I guess I wouldn't even say that they don't slide well. Just relative to those other two wheels, they aren't as smooth. For me, I just have to skate a bit faster for tail slides and shit of that nature. Their "stickiness" is hard to explain. Like, it's not a soft wheel grip or anything, but I feel really confident carving around transition on them. Between that and how fast they are, they're the perfect wheel for me. If I was skating rough shit more exclusively, I'd probably ride f4's or stf.