Wheels Thread

[Barack Hussein]

dyed some 60mm classics. after skating conical fulls the classics just feel right

These look sick! Whats the technique on dyeing wheels like that? I've heard Rit Synthetic is good, but I've always wondered if heating up the wheels messes with the feel at all. I wanna try.

[rocklobster]

@Mbrimson88 angle grinded wheels are the bomb! Closest I could get to Radial Slims since DLX stopped producing them. I'd continue to ride the few sets he passed me but I rode them down to 50mm which is torture for the ride from bus stop to park.

[Vintagebody]

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How? Spit classics are 33.6mm wide in a size 54, however, riding surface is only 16.4.
A spit conical in size 54, is only 32.1mm wide, but has a wider riding surface of 20.1. It will wear a little bit slower, but it wont take long before they are almost equal, and then the classics will actually have a wider surface.

Wheels wear very fast, imo. I've started buying 54mm wheels (which I hate with passion), instead of 52, bcuz they wear so fast. I cant imagine how my wheels would have been if I skated every single day...

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i am very curious the math of the wearing. i wanna know the wearing info of different wheels. i would like to see a poll or discussion topic just for that.

edit: i remember, ben degros said something like "after 6 months, my 52 mm spits wear down to 47 and my trucks dies. i replace them together."

i want to know this type info.

Thats gonne be some tough math! Wheel wear is dependent on things like rider weight, ground, temperature etc.
But yes, I used to skate 52mm classic spits, and they did get to like 50mm within 2 months, so its in route with Ben Degros. I'd imagine im heavier and skate shittier ground then him too...

[frtzgn95]

If you are keen, I can measure a few sets and give you some numbers as to what they actually end up as, from every mm from new down to worn out and done, as I have a whole lot of well used, finished with or otherwise random wheels missing full sets or whatever.

Any which way, it is interesting to see how they shape down, from Classic through Radial shape to fat Tablets and whatever else in between.

goblin in my head whispering me to ask you for more info. it is not madness, right?

Thats gonne be some tough math! Wheel wear is dependent on things like rider weight, ground, temperature etc.
But yes, I used to skate 52mm classic spits, and they did get to like 50mm within 2 months, so its in route with Ben Degros. I'd imagine im heavier and skate shittier ground then him too...

it makes sense that it didn't go down to 46 coz it is getting wider and slower for wearing after 6 months.

[Aquatic Dinosaur]

dyed some 60mm classics. after skating conical fulls the classics just feel right

These looks awesome!  Any updated pics on the board or after skating them?

[Mbrimson88]

@Mbrimson88 angle grinded wheels are the bomb! Closest I could get to Radial Slims since DLX stopped producing them. I'd continue to ride the few sets he passed me but I rode them down to 50mm which is torture for the ride from bus stop to park.

Time for you to get one of those small battery angle grinders???

They really do come in handy for me, out and about to do things, but I am not thinking you would take it everywhere, just out when you want to fix some wheels and don't want the noise around home.

[rawbertson.]

I gotta save my money for this next mechanic bill coming up... I reaaaallllly want to get one... $139 Canadian (i have some dewalt batteries already for my trimmer so can save some money buying tool only) would love to make some Road Bike Tires 

[toe_knee]

HLC just posted a video saying something like after 4 years of R and D that they gonna start pouring wheels, have skated a couple shop HLC decks and they’ve been pretty good, not to mention my homie at the park got one of those skate mafia minis and we’ve been having fun on that as well, wonder if the wheels are gonna be worth a shit 

[AdditionalSlip]

HLC just posted a video saying something like after 4 years of R and D that they gonna start pouring wheels, have skated a couple shop HLC decks and they’ve been pretty good, not to mention my homie at the park got one of those skate mafia minis and we’ve been having fun on that as well, wonder if the wheels are gonna be worth a shit

A local skateshop handed some prototypes out round here, people like them

[Creachteach]

HLC just posted a video saying something like after 4 years of R and D that they gonna start pouring wheels, have skated a couple shop HLC decks and they’ve been pretty good, not to mention my homie at the park got one of those skate mafia minis and we’ve been having fun on that as well, wonder if the wheels are gonna be worth a shit

Wrong thread, sorry.
I can’t look past HLC’s “one wheelbase fits all”-philosophy.
Any info if they will offer multiple sizes?
I wonder if all sizes be same width.

[Richard Skidder]

Here’s a link to HLC’s catalog for those interested:

https://mfg.hlcdist.com/wp-content/uploads/catalogos/hlc-oem-catalogue-skateboard.pdf

[BALARGUE]

i was handed a prototype in march (Butter formula / S.R shape you can find in the catalog given by @Richard Skidder). They said it's supposed to be as good as F4s. I was kinda sceptical at first and asked for a sample to try them. I gotta admit i've been pleased by how they perform. For all these months I didn't feel the need to swap them for my usual F4s (and i wanted to test their durability too).
They feel a bit different from F4 but not in a bad way (hard to describe though), they are great and they will be way less expensive (70€-75€ for F4 is a bit too much).
I'm really considering making a run of these wheels for my shop.

[moonordie]

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HLC just posted a video saying something like after 4 years of R and D that they gonna start pouring wheels, have skated a couple shop HLC decks and they’ve been pretty good, not to mention my homie at the park got one of those skate mafia minis and we’ve been having fun on that as well, wonder if the wheels are gonna be worth a shit

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Wrong thread, sorry.
I can’t look past HLC’s “one wheelbase fits all”-philosophy.
Any info if they will offer multiple sizes?
I wonder if all sizes be same width.

Sure they love that 14.2, crazy.

[Musicaldeath107]

i was handed a prototype in march (Butter formula / S.R shape you can find in the catalog given by @Richard Skidder). They said it's supposed to be as good as F4s. I was kinda sceptical at first and asked for a sample to try them. I gotta admit i've been pleased by how they perform. For all these months I didn't feel the need to swap them for my usual F4s (and i wanted to test their durability too).
They feel a bit different from F4 but not in a bad way (hard to describe though), they are great and they will be way less expensive (70€-75€ for F4 is a bit too much).
I'm really considering making a run of these wheels for my shop.

I'm wondering if maybe these are the new formula that is "more like NFG" someone mentioned for Loophole a little bit ago

[FandomCereal]

anyone ever had any of these? found them on amazon, once the cal7 razortails i'm gonna try making my own board

[dr.prestige]

anyone ever had any of these? found them on amazon, once the cal7 razortails i'm gonna try making my own board

I'm skating the Nano Cubics right now they're pretty good. Haven't skated Super Juices but I know people that have and I've heard good things. Never skated that other one.

I would recommend Nano Cubics if you intend on skating skateparks or street spots. They're good for cruising too but not ideal. I would recommend the Super Juices if you specifically intend on cruising, they'll handle all the rough terrain you can imagine but won't do so well at skateparks.

[frontsideNECKTIE]

I cant explain it and don't have any good reason, but something about the shape of the nano cubics deeply offends me

[bombsaway86]

anyone ever had any of these? found them on amazon, once the cal7 razortails i'm gonna try making my own board

Super Juices rule if you’re just skating hills or using your board as a mode of transportation.

The 95a OJ/Slimeballs are kinda obsolete now that dragons and x97 exist. They’re grippy but feel slow and unresponsive.

I haven’t skated the nano cubics, I’m not into the shape. The urethane is good though.

[toe_knee]

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i was handed a prototype in march (Butter formula / S.R shape you can find in the catalog given by @Richard Skidder). They said it's supposed to be as good as F4s. I was kinda sceptical at first and asked for a sample to try them. I gotta admit i've been pleased by how they perform. For all these months I didn't feel the need to swap them for my usual F4s (and i wanted to test their durability too).
They feel a bit different from F4 but not in a bad way (hard to describe though), they are great and they will be way less expensive (70€-75€ for F4 is a bit too much).
I'm really considering making a run of these wheels for my shop.

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I'm wondering if maybe these are the new formula that is "more like NFG" someone mentioned for Loophole a little bit ago

I thought they were going through acid wheel co or whatever? Wonder if they gonna switch up again

[Maccat]

dyed some 60mm classics. after skating conical fulls the classics just feel right

Can’t do colored wheels, but this combo you did a hell of a job on. Can’t go wrong with red and black.

[Musicaldeath107]

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i was handed a prototype in march (Butter formula / S.R shape you can find in the catalog given by @Richard Skidder). They said it's supposed to be as good as F4s. I was kinda sceptical at first and asked for a sample to try them. I gotta admit i've been pleased by how they perform. For all these months I didn't feel the need to swap them for my usual F4s (and i wanted to test their durability too).
They feel a bit different from F4 but not in a bad way (hard to describe though), they are great and they will be way less expensive (70€-75€ for F4 is a bit too much).
I'm really considering making a run of these wheels for my shop.

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I'm wondering if maybe these are the new formula that is "more like NFG" someone mentioned for Loophole a little bit ago

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I thought they were going through acid wheel co or whatever? Wonder if they gonna switch up again

Definitely through Acid right now but unless Acid has a new formula that is wildly different than what they have currently they are very not NFG like.  Really solid wheel just not like NFG

[iw0]

interesting that they are going 99a and 98a, if anyone has experience and can speak to the difference in the two that'd be cool

[jimgrude]

I cant explain it and don't have any good reason, but something about the shape of the nano cubics deeply offends me

Then you're effectively hating on 40 years of skateboarding history. The cubic shape is classic, and was a really important wheel for the progression of street, slappies, and more technical transition skating.

[BALARGUE]

interesting that they are going 99a and 98a, if anyone has experience and can speak to the difference in the two that'd be cool

The butter formula I’m using is 98a.
It’s not like it feels way different than 99a (F4 being my gotos).
It’s been months soooo I’ll swap them with my F4 99a during the weekend and report back

My engineer opinion is humans aren’t able to feel the difference between a 98a and a 99a like a machine would measure it… especially across brands.
I could even say it’s nothing but a number (and some product segmentation / marketing) and what matters is the material / the formula / the feeling you get.

[Creachteach]

i was handed a prototype in march (Butter formula / S.R shape you can find in the catalog given by @Richard Skidder). They said it's supposed to be as good as F4s. I was kinda sceptical at first and asked for a sample to try them. I gotta admit i've been pleased by how they perform. For all these months I didn't feel the need to swap them for my usual F4s (and i wanted to test their durability too).
They feel a bit different from F4 but not in a bad way (hard to describe though), they are great and they will be way less expensive (70€-75€ for F4 is a bit too much).
I'm really considering making a run of these wheels for my shop.

Hope you do!
Sign me the fuck up for 52mm SR shape butters. They look sick.
You have any gist of what the pricing will be like?
I guess it’ll be somewhat depend on the volume one orders?

Here’s a link to HLC’s catalog for those interested:

https://mfg.hlcdist.com/wp-content/uploads/catalogos/hlc-oem-catalogue-skateboard.pdf

Thanks 🙏
They actually look really promising. Hoping brands available to me chooses to pick up sizes/shapes I’m into.

[bombsaway86]

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interesting that they are going 99a and 98a, if anyone has experience and can speak to the difference in the two that'd be cool

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My engineer opinion is humans aren’t able to feel the difference between a 98a and a 99a like a machine would measure it… especially across brands.
I could even say it’s nothing but a number (and some product segmentation / marketing) and what matters is the material / the formula / the feeling you get.

You are absolutely correct. I’ve seen a few tests where the wheels will be several points off from what they are marketed as. I’ve also seen 4 wheels from the same package measure all different duros

[Dong Hanglo]

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I cant explain it and don't have any good reason, but something about the shape of the nano cubics deeply offends me

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Then you're effectively hating on 40 years of skateboarding history. The cubic shape is classic, and was a really important wheel for the progression of street, slappies, and more technical transition skating.

I also think that cubic wheels look gross. Symmetrical shapes are balanced and timeless. I feel like lock-ins and Nano cubics are gimmicky designs that are lying to children.

[Frank and Fred]

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I cant explain it and don't have any good reason, but something about the shape of the nano cubics deeply offends me

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Then you're effectively hating on 40 years of skateboarding history. The cubic shape is classic, and was a really important wheel for the progression of street, slappies, and more technical transition skating.

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I also think that cubic wheels look gross. Symmetrical shapes are balanced and timeless. I feel like lock-ins and Nano cubics are gimmicky designs that are lying to children.

I read a Natas interview where he said he was really glad to ditch the big bulky powell wheels and get on some santa cruz freestyle wheels... that's where the progress really exploded.

[iw0]

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interesting that they are going 99a and 98a, if anyone has experience and can speak to the difference in the two that'd be cool

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The butter formula I’m using is 98a.
It’s not like it feels way different than 99a (F4 being my gotos).
It’s been months soooo I’ll swap them with my F4 99a during the weekend and report back

My engineer opinion is humans aren’t able to feel the difference between a 98a and a 99a like a machine would measure it… especially across brands.
I could even say it’s nothing but a number (and some product segmentation / marketing) and what matters is the material / the formula / the feeling you get.

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interesting that they are going 99a and 98a, if anyone has experience and can speak to the difference in the two that'd be cool

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My engineer opinion is humans aren’t able to feel the difference between a 98a and a 99a like a machine would measure it… especially across brands.
I could even say it’s nothing but a number (and some product segmentation / marketing) and what matters is the material / the formula / the feeling you get.

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You are absolutely correct. I’ve seen a few tests where the wheels will be several points off from what they are marketed as. I’ve also seen 4 wheels from the same package measure all different duros

thanks you two, that's exactly the info i was after. looking forward to the f4 comparison

[Nymphicus hollandicus]

HLC just posted a video saying something like after 4 years of R and D that they gonna start pouring wheels, have skated a couple shop HLC decks and they’ve been pretty good, not to mention my homie at the park got one of those skate mafia minis and we’ve been having fun on that as well, wonder if the wheels are gonna be worth a shit

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i was handed a prototype in march (Butter formula / S.R shape you can find in the catalog given by @Richard Skidder). They said it's supposed to be as good as F4s. I was kinda sceptical at first and asked for a sample to try them. I gotta admit i've been pleased by how they perform. For all these months I didn't feel the need to swap them for my usual F4s (and i wanted to test their durability too).
They feel a bit different from F4 but not in a bad way (hard to describe though), they are great and they will be way less expensive (70€-75€ for F4 is a bit too much).
I'm really considering making a run of these wheels for my shop.

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Hope you do!
Sign me the fuck up for 52mm SR shape butters. They look sick.
You have any gist of what the pricing will be like?
I guess it’ll be somewhat depend on the volume one orders?

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Here’s a link to HLC’s catalog for those interested:

https://mfg.hlcdist.com/wp-content/uploads/catalogos/hlc-oem-catalogue-skateboard.pdf

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Thanks 🙏
They actually look really promising. Hoping brands available to me chooses to pick up sizes/shapes I’m into.

I'm intrigued by these new HLC wheels for sure (I already like HLC/Jart/Sour deck shapes with their 14.2 wheelbases:) I also think its nice that there will be some made in Europe wheel options too. I certainly don't think it will hurt for Spitfire and Powell/Bones to have some extra competition and agree that their current prices feel somewhat too high (at least here in England where you're talking around £60.00/$73.00 for dragons, F4's etc).