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Quote from: Mean salto on October 06, 2021, 04:31:09 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: OldieButFrenchie on October 06, 2021, 03:53:07 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: xandeo on October 06, 2021, 02:55:35 AMExpand QuoteI'm a simple man, I see a clip from Leo Valls and I click "skip". The hype of Leo wouldn't be that big if it wouldn't be for the amazing filmers and editors that somehow manage to make powerslides look good. As a comparison: both Leo and Puleo are rather low-impact skateboarders with very little (or none at all) flip tricks in their video parts, but Puleo at least has a very interesting spot eye and manages to do nice two-trick lines/combos with certain variety. If you remove Leo's powerslides from the parts, there is simply not much left. Not considering any of the actions or impacts either gentlemen have or haven't done outside of skateboarding - my opinion above is simply regarding Leo as a skater and the footage that comes out.[close]if you remove the cellar doors....there's simply not much left in Puleo's parts (and I like Puleo's skating! But IMO, Valls is more creative. Puleo lives in the NY area, he has a million more spots to choose from than Valls. Bordeaux is tiny compared to NY)The one thing I do agree on is that it would be nice too see Valls skating spots outside of Bordeaux. For variety. But I think he became a father recently, so a lot of travel is probably not to be expected.I gotta say I'm pretty baffled by the number of guys who would rather watch the same flip in flip out shit being performed ad nauseam. I mean if you don't like Valls, you must hate Gou Miyagi. Actually that could be an interesting conversation: when does the "wacky" stuff become too much? Just a matter of opinion. Miyagi's Heroin part was too much for me, for instance. Even though I liked all his previous stuff.[close]Funny mentioning these three names. years ago me and friends would have conversation about what a perfect video part should be all Leo, go and puleo all have good attributes in theory but fail in practice. All three are good at finding something and figuring out how to skate it in an interesting way. Unfortunately later Leo started going to far down the basics path and skates in a way that might as well be on a green screen. It literally doesn't matter where he is it's just always the exact same stuff. Puleo could drop into a hundred doors and Gou could 5050 a hundred rails but they're all unique but a switch tail on a bench is a switch tail on a bench. It's not fair it's just how it is.[close]Exactly this. Puleo's bag of tricks isn't huge, but he still manages to "surprise" and raise interest whenever he drops something. With Leo, there is just nothing new anymore, at all. And Gou is just a crazy MF, one never really knows what's coming.
Quote from: OldieButFrenchie on October 06, 2021, 03:53:07 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: xandeo on October 06, 2021, 02:55:35 AMExpand QuoteI'm a simple man, I see a clip from Leo Valls and I click "skip". The hype of Leo wouldn't be that big if it wouldn't be for the amazing filmers and editors that somehow manage to make powerslides look good. As a comparison: both Leo and Puleo are rather low-impact skateboarders with very little (or none at all) flip tricks in their video parts, but Puleo at least has a very interesting spot eye and manages to do nice two-trick lines/combos with certain variety. If you remove Leo's powerslides from the parts, there is simply not much left. Not considering any of the actions or impacts either gentlemen have or haven't done outside of skateboarding - my opinion above is simply regarding Leo as a skater and the footage that comes out.[close]if you remove the cellar doors....there's simply not much left in Puleo's parts (and I like Puleo's skating! But IMO, Valls is more creative. Puleo lives in the NY area, he has a million more spots to choose from than Valls. Bordeaux is tiny compared to NY)The one thing I do agree on is that it would be nice too see Valls skating spots outside of Bordeaux. For variety. But I think he became a father recently, so a lot of travel is probably not to be expected.I gotta say I'm pretty baffled by the number of guys who would rather watch the same flip in flip out shit being performed ad nauseam. I mean if you don't like Valls, you must hate Gou Miyagi. Actually that could be an interesting conversation: when does the "wacky" stuff become too much? Just a matter of opinion. Miyagi's Heroin part was too much for me, for instance. Even though I liked all his previous stuff.[close]Funny mentioning these three names. years ago me and friends would have conversation about what a perfect video part should be all Leo, go and puleo all have good attributes in theory but fail in practice. All three are good at finding something and figuring out how to skate it in an interesting way. Unfortunately later Leo started going to far down the basics path and skates in a way that might as well be on a green screen. It literally doesn't matter where he is it's just always the exact same stuff. Puleo could drop into a hundred doors and Gou could 5050 a hundred rails but they're all unique but a switch tail on a bench is a switch tail on a bench. It's not fair it's just how it is.[close]
Quote from: xandeo on October 06, 2021, 02:55:35 AMExpand QuoteI'm a simple man, I see a clip from Leo Valls and I click "skip". The hype of Leo wouldn't be that big if it wouldn't be for the amazing filmers and editors that somehow manage to make powerslides look good. As a comparison: both Leo and Puleo are rather low-impact skateboarders with very little (or none at all) flip tricks in their video parts, but Puleo at least has a very interesting spot eye and manages to do nice two-trick lines/combos with certain variety. If you remove Leo's powerslides from the parts, there is simply not much left. Not considering any of the actions or impacts either gentlemen have or haven't done outside of skateboarding - my opinion above is simply regarding Leo as a skater and the footage that comes out.[close]if you remove the cellar doors....there's simply not much left in Puleo's parts (and I like Puleo's skating! But IMO, Valls is more creative. Puleo lives in the NY area, he has a million more spots to choose from than Valls. Bordeaux is tiny compared to NY)The one thing I do agree on is that it would be nice too see Valls skating spots outside of Bordeaux. For variety. But I think he became a father recently, so a lot of travel is probably not to be expected.I gotta say I'm pretty baffled by the number of guys who would rather watch the same flip in flip out shit being performed ad nauseam. I mean if you don't like Valls, you must hate Gou Miyagi. Actually that could be an interesting conversation: when does the "wacky" stuff become too much? Just a matter of opinion. Miyagi's Heroin part was too much for me, for instance. Even though I liked all his previous stuff.[close]
I'm a simple man, I see a clip from Leo Valls and I click "skip". The hype of Leo wouldn't be that big if it wouldn't be for the amazing filmers and editors that somehow manage to make powerslides look good. As a comparison: both Leo and Puleo are rather low-impact skateboarders with very little (or none at all) flip tricks in their video parts, but Puleo at least has a very interesting spot eye and manages to do nice two-trick lines/combos with certain variety. If you remove Leo's powerslides from the parts, there is simply not much left. Not considering any of the actions or impacts either gentlemen have or haven't done outside of skateboarding - my opinion above is simply regarding Leo as a skater and the footage that comes out.[close]
Plenty of people hate on Gou on here, but like Leo I think they are only looking at them on a superficial level as opposed to contemplating the impact they’ve actually had on the “culture”
Quote from: Kanye Omari West on October 06, 2021, 12:12:29 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: AdditionalSlip on October 05, 2021, 04:52:30 AMExpand Quote Our boy Leo V, he's doing fine.[close]This some Mike V shit right here. [close] you say that like it’s an insult
Quote from: AdditionalSlip on October 05, 2021, 04:52:30 AMExpand Quote Our boy Leo V, he's doing fine.[close]This some Mike V shit right here. [close]
Our boy Leo V, he's doing fine.[close]
Quote from: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on October 06, 2021, 03:59:30 AMExpand QuotePlenty of people hate on Gou on here, but like Leo I think they are only looking at them on a superficial level as opposed to contemplating the impact they’ve actually had on the “culture”[close]actually makes me wonder whether some Americans are reluctant to let people outside the US redefine skating/create their own version of it? I mean for people of my generation, it's just incredible to see skaters from Europe or Asia do their own thing. In the 80s and 90s EVERYTHING came from the US and we were always 2 years behind, as things did not travel that fast pre-internet.
Plenty of people hate on Gou on here, but like Leo I think they are only looking at them on a superficial level as opposed to contemplating the impact they’ve actually had on the “culture”[close]
Impish sausage is definitely gonna blow up as a euphemism this year
By "redefining" and "innovative" do you guys mean the shit Ray Barbee was doing as a teenager?
Quote from: OldieButFrenchie on October 06, 2021, 05:24:25 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on October 06, 2021, 03:59:30 AMExpand QuotePlenty of people hate on Gou on here, but like Leo I think they are only looking at them on a superficial level as opposed to contemplating the impact they’ve actually had on the “culture”[close]actually makes me wonder whether some Americans are reluctant to let people outside the US redefine skating/create their own version of it? I mean for people of my generation, it's just incredible to see skaters from Europe or Asia do their own thing. In the 80s and 90s EVERYTHING came from the US and we were always 2 years behind, as things did not travel that fast pre-internet.[close] yeah, and that’s exactly what Gou has said over the years in his random insta posts: he was so stuck in that margin, that definition of what “skating” should be, but he wasn’t from California and it puzzled him and forced him to reassess what he was doing, and that is what transformed into the modern day Gou. I’m not surprised he ran with his style to the umpteenth degree because Japanese people are generally really good at being obsessed with aspects of culture (like say fashion, chopper culture, noise music, carpentry … actually anything really) and pursuing them beyond the point that any regular person would.I think Leo drew from that too and that’s what inspired him to go so deep down the power slide rabbit hole, but I also think he is taking influence from early street parts where the skating is a lot more spontaneous … remember when people would do like 3 shove its in a single line?
Quote from: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on October 06, 2021, 03:59:30 AMExpand QuotePlenty of people hate on Gou on here, but like Leo I think they are only looking at them on a superficial level as opposed to contemplating the impact they’ve actually had on the “culture”[close]actually makes me wonder whether some Americans are reluctant to let people outside the US redefine skating/create their own version of it? I mean for people of my generation, it's just incredible to see skaters from Europe or Asia do their own thing. In the 80s and 90s EVERYTHING came from the US and we were always 2 years behind, as things did not travel that fast pre-internet.[close]
Quote from: Onare! on October 06, 2021, 05:35:34 AMExpand QuoteBy "redefining" and "innovative" do you guys mean the shit Ray Barbee was doing as a teenager?[close]nice attempt at sarcasm, not bad really. but Ray Barbee was a no comply master, not a powerslide wizard. Try again.or please let me see the video where Ray Barbee does frontside blunt powerslide to backside powerslide to wallie fs rockslide.
By "redefining" and "innovative" do you guys mean the shit Ray Barbee was doing as a teenager?[close]
Quote from: OldieButFrenchie on October 06, 2021, 06:41:11 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: Onare! on October 06, 2021, 05:35:34 AMExpand QuoteBy "redefining" and "innovative" do you guys mean the shit Ray Barbee was doing as a teenager?[close]nice attempt at sarcasm, not bad really. but Ray Barbee was a no comply master, not a powerslide wizard. Try again.or please let me see the video where Ray Barbee does frontside blunt powerslide to backside powerslide to wallie fs rockslide.[close]Rockslide is not a skateboard trick unless you're skating an actual rockand is it really a blunt if youre sliding on flatgound? Since there's no edge to blunt on, I think skateboarders call that "booger"Also idk if u know what sarcasm is boomer https://www.instagram.com/reel/CTwwigFFlZK/?utm_medium=copy_linkThis guy knowsEdit: Valls does not deserve to be in the same conversation as Gou, Gou was 50-50ing monster rails before Leo was even sponsored. Plus Gou never changed when he blew up
Quote from: Onare! on October 06, 2021, 05:35:34 AMExpand QuoteBy "redefining" and "innovative" do you guys mean the shit Ray Barbee was doing as a teenager?[close]nice attempt at sarcasm, not bad really. but Ray Barbee was a no comply master, not a powerslide wizard. Try again.or please let me see the video where Ray Barbee does frontside blunt powerslide to backside powerslide to wallie fs rockslide.[close]
Edit: Valls does not deserve to be in the same conversation as Gou, Gou was 50-50ing monster rails before Leo was even sponsored. Plus Gou never changed when he blew up
Quote from: Onare! on October 06, 2021, 08:33:47 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: OldieButFrenchie on October 06, 2021, 06:41:11 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: Onare! on October 06, 2021, 05:35:34 AMExpand QuoteBy "redefining" and "innovative" do you guys mean the shit Ray Barbee was doing as a teenager?[close]nice attempt at sarcasm, not bad really. but Ray Barbee was a no comply master, not a powerslide wizard. Try again.or please let me see the video where Ray Barbee does frontside blunt powerslide to backside powerslide to wallie fs rockslide.[close]Rockslide is not a skateboard trick unless you're skating an actual rockand is it really a blunt if youre sliding on flatgound? Since there's no edge to blunt on, I think skateboarders call that "booger"Also idk if u know what sarcasm is boomer https://www.instagram.com/reel/CTwwigFFlZK/?utm_medium=copy_linkThis guy knowsEdit: Valls does not deserve to be in the same conversation as Gou, Gou was 50-50ing monster rails before Leo was even sponsored. Plus Gou never changed when he blew up[close]OK let me teach you something: railslides used to be called rock'n roll slides. Because they are a sliding variation of the rock 'n roll. I guess I used outdated terminology here, my bad.Anyways you called me "boomer", so I automatically lose the argument! Any intelligent answer I give is disqualified and you win.(see? THAT was sarcasm. now go do that homework or your parents will get mad)
Quote from: OldieButFrenchie on October 06, 2021, 06:41:11 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: Onare! on October 06, 2021, 05:35:34 AMExpand QuoteBy "redefining" and "innovative" do you guys mean the shit Ray Barbee was doing as a teenager?[close]nice attempt at sarcasm, not bad really. but Ray Barbee was a no comply master, not a powerslide wizard. Try again.or please let me see the video where Ray Barbee does frontside blunt powerslide to backside powerslide to wallie fs rockslide.[close]Rockslide is not a skateboard trick unless you're skating an actual rockand is it really a blunt if youre sliding on flatgound? Since there's no edge to blunt on, I think skateboarders call that "booger"Also idk if u know what sarcasm is boomer https://www.instagram.com/reel/CTwwigFFlZK/?utm_medium=copy_linkThis guy knowsEdit: Valls does not deserve to be in the same conversation as Gou, Gou was 50-50ing monster rails before Leo was even sponsored. Plus Gou never changed when he blew up[close]
Quote from: Onare! on October 06, 2021, 08:33:47 AMExpand QuoteEdit: Valls does not deserve to be in the same conversation as Gou, Gou was 50-50ing monster rails before Leo was even sponsored. Plus Gou never changed when he blew up [close]When they were respectively born is irrelavant to the topic ...
Edit: Valls does not deserve to be in the same conversation as Gou, Gou was 50-50ing monster rails before Leo was even sponsored. Plus Gou never changed when he blew up [close]
Quote from: OldieButFrenchie on October 06, 2021, 08:54:19 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: Onare! on October 06, 2021, 08:33:47 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: OldieButFrenchie on October 06, 2021, 06:41:11 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: Onare! on October 06, 2021, 05:35:34 AMExpand QuoteBy "redefining" and "innovative" do you guys mean the shit Ray Barbee was doing as a teenager?[close]nice attempt at sarcasm, not bad really. but Ray Barbee was a no comply master, not a powerslide wizard. Try again.or please let me see the video where Ray Barbee does frontside blunt powerslide to backside powerslide to wallie fs rockslide.[close]Rockslide is not a skateboard trick unless you're skating an actual rockand is it really a blunt if youre sliding on flatgound? Since there's no edge to blunt on, I think skateboarders call that "booger"Also idk if u know what sarcasm is boomer https://www.instagram.com/reel/CTwwigFFlZK/?utm_medium=copy_linkThis guy knowsEdit: Valls does not deserve to be in the same conversation as Gou, Gou was 50-50ing monster rails before Leo was even sponsored. Plus Gou never changed when he blew up[close]OK let me teach you something: railslides used to be called rock'n roll slides. Because they are a sliding variation of the rock 'n roll. I guess I used outdated terminology here, my bad.Anyways you called me "boomer", so I automatically lose the argument! Any intelligent answer I give is disqualified and you win.(see? THAT was sarcasm. now go do that homework or your parents will get mad)[close]
Quote from: Onare! on October 06, 2021, 08:33:47 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: OldieButFrenchie on October 06, 2021, 06:41:11 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: Onare! on October 06, 2021, 05:35:34 AMExpand QuoteBy "redefining" and "innovative" do you guys mean the shit Ray Barbee was doing as a teenager?[close]nice attempt at sarcasm, not bad really. but Ray Barbee was a no comply master, not a powerslide wizard. Try again.or please let me see the video where Ray Barbee does frontside blunt powerslide to backside powerslide to wallie fs rockslide.[close]Rockslide is not a skateboard trick unless you're skating an actual rockand is it really a blunt if youre sliding on flatgound? Since there's no edge to blunt on, I think skateboarders call that "booger"Also idk if u know what sarcasm is boomer https://www.instagram.com/reel/CTwwigFFlZK/?utm_medium=copy_linkThis guy knowsEdit: Valls does not deserve to be in the same conversation as Gou, Gou was 50-50ing monster rails before Leo was even sponsored. Plus Gou never changed when he blew up[close]OK let me teach you something: railslides used to be called rock'n roll slides. Because they are a sliding variation of the rock 'n roll. I guess I used outdated terminology here, my bad.Anyways you called me "boomer", so I automatically lose the argument! Any intelligent answer I give is disqualified and you win.(see? THAT was sarcasm. now go do that homework or your parents will get mad)[close]
Quote from: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on October 06, 2021, 04:50:19 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Onare! on October 06, 2021, 08:33:47 AMExpand QuoteEdit: Valls does not deserve to be in the same conversation as Gou, Gou was 50-50ing monster rails before Leo was even sponsored. Plus Gou never changed when he blew up [close]When they were respectively born is irrelavant to the topic ...[close]If their age is relevant it's because Gou didn't have access to a lot of western skateboard media growing up so his style is organic whereas Leo's eccentric trick selection is a reaction to what he sees on Thrasher. Gou was always the weird fabric guy, Leo turned it up when he got popular.
Quote from: Onare! on October 06, 2021, 08:33:47 AMExpand QuoteEdit: Valls does not deserve to be in the same conversation as Gou, Gou was 50-50ing monster rails before Leo was even sponsored. Plus Gou never changed when he blew up [close]When they were respectively born is irrelavant to the topic ...[close]
Quote from: Onare! on October 07, 2021, 04:30:29 AMExpand Quote [close]Lol solid meme. But Leo has some serious flatground and ledge game too, and his quick feet are hard to beat.
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Quote from: IpathCats on October 07, 2021, 05:18:11 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: Onare! on October 07, 2021, 04:30:29 AMExpand Quote [close]Lol solid meme. But Leo has some serious flatground and ledge game too, and his quick feet are hard to beat.[close]he does a good job of hiding it
Quote from: Onare! on October 07, 2021, 04:30:29 AMExpand Quote [close]Lol solid meme. But Leo has some serious flatground and ledge game too, and his quick feet are hard to beat.[close]
Who ever was asking about his ledge skills:
I’m all for this kind of stuff; I back him.Can I get @lk130’s take on this dude, though?
Quote from: Lou Strux on October 01, 2021, 10:08:25 AMExpand QuoteI’m all for this kind of stuff; I back him.Can I get @lk130’s take on this dude, though?[close]In French & all I really like it, lol They have that homie filming @ Magenta
I’m all for this kind of stuff; I back him.Can I get @lk130’s take on this dude, though?[close]
I wanna play you in a game of SKATE for the right to continue talking shit on me. You think you got me?
I want to fight you so badly richardPlease give me your address ill make it my life goal to punsh your face in
Might be cool but not tight and original... most of he´s skating is just an adaptation of 2009/10 FESN videos and the osaka daggers... but in europe it was new so...