. His body has turned 180 before the board even lifts

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Re: Skate insights/secrets
« Reply #130 on: April 27, 2017, 06:54:42 PM »
for ledges with skate stoppers drilled in, heat them up with burning mulch to soften them up then knock them shits out with a hammer

when you wax a ledge, rub a tall can over that shit to even out the wax

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Re: Skate insights/secrets
« Reply #131 on: April 27, 2017, 07:12:34 PM »
wear a suit to skate business buildings, so when security comes you can hide the board and claim you were on a smoke break and the skate rascal went the other way

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Re: Skate insights/secrets
« Reply #132 on: April 27, 2017, 08:48:59 PM »
Sticking on front crooks usually means you're popping too high. You gotta ollie so you just get on it, and sort of push it forwards like a melon tweaker rather than popping up. It's one of those tricks that is sometimes easier on a taller ledge for that reason.
Otherwise, you could be putting too much weight on the heel side. They tend to grind best when your weight is over toward the ledge (try and think of the back foot in the iconic front crook position, dangling off and almost gripped around the toe side. This should give you a good idea of where your weight should be)

While we're on front crooks, anyone know the secret for a good pop out? I can sorta yank it out like a front nose, but whenever i try do the little nollie pop thing like on a nosegrind or backside crook i either get a ruthless air foot or the board does this sketchy rocket nollie flip

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Re: Skate insights/secrets
« Reply #133 on: April 27, 2017, 11:09:46 PM »
for ledges with skate stoppers drilled in, heat them up with burning mulch to soften them up then knock them shits out with a hammer

Elaborate a little...a bag of mulch?

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Re: Skate insights/secrets
« Reply #134 on: April 28, 2017, 06:49:47 AM »
Sticking on front crooks usually means you're popping too high. You gotta ollie so you just get on it, and sort of push it forwards like a melon tweaker rather than popping up. It's one of those tricks that is sometimes easier on a taller ledge for that reason.
Otherwise, you could be putting too much weight on the heel side. They tend to grind best when your weight is over toward the ledge (try and think of the back foot in the iconic front crook position, dangling off and almost gripped around the toe side. This should give you a good idea of where your weight should be)

While we're on front crooks, anyone know the secret for a good pop out? I can sorta yank it out like a front nose, but whenever i try do the little nollie pop thing like on a nosegrind or backside crook i either get a ruthless air foot or the board does this sketchy rocket nollie flip

That means your not centered over the board. When you are, pressure on the front foot and just a lil hop and it pops out. Way easier to learn at the end of a ledge as opposed to mid ledge. It's fuckin hard to pop outta that that trick mid ledge
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Re: Skate insights/secrets
« Reply #135 on: April 28, 2017, 12:54:18 PM »
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Who's got the juice on FS Ollies in transition ala Grant Taylor? Or just FS Airs at all......
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Imagine popping over a pyramid/flybox/curbcut how you stay over top of your board leaning forward, now put the ramp vertical...same thing but different.

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« Reply #136 on: April 28, 2017, 02:30:12 PM »
I learned ss fs 360 on flat ground by tricking myself into thinking i was doing a caballerial.
Nollie kickfliping down curbs is the exact same as going really fast and doing them flatground
try to refrain from punching little kids that do pressure flips in games of skate; feel free to punch grown ass men who do pressure flips in games of skate
and with that pressure flips are like impossibles or 360 shuv its, but tweak your ankle into making your board do the inward heelflip

damn, i've been trying to learn ss fs 360s for some time and never thought of doing it like this

also, any 180 trick is easier at higher speed because they automatically straighten if you land crooked
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Re: Skate insights/secrets
« Reply #137 on: April 29, 2017, 05:11:49 AM »
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Re: Skate insights/secrets
« Reply #138 on: April 29, 2017, 01:27:47 PM »
Kickflip: the only way I seem to have them kinda consistent is flipping them after I pop an ollie.. sometimes I get T-Puds flips sometimes the board won't flip, like a straight no comply, and I don't look very smart.. seriously frustrating trick.

Nollie flip/sw flip: the key for me is in 'duck feet'. I go full penguin mode and put them very angled, front foot in the pocket.

Throw on here your knowledge on transition skating, I'm trying to get better at it. Today I learned fs 5050 on a small quarter.
Bs disaster is a bit intimidating. I can do them frontside but I still can figure them out backside. Sometimes I try them as a over rotated bs smith but the hang up factor is high, so yeah what do you suggest?
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« Reply #139 on: April 29, 2017, 03:10:10 PM »
a lot of peoples issue with learning back disasters is that they're trying it on the mellowest ramp at the park, which seems rational (smaller = safer) but if you're trying it on a 3 foot ramp thats basically a bank its not gonna work correctly. that was my issue at first, at least. i had absolutely no clue how to do them and it felt completely foreign, and once i tried it on a slightly bigger ramp it worked perfectly. its a really weird motion to learn but once you do its pretty intuitive after that.

how bout this one pals???? backside tailslide on transition? I've been able to do them on ledges for many many moons but on a ramp feels so out of reach. even doing a backside tailstall on a qp sometimes doesnt even feel natural. i have friends that can do them and can't do them on ledges and it looks so natural and fun.



I use the similar technique for both. You wanna learn using a sweep style back 180. Like when you sweep and turn, not pop.

Both tricks are actually very easy and once you get it it's basically on lock

This also works for backtails on lower ledges/curbs. Just be centered because it will slide waxed or not
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« Reply #140 on: April 29, 2017, 04:46:20 PM »
a lot of peoples issue with learning back disasters is that they're trying it on the mellowest ramp at the park, which seems rational (smaller = safer) but if you're trying it on a 3 foot ramp thats basically a bank its not gonna work correctly. that was my issue at first, at least. i had absolutely no clue how to do them and it felt completely foreign, and once i tried it on a slightly bigger ramp it worked perfectly. its a really weird motion to learn but once you do its pretty intuitive after that.

how bout this one pals???? backside tailslide on transition? I've been able to do them on ledges for many many moons but on a ramp feels so out of reach. even doing a backside tailstall on a qp sometimes doesnt even feel natural. i have friends that can do them and can't do them on ledges and it looks so natural and fun.



Try focusing on getting into a 5-0 and then last second scoop into the back tail, scoop it reeeaaally late like straight feel getting on top of the coping sitting on a 5-0 then scoop 90. I can't actually slide them for shit but I can at least get into a stall, whenever i dont think about it like that and try to get "directly into back tail" i end up stalling a foot below the coping and slipping out. hope that helps.

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Re: Skate insights/secrets
« Reply #141 on: April 30, 2017, 05:53:02 AM »
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I learned ss fs 360 on flat ground by tricking myself into thinking i was doing a caballerial.
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damn, i've been trying to learn ss fs 360s for some time and never thought of doing it like this
I just learnt ss fs 360 powerslides yesterday and yeah, if you wind up like a cab, they come pretty easy. maybe I'll try the ollie version next?

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« Reply #142 on: April 30, 2017, 06:13:34 AM »
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I learned ss fs 360 on flat ground by tricking myself into thinking i was doing a caballerial.
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damn, i've been trying to learn ss fs 360s for some time and never thought of doing it like this
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I just learnt ss fs 360 powerslides yesterday and yeah, if you wind up like a cab, they come pretty easy. maybe I'll try the ollie version next?

Lol, that's harder than a cab Imo
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Re: Skate insights/secrets
« Reply #143 on: April 30, 2017, 11:23:14 AM »
I've been working on the timing of the jump so I can get my tricks higher. Any tips on timing like when to jump and pop? I would really appreciate it.

For Kickflips, I focus on dragging my foot straight forward like how you level out an ollie but instead of doing it in the center of the nose, I do it right through the pocket. The closer my drag through the center of the nose, the more it bones out.

For Fs Smiths, I make sure I push the nose forward as I'm about to get on the ledge.

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Re: Skate insights/secrets
« Reply #144 on: April 30, 2017, 11:56:17 AM »
a lot of peoples issue with learning back disasters is that they're trying it on the mellowest ramp at the park, which seems rational (smaller = safer) but if you're trying it on a 3 foot ramp thats basically a bank its not gonna work correctly. that was my issue at first, at least. i had absolutely no clue how to do them and it felt completely foreign, and once i tried it on a slightly bigger ramp it worked perfectly. its a really weird motion to learn but once you do its pretty intuitive after that.

how bout this one pals???? backside tailslide on transition? I've been able to do them on ledges for many many moons but on a ramp feels so out of reach. even doing a backside tailstall on a qp sometimes doesnt even feel natural. i have friends that can do them and can't do them on ledges and it looks so natural and fun.



 I was gonna make almost the exactly same post as this, same tricks and all, haha. Another tip for back disasters is that you have to pop earlier than you would think. Otherwise you just sit on top and it looks bad, or you don't get into it at all. Same for back lips, just at an angle.


I really wanna learn back tailslides on ramps cuz they look super fun. I can stall them really well and can even do back crails, but no matter how much of an angle I go or how fast I seem to just stop dead in my tracks.

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Re: Skate insights/secrets
« Reply #145 on: April 30, 2017, 11:57:18 AM »
I watched this over and over for Bobby's switch heel because he has some weird ass foot placement and an amazing switch heel. When I went out and tried it like him, I actually figured it out and landed a few :')




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« Reply #146 on: April 30, 2017, 12:29:05 PM »
Not sure who said the inward heelflip tip but it actually works!

It's still too ahead of my level but, I'm actually really close to landing them fakie. 
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Re: Skate insights/secrets
« Reply #147 on: April 30, 2017, 12:58:33 PM »
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« Reply #148 on: April 30, 2017, 01:00:59 PM »
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The no jacking off thing before skating is real, whether it's mental or not. I'll even avoid sex the night before skating sometimes. I guess a good sesh outweighs hormones a bit as you get older.

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