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At least when you're a washed-out hipster douchebag in NY, you can milk it at some decent looking, hard to skate spots. In LA you're just a tan-lined faggot in a school yard somewhere.
Whats the logic behind this? How about nada...Clean 2-4 times per year, depending on how much you skate. If they start to get loud or slow, then its already enough grit in them to have done some damage.
Quote from: Vintagebody on July 07, 2020, 06:49:34 AMExpand QuoteWhats the logic behind this? How about nada...Clean 2-4 times per year, depending on how much you skate. If they start to get loud or slow, then its already enough grit in them to have done some damage.[close]That's not really true, as long as it's good steel then "some damage" doesn't mean the bearing is shot. With good bearings the races can take more of a beating than you might think and you might be surprised how much life you can bring back with a proper full breakdown balls-out cleaning. While I don't think Bones Swiss are the absolute godsend most skaters do, the one area they really do excel in is durability. I've taken seriously nasty sets that I picked up in second-hand wheels and brought them back to damn near new performance with a proper cleaning. So the logic behind that is that good bearings can have a much longer effective lifespan with proper cleaning and maintenance, aka the exact thing that every bearing manufacturer tells you to do. Not quite "nada".
Whats the logic behind this? How about nada...Clean 2-4 times per year, depending on how much you skate. If they start to get loud or slow, then its already enough grit in them to have done some damage.[close]
pals with bones swiss, how often do you do clean em? need these to last me a few setups to justify the price
Quote from: iw0 on July 08, 2021, 06:18:36 PMExpand Quoteforgive me if i somehow missed it, but could someone help me with just how flat the flat as fuck decks really are?[close]As Fuck.
forgive me if i somehow missed it, but could someone help me with just how flat the flat as fuck decks really are?[close]
Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on July 07, 2020, 06:12:03 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Vintagebody on July 07, 2020, 06:49:34 AMExpand QuoteWhats the logic behind this? How about nada...Clean 2-4 times per year, depending on how much you skate. If they start to get loud or slow, then its already enough grit in them to have done some damage.[close]That's not really true, as long as it's good steel then "some damage" doesn't mean the bearing is shot. With good bearings the races can take more of a beating than you might think and you might be surprised how much life you can bring back with a proper full breakdown balls-out cleaning. While I don't think Bones Swiss are the absolute godsend most skaters do, the one area they really do excel in is durability. I've taken seriously nasty sets that I picked up in second-hand wheels and brought them back to damn near new performance with a proper cleaning. So the logic behind that is that good bearings can have a much longer effective lifespan with proper cleaning and maintenance, aka the exact thing that every bearing manufacturer tells you to do. Not quite "nada". [close]Some damage here and there will eventually lead to too much play in the bearing tracks/balls. They might feel and even be faster duo to this, but they will fall apart sooner... Just a tiny bit of dirt spinning around in there under load is bad, no matter if you have good steel
Quote from: Vintagebody on July 07, 2020, 06:49:34 AMExpand QuoteWhats the logic behind this? How about nada...Clean 2-4 times per year, depending on how much you skate. If they start to get loud or slow, then its already enough grit in them to have done some damage.[close]That's not really true, as long as it's good steel then "some damage" doesn't mean the bearing is shot. With good bearings the races can take more of a beating than you might think and you might be surprised how much life you can bring back with a proper full breakdown balls-out cleaning. While I don't think Bones Swiss are the absolute godsend most skaters do, the one area they really do excel in is durability. I've taken seriously nasty sets that I picked up in second-hand wheels and brought them back to damn near new performance with a proper cleaning. So the logic behind that is that good bearings can have a much longer effective lifespan with proper cleaning and maintenance, aka the exact thing that every bearing manufacturer tells you to do. Not quite "nada". [close]
Quote from: Vintagebody on July 07, 2020, 10:39:59 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Buttfart Rapedick on July 07, 2020, 06:12:03 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Vintagebody on July 07, 2020, 06:49:34 AMExpand QuoteWhats the logic behind this? How about nada...Clean 2-4 times per year, depending on how much you skate. If they start to get loud or slow, then its already enough grit in them to have done some damage.[close]That's not really true, as long as it's good steel then "some damage" doesn't mean the bearing is shot. With good bearings the races can take more of a beating than you might think and you might be surprised how much life you can bring back with a proper full breakdown balls-out cleaning. While I don't think Bones Swiss are the absolute godsend most skaters do, the one area they really do excel in is durability. I've taken seriously nasty sets that I picked up in second-hand wheels and brought them back to damn near new performance with a proper cleaning. So the logic behind that is that good bearings can have a much longer effective lifespan with proper cleaning and maintenance, aka the exact thing that every bearing manufacturer tells you to do. Not quite "nada". [close]Some damage here and there will eventually lead to too much play in the bearing tracks/balls. They might feel and even be faster duo to this, but they will fall apart sooner... Just a tiny bit of dirt spinning around in there under load is bad, no matter if you have good steel[close]Again, some damage doesn't mean unusable and that's especially true in the case of Bones Swiss. I'm not saying they're going to be as fast as a brand new set with flawless races, I'm saying that keeping them clean and doing maintenance as needed will give your bearings a longer useful lifespan and better performance. A lot of people I've skated with just pop the shields and dunk them in rubbing alcohol then put them back together and think "oh cleaning them doesn't really do much" without realizing that you have to pop the balls to properly clean the retainer and races. Also I've seen soooo many people who crush their shields when they tighten their axle nuts and then complain that shields slow the bearing down. Well no shit, it's rubbing against the balls now. Labyrinth shields work well but I saw a set of bearings that had convex shields one time and thought that was a pretty cool idea.
Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on July 07, 2020, 06:12:03 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Vintagebody on July 07, 2020, 06:49:34 AMExpand QuoteWhats the logic behind this? How about nada...Clean 2-4 times per year, depending on how much you skate. If they start to get loud or slow, then its already enough grit in them to have done some damage.[close]That's not really true, as long as it's good steel then "some damage" doesn't mean the bearing is shot. With good bearings the races can take more of a beating than you might think and you might be surprised how much life you can bring back with a proper full breakdown balls-out cleaning. While I don't think Bones Swiss are the absolute godsend most skaters do, the one area they really do excel in is durability. I've taken seriously nasty sets that I picked up in second-hand wheels and brought them back to damn near new performance with a proper cleaning. So the logic behind that is that good bearings can have a much longer effective lifespan with proper cleaning and maintenance, aka the exact thing that every bearing manufacturer tells you to do. Not quite "nada". [close]Some damage here and there will eventually lead to too much play in the bearing tracks/balls. They might feel and even be faster duo to this, but they will fall apart sooner... Just a tiny bit of dirt spinning around in there under load is bad, no matter if you have good steel[close]
Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on July 08, 2020, 07:03:19 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: Vintagebody on July 07, 2020, 10:39:59 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Buttfart Rapedick on July 07, 2020, 06:12:03 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Vintagebody on July 07, 2020, 06:49:34 AMExpand QuoteWhats the logic behind this? How about nada...Clean 2-4 times per year, depending on how much you skate. If they start to get loud or slow, then its already enough grit in them to have done some damage.[close]That's not really true, as long as it's good steel then "some damage" doesn't mean the bearing is shot. With good bearings the races can take more of a beating than you might think and you might be surprised how much life you can bring back with a proper full breakdown balls-out cleaning. While I don't think Bones Swiss are the absolute godsend most skaters do, the one area they really do excel in is durability. I've taken seriously nasty sets that I picked up in second-hand wheels and brought them back to damn near new performance with a proper cleaning. So the logic behind that is that good bearings can have a much longer effective lifespan with proper cleaning and maintenance, aka the exact thing that every bearing manufacturer tells you to do. Not quite "nada". [close]Some damage here and there will eventually lead to too much play in the bearing tracks/balls. They might feel and even be faster duo to this, but they will fall apart sooner... Just a tiny bit of dirt spinning around in there under load is bad, no matter if you have good steel[close]Again, some damage doesn't mean unusable and that's especially true in the case of Bones Swiss. I'm not saying they're going to be as fast as a brand new set with flawless races, I'm saying that keeping them clean and doing maintenance as needed will give your bearings a longer useful lifespan and better performance. A lot of people I've skated with just pop the shields and dunk them in rubbing alcohol then put them back together and think "oh cleaning them doesn't really do much" without realizing that you have to pop the balls to properly clean the retainer and races. Also I've seen soooo many people who crush their shields when they tighten their axle nuts and then complain that shields slow the bearing down. Well no shit, it's rubbing against the balls now. Labyrinth shields work well but I saw a set of bearings that had convex shields one time and thought that was a pretty cool idea.[close]Yes, and that means cleaning them before they start to make noises or become slow. I dont see why people cant just have a cleaning routine 2-4 times per year.
Quote from: Vintagebody on July 07, 2020, 10:39:59 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Buttfart Rapedick on July 07, 2020, 06:12:03 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Vintagebody on July 07, 2020, 06:49:34 AMExpand QuoteWhats the logic behind this? How about nada...Clean 2-4 times per year, depending on how much you skate. If they start to get loud or slow, then its already enough grit in them to have done some damage.[close]That's not really true, as long as it's good steel then "some damage" doesn't mean the bearing is shot. With good bearings the races can take more of a beating than you might think and you might be surprised how much life you can bring back with a proper full breakdown balls-out cleaning. While I don't think Bones Swiss are the absolute godsend most skaters do, the one area they really do excel in is durability. I've taken seriously nasty sets that I picked up in second-hand wheels and brought them back to damn near new performance with a proper cleaning. So the logic behind that is that good bearings can have a much longer effective lifespan with proper cleaning and maintenance, aka the exact thing that every bearing manufacturer tells you to do. Not quite "nada". [close]Some damage here and there will eventually lead to too much play in the bearing tracks/balls. They might feel and even be faster duo to this, but they will fall apart sooner... Just a tiny bit of dirt spinning around in there under load is bad, no matter if you have good steel[close]Again, some damage doesn't mean unusable and that's especially true in the case of Bones Swiss. I'm not saying they're going to be as fast as a brand new set with flawless races, I'm saying that keeping them clean and doing maintenance as needed will give your bearings a longer useful lifespan and better performance. A lot of people I've skated with just pop the shields and dunk them in rubbing alcohol then put them back together and think "oh cleaning them doesn't really do much" without realizing that you have to pop the balls to properly clean the retainer and races. Also I've seen soooo many people who crush their shields when they tighten their axle nuts and then complain that shields slow the bearing down. Well no shit, it's rubbing against the balls now. Labyrinth shields work well but I saw a set of bearings that had convex shields one time and thought that was a pretty cool idea.[close]
My birthday is soon. Should I ask for a set of swiss ceramics or a few sets of China whites?
Quote from: Banned from the room on July 08, 2020, 06:22:41 AMExpand QuoteMy birthday is soon. Should I ask for a set of swiss ceramics or a few sets of China whites?[close]Swiss 6 is the answer you're looking for.
My birthday is soon. Should I ask for a set of swiss ceramics or a few sets of China whites?[close]
I bought a pair of Swiss from Skatewarehouse and they are not good. Rolled well the first day but got progressively worse. Coming off an injury so it’s been nothing but parking lots for a couple of weeks. Did some deep research on cleaning and even made my own cleaning contraption similar to the one sold by bones. Reached out to customer service and I guess I need to send them in. For the past 10 years, I’ve always bought Shake Junt abec 7s whenever I buy new wheels. It’s worked well for me and I’ll probably just keep doing that like a dummy.
Quote from: Banned from the room on July 08, 2020, 06:22:41 AMExpand QuoteMy birthday is soon. Should I ask for a set of swiss ceramics or a few sets of China whites?[close]If you mean the white bones red ceramics, I had some and they are super fast but mine dried out extremely quickly, within 3 days most of them locked up. They skated fine after I re lubed them but they still dry out kinda fastI emailed bones about it when they locked up and they said I needed to clean and relube them even tho I had been skating them for 3 days on perfect non dusty/dirty skate park ground. Swiss 6 tho, that’s a good one to ask for.
Swiss' are all hype, turns out. Bought a set of SKF explorer 608-2z (SKF being the company that invented ball-bearings) for 20$-ish (Swiss' are like 150$ here), and they roll like nothing else. SKF makes all kinds of bearings for crazy purposes, like aircrafts and boats and shit, so I guess skateboarding is literally childsplay. No marketing budget as well (if the packaging/name didn't reveal that already), but they know their shit.
Quote from: Skibb on July 28, 2020, 07:10:49 AMExpand QuoteSwiss' are all hype, turns out. Bought a set of SKF explorer 608-2z (SKF being the company that invented ball-bearings) for 20$-ish (Swiss' are like 150$ here), and they roll like nothing else. SKF makes all kinds of bearings for crazy purposes, like aircrafts and boats and shit, so I guess skateboarding is literally childsplay. No marketing budget as well (if the packaging/name didn't reveal that already), but they know their shit.[close]I doubt you will find a set SKF bearings in the US for under $40ish. You might get 3 bearings for $20.
Swiss' are all hype, turns out. Bought a set of SKF explorer 608-2z (SKF being the company that invented ball-bearings) for 20$-ish (Swiss' are like 150$ here), and they roll like nothing else. SKF makes all kinds of bearings for crazy purposes, like aircrafts and boats and shit, so I guess skateboarding is literally childsplay. No marketing budget as well (if the packaging/name didn't reveal that already), but they know their shit.[close]
I broke my own rules and landed on a pair of Bones Ceramics (the white ones) when I bought a pair of Indys that came together with a set of Ricta Cloud. They seem to spin less freely than the Swiss I have in my setup but are relatively new. Do they need a cleaning & oiling or do they get better the more you ride them?