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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: ibrowning on August 28, 2017, 09:56:02 AM
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I've got a new interview with Bobby Puleo, who doesn't really care for wallies these days, on Village Psychic:
http://www.villagepsychic.net/blog/rules-bobby-puleo (http://www.villagepsychic.net/blog/rules-bobby-puleo)
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Good job Ian, keep up the awesome content! I've always liked Village Psychic.
I love how Puleo brings up Rick Howard's wallride in Goldfish at the end of his part, my VHS copy has warped on that part of the tape because of how many times I've played that section back.
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God damn, I love Bobby Puleo. I love that although I might think he's wrong on certain aspects and have differing opinions on things (ie I'm a big fan of Suciu), he's super passionate about his beliefs and can actually back them up with logic... although sometimes I'm well aware that his logic may be flawed in many people's eyes.
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This is the point of view of someone who is stuck in his point of view from a past era and is completely unwilling to accept the newer shit coming out.
Whats next? doing a set bigger than 18 is bad because it take up too much of the frame?
His static 2 part is sick though
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Wallies are easy and I do too many of them, but they're still fun as you're cruising the city and see that type of spot present it self.
I wish my skating had evolved more over the years but I'm ok with bashing walls and planters multiple times A day.
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I'm just glad I'm allowed to wallie since I'm old enough to have been around for the first 2 times this trick was legal. At least, I think that is what he was saying.
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"Ultimately I don't really care." Proceeds to submit a 1300 word thesis dissecting the birth and death of the wallie chronicles. This is why we love Bobby Puleo. As far as his disdain for the trick goes, all I will say is I'll watch Jake Johnson do 20 wallies in every video part until the end of time.
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tim oconnor's wallie over the barrier in his first line in EEIII will forever be one of my favorite wallies ever.
also, love Puleo's static/traffic skating (i.e. Slap uniform-brown cords white t-shirt)...but didn't really care for him during his Mad Circle fresh dayz. I always thought he retreated from the west coast because he couldn't hack it "technical-skating-speaking", so he went back to the east coast to jump on cellar doors and do more basic stuff at harder spots. so, it does seem weird that he doesn't like taking a basic trick to harder stuff... when his latter career has been taking ollies and nose-grinds to harder/steeper cellar doors.
again, the constant contradictions is the what makes Puleo so endearing to SLAP.
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tim oconnor's wallie over the barrier in his first line in EEIII will forever be one of my favorite wallies ever.
also, love Puleo's static/traffic skating (i.e. Slap uniform-brown cords white t-shirt)...but didn't really care for him during his Mad Circle fresh dayz. I always thought he retreated from the west coast because he couldn't hack it "technical-skating-speaking", so he went back to the east coast to jump on cellar doors and do more basic stuff at harder spots. so, it does seem weird that he doesn't like taking a basic trick to harder stuff... when his latter career has been taking ollies and nose-grinds to harder/steeper cellar doors.
again, the constant contradictions is the what makes Puleo so endearing to SLAP.
Puleo really needs to make a Slap account and become our new resident pro, I bet he could justify each convolution to our liking...
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tim oconnor's wallie over the barrier in his first line in EEIII will forever be one of my favorite wallies ever.
also, love Puleo's static/traffic skating (i.e. Slap uniform-brown cords white t-shirt)...but didn't really care for him during his Mad Circle fresh dayz. I always thought he retreated from the west coast because he couldn't hack it "technical-skating-speaking", so he went back to the east coast to jump on cellar doors and do more basic stuff at harder spots. so, it does seem weird that he doesn't like taking a basic trick to harder stuff... when his latter career has been taking ollies and nose-grinds to harder/steeper cellar doors.
again, the constant contradictions is the what makes Puleo so endearing to SLAP.
Puleo really needs to make a Slap account and become our new resident pro, I bet he could justify each convolution to our liking...
He would probably just post a bunch of links to InfoWars videos, from a public library computer.
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Bobby Puleo is just a purist, and with anyone on the extreme left or right, they may seem a little kooky.
I like what he's saying though, generally.
Skateboarding is divided now between the Art and the Sport.
Anybody can spin on their toes, but we are not all professional ballet dancers. They are not being judged on how many backflips they do.
Skateboarding will always come down to the style and context of the trick. If you did a nollie heel crook on a ledge, don't continue the line with a Ho-Ho plant.
At the end of the day, all the tricks will be done, but the few who did them well will be remembered.
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i'm 40 and wallie be thy name but i get his point. if you remember when a trick went out of style [say varial flips] you have to suspend disbelief to accept it coming 'back in style'.
perhaps most skaters are trendy idiots like matthew james posited in another thread but not the towel. mr p was one man who had had enough of the screw heads, the liars, the skunk pussy. one day a real rain will come and puleo will get wet for insufficient rain gear. but it's ok, the towel is meant to get wet.
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tim oconnor's wallie over the barrier in his first line in EEIII will forever be one of my favorite wallies ever.
also, love Puleo's static/traffic skating (i.e. Slap uniform-brown cords white t-shirt)...but didn't really care for him during his Mad Circle fresh dayz. I always thought he retreated from the west coast because he couldn't hack it "technical-skating-speaking", so he went back to the east coast to jump on cellar doors and do more basic stuff at harder spots. so, it does seem weird that he doesn't like taking a basic trick to harder stuff... when his latter career has been taking ollies and nose-grinds to harder/steeper cellar doors.
again, the constant contradictions is the what makes Puleo so endearing to SLAP.
Puleo really needs to make a Slap account and become our new resident pro, I bet he could justify each convolution to our liking...
imagine if there were a Ask Bobby thread like the Ask Karl one.
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Love his serious views on video parts and curation.
Also:
He does a switch wallie grind up that thick pole barrier thing by the bus stop, and that?s it, you know? Boom, done. It should be in his part. It?s cool, and it?s kind of a nod to a time period. Almost like Gonz would have done this.
This is funny because Gonz did do that same wallie grind.
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Then its all from this retro perspective. If you're even aware that these tricks were being done 30 years ago.
Maybe Bobby already posts here?
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Wallies are fun as fuck, fun never goes outta style. This guy is a kook
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Puleo hating on specific tricks/ aspects of skating?
I for one am absolutely flabbergasted as this seems so out of character for such a positive beacon of light like him.
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That matt reason sequence was the best thing about the whole interview (never seen it before)
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the whole history lesson of the wallie is so fucking stupid. i guarantee no one under 18 gives a shit about anything this guy is talking about. this guy, jeff grosso and whoever the hell else are so fucking annoying. the whole bitterness about how "THATS NOT HOW YOU DO A TRICK! YOURE ARM HAS TO BE AT A 45 DEGREE ANGLE" is such bullshit. at the end of the day, skateboarding is left to the kids to do whatever the fuck they want with it. go find something thats actually worth bitching and moaning about. wallrides will be fucking sick forever
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I thought that was a great read.
I like his sentiment: There's a time and place for everything. Not everyone is good at picking when that is...
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He has a point and I would also add to this that the wallride nollie out a.k.a. wallie nollie needs to please go away.
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He has a point and I would also add to this that the wallride nollie out a.k.a. wallie nollie needs to please go away.
not if people can still do them like matt field used to
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There should only be one wallrider in your crew, if there is more than one your pushing it. However, who ever wants to drop in on walls as opposed to going up them is free to do so.
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He has a point and I would also add to this that the wallride nollie out a.k.a. wallie nollie needs to please go away.
Exactly, but how many people come close?
Even when this trick was getting big lback then I always felt they were lazy and were for people that couldn't do actual wallrides good.
Very very few can make this trick look cool and even then, meh.
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He has a point and I would also add to this that the wallride nollie out a.k.a. wallie nollie needs to please go away.
Even when this trick was getting big lback then I always felt they were lazy and were for people that couldn't do actual wallrides good.
Very very few can make this trick look cool and even then, meh.
Shitbag can't wallride nollie confirmed.
Trick is fun as hell and can be done a lot of different ways. It flows smoother than the average regular wallride and I personally prefer how it looks. It's easier though, I'll give ya that.
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He has a point and I would also add to this that the wallride nollie out a.k.a. wallie nollie needs to please go away.
Even when this trick was getting big lback then I always felt they were lazy and were for people that couldn't do actual wallrides good.
Very very few can make this trick look cool and even then, meh.
Shitbag can't wallride nollie confirmed.
Trick is fun as hell and can be done a lot of different ways. It flows smoother than the average regular wallride and I personally prefer how it looks. It's easier though, I'll give ya that.
Ahahaha you know what, these days you're probably right! Even when this trick was new and just done sparingly by people I only have done a couple and totally fucking off at that. The question is would I even want to do one and the answer is no, I don't like the trick to begin with.
I feel the same way about these as I do about body varials and shit like pressure flips and late flips.
People generally stopped doing them for a reason, reason being mostly they're wack, but I guess the wallride nollie out is the least offensive of these.
They were not rad to me when they first came out and their trendy resurgence puzzles me but to each his own I suppose.
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I like Bobby's skating even though one day my friend pointed out that he looks like a tyrannosaurus rex when he skates cause of his arms.
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He has a point and I would also add to this that the wallride nollie out a.k.a. wallie nollie needs to please go away.
Even when this trick was getting big lback then I always felt they were lazy and were for people that couldn't do actual wallrides good.
Very very few can make this trick look cool and even then, meh.
Shitbag can't wallride nollie confirmed.
Trick is fun as hell and can be done a lot of different ways. It flows smoother than the average regular wallride and I personally prefer how it looks. It's easier though, I'll give ya that.
I feel the same way about these as I do about body varials and shit like pressure flips and late flips.
People generally stopped doing them for a reason, reason being mostly they're wack, but I guess the wallride nollie out is the least offensive of these.
They were not rad to me when they first came out and their trendy resurgence puzzles me but to each his own I suppose.
They're definitely fitting into the trendy trick group, but I'd agree they're the least offensive. Body varial everything is killing me.
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wallride nollie is bad cuz most people do it lazily and dont get their back wheels on
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Gonz said wallies are his all time favorite trick in the Natas on video. Gonz> Bobby.
Wallrides, wallies, wallride nollies are all fun as fuck.
A wall isn't a spot my ass.
edit: oh yeah, and fuck doing or not doing a trick because somebody says so. You want to talk curating? Do your thing, for better or worse. I had a friend who learned impossibles in '91, never stopped doing them, and suddenly like 5 years ago all his impossibles over, into, and down everything suddenly were the coolest shit ever.
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I thought that was a great read.
I like his sentiment: There's a time and place for everything. Not everyone is good at picking when that is...
theres really only now. fucka past and a future
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It really annoys me that I can do regular wallrides but not the nollie out version. I just end up kicking the wall. There must be a knack to 'em but I'll be damned if I know what it is.
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He has a point and I would also add to this that the wallride nollie out a.k.a. wallie nollie needs to please go away.
Even when this trick was getting big lback then I always felt they were lazy and were for people that couldn't do actual wallrides good.
Very very few can make this trick look cool and even then, meh.
Shitbag can't wallride nollie confirmed.
Trick is fun as hell and can be done a lot of different ways. It flows smoother than the average regular wallride and I personally prefer how it looks. It's easier though, I'll give ya that.
Any tips for that? I can wallride 90degree wall with 4wheels on but never understood those wallride nollies....And most people seems to claim that is easier than "proper" wallride. For me to key to regular wallride is to put my feet on kickflip position...
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I like Bobby's skating even though one day my friend pointed out that he looks like a tyrannosaurus rex when he skates cause of his arms.
Puleos t rex arms = Trumps hands.
Watched this dude get made at a spot because someone did a wallie and then a backside nose grind in a line. dude said those tricks shouldn't go together. then proceeded to try switch crooks up the same ledge until reality and anger kicked in to the point of defeat. its over johnny. info wars is hiring.
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i never dug the wallride nollie out because it looks like they just bonk their front wheels off the wall but i did figure how to do em bank to wall style. i got up, all 4 wheels on the mothergrabbin wall! and push my nose into the wall while unweighing my back foot. so i do like a wallride to fakie but i nollie out of it not ride down.
i learned em nollie bs [feels like sw 180] off a wall w/ jim and dan. same concept but you just twist to ride down the bank forwards.
hope that helps, i'm sure the concept is the same bs and fs on flat walls, get 4 wheels on and just do a chinese wheelie like when you stuck your foot under your forks as a little kid and your bike went ass over teakettle.
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Great piece.
Even if I don't necessarily agree with Puleo's opinion, I sure as shit want to hear it. I love listening to this dude talk about skating because he and Grosso and others, as hardheaded as they all may be, are incredibly thoughtful about every little aspect of skating. That shit is important and great to listen to.
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Great piece.
Even if I don't necessarily agree with Puleo's opinion, I sure as shit want to hear it. I love listening to this dude talk about skating because he and Grosso and others, as hardheaded as they all may be, are incredibly thoughtful about every little aspect of skating. That shit is important and great to listen to.
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Sick, I was hoping it'd ruffle some feathers. For the record, I had heard about him saying that he didn't dig the trick to my friend Tyler and gave him a call about it, it's not like he hit me up and asked me to publish his manifesto on why wallies are played out. I really appreciated the depth of context he got into while explaining everything. Dude has done his homework.
Anyway, i'm glad y'all were into it. The plan is to have one of these a month come out and give opinionated personalities in skateboarding some space to speak their minds. Anybody you want to hear from or topics you want to hear about?
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People: Phelps, Grosso, Pontus, Josh Stewart, Oyola, Carroll, Kelch
Topics: switch mongo, body varials, switch, resurgence of curb skating, pressure flips, 90's revival, importance of photography and physical media, full length videos, etc.
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People: Phelps, Grosso, Pontus, Josh Stewart, Oyola, Carroll, Kelch
Topics: switch mongo, body varials, switch, resurgence of curb skating, pressure flips, 90's revival, importance of photography and physical media, full length videos, etc.
Some of those are either done or in the works. Glad all these years of lurking slap are finally paying off.
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Sick, I was hoping it'd ruffle some feathers. For the record, I had heard about him saying that he didn't dig the trick to my friend Tyler and gave him a call about it, it's not like he hit me up and asked me to publish his manifesto on why wallies are played out. I really appreciated the depth of context he got into while explaining everything. Dude has done his homework.
Anyway, i'm glad y'all were into it. The plan is to have one of these a month come out and give opinionated personalities in skateboarding some space to speak their minds. Anybody you want to hear from or topics you want to hear about?
That was rad to read, I like nerd shit. Makes me wanna give that guy some shoes.
I'd be psyched on a history dissertation on the backside 360 ollie by someone.
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Yes! This is a rad concept and as mentioned already I would love to see a 2000 word dissertation on the topic of switch mongo or swongo if you like, even better, Mitch Swongo.
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I've been doing straight jacket bert slides on wedge ramps...can anyone tell me if this is cool right now?
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Sick, I was hoping it'd ruffle some feathers. For the record, I had heard about him saying that he didn't dig the trick to my friend Tyler and gave him a call about it, it's not like he hit me up and asked me to publish his manifesto on why wallies are played out. I really appreciated the depth of context he got into while explaining everything. Dude has done his homework.
Anyway, i'm glad y'all were into it. The plan is to have one of these a month come out and give opinionated personalities in skateboarding some space to speak their minds. Anybody you want to hear from or topics you want to hear about?
That was rad to read, I like nerd shit. Makes me wanna give that guy some shoes.
I'd be psyched on a history dissertation on the backside 360 ollie by someone.
I'm sure rodney claims he invented it
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Sick, I was hoping it'd ruffle some feathers. For the record, I had heard about him saying that he didn't dig the trick to my friend Tyler and gave him a call about it, it's not like he hit me up and asked me to publish his manifesto on why wallies are played out. I really appreciated the depth of context he got into while explaining everything. Dude has done his homework.
Anyway, i'm glad y'all were into it. The plan is to have one of these a month come out and give opinionated personalities in skateboarding some space to speak their minds. Anybody you want to hear from or topics you want to hear about?
That was rad to read, I like nerd shit. Makes me wanna give that guy some shoes.
I'd be psyched on a history dissertation on the backside 360 ollie by someone.
I'm sure rodney claims he invented it
he didn't call it 360, he just considered it a variation of kickflip
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Frontside wallride nollie out though....
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Wallrides just feel bad to me, they bum me out, its a depressing trick.
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Wallrides just feel bad to me, they bum me out, its a depressing trick.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtHC3XhUEAI-HDt.jpg)
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I like Bobby's skating even though one day my friend pointed out that he looks like a tyrannosaurus rex when he skates cause of his arms.
Watched this dude get made at a spot because someone did a wallie and then a backside nose grind in a line. dude said those tricks shouldn't go together. then proceeded to try switch crooks up the same ledge until reality and anger kicked in to the point of defeat. its over johnny. info wars is hiring.
Puleo on Genovese mob fam, confirmed.
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I like Bobby's skating even though one day my friend pointed out that he looks like a tyrannosaurus rex when he skates cause of his arms.
Watched this dude get made at a spot because someone did a wallie and then a backside nose grind in a line. dude said those tricks shouldn't go together. then proceeded to try switch crooks up the same ledge until reality and anger kicked in to the point of defeat. its over johnny. info wars is hiring.
Photoshop time?
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Wallrides just feel bad to me, they bum me out, its a depressing trick.
i have this sticker on my toolbox
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He has a point and I would also add to this that the wallride nollie out a.k.a. wallie nollie needs to please go away.
Even when this trick was getting big lback then I always felt they were lazy and were for people that couldn't do actual wallrides good.
Very very few can make this trick look cool and even then, meh.
Shitbag can't wallride nollie confirmed.
Trick is fun as hell and can be done a lot of different ways. It flows smoother than the average regular wallride and I personally prefer how it looks. It's easier though, I'll give ya that.
You know how to pop out of a crook or a noseslide? Its pretty much the same kinda motion if you are doing the wall ride the right way
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i never dug the wallride nollie out because it looks like they just bonk their front wheels off the wall but i did figure how to do em bank to wall style. i got up, all 4 wheels on the mothergrabbin wall! and push my nose into the wall while unweighing my back foot. so i do like a wallride to fakie but i nollie out of it not ride down.
i learned em nollie bs [feels like sw 180] off a wall w/ jim and dan. same concept but you just twist to ride down the bank forwards.
hope that helps, i'm sure the concept is the same bs and fs on flat walls, get 4 wheels on and just do a chinese wheelie like when you stuck your foot under your forks as a little kid and your bike went ass over teakettle.
Watch out Puleo, my boy has a mean wallride game & can throw a fist is needed...
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He has a point and I would also add to this that the wallride nollie out a.k.a. wallie nollie needs to please go away.
Even when this trick was getting big lback then I always felt they were lazy and were for people that couldn't do actual wallrides good.
Very very few can make this trick look cool and even then, meh.
Shitbag can't wallride nollie confirmed.
Trick is fun as hell and can be done a lot of different ways. It flows smoother than the average regular wallride and I personally prefer how it looks. It's easier though, I'll give ya that.
You know how at the peak of your ollie, your front foot is boned out? And how it makes a similar pose at the peak of your wallride? That front foot bone IS the nollie out. So you're kind of jamming up the wall and nollieing on your way up.
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Also, great concept for a segment. And a great opener, even if Bobby's logic is a bit twisted. I can't pretend mine isn't.
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banksweek lamont 1.dv (http://youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=nj3ChtAyJXA#)
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of course my favorite wallie was a puleo wallie @57s
https://youtu.be/_bIx65dI0Vg?t=57s
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Little off topic, is a frontside half cab wallride an NBD? Have always been curious on how that would look/work.
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Ya know I never really considered those wallies ^ I guess they are though. I always thought of them as just blasting off gall/bam style banks. Those are fine I love steep banks, I just got a problem with flat walls with no angle or ramps up to it, straight wall blasters are the worst.
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Interesting theory regarding Rick Howard initiating Wallrides 2.0 considering the trick pretty much still remained illegal to do for anyone in Southern California during that time period(mid-late 90s).
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I wonder if he has an opinion on these?
(http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u367/truckerfucker/c4b3b0905321fe0e26b0975f2f598ec7--walleye-fishing-fishing-boats_zpsgepw2ge7.jpg) (http://s1064.photobucket.com/user/truckerfucker/media/c4b3b0905321fe0e26b0975f2f598ec7--walleye-fishing-fishing-boats_zpsgepw2ge7.jpg.html)
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of course my favorite wallie was a puleo wallie @57s
https://youtu.be/_bIx65dI0Vg?t=57s
Keep in mind that Bobby Puleo is not subject to his own logic. Please see the great Theories Towelie debate for reference.
Great article. Great demigod of a skateboarder.
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of course my favorite wallie was a puleo wallie @57s
https://youtu.be/_bIx65dI0Vg?t=57s
with a perfect wall ride nollie out by matt field afterwards :D
that's actually my fav part about puleo (him not being consistent with his own logic), I wish people would call him out on it more often, perhaps we'd see some more growling from him!
I had to laugh at the recent 9 club episode where they were saying Puleo is slap's god with his brown cords and white shirt.
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I've been doing straight jacket bert slides on wedge ramps...can anyone tell me if this is cool right now?
Only if you self-congratulate yourself before/after - bonus for gyrating hips.
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of course my favorite wallie was a puleo wallie @57s
https://youtu.be/_bIx65dI0Vg?t=57s
that's actually my fav part about puleo (him not being consistent with his own logic), I wish people would call him out on it more often, perhaps we'd see some more growling from him!
I had to laugh at the recent 9 club episode where they were saying Puleo is slap's god with his brown cords and white shirt.
Ryan Hickey does one of the best wallie-nollies later on in that part as well.
Also, was Puleo the first to do a switch frontside wallride(in FTC Penal Code)?
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Nah, someone had to do one somewhere way before that in the late 80s(tim jackson maybe), back then people did tricks not even knowing it had a name or anything.
I skated with this dude in 1989 and he switch caveman 5050d a hubba and didn't even realize what he did.The hubba was for regular footers only and he wanted to grind it so he jumped on backwards and landed it.
Seems more likely someone did a switch/fakie fs wallride then and it wasn't documented.
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"skate where you're from"
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His condensed history of wallrides is a bit general. Natas had the September 1984 Thrasher cover doing a wall ride of some sort and claims that Dressen learned them, independently, at the same time. Natas also has a few clips in Future Primitive (1985) wallriding from flat and another "cave man" style while Jesse Martinez does some wall walks. So '85 was when it started to trickle down to the general skate community. Natas's '88 Thrasher interview introduced the idea of "wallies" (but did not show a sequence) and the opening scene of Sick Boys is the first video I had seen it in, and remains the ideal example.
Another issue is the generous labeling of "wall ride" in the sequences. The Natas sequence is more of a bank fly out, with the "wall" or "bank" taking the form of a perfect, albeit, tightly transitioned brick quarter pipe. And pole-jams, although similar, are not wallrides and clearly not "wallies", especially if you ride all the way through it. I may even hesitate to call the Mariano sequence a pole-jam as it's more of a roll up 50-50.
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Interesting read, never heard much about wallies before, gustav tonnesen has some of the best wall ride, switch wall ride variations right now.
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Ryan Hickey does one of the best wallie-nollies later on in that part as well.
still one of the best "friends sections" of any video released ever!
His condensed history of wallrides is a bit general. Natas had the September 1984 Thrasher cover doing a wall ride of some sort and claims that Dressen learned them, independently, at the same time. Natas also has a few clips in Future Primitive (1985) wallriding from flat and another "cave man" style while Jesse Martinez does some wall walks. So '85 was when it started to trickle down to the general skate community. Natas's '88 Thrasher interview introduced the idea of "wallies" (but did not show a sequence) and the opening scene of Sick Boys is the first video I had seen it in, and remains the ideal example.
there's also some street contest footage of Hosoi from that era where he does a banging wallie in one of his runs!
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My buddy did a wallride nollie and his front wheels were probably around 5 feet high. Cool as fuck
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wallies, wallride nollie out, polejams etc are some of the most purely fun things you can do on a skateboard. of course the general Slap consensus is to hate on them.
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The gist I got was Bobby was just saying do them but don't film them unless they're in context.
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I've been doing straight jacket bert slides on wedge ramps...can anyone tell me if this is cool right now?
Only if you self-congratulate yourself before/after - bonus for gyrating hips.
I've got the gyrating hips part down, but I'll work on the pre- and post- self-congratulations...should have it all nailed by the end of the weekend.
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Cosme I love the illustration!
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Are they easy though? The times I tried to get the hang of them I've been missing the surface (for wallies on ledges) or just straight slammed into the wall (for wallrides). Both make me feel as insecure and badly observed as a dog taking a shit* but I will try them again sometimes.
They rule and look amazing when I see people doing them.
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Are they easy though? The times I tried to get the hang of them I've been missing the surface (for wallies on ledges) or just straight slammed into the wall (for wallrides). Both make me feel as insecure and badly observed as a dog taking a shit* but I will try them again sometimes.
They rule and look amazing when I see people doing them.
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its literally riding a skateboard
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Are they easy though? The times I tried to get the hang of them I've been missing the surface (for wallies on ledges) or just straight slammed into the wall (for wallrides). Both make me feel as insecure and badly observed as a dog taking a shit* but I will try them again sometimes.
They rule and look amazing when I see people doing them.
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its literally riding a skateboard
Exactly. Its hard as fuck and only a select few even choose to go through the effort of doing it.
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Bear with me; I'm going to keep my vain self promotion to one thread, but I talked to Jake Phelps for this month about whether skate life is getting choked out by skyrocketing SF rent:
http://www.villagepsychic.net/blog/rules-of-skateboarding-2-jake-phelps
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Man, make a new topic
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I know you tried man, but what in the shit was he talking about!? ???
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It really annoys me that I can do regular wallrides but not the nollie out version. I just end up kicking the wall. There must be a knack to 'em but I'll be damned if I know what it is.
disclaimer- I haven't done one in over 10 years but..
Don't even think about the nollie part when approaching, but have your front foot in the front pocket. Get a good wall ride going then try to nose manual upward and if the stars align and the angles are right you will come off cleanly.
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I know you tried man, but what in the shit was he talking about!? ???
Thanks for trying. It's an interesting topic for sure. It doesn't seem possible for a place to be both a skate mecca and have the highest rent in the U.S. (or at least, top three. top two?).
Anyway, San Francisco always seemed like the best skate town to me. I haven't been there since 2009, but I get the impression it's no longer what it was.
Anyway, all you can do is ask interesting questions, I guess.
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This is the key right here. also works for doing wallies off the corner of walls taller than you
have your front foot in the front pocket.
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Wallride nollies are the kooky not quite cousin of the wallride. As bad as step hops for sure.
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Phelps is the biggest try hard in skateboarding.
“Throw money at the Death Star and you always win.”
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Bear with me; I'm going to keep my vain self promotion to one thread, but I talked to Jake Phelps for this month about whether skate life is getting choked out by skyrocketing SF rent:
http://www.villagepsychic.net/blog/rules-of-skateboarding-2-jake-phelps
I see no problem with putting up another thread for a different interview - that way, people don't have to wade through all the Puleo/wallie talk to get the link. Unless your intention is to make it hard to read up on Phelps' thoughts, which I can understand also.
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A few interesting quotes but probably not new topic worthy.
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Gretzky is arguably the greatest athlete of all time. If we're using "best" as the metric, whatever that means, the title of best hockey player probably goes to him.
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I know you tried man, but what in the shit was he talking about!? ???
Thanks for trying. It's an interesting topic for sure. It doesn't seem possible for a place to be both a skate mecca and have the highest rent in the U.S. (or at least, top three. top two?).
Anyway, San Francisco always seemed like the best skate town to me. I haven't been there since 2009, but I get the impression it's no longer what it was.
Anyway, all you can do is ask interesting questions, I guess.
Its no longer what it was, but it will always be what it is. The scene has changed, but the spots and mentality remain. Unlike the music scene, which is essentially dead in SF, there will always be the hills and the spots, regardless of wealth, its not just a great city because of the people it attracts. The only difference now in terms of actually skating the city is I feel far less bad putting a couple of scuff marks on a house/property whose owners either are rich enough to buy SF real estate, or who managed to luck out and have their house value rise into the millions- either way, a little wall ride or grind mark on the pavement in front of their house won't ruin their life or the value of their house.
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^^^^^^That is an odd good point. Houses that look like a piece of shit still sell in SF regardless. It's not like these guys live in mansions all of a sudden cause of the housing boom out here. They still are really old and overrated houses. They are just close to the city which means it's close to a lot of people's jobs.
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I know you tried man, but what in the shit was he talking about!? ???
Thanks for trying. It's an interesting topic for sure. It doesn't seem possible for a place to be both a skate mecca and have the highest rent in the U.S. (or at least, top three. top two?).
Anyway, San Francisco always seemed like the best skate town to me. I haven't been there since 2009, but I get the impression it's no longer what it was.
Anyway, all you can do is ask interesting questions, I guess.
It is currently the most expensive city for a one bedroom in the US. Prices spiked in the first dot com boom, dropped when that fell apart and have been skyrocketing again in the past decade. It seems like it's still unfolding; I can't imagine the scene ever completely drying up because of the sheer appeal of the geography, but it also seems like it's nearly impossible to sign a lease there now unless you've got a lot of cash to drop and possibly a guarantor.
It'll be interesting to see what the future holds. I don't know if people are getting driven out of skate houses so that landlords can rent them to google dweebs, but a shortage of places for skaters to move seems like it would invariably put a dent in the scene eventually. Maybe it'll end up like New York City, where a good chunk of the skaters that know the city and its spots best are from New Jersey and Long Island.
I suppose to that effect, you can't really blame Phelps for not having all the answers. Speaking ill on Gil Perrault on the other hand...
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I know you tried man, but what in the shit was he talking about!? ???
Thanks for trying. It's an interesting topic for sure. It doesn't seem possible for a place to be both a skate mecca and have the highest rent in the U.S. (or at least, top three. top two?).
Anyway, San Francisco always seemed like the best skate town to me. I haven't been there since 2009, but I get the impression it's no longer what it was.
Anyway, all you can do is ask interesting questions, I guess.
It is currently the most expensive city for a one bedroom in the US. Prices spiked in the first dot com boom, dropped when that fell apart and have been skyrocketing again in the past decade. It seems like it's still unfolding; I can't imagine the scene ever completely drying up because of the sheer appeal of the geography, but it also seems like it's nearly impossible to sign a lease there now unless you've got a lot of cash to drop and possibly a guarantor.
It'll be interesting to see what the future holds. I don't know if people are getting driven out of skate houses so that landlords can rent them to google dweebs, but a shortage of places for skaters to move seems like it would invariably put a dent in the scene eventually. Maybe it'll end up like New York City, where a good chunk of the skaters that know the city and its spots best are from New Jersey and Long Island.
I suppose to that effect, you can't really blame Phelps for not having all the answers. Speaking ill on Gil Perrault on the other hand...
A lot of what holds everything together are the legacy skate houses. SF has really strong rent control, so its hard to evict and you can't really raise rent too much. The skate houses that are still around have relatively cheap rent, and just rotate in new skateboarders. The problem is that no new houses are coming, and slowly but surely those houses fall apart, new people come in, and rent skyrockets. A bunch of skateboarders definitely live at the edge of bart service though
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I've wondered this as well. Been in the same spot in the Outer Sunset since 2009. Landlord just put the property up for sale about 9 months ago. There was a lot of interest at first, even had one guy come by and immediately ask the realtor: "So how much can I raise the rent?". Thank goodness for living in a rent-controlled house.
The price of housing has definitely gone up over the years, but there are still exceptions. The city has changed, but I've also gotten older. When the downtown library wasn't skate stopped that was a hub for heated sessions at night. Now that night sesh spot doesn't exist so much. You've got the Island, but it's not the same. Soma park is its own beast, but it's a park.
As previously mentioned in this thread, the geography of the city is what attracts most people and it's damn near impossible to skate stop that.
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If your landlord sells the house, the new owner is allowed to raise rent or evict. Its one of the most well-known loopholes in rent control in the city
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What's up with the spot Frank Gerwer krooked grinded in 411 VM issue 57? It looks sick.
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Also, I'm wondering if Phelps is alright between hitting his head on that hill bomb a while ago and getting decked at GT's wedding. Maybe it was just the booze.
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I'm 38 and just learned wallride nollies and they feel awesome. Puleo needs to focus on something else maybe?
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If your landlord sells the house, the new owner is allowed to raise rent or evict. Its one of the most well-known loopholes in rent control in the city
Not sure where you are getting your sources from, but they can't raise the rent besides the legal % per year if the building is rent controlled.
As for eviction, they then have to offer relocation payments per tenant.
https://www.sftu.org/sale/
Reverting back to SF skating... GX, Brute / Create kids, and many others (SF Skate club crew, FTC, DLX, Mission) keep it going strong in the streets.
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^^^^Yup. You are right. It's called Tenant Relocation Allowance. My friend rented in the Sunset and the home owners sold their house and cut a check for them to move out. They were a family of 5 and got like $10-15K or something like that. That is the one good thing for renters is renter's rights is decently good out here. Building owners that are trying to cash out actually have a hard time doing so.
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If your landlord sells the house, the new owner is allowed to raise rent or evict. Its one of the most well-known loopholes in rent control in the city
Not sure where you are getting your sources from, but they can't raise the rent besides the legal % per year if the building is rent controlled.
As for eviction, they then have to offer relocation payments per tenant.
https://www.sftu.org/sale/
Reverting back to SF skating... GX, Brute / Create kids, and many others (SF Skate club crew, FTC, DLX, Mission) keep it going strong in the streets.
the thing to be careful about, is that single family homes are NOT protected by rent controlled. I live in a house with 4 other people, but it's a single home that is rented to (technically) 1 person (or family). ONLY multiple unit residences are afforded the protection of rent control. My landlord can literally hit us up and say "I'm doubling the rent" just to get us out and we have no legal recourse in the situation.
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If your landlord sells the house, the new owner is allowed to raise rent or evict. Its one of the most well-known loopholes in rent control in the city
Not sure where you are getting your sources from, but they can't raise the rent besides the legal % per year if the building is rent controlled.
As for eviction, they then have to offer relocation payments per tenant.
https://www.sftu.org/sale/
Reverting back to SF skating... GX, Brute / Create kids, and many others (SF Skate club crew, FTC, DLX, Mission) keep it going strong in the streets.
the thing to be careful about, is that single family homes are NOT protected by rent controlled. I live in a house with 4 other people, but it's a single home that is rented to (technically) 1 person (or family). ONLY multiple unit residences are afforded the protection of rent control. My landlord can literally hit us up and say "I'm doubling the rent" just to get us out and we have no legal recourse in the situation.
There are exceptions to that, too. https://www.sftu.org/rentcontrol/
I know they probably aren't that common, but every bit of information helps when dealing with fucked SF landlords. I can't even think of the number of people I know who have lost their apartments, and more than a few had it done to them in a very shady way. Realtors will also help the seller find ways not to pay you or give proper notice.
Every place I've lived in the last 9 years has raised the rent yearly. It just gets more and more expensive, and even though people are saying the bubble is going to burst I don't think it's ever going to get that much cheaper. Facebook just took 50 floors of the Salesforce dick in the sky and AirBNB took the in-law units/spare bedrooms. If you're not making a lot of money, I hate to admit it, but I don't think it'll ever get easier. Maybe all the goons will start renting out all those empty condos built for them that none of us can afford (maybe also the source of the crash?).
A family of 4, making over $100,000 a year qualifies for low income housing. How fucked is that?
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I can't tell if the header that Phelps took on that hill bomb has improved his command of the English language....or.....
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boy am I glad that my house isn't really skateable.
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If your landlord sells the house, the new owner is allowed to raise rent or evict. Its one of the most well-known loopholes in rent control in the city
Not sure where you are getting your sources from, but they can't raise the rent besides the legal % per year if the building is rent controlled.
As for eviction, they then have to offer relocation payments per tenant.
https://www.sftu.org/sale/
Reverting back to SF skating... GX, Brute / Create kids, and many others (SF Skate club crew, FTC, DLX, Mission) keep it going strong in the streets.
the thing to be careful about, is that single family homes are NOT protected by rent controlled. I live in a house with 4 other people, but it's a single home that is rented to (technically) 1 person (or family). ONLY multiple unit residences are afforded the protection of rent control. My landlord can literally hit us up and say "I'm doubling the rent" just to get us out and we have no legal recourse in the situation.
There are exceptions to that, too. https://www.sftu.org/rentcontrol/
I know they probably aren't that common, but every bit of information helps when dealing with fucked SF landlords. I can't even think of the number of people I know who have lost their apartments, and more than a few had it done to them in a very shady way. Realtors will also help the seller find ways not to pay you or give proper notice.
Every place I've lived in the last 9 years has raised the rent yearly. It just gets more and more expensive, and even though people are saying the bubble is going to burst I don't think it's ever going to get that much cheaper. Facebook just took 50 floors of the Salesforce dick in the sky and AirBNB took the in-law units/spare bedrooms. If you're not making a lot of money, I hate to admit it, but I don't think it'll ever get easier. Maybe all the goons will start renting out all those empty condos built for them that none of us can afford (maybe also the source of the crash?).
A family of 4, making over $100,000 a year qualifies for low income housing. How fucked is that?
A week or two ago mayors of SF, SJ, Oakland, and a couple other cities got together to come up with a housing blitz plan. The goal is to reduce barriers to make construction of new homes easier. The goal is to expand housing by 90k units across the entire bay area over the next decade, which is an increase of like 1-2% overall in ten years, across the entire region. That's not going to make a $500/month room in the city come back any time soon. If tech collapses like in '01, things could improve, but the tech sector is building differently this time- companies don't go public as easily, and a contraction of venture capital took place, and the industry managed to absorb companies that couldn't hack it. The bay is transforming, its becoming a new capital for American industry. Until housing and business growth become stable, its going to be a long haul
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Also, I'm wondering if Phelps is alright between hitting his head on that hill bomb a while ago and getting decked at GT's wedding. Maybe it was just the booze.
Go on....
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A week or two ago mayors of SF, SJ, Oakland, and a couple other cities got together to come up with a housing blitz plan. The goal is to reduce barriers to make construction of new homes easier. The goal is to expand housing by 90k units across the entire bay area over the next decade, which is an increase of like 1-2% overall in ten years, across the entire region. That's not going to make a $500/month room in the city come back any time soon. If tech collapses like in '01, things could improve, but the tech sector is building differently this time- companies don't go public as easily, and a contraction of venture capital took place, and the industry managed to absorb companies that couldn't hack it. The bay is transforming, its becoming a new capital for American industry. Until housing and business growth become stable, its going to be a long haul
Another problem is the insane NIMBYism and 'fuck you, I got mine' attitudes many property owners here have. It is extremely difficult to get something built in this city. So, while they can say they are going to expand housing, it's going to be slow as shit.
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Also, I'm wondering if Phelps is alright between hitting his head on that hill bomb a while ago and getting decked at GT's wedding. Maybe it was just the booze.
Go on....
I actually don't know any details. Somebody posted who punched him but I didn't recognise the name. There was a picture of Konston sitting next to a bleeding Phelper posted the other day. Anyone else know more?
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Also, I'm wondering if Phelps is alright between hitting his head on that hill bomb a while ago and getting decked at GT's wedding. Maybe it was just the booze.
Go on....
I actually don't know any details. Somebody posted who punched him but I didn't recognise the name. There was a picture of Konston sitting next to a bleeding Phelper posted the other day. Anyone else know more?
The rumor is Thomas Taylor, Grant's dad, based on a post from Koston on instagram.
Worrying about whether Phelps' brain is ok after getting knocked at this point is like worrying that Marc Johnson's diet might be bad for his hair.
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it was Thomas Taylor.
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A family of 4, making over $100,000 a year qualifies for low income housing. How fucked is that?
Below market rate housing is even hard to get in SF. The hardest part is you need cash in hand to pay for the down payment. My coworker did it 4 years ago and got super lucky. She has 2 kids and never got married to her baby daddy and qualified as 3 family for a 2 bedroom BMR. I think she paid about $400K for it but she got a new job shortly after and got paid more on top of her old salary and her baby daddy helps pay for half for the mortgage. Crazy to think this is what you have to do to own a place in SF even though she'll never make money off of it but she'll probably live their for the rest of her life.
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This month I talked to James Rewolinski from Labor about a topic near and dear to my heart: lurking at the skateshop.
http://www.villagepsychic.net/blog/rules-of-skateboarding-3-james-labor
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That was great.
"I understand when people are like “Oh, back in the day”, but it’s not back in the day. If you can make my rent what it was back in the day, I’ll start doing your trades. Until I can pay my rent to my landlord in bags of crap that no one wants, you can keep the trades."
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haha i'm still dying from the phelper interview. an audio recording would really be the icing on the cake. I was laughing so hard, Phelps is truly on one for life
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Labor is pretty much the best shop
Ripping James clips too.