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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1110 on: December 05, 2020, 03:10:26 PM »
Im trying to learn fs 180 switch manuals but with the exception of a fluke here and there, canít seem to find the balance point to get into the manual.

Anyone have any advice?

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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1111 on: December 06, 2020, 01:01:54 AM »
Try facing forward before you pop and keep shoulder turning to a minimum. To compensate, scoop the back foot in the pocket a lot more than you would for a regular front 180.
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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1112 on: December 06, 2020, 01:16:45 AM »
Nollie fs 180. I have every other 180 motion locked but Iíve always struggled with this variation the most for some reason. I can land them 40% of the time sketchy but itís maybe 5% thatís actually popped and clean. In fact today, after a long session of trying semi dangerous tricks on rails and stairs, a nollie fs 180 on flatground tweaked my ankle and ended my session.
 
I try to think of it like a halfcab when setting up my feet and how I move my shoulders but it feels so different. How do you guys set up for it?

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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1113 on: December 06, 2020, 01:23:36 AM »
For nollie fs 180s I sort of hang a bit of my heel off the pocket with my toes middle of the nose and have my back foot sort of mid foot, maybe a bit heelside. I actually love that trick, I'm very consistent with them but I don't pop them too high either so Idk.
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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1114 on: December 06, 2020, 04:26:19 PM »
Fakie flip and fakie heel. I am always sleeping out. I never stay on the board.
Also half cab, I know I should just try for an hour but I always forget. I only do them in games of SKATE. I can still do them but they are ugly as fuck. And when I try to pop them it does a weird half cab heel.

Try doing it to Fakie 50 on a good curb. Sounds weird but it will trap the board so you can meet up with it.

Like Fakie shuvs. To do a big one I gotta have a tall box or manny pad to land on. Up is easier than flat.

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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1115 on: December 06, 2020, 07:27:21 PM »
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1/2 Cab Noseslide 270 out
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This one and its nollie counterpart elude me too even though I do nollie tails and halfcab noses a lot, to the point where I'd be more comfortable trying to pretzel out the other way, but I know exactly why, it's because I don't want to commit to a 360 trick from that position, a lot of the rotation is blindside and it's pretty scary launching yourself off the obstacle that particular way. But if I really wanted to learn them I think I'd focus on the 360 and not the noseslide/tailslide part to the point where locking in would be an afterthought, so my shoulders would be aligned with what I'm actually trying to do. I kind of see it like when people do, say, halfcab k b/s 180 out and it looks like they really just kind of caballerial'd with some nosepick action in the middle. You gotta trust the trick and momentum and dare to shift your weight, which is exactly what I know at least I don't do. Kind of similar to people first learning bigspins and constantly slipping out because they underestimate how much they need to spin and are (again) scared to commit to so much. For nollie tailslide to fakies I literally imagine I'm doing a frontside 180 nollie on flat with an accessory tailslide in the middle, the flow of the motion is everything so I assume one has to approach the boosted version the same way. Also one thing I'm just now realizing that also resonates with that logic is I used to do switch boardslide 270's a lot and those always felt like flatground switch 360 ollies to me where you'd just delay the rotation a tiny bit.

On occasion I do do this shitty trick where I'll land into manual after a halfcab nose by accident and have too much momentum in my upper body so to stay on the board I'll spontaneously revert back to fakie from there, so it's like a halfcab nose 270 on the wrong truck but that's a mistake and not the real thing. That reflex actually happens a lot to me as a 'save' to roll away from ledge tricks I catch myself accidentally landing on the back truck, even simple front boards.

Finding that speed and just focusing on the rotation out is helpful. I do they really shitty, I'll rotate out to regular and slide the remaining 180 on the ground a 1/2 second after my wheels make contact with the ground. I'm going to try getting my left shoulder (I ride regular) points parallel to the ledge instead of perpendicular, so that will help with exit rotation. I was thinking if it helps to visualize the exit to nose manual and pivot off from there.

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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1116 on: December 07, 2020, 12:27:52 AM »
about those nollie fs 180s: i have no guidelines for this trick other than i basically just try to do a nollie and lead the turn with my shoulders and if i popped the nollie clean at the right time it just stays under me. it's one of those switch/nollie tricks i'm less consistent with than the fakie counterpart but i usually do them better than those or their reg counterpart. like sw fs shoves or sw fs 180s for me personally.

i don't know why, but fakie the same trick works different for me. i scoop those way more and thus tend to overrotate those and not get as much pop at them as the nollie ones.

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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1117 on: December 10, 2020, 10:22:44 AM »
Pop shuvs for sure. Half the time I land primo.

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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1118 on: December 10, 2020, 01:18:35 PM »
Pop shuvs for sure. Half the time I land primo.

Lift your front foot straight up when you pop it.

Ironically I am terrible at doing normal shoves, I have to pop it everytime which is very inconvenient when I just want to switch my board around during a line.

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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1119 on: December 10, 2020, 01:27:53 PM »
Pop shuvs for sure. Half the time I land primo.

Put your back foot in a front shuv or ollie position instead of a scoopy one, no toe hanging off.

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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1120 on: December 11, 2020, 02:57:58 AM »
Whenever I do a front shove it's always about 10 degrees short of coming the whole way round, no matter what I do. Also pop shoves are pretty much the only trick I can get any height on, but frontside ones just drag along the ground even if I pop the shit out of them
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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1121 on: December 11, 2020, 03:35:12 AM »
Half cab manuals. I have no idea why they don't work for me.

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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1122 on: December 11, 2020, 05:20:25 AM »
I want to tail block desperately.

what are you trying it on?

And what’s the problem?

I learned on concrete banks, something that your tail isn’t going to slip out on (like round metal coping)

A lot of people think it’s just clicking the board up to your hand, but that’s not it at all. There is actually a tiny ollie into it, you just hop up into the tail.

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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1123 on: December 11, 2020, 05:44:04 AM »
Half cab manuals. I have no idea why they don't work for me.

This is one of my only manny tricks. You gotta go at a good speed and pop early as you would any fakie trick, but the biggest thing for me is in my shoulders. When I'm getting ready to pop I preemptively start turning my shoulders to the point where they're almost parallel to the pad. That way the half-cab up feels more stable and I just have to worry about the manual, which is a can of worms in itself as any manual trick is for me, haha.

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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1124 on: December 11, 2020, 06:18:32 AM »
I think the key to pretty much all 180 to manual tricks is to turn your shoulders as little as possible in the air. Also landing at 90 and pivoting the last bit helps to stop your momentum so you can hold the manual
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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1125 on: December 11, 2020, 08:16:24 AM »
I think the key to pretty much all 180 to manual tricks is to turn your shoulders as little as possible in the air.

This. Halfcab manny/nosemanny is exactly like a normal ollie into manny/nosemanny but you come from an awkward angle (rolling up to the obstacle fakie and all that) and essentially correct that approach into your usual posture as soon as you pop, with your shoulders leading the way. By the time your tail even hits the ground, you should already have less than 45 degrees left of turning to do with your upper body, be facing the right way and positioned for a normal manny/nosemanny you would have just carved into from fakie. Don't think about the halfcab.

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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1126 on: December 12, 2020, 01:24:04 AM »
fuckin back tails on tranny. tried em for a good 20 minutes the other day and cant force my weight up onto the deck. any tips?

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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1127 on: December 12, 2020, 06:44:33 AM »
Don't try to as much, stay leant way into the ramp, point your front foot a bit and scoop the fuck out of your back foot the way you would to do a revert on the floor. turn your shoulders before you start to turn to the point where you don't even need to turn them any more while doing the trick.

Edit - unless you mean slides, in which case I assume you can already stall them. I'm not the best at them but it's kind of the same technique as a stall but go at more of an angle that feels comfortable and exaggerate the movement in a bit. You need to push your back foot beyond your bodyweight to make it slide
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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1128 on: December 12, 2020, 07:27:12 AM »
fuckin back tails on tranny. tried em for a good 20 minutes the other day and cant force my weight up onto the deck. any tips?

i only did this on small like chest high tranny, but trying to pop into it helped me. with tall transition i only managed to bs tailtap and always do it like a glorified kickturn. i can't even bs tail on street, with tranny i just kind of know how to whip the bs ollie so i can smack my tail, but the shoulders have to be aligned right or it's slip out season.

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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1129 on: December 12, 2020, 02:59:37 PM »
sick,thanks Billy n Frank. ill keep those tips in mind next sesh

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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1130 on: December 25, 2020, 01:18:39 PM »
Varial Heels. I had them on lock before i stoped skating   for a long time. Since i'm back on the board, they come and go. Sometimes session to session. I think i landed some of my best varial heels ever this summer. Just to find myself trying and missing every try for the next 2 weeks.
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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1131 on: December 25, 2020, 02:24:34 PM »
I like to do everything Fakie regs or switch. I'm wasn't really down to improve my nollie flips etc as a kid.

The are always like trying to hit a home run with your eyes closed.

I would like to change that to little light low effort putting green nollie flip or heel.

Casual not CRACK flip POW.
I need command of this trick so badly but it's usually More like a 90į head bang or a slip out palm slap on polished plaza marble or on porous skatepark ground...

It's got to be my shoulders because I have most flip 80s and shuv flips with in a few trys. Nollie tre 1/30?-40 trys in flat maybe. On a really good day.

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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1132 on: December 25, 2020, 09:21:12 PM »
Do ollie blunts and pivot to fakie count as basic tricks?

Both of those I used to have down on anything, but neither want to work for me any more.

They are probably the two most basic of mini ramp tricks that any decent ramp skater should have in their bag, but balance issues and lazy skateboarding means they are often missing in action or very sloppily done.  Pivot to fakie I tend to slide in more than pivot in and blunts usually go sideways if I don't just jump off.

Not a big deal either way as I know things are going downhill but sometimes it is so frustrating that they just don't want to work.
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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1133 on: December 26, 2020, 04:07:50 AM »
Do ollie blunts and pivot to fakie count as basic tricks?

Both of those I used to have down on anything, but neither want to work for me any more.

They are probably the two most basic of mini ramp tricks that any decent ramp skater should have in their bag, but balance issues and lazy skateboarding means they are often missing in action or very sloppily done.  Pivot to fakie I tend to slide in more than pivot in and blunts usually go sideways if I don't just jump off.

Not a big deal either way as I know things are going downhill but sometimes it is so frustrating that they just don't want to work.

dunno about basic but i know what you mean, either eway both of those tricks scare the piss out of me

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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1134 on: January 23, 2021, 11:23:33 AM »
the good and old regular heelflip, weird ass trick, I can do shovit heels, bs heels, ss heel stuff, but regular heel is never consistent and a lot of times go out all fucked up rocket etc

I only do those on game of skates and shit, I quitted trying to be good at it lol

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Re: Basic ass tricks that piss you off
« Reply #1135 on: January 23, 2021, 01:09:10 PM »
the good and old regular heelflip, weird ass trick, I can do shovit heels, bs heels, ss heel stuff, but regular heel is never consistent and a lot of times go out all fucked up rocket etc

I only do those on game of skates and shit, I quitted trying to be good at it lol


I been the same for a good ten years dude!
my buddy who has em dialed gave me a tip last summer that really helps - 'its a side of your foot flip' & the foot set up is way closer to an ollie position than the grom-ass toes off the side shit i was doing

tha being said, i stil suck at them but a little less than i did before haha