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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: clicketyclack on July 08, 2019, 06:28:13 PM
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What's going on? Too hot????
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Damn I was loving the slap lawyering
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WWJTD?
Get thread deleted.
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Idk if Jamie Thomas had anything to do with the thread being deleted ( I personally think it sounds like something he would do) but I do think Jamie Thomas is a a huge reason it’s hard to support zero and maybe also why they have not evolved with the industry as other company’s have.
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this some lame o shit.
what da fuck happened to the Jamie Thomas thread?
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"I do not work for you"
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it was the owner, not him dorks
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I don’t know if I’d delete a thread for a zero board and some Straye’s.
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Permission to wonder what the fuck is going on, sir?
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Slap message board is the most interesting thing in skateboarding. SHALOM
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Permission to wonder what the fuck is going on, sir?
I would gnar you if I could
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Permission to wonder what the fuck is going on, sir?
he took the 50k for the thrill of it all.
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I don’t know if I’d delete a thread for a zero board and some Straye’s.
def not for the strayes...those are $20 for a reason.
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Yoooo I was halfway through the legal documents of the situation too...shit got messy spicy
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I don’t know if I’d delete a thread for a zero board and some Straye’s.
Would you do it for a mystery board from Australia signed by Chris Cole and some word art?
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this some lame o shit.
what da fuck happened to the Jamie Thomas thread?
Deleted by OP
Ah, the classic 'we didn't remove it, the OP deleted it themselves' move on every deleted Slap thread ever
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this still ain’t it, Chief
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someone got boxes!
#tatergate2019
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The chief hasn't aged as gracefully as the boss
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I deleted it cause the thread had over 7k views in about 2 days. Had no idea it'd blow up like that. Lots of members here I guess. I dont know jack shit about legal stuff and didn't know if it'd harm the guys case. anyway so I took it down. JT SAVAGE AF
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i would love to know what's going on here..
i used to love jamie thomas and everything zero. i still go back and watch all the vids he had a hand in, up until misled youth.
but what the fuck's going on with the guy? selling signed iphone cases? boards that are not rare/special by any means with someone elses poetry written on the grip? you can tell the guy's ego is out of control if you look at any of the garage days items for sale.
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i would love to know what's going on here..
i used to love jamie thomas and everything zero. i still go back and watch all the vids he had a hand in, up until misled youth.
but what the fuck's going on with the guy? selling signed iphone cases? boards that are not rare/special by any means with someone elses poetry written on the grip? you can tell the guy's ego is out of control if you look at any of the garage days items for sale.
I'm not sure its ego as much as desperation. His companies imploded. People in desperate situations can do really shitty things. Like sign teenagers who only eat doritos on tour to binding contracts with 15k buyouts.
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someone got boxes!
#tatergate2019
Ha! NO ONE GETS BOXES
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I deleted it cause the thread had over 7k views in about 2 days. Had no idea it'd blow up like that. Lots of members here I guess. I dont know jack shit about legal stuff and didn't know if it'd harm the guys case. anyway so I took it down. JT SAVAGE AF
Yeah right, how many Australian decks did he give you?
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I deleted it cause the thread had over 7k views in about 2 days. Had no idea it'd blow up like that. Lots of members here I guess. I dont know jack shit about legal stuff and didn't know if it'd harm the guys case. anyway so I took it down. JT SAVAGE AF
Yeah right, how many Australian decks did he give promise you?
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I deleted it cause the thread had over 7k views in about 2 days. Had no idea it'd blow up like that. Lots of members here I guess. I dont know jack shit about legal stuff and didn't know if it'd harm the guys case. anyway so I took it down. JT SAVAGE AF
Yeah right, how many Australian decks did he give you?
honestly the only thing i want out the whole deal is the nude sponsor tape.
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I deleted it cause the thread had over 7k views in about 2 days. Had no idea it'd blow up like that. Lots of members here I guess. I dont know jack shit about legal stuff and didn't know if it'd harm the guys case. anyway so I took it down. JT SAVAGE AF
Yeah right, how many Australian decks did he give you?
honestly the only thing i want out the whole deal is the nude sponsor tape.
I watched it once (the owner of Purple Skunk shop on Geary in SF had a copy) and it's not really that special; the nudity is brief and barely memorable—no dis, Chief ;) . But it's probably super embarrassing for Thomas at this point.
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I deleted it cause the thread had over 7k views in about 2 days. Had no idea it'd blow up like that. Lots of members here I guess. I dont know jack shit about legal stuff and didn't know if it'd harm the guys case. anyway so I took it down. JT SAVAGE AF
Yeah right, how much money did you send and how many Australian decks did he give promise you?
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I deleted it cause the thread had over 7k views in about 2 days. Had no idea it'd blow up like that. Lots of members here I guess. I dont know jack shit about legal stuff and didn't know if it'd harm the guys case. anyway so I took it down. JT SAVAGE AF
Yeah right, how many Australian decks did he give you?
honestly the only thing i want out the whole deal is the nude sponsor tape.
There should be a lot that is super embarrassing to Thomas at this point.
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So is the new way to C1RCA COMBAT spam a thread?
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Permission to wonder what the fuck is going on, sir CHIEF?
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All I really want to know is if there is a 1-800 number for SLAP lawyers.
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imagine going to court over some Adrian Lopez Mystery boards
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imagine going to court over some Adrian Lopez Mystery boards
Good shit as usual. Remember you from the blabs.
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I deleted it cause the thread had over 7k views in about 2 days. Had no idea it'd blow up like that. Lots of members here I guess. I dont know jack shit about legal stuff and didn't know if it'd harm the guys case. anyway so I took it down. JT SAVAGE AF
Yeah right, how many Australian decks did he give promise you?
+1
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All I really want to know is if there is a 1-800 number for SLAP lawyers.
sadly Johnnie Cochran's old practice still owns 1-800-the-firm. and 1800-slap law appears to be owned by phisers ill let you know when they free up.
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All I really want to know is if there is a 1-800 number for SLAP lawyers.
Hit up Twaun’s mouthpiece on insta, she bills herself as the trillest attorney in town.
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Not a huge Jamie Thomas fan but I will say he did a great job with welcome to hell. After that I kinda quit caring he seems a little cheesy.
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All I really want to know is if there is a 1-800 number for SLAP lawyers.
sadly Johnnie Cochran's old practice still owns 1-800-the-firm. and 1800-slap law appears to be owned by phisers ill let you know when they free up.
1-800- pals wal available?
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Apparently Garage Days isn't a legit business...
http://www.instagram.com/p/BztYIVkAzg9/
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Been a good week for deleting threads huh?
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Apparently Garage Days isn't a legit business...
http://www.instagram.com/p/BztYIVkAzg9/
Ernst & Young Southern California Entrepreneur of the Year Jamie Thomas neglected to file a $65 DBA. Oof.
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Been a good week for deleting threads huh?
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WOW. I fucking missed this one. >:(
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Been a good week for deleting threads huh?
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LMAO OPs are probably getting threatening PMs by Isuck.
Derailing the topic a bit, Zero's video deadline was a week or two ago so Damn It All should be coming out soon. I hope Burman's ender is him flying to Oslo for lil bb gurl
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Did the photos from the Burman thread get archived like it was suggested? Shit was creepy it’s also odd that the 2 threads that paint zero in a kooky light get deleted. What is zero gonna do get tk to green light you?
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Jamie was the OP
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Jamie was the OP
Plot twist
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Did the photos from the Burman thread get archived like it was suggested? Shit was creepy it’s also odd that the 2 threads that paint zero in a kooky light get deleted. What is zero gonna do get tk to green light you?
i dont think the dude is a pedo, just a horny and creepy idiot. i dont think he deleted any of those tweets either, but im pretty sure someone did archived them.
figureitout, where you at? dont be a poosey.
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Apparently Garage Days isn't a legit business...
http://www.instagram.com/p/BztYIVkAzg9/
Ernst & Young Southern California Entrepreneur of the Year Jamie Thomas neglected to file a $65 DBA. Oof.
That's not at all what it means. He'd just amend the caption to Isuck, dba... Garage Days, whatever... but it exposes him to personal liability, which could be very bad for him. You can also get in trouble for passing yourself off as an LLC or INC when you're not, but I'm not sure what the penalty is for that. Florida dude should have discovered all this in his due diligence before he started buying a business entity that doesn't exist.
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All you have to do is go to the California Secretary of state website and do an entity search, it takes 2 minutes. I did like 3 yesterday in the Caribbean. Billed a whole 6 minutes.
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Apparently Garage Days isn't a legit business...
http://www.instagram.com/p/BztYIVkAzg9/
Ernst & Young Southern California Entrepreneur of the Year Jamie Thomas neglected to file a $65 DBA. Oof.
That's not at all what it means. He'd just amend the caption to Isuck, dba... Garage Days, whatever... but it exposes him to personal liability, which could be very bad for him. You can also get in trouble for passing yourself off as an LLC or INC when you're not, but I'm not sure what the penalty is for that. Florida dude should have discovered all this in his due diligence before he started buying a business entity that doesn't exist.
This kind of law stuff sounds really interesting. Especially for someone like me who likes to debate and lookup shit to win. Too bad I have the attention span of a piece of toast. Love your posts on these subjects.
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Apparently Garage Days isn't a legit business...
http://www.instagram.com/p/BztYIVkAzg9/
Ernst & Young Southern California Entrepreneur of the Year Jamie Thomas neglected to file a $65 DBA. Oof.
That's not at all what it means. He'd just amend the caption to Isuck, dba... Garage Days, whatever... but it exposes him to personal liability, which could be very bad for him. You can also get in trouble for passing yourself off as an LLC or INC when you're not, but I'm not sure what the penalty is for that. Florida dude should have discovered all this in his due diligence before he started buying a business entity that doesn't exist.
Same. ;D
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All you have to do is go to the California Secretary of state website and do an entity search, it takes 2 minutes. I did like 3 yesterday in the Caribbean. Billed a whole 6 minutes.
Don't lie, you billed an hour
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Jaime Thomas of business?
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Jaime Thomas of business?
thrill of it all?
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Jaime Thomas of business?
thrill of it all?
dying to live?
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All you have to do is go to the California Secretary of state website and do an entity search, it takes 2 minutes. I did like 3 yesterday in the Caribbean. Billed a whole 6 minutes.
Don't lie, you billed an hour
shhhhhh....
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yeah, I just checked....watched the clock it took one minute. Crossroads Movement is suspended / forfeited, so it's not offering protection. Doesn't say since when...but that's not a good thing for Jamie.
200931410118 CROSSROADS MOVEMENT, LLC
Registration Date: 11/10/2009
Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA
Entity Type: DOMESTIC
Status: SOS/FTB SUSPENDED
Agent for Service of Process: JAMES M THOMAS
2777 LOKER AVE W STE A
CARLSBAD CA 92010
Entity Address: 2777 LOKER AVE W STE A
CARLSBAD CA 92010
Entity Mailing Address: *
LLC Management: One Manager
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That's not at all what it means. He'd just amend the caption to Isuck, dba... Garage Days, whatever... but it exposes him to personal liability, which could be very bad for him. You can also get in trouble for passing yourself off as an LLC or INC when you're not, but I'm not sure what the penalty is for that. Florida dude should have discovered all this in his due diligence before he started buying a business entity that doesn't exist.
About that. It's FRCP 17(a)(3): Joinder of the Real Party in Interest. The court may not dismiss an action for failure to prosecute in the name of the real party in interest until, after an objection, a reasonable time has been allowed for the real party in interest to ratify, join, or be substituted into the action. After ratification, joinder, or substitution, the action proceeds as if it had been originally commenced by the real party in interest.
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I don’t know if I’d delete a thread for a zero board and some Straye’s.
Would you do it for a mystery board from Australia signed by Chris Cole and some word art?
http://youtu.be/Q1NO6BLDN_8
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way too much tiny print, what is going on?
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way too much tiny print, what is going on?
yeah was hoping someone (tortfeasor) would summarise proceedings.
My read was Jamie was going to sell his Garage Days vintage decks etc business & a few other things to Florida dude, Florida dude paid up a fair bit ($50K+), then the relationship broke down and Jamie isn't giving the money back, both are now sueing each other.
From what Florida dudes docs claim it isn't looking good for Jamie, didn't spend much time on the counter suit.
Is that about right?
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Have other documents been filed?
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Can someone please go on Instagram and ask JT what's up like a man? He's dealt with a lot of legal shit before. I don't think he's dumb enough to try to scam a lawyer out of 50k and ruin his reputation. We need to hear the whole story from Brink.
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Thanks for the screenshots. This is juicy as fuck. I want more.
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Keep posting the pleadings, but doesn't leaking potentially inadmissible evidence violate attorney ethics?
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You're talking about the Chief here. It's a god damn cold war, ain't no ethics.
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Nobody looks good in this shit.
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Keep posting the pleadings, but doesn't leaking potentially inadmissible evidence violate attorney ethics?
If that's the case Wendler really is the dumbest lawyer i can recall of late. He must be a Cooley alumni.
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Is Wendler actually an attorney, though, as to the California case? The notice says he’s pro se.
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Wait - just realized I've actually argued with that Wendler guy on the Carpet IG before. He sounded very knowledgeable about the legal status of many things Zero, to the point where I couldn't help but feel like he had some kind of personal interest in the company. Weird.
It was in the comments on this post, somewhere:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BrLIGoWHAPo/
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I find it hilarious that he named it "Crossroads" as in the legend of Robert Johnson selling his soul to the devil. Oops.
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what's this dudes slap screenname
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Wait - just realized I've actually argued with that Wendler guy on the Carpet IG before. He sounded very knowledgeable about the legal status of many things Zero, to the point where I couldn't help but feel like he had some kind of personal interest in the company. Weird.
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classic case of Kook vs. Kook
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I find it hilarious that he named it "Crossroads" as in the legend of Robert Johnson selling his soul to the devil. Oops.
Am I giving chief too much credit thinking he was a Bone Thugs fan
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So he defended Jamie and Zero from Carpet's "clowns" and then Jamie and Zero bite him right in the ass later on. That's weak.
Takeaway: Carpet Company is good.
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So he defended Jamie and Zero from Carpet's "clowns" and then Jamie and Zero bite him right in the ass later on. That's weak.
Takeaway: Carpet Company is good.
Carpet munched those comments.
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Keep posting the pleadings, but doesn't leaking potentially inadmissible evidence violate attorney ethics?
No. You can do whatever you want pretty much. You'd have to argue they're trying to taint a potential jury pool or something, which isn't an issue here, on this case, on this scale, it's not even close. That's generally a crim thing anyway, I've never even see that come up in a civil trial. Admissibility doesn't have anything to do with anything until you're trying to testify or publish something to a jury.
He's pro se in California because he's not licensed to practice law in California. Everyone is entitled to represent themselves though. You can only practice in states where you're licensed / have taken the bar exam. Federal Court is easier because it's fairly uniform...exactly the same with respect to civil procedure.
Isucks' dec is weird in that it appears Crossroads is a forfeited entity...so it runs to him....but, it sounds like he wasn't individually served, so Florida dude is still going to have to do that. Still think this winds up in SoCal.
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hahahhaa I made it
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Long time lurker here...
Jesus Christ - what a roller coaster ride of a thread. As a long time fan of JT's work it's pretty shitty to read all of this. Looking forward to updates.
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Keep posting the pleadings, but doesn't leaking potentially inadmissible evidence violate attorney ethics?
Maybe? And that would be pretty stupid of him if that were the case. Although a quick search through his LinkedIn shows that he's passed 5 bar exams so he must not be that dumb?
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As a long time fan of JT's work it's pretty shitty to read all of this.
It's surprising, right? After more than 20 years of professional skateboarding Jamie the Christ Child Thomas has never once triggered controversy.
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As a long time fan of JT's work it's pretty shitty to read all of this.
It's surprising, right? After more than 20 years of professional skateboarding Jamie the Christ Child Thomas has never once triggered controversy.
LOL I hear you. Have there been other lawsuits??
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Keep posting the pleadings, but doesn't leaking potentially inadmissible evidence violate attorney ethics?
No. You can do whatever you want pretty much. You'd have to argue they're trying to taint a potential jury pool or something, which isn't an issue here, on this case, on this scale, it's not even close. That's generally a crim thing anyway, I've never even see that come up in a civil trial. Admissibility doesn't have anything to do with anything until you're trying to testify or publish something to a jury.
He's pro se in California because he's not licensed to practice law in California. Everyone is entitled to represent themselves though. You can only practice in states where you're licensed / have taken the bar exam. Federal Court is easier because it's fairly uniform...exactly the same with respect to civil procedure.
Isucks' dec is weird in that it appears Crossroads is a forfeited entity...so it runs to him....but, it sounds like he wasn't individually served, so Florida dude is still going to have to do that. Still think this winds up in SoCal.
Maybe he can file an application for himself to appear as counsel pro hac vice.
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Maybe he can file an application for himself to appear as counsel pro hac vice.
He doesn't need to. You can represent yourself for nothing...other than the appearance fee. For Pro hoc vice you have to get local counsel to vouch for you and pay a couple hundred bucks...there's no reason to.
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At first I wasn’t on the chiefs side, after further review the other dude somehow is the bigger kook.
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hahahhaa I made it
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JAMIE SUXXX!
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Isuck is a g. Putting out his cold war part with the Impossible grind down clipper at 39 while having a family, running a business and having nothing left to prove is sick. He can rip me off and sue me any time.
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i knew all business was conducted via instagram
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ive given a lot of legal of advice over the years that i think is relevant here-- i have some canned statements that i use often like "make sure the squeeze is worth the juice" and "principle is expensive and you can't eat it" or "less is more," even simple general things like "you cant unring the bell" can apply here ...
but what i really think the best legal advice anyone could give to all parties in this situation is this... "holy shit- what are you doing? just stop fucking talking. just shut up. keep your shit off the internet. keep your shit out of other peoples mouths. instabeef is not a good look for professionals, you are sabotaging yourself, you are gonna blow a lot more than this tiny case, grow up and fix this like adults."
and thats my legal take.
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ive given a lot of legal of advice over the years that i think is relevant here-- i have some canned statements that i use often like "make sure the squeeze is worth the juice" and "principle is expensive and you can't eat it" or "less is more," even simple general things like "you cant unring the bell" can apply here ...
but what i really think the best legal advice anyone could give to all parties in this situation is this... "holy shit- what are you doing? just stop fucking talking. just shut up. keep your shit off the internet. keep your shit out of other peoples mouths. instabeef is not a good look for professionals, you are sabotaging yourself, you are gonna blow a lot more than this tiny case, grow up and fix this like adults."
and thats my legal take.
Does the way this is being handled have an effect on a judge presiding over the case? Or is that more Of a problem where the merit of a case is already kind of on the fringe? I’m sure my terms are not accurate but I mean if a judge see’s someone essentially saying “I’m gonna take you down, you shouldn’t have fucked with me” can that effect the case? Or is that how all lawyers essentially do business and it just comes with the territory?
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It's two kids fighting over toys, and letting the world know how much of a dick the other is.
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It's not a big deal. Everyone engaged in litigation usually doesn't like the other side. And every single document is already available to anyone with a PACER account (me).
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ive given a lot of legal of advice over the years that i think is relevant here-- i have some canned statements that i use often like "make sure the squeeze is worth the juice" and "principle is expensive and you can't eat it" or "less is more," even simple general things like "you cant unring the bell" can apply here ...
but what i really think the best legal advice anyone could give to all parties in this situation is this... "holy shit- what are you doing? just stop fucking talking. just shut up. keep your shit off the internet. keep your shit out of other peoples mouths. instabeef is not a good look for professionals, you are sabotaging yourself, you are gonna blow a lot more than this tiny case, grow up and fix this like adults."
and thats my legal take.
its not so much the impact it will have on the judge (judges generally just decide law), most good judges just roll their eyes and focus on whats actually important. maybe it will sway a jury a few bucks on the outcome- but the general rule is if a case goes to a jury someone (could be a lawyer, could be a client) made a bad call somewhere. its really more about the impact causing mud will have on the other side of the "v".
Cases start off really hot, but 90 percent of the time there is a lull somewhere near the end where people become willing to sit at the table, talk with each other and hash it out. When that opportunity presents itself a lot of really good work can be done that will save everyone time, money, and stress. plus it eliminates risk for everyone. i love jury trials but its a huge risk for the client, and consumes their lives. trial is rarely the best option for clients. picking a fight and taking pot shots really just hinders your chance at easy success and resolving before trial. its self sabotage.
edit: what i am talking about is really more about civil disputes than criminal issues.
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i would love to know what's going on here..
but what the fuck's going on with the guy? selling signed iphone cases? boards that are not rare/special by any means with someone elses poetry written on the grip? you can tell the guy's ego is out of control if you look at any of the garage days items for sale.
He once did something that kind of rubbed me the wrong way. There is a secret halfpipe built in the mountains of Vancouver island on a dank peninsula. Built by the late great Jaime Collins painstakingly over a few years. Anyway, the cheif takes a photo of himself doing a melon to fakie and puts in on a shirt. Woulda' bin cool if he atleast reached out to JC"s island based board company INSTRUMENTAL that was still going on. And done a collab. Maybe i'm being a little salty. Was cool to see some respect on Collins name from and o.g
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i would love to know what's going on here..
but what the fuck's going on with the guy? selling signed iphone cases? boards that are not rare/special by any means with someone elses poetry written on the grip? you can tell the guy's ego is out of control if you look at any of the garage days items for sale.
He once did something that kind of rubbed me the wrong way. There is a secret halfpipe built in the mountains of Vancouver island on a dank peninsula. Built by the late great Jaime Collins painstakingly over a few years. Anyway, the cheif takes a photo of himself doing a melon to fakie and puts in on a shirt. Woulda' bin cool if he atleast reached out to JC"s island based board company INSTRUMENTAL that was still going on. And done a collab. Maybe i'm being a little salty. Was cool to see some respect on Collins name from and o.g
Skated with him quite a bit. Talented and authentic.
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At first I wasn’t on the chiefs side, after further review the other dude somehow is the bigger kook.
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ive given a lot of legal of advice over the years that i think is relevant here-- i have some canned statements that i use often like "make sure the squeeze is worth the juice" and "principle is expensive and you can't eat it" or "less is more," even simple general things like "you cant unring the bell" can apply here ...
but what i really think the best legal advice anyone could give to all parties in this situation is this... "holy shit- what are you doing? just stop fucking talking. just shut up. keep your shit off the internet. keep your shit out of other peoples mouths. instabeef is not a good look for professionals, you are sabotaging yourself, you are gonna blow a lot more than this tiny case, grow up and fix this like adults."
and thats my legal take.
its not so much the impact it will have on the judge (judges generally just decide law), most good judges just roll their eyes and focus on whats actually important. maybe it will sway a jury a few bucks on the outcome- but the general rule is if a case goes to a jury someone (could be a lawyer, could be a client) made a bad call somewhere. its really more about the impact causing mud will have on the other side of the "v".
Cases start off really hot, but 90 percent of the time there is a lull somewhere near the end where people become willing to sit at the table, talk with each other and hash it out. When that opportunity presents itself a lot of really good work can be done that will save everyone time, money, and stress. plus it eliminates risk for everyone. i love jury trials but its a huge risk for the client, and consumes their lives. trial is rarely the best option for clients. picking a fight and taking pot shots really just hinders your chance at easy success and resolving before trial. its self sabotage.
edit: what i am talking about is really more about civil disputes than criminal issues.
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At first I wasn’t on the chiefs side, after further review the other dude somehow is the bigger kook.
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Haha, dude I would have never seen this. That rules
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At first I wasn’t on the chiefs side, after further review the other dude somehow is the bigger kook.
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Haha, dude I would have never seen this. That rules
Mods, please change Esmith5488s name to BIGGERKook immediately, and move all LAWendlers posts into whatever land automatically going forward. Thanks in advance.
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Carpet is the shit.
Why would anyone want to pay 50k for old zero boards and sweaty fallen t-shirts anyway. Both losers.
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At first I wasn’t on the chiefs side, after further review the other dude somehow is the bigger kook.
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Haha, dude I would have never seen this. That rules
Mods, please change Esmith5488s name to BIGGERKook immediately, and move all LAWendlers posts into whatever land automatically going forward. Thanks in advance.
I’m honestly fine with all of the above
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i'm going to be honest, i still don't get what this is about. that said, very glad they took it to instagram like real men.
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i'm going to be honest, i still don't get what this is about. that said, very glad they took it to instagram like real men.
I laughed harder than I expected with that.
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Wow, Jamie Thomas really has zero integrity.
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hhaha the second photo, interesting thread and a bit of a bummer for the chief. Been a long time zero and JT fan and I know he can be a bit cheesy at times but Wendler seems like a straight up tool
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Nothing like a kook fight.
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Sorry to be lazy but I ain't reading 50 pages of court docs. Anyone able to provide an update on how this is progressing?
One bit I did glimpse was prices of signed zero boards for around $400 each and Fallen tshirts for $100. Who would pay this once let alone in multiple mass amounts? Was this guy trying to startup his own black box museum or something?
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I really don’t understand why anyone would want this stuff. I grew up with thrill of it all and zero videos and this still has no appeal to me. It’s kind of bizarre that wendler wants/wanted a collection of dated and almost irrelevant brands. Most people that skate still ,zero is not even on their radar currently until this happened. Let alone mystery and fallen? Gross
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Matt instead of quoting me answer the question you fucking toad.
Why do you want old zero boards and sweaty fallen tshirts, and why are you down to spend 50 large on them? That is way funnier than you suing the Chef.
Free max b
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the chief of Zero/existence ??
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I thought links pics and quotes was Wendell?
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man this guy really took a "leap of faith" buying those boards
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My rough take on the Plaintiff:
Thomas made a deal with Wendler to sell his Garage Day Collection business consisting of Jaime Thomas' skateboard memorabilia collection for $50k. Partial payments were made and a percentage of product was delivered. Wendler wasn't happy with what percentage he got so far and realized Thomas was still selling some of the higher ticket items on eBay which he agreed was part of the GDC he bought...
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Jamie sent this dude a single sheet of griptape, that might be the best thing ive seen in a while.
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I think Mr Wendler lacks a bit of humility and is distateful, but if this is a true quote it shines a light into the manipulative personality of Jamie Thomas. That's some next level empathetic reasoning that he couldve taken in a positive direction, but instead he spent some time empathizing in his mind with wendlers situation, to use these revelations as power over the individual. Exploiting weakness. Very dark stuff.
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I think Mr Wendler lacks a bit of humility and is distateful, but if this is a true quote it shines a light into the manipulative personality of Jamie Thomas. That's some next level empathetic reasoning that he couldve taken in a positive direction, but instead he spent some time empathizing in his mind with wendlers situation, to use these revelations as power over the individual. Exploiting weakness. Very dark stuff.
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jesus christ jamie is a real piece of shit
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jesus christ jamie is a real piece of shit
Shiesty as fuck apparently
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Sorry to be lazy but I ain't reading 50 pages of court docs. Anyone able to provide an update on how this is progressing?
All you need to know is that this has now officially been printed in a legal document:
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When I was like 14 our town was having a fundraiser to build a skatepark. Me and my brother were huge Zero/Thomas fans at the time (peak Zero - just after Misled Youth) so I cold called him for some gear to raffle off. He didn't answer and I left a voicemail. A few days later he calls back and is super cool on the phone saying he's going to send a bunch of stuff direct to my house, and sign it, etc etc. I was totally fanning out on the phone probably sounding like a huge nerd. But it turns out it was just my neighbor - my Dad told him to call and pretend to be Jamie as an April Fools joke. My dad's an asshole.
But Jamie did actually end up sending some stuff. But he never called.
Also - totally agree with the take on the quote above and about that dark use of empathy. Pretty lame to say the least.
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fuck JT. This douche lawyer looks like a clown too but for JT to take his money and then say - fuck you, sue me?
must have blown all his tony cock money on headbands and anti fungal cream.
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That's the code for them killas.
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Sorry to be lazy but I ain't reading 50 pages of court docs. Anyone able to provide an update on how this is progressing?
All you need to know is that this has now officially been printed in a legal document:
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That's the code for them killas.
Wendler said "I want my stuff or I'll sue."
Chief said "Buckle up, knuckle up!"
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I fully understand wanting to collect zero boards and shit but 50k of it??? wtf who dows that
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cant wait for jamie to interview himself about this for his podcast. i think were due for a new episode, its only been a year.
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cant wait for jamie to interview himself about this for his podcast. i think were due for a new episode, its only been a year.
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cant wait for jamie to interview himself about this for his podcast. i think were due for a new episode, its only been a year.
I don’t think he used a mic or a camera in the first place, sounded like it was recorded on a trusty potato
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I fully understand wanting to collect zero boards and shit but 50k of it??? wtf who dows that
Black and white graphics are my passion
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I fully understand wanting to collect zero boards and shit but 50k of it??? wtf who dows that
Apparently, an attorney with deep pockets who can afford to get screwed over more than once and STILL keep coming back to JT for more of the same.
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I feel like Jamie Thomas born into a different area/life would be the type of person to set up sweat shops and authorize animal testing from his cushy chair midway up the ranks of some corporation that was never meant to succeed, created to maximize profit, screw the workers, declare bankruptcy and divvy up all available money in the form of higher up bonuses, rinse, repeat.
JT IS AMERICA! USA! USA!
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50 mil ;D
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When I was like 14 our town was having a fundraiser to build a skatepark. Me and my brother were huge Zero/Thomas fans at the time (peak Zero - just after Misled Youth) so I cold called him for some gear to raffle off. He didn't answer and I left a voicemail. A few days later he calls back and is super cool on the phone saying he's going to send a bunch of stuff direct to my house, and sign it, etc etc. I was totally fanning out on the phone probably sounding like a huge nerd. But it turns out it was just my neighbor - my Dad told him to call and pretend to be Jamie as an April Fools joke. My dad's an asshole.
But Jamie did actually end up sending some stuff. But he never called.
Also - totally agree with the take on the quote above and about that dark use of empathy. Pretty lame to say the least.
Are you Jamie Thomas' estranged son?
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50 mil ;D
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how the hell is JT worth more than Koston and Dyrdek?
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Forrest Edwards was onto something and wasn’t being a dick when he texted the Chief and simply put
“Next time Send More”
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Forrest Edwards was onto something and wasn’t being a dick when he texted the Chief and simply put
“Next time Send More”
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cant wait for jamie to interview himself about this for his podcast. i think were due for a new episode, its only been a year.
This I believe. Spudcast
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Can't wait to sue some of my favorite skaters. Trendwatch 2020
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Can't wait to sue some of my favorite skaters. Trendwatch 2020
you've been subpoenaed, Kien "Donger" Lieu.
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check out 209. LOL
"permission to love the iMessage Sir?"
"permissions granted"
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This is fucking hilarious. Say what you want about the man, dude knows how to fuck.
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I just looked at his garagedays account on eBay for the first time...brutal stuff. He struck paydirt in this idiot buying the whole collection.
Also that manipulative empathetic tactic about tainting the emotional investment was buck.
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cant wait for jamie to interview himself about this for his podcast. i think were due for a new episode, its only been a year.
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Gnarred. That is literally all I needed to know
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I just looked at his garagedays account on eBay for the first time...brutal stuff. He struck paydirt in this idiot buying the whole collection.
Also that manipulative empathetic tactic about tainting the emotional investment was buck.
Someone did buy it now for $1,000 for a zero hoodie he wore in welcome to hell. So stupid someone would spend that. but I get why a reseller would be interested in the stock.
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When you look at the garagedays ebay completed auctions, one could easily assume buying the inventory and business for $50,000 is a decent investment. It seems like everything is selling for mad dollars.
What this Wendler guy doesn't seem to understand is the business is only valuable in that Jamie Thomas himself is selling the goods and has the knowledge of the minutia. If Jamie tells you he wore a nasty t-shirt in Welcome to Hell, that t-shirt is worth $500. If some dude no one knows says the same thing, that t-shirt is worth what a nasty used t-shirt is worth. If Wendler opens up a box from the inventory buyout and there is a Fallen trucker hat in it, he probably wouldn't be able to give it away. Jamie is the one that can weave the tale that it's the first prototype hat worn on the Tour of the Armpit of America Summer 2007 and sell it for $100.
At the end of the day, both guys are acting like major dweebs fighting over children's toys. Jamie needs to return every penny he took from Wendler with interest and wash himself clean of the dude. Wendler needs to drop the idea that he somehow bought a business over text message.
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I think Mr Wendler lacks a bit of humility and is distateful, but if this is a true quote it shines a light into the manipulative personality of Jamie Thomas. That's some next level empathetic reasoning that he couldve taken in a positive direction, but instead he spent some time empathizing in his mind with wendlers situation, to use these revelations as power over the individual. Exploiting weakness. Very dark stuff.
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jesus christ jamie is a real piece of shit
yeah this whole thing seemed like two right handed imbeciles throwing shit at eachother left handed but this really wraps it up for the chief.
knowing nothing about wendler i'd give him permission to be petty once jamie send that. i'd be incensed too. what a garbage person.
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When you look at the garagedays ebay completed auctions, one could easily assume buying the inventory and business for $50,000 is a decent investment. It seems like everything is selling for mad dollars.
What this Wendler guy doesn't seem to understand is the business is only valuable in that Jamie Thomas himself is selling the goods and has the knowledge of the minutia. If Jamie tells you he wore a nasty t-shirt in Welcome to Hell, that t-shirt is worth $500. If some dude no one knows says the same thing, that t-shirt is worth what a nasty used t-shirt is worth. If Wendler opens up a box from the inventory buyout and there is a Fallen trucker hat in it, he probably wouldn't be able to give it away. Jamie is the one that can weave the tale that it's the first prototype hat worn on the Tour of the Armpit of America Summer 2007 and sell it for $100.
At the end of the day, both guys are acting like major dweebs fighting over children's toys. Jamie needs to return every penny he took from Wendler with interest and wash himself clean of the dude. Wendler needs to drop the idea that he somehow bought a business over text message.
Totally, but the purchaser could've also maintained that he had the right to list items with the copy text styled as if Jamie were still writing about these items. Even if Jamie declined that, the purchaser could've easily just written it in third person and not lost much in terms of exposure so long as Jamie didn't make a public statement about selling the business.
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When you look at the garagedays ebay completed auctions, one could easily assume buying the inventory and business for $50,000 is a decent investment. It seems like everything is selling for mad dollars.
What this Wendler guy doesn't seem to understand is the business is only valuable in that Jamie Thomas himself is selling the goods and has the knowledge of the minutia. If Jamie tells you he wore a nasty t-shirt in Welcome to Hell, that t-shirt is worth $500. If some dude no one knows says the same thing, that t-shirt is worth what a nasty used t-shirt is worth. If Wendler opens up a box from the inventory buyout and there is a Fallen trucker hat in it, he probably wouldn't be able to give it away. Jamie is the one that can weave the tale that it's the first prototype hat worn on the Tour of the Armpit of America Summer 2007 and sell it for $100.
At the end of the day, both guys are acting like major dweebs fighting over children's toys. Jamie needs to return every penny he took from Wendler with interest and wash himself clean of the dude. Wendler needs to drop the idea that he somehow bought a business over text message.
Totally, but the purchaser could've also maintained that he had the right to list items with the copy text styled as if Jamie were still writing about these items. Even if Jamie declined that, the purchaser could've easily just written it in third person and not lost much in terms of exposure so long as Jamie didn't make a public statement about selling the business.
That becomes transparent really quickly. Once all the obvious stuff is sold, who is going to be around in a few years to tell the story of every little item? It also appears Jamie is offering to sign and post date a lot of the merch, something Wendler couldn't do in good conscience.
I can't help but think something is missing. Jamie comes off like a total asshole here, but he's not dumb and he's a hard-nosed businessman. There's no way he just took $50,000 of someone's money and decided not to deliver. That's hard to believe. Based on this Jenkem article about the Jamie vs. Colden situation, Jamie comes away looking like he thinks through his business decisions (however unpopular) pretty well:
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Yeaaasssssds
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When you look at the garagedays ebay completed auctions, one could easily assume buying the inventory and business for $50,000 is a decent investment. It seems like everything is selling for mad dollars.
What this Wendler guy doesn't seem to understand is the business is only valuable in that Jamie Thomas himself is selling the goods and has the knowledge of the minutia. If Jamie tells you he wore a nasty t-shirt in Welcome to Hell, that t-shirt is worth $500. If some dude no one knows says the same thing, that t-shirt is worth what a nasty used t-shirt is worth. If Wendler opens up a box from the inventory buyout and there is a Fallen trucker hat in it, he probably wouldn't be able to give it away. Jamie is the one that can weave the tale that it's the first prototype hat worn on the Tour of the Armpit of America Summer 2007 and sell it for $100.
At the end of the day, both guys are acting like major dweebs fighting over children's toys. Jamie needs to return every penny he took from Wendler with interest and wash himself clean of the dude. Wendler needs to drop the idea that he somehow bought a business over text message.
Totally, but the purchaser could've also maintained that he had the right to list items with the copy text styled as if Jamie were still writing about these items. Even if Jamie declined that, the purchaser could've easily just written it in third person and not lost much in terms of exposure so long as Jamie didn't make a public statement about selling the business.
That becomes transparent really quickly. Once all the obvious stuff is sold, who is going to be around in a few years to tell the story of every little item? It also appears Jamie is offering to sign and post date a lot of the merch, something Wendler couldn't do in good conscience.
I can't help but think something is missing. Jamie comes off like a total asshole here, but he's not dumb and he's a hard-nosed businessman. There's no way he just took $50,000 of someone's money and decided not to deliver. That's hard to believe. Based on this Jenkem article about the Jamie vs. Colden situation, Jamie comes away looking like he thinks through his business decisions (however unpopular) pretty well:
In that interview he admits to accepting 50% of the contract's worth. Doesn't sound very hard-nosed to me. Wendler accused Jamie of taking the 50K and using it as a bridge loan for other debts. Whether that's true or not, who knows. Jamie might've had some business successes, but he also attempted to scale Blackbox in a way that wasn't sustainable and tanked it, along with a bunch of the brands.
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When you look at the garagedays ebay completed auctions, one could easily assume buying the inventory and business for $50,000 is a decent investment. It seems like everything is selling for mad dollars.
What this Wendler guy doesn't seem to understand is the business is only valuable in that Jamie Thomas himself is selling the goods and has the knowledge of the minutia. If Jamie tells you he wore a nasty t-shirt in Welcome to Hell, that t-shirt is worth $500. If some dude no one knows says the same thing, that t-shirt is worth what a nasty used t-shirt is worth. If Wendler opens up a box from the inventory buyout and there is a Fallen trucker hat in it, he probably wouldn't be able to give it away. Jamie is the one that can weave the tale that it's the first prototype hat worn on the Tour of the Armpit of America Summer 2007 and sell it for $100.
At the end of the day, both guys are acting like major dweebs fighting over children's toys. Jamie needs to return every penny he took from Wendler with interest and wash himself clean of the dude. Wendler needs to drop the idea that he somehow bought a business over text message.
Totally, but the purchaser could've also maintained that he had the right to list items with the copy text styled as if Jamie were still writing about these items. Even if Jamie declined that, the purchaser could've easily just written it in third person and not lost much in terms of exposure so long as Jamie didn't make a public statement about selling the business.
That becomes transparent really quickly. Once all the obvious stuff is sold, who is going to be around in a few years to tell the story of every little item? It also appears Jamie is offering to sign and post date a lot of the merch, something Wendler couldn't do in good conscience.
I can't help but think something is missing. Jamie comes off like a total asshole here, but he's not dumb and he's a hard-nosed businessman. There's no way he just took $50,000 of someone's money and decided not to deliver. That's hard to believe. Based on this Jenkem article about the Jamie vs. Colden situation, Jamie comes away looking like he thinks through his business decisions (however unpopular) pretty well:
In that interview he admits to accepting 50% of the contract's worth. Doesn't sound very hard-nosed to me. Wendler accused Jamie of taking the 50K and using it as a bridge loan for other debts. Whether that's true or not, who knows. Jamie might've had some business successes, but he also attempted to scale Blackbox in a way that wasn't sustainable and tanked it, along with a bunch of the brands.
50% of the contract's worth according to his opinion and fuzzy math. He said that it was worth $30,000 to make himself look good offering a buyout at half to be charitable. To foresee a rider being disloyal, making him sign a contract, and forcing him to buyout his contract for any amount of money all show some amount of business acumen.
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When you look at the garagedays ebay completed auctions, one could easily assume buying the inventory and business for $50,000 is a decent investment. It seems like everything is selling for mad dollars.
What this Wendler guy doesn't seem to understand is the business is only valuable in that Jamie Thomas himself is selling the goods and has the knowledge of the minutia. If Jamie tells you he wore a nasty t-shirt in Welcome to Hell, that t-shirt is worth $500. If some dude no one knows says the same thing, that t-shirt is worth what a nasty used t-shirt is worth. If Wendler opens up a box from the inventory buyout and there is a Fallen trucker hat in it, he probably wouldn't be able to give it away. Jamie is the one that can weave the tale that it's the first prototype hat worn on the Tour of the Armpit of America Summer 2007 and sell it for $100.
At the end of the day, both guys are acting like major dweebs fighting over children's toys. Jamie needs to return every penny he took from Wendler with interest and wash himself clean of the dude. Wendler needs to drop the idea that he somehow bought a business over text message.
Totally, but the purchaser could've also maintained that he had the right to list items with the copy text styled as if Jamie were still writing about these items. Even if Jamie declined that, the purchaser could've easily just written it in third person and not lost much in terms of exposure so long as Jamie didn't make a public statement about selling the business.
That becomes transparent really quickly. Once all the obvious stuff is sold, who is going to be around in a few years to tell the story of every little item? It also appears Jamie is offering to sign and post date a lot of the merch, something Wendler couldn't do in good conscience.
I can't help but think something is missing. Jamie comes off like a total asshole here, but he's not dumb and he's a hard-nosed businessman. There's no way he just took $50,000 of someone's money and decided not to deliver. That's hard to believe. Based on this Jenkem article about the Jamie vs. Colden situation, Jamie comes away looking like he thinks through his business decisions (however unpopular) pretty well:
In that interview he admits to accepting 50% of the contract's worth. Doesn't sound very hard-nosed to me. Wendler accused Jamie of taking the 50K and using it as a bridge loan for other debts. Whether that's true or not, who knows. Jamie might've had some business successes, but he also attempted to scale Blackbox in a way that wasn't sustainable and tanked it, along with a bunch of the brands.
50% of the contract's worth according to his opinion and fuzzy math. He said that it was worth $30,000 to make himself look good offering a buyout at half to be charitable. To foresee a rider not being disloyal, making him sign a contract, and forcing him to buyout his contract for any amount of money all show some amount of business acumen.
He could have just not turned him pro.
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50 mil ;D
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how the hell is JT worth more than Koston and Dyrdek?
It's HIGHLY unlikely those are accurate numbers.
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50 mil ;D
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how the hell is JT worth more than Koston and Dyrdek?
It's HIGHLY unlikely those are accurate numbers.
They are all wrong TK is #1 and worth BILLIONS.
Isuck is a broke ass
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When you look at the garagedays ebay completed auctions, one could easily assume buying the inventory and business for $50,000 is a decent investment. It seems like everything is selling for mad dollars.
What this Wendler guy doesn't seem to understand is the business is only valuable in that Jamie Thomas himself is selling the goods and has the knowledge of the minutia. If Jamie tells you he wore a nasty t-shirt in Welcome to Hell, that t-shirt is worth $500. If some dude no one knows says the same thing, that t-shirt is worth what a nasty used t-shirt is worth. If Wendler opens up a box from the inventory buyout and there is a Fallen trucker hat in it, he probably wouldn't be able to give it away. Jamie is the one that can weave the tale that it's the first prototype hat worn on the Tour of the Armpit of America Summer 2007 and sell it for $100.
At the end of the day, both guys are acting like major dweebs fighting over children's toys. Jamie needs to return every penny he took from Wendler with interest and wash himself clean of the dude. Wendler needs to drop the idea that he somehow bought a business over text message.
Totally, but the purchaser could've also maintained that he had the right to list items with the copy text styled as if Jamie were still writing about these items. Even if Jamie declined that, the purchaser could've easily just written it in third person and not lost much in terms of exposure so long as Jamie didn't make a public statement about selling the business.
That becomes transparent really quickly. Once all the obvious stuff is sold, who is going to be around in a few years to tell the story of every little item? It also appears Jamie is offering to sign and post date a lot of the merch, something Wendler couldn't do in good conscience.
I can't help but think something is missing. Jamie comes off like a total asshole here, but he's not dumb and he's a hard-nosed businessman. There's no way he just took $50,000 of someone's money and decided not to deliver. That's hard to believe. Based on this Jenkem article about the Jamie vs. Colden situation, Jamie comes away looking like he thinks through his business decisions (however unpopular) pretty well:
In that interview he admits to accepting 50% of the contract's worth. Doesn't sound very hard-nosed to me. Wendler accused Jamie of taking the 50K and using it as a bridge loan for other debts. Whether that's true or not, who knows. Jamie might've had some business successes, but he also attempted to scale Blackbox in a way that wasn't sustainable and tanked it, along with a bunch of the brands.
50% of the contract's worth according to his opinion and fuzzy math. He said that it was worth $30,000 to make himself look good offering a buyout at half to be charitable. To foresee a rider being disloyal, making him sign a contract, and forcing him to buyout his contract for any amount of money all show some amount of business acumen.
Why in the fuck would he turn him pro if he foresaw him being disloyal? That makes absolutely no sense. Doesn't exactly sound like a hard-nosed businessman. You don't need to make excuses for Chief. I'm sure he'll come on here and make his own like he usually does.
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Sorry to be lazy but I ain't reading 50 pages of court docs. Anyone able to provide an update on how this is progressing?
All you need to know is that this has now officially been printed in a legal document:
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Gnarred. That is literally all I needed to know
Part of me would love that image to become SLAP's new C1rca Combat as soon as right now.
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how are you getting these? i love this shit
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how are you getting these? i love this shit
LPQ disturbs and astounds me with this shit. Keep up the good work, but do you just constantly hunt all day for this stuff?
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hahah hitting JT hard but yeah how do you get these?
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All this is just filed online. Anyone with a PACER account can see everything filed. That's what the blue words up top mean. electronic filing system
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LMFAO. It's reminds me of an episode of Intervention when they say "Are you prepared to receive the help being offered to you today?" I wonder if he took the suggestion to heart?
In other news, it looks like Thomas is giving the farm away on the GarageDays eBay store. I guess legal fees get expensive? Damn shame really.
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Yo Fuck JT, egomaniac fuck
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Yo Fuck JT, egomaniac fuck
ISUCK living up to his username.
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https://www.ebay.com/sch/garagedayscollection/m.html?item=123863544923&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
Yet he has 76 items up on the bay. Zero None of which I am interested in.
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https://www.ebay.com/sch/garagedayscollection/m.html?item=123863544923&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
Yet he has 76 items up on the bay. Zero None of which I am interested in.
Man those shipping charges are wild. $20 for a single deck, really?
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Not in defense of jamie but when is the last time you tried shipping anything?
Prices have gone way up, amazon and every other online retailer giving free shipping have skewed peoples views of how much it should cost.
Shipping a deck on the west coast to the same zone is around $11-13 if you have the smallest box possible.
I live in washington state and shipping a deck to Texas cost around $27 USPS AND $22 UPS.
I deal wish shipping sticker shock a lot, people trip out thinking I am over charging but for a larger item
33x10x4 4/5lbs it can get kind of expensive.
That being said, Jamie needs his head checked.
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Not in defense of jamie but when is the last time you tried shipping anything?
Prices have gone way up, amazon and every other online retailer giving free shipping have skewed peoples views of how much it should cost.
Shipping a deck on the west coast to the same zone is around $11-13 if you have the smallest box possible.
I live in washington state and shipping a deck to Texas cost around $27 USPS AND $22 UPS.
I deal wish shipping sticker shock a lot, people trip out thinking I am over charging but for a larger item
33x10x4 4/5lbs it can get kind of expensive.
That being said, Jamie needs his head checked.
I see where you are coming from and in some cases I'm down to pay a premium for super fast shipping, but I'd like the option to have shit shipped out parcel post via USPS. Parcel post costs basically nothing even though it takes like 10-14 days to get across the country.
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Not in defense of jamie but when is the last time you tried shipping anything?
Prices have gone way up, amazon and every other online retailer giving free shipping have skewed peoples views of how much it should cost.
Shipping a deck on the west coast to the same zone is around $11-13 if you have the smallest box possible.
I live in washington state and shipping a deck to Texas cost around $27 USPS AND $22 UPS.
I deal wish shipping sticker shock a lot, people trip out thinking I am over charging but for a larger item
33x10x4 4/5lbs it can get kind of expensive.
That being said, Jamie needs his head checked.
I see where you are coming from and in some cases I'm down to pay a premium for super fast shipping, but I'd like the option to have shit shipped out parcel post via USPS. Parcel post costs basically nothing even though it takes like 10-14 days to get across the country.
Sometimes, especially with eBay, untracked ground shipping isn't an option if you want to cover your ass as a seller in any meaningful way. Ground shipping can also have limits on insurance before they make you bump up to the next shipping option. eBay sides with the buyer pretty heavily when things go south so as a seller you do what you can to insulate.
Also, despite how big the States is, y'alls shipping is still obscenely cheap compared to most places. Colour me jealous.
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If you squint your eyes a bit his ebay seller name looks like garagegayscollection
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If you squint your eyes a bit his ebay seller name looks like garagegayscollection
New conspiracy: Jamie Thomas is selling all gay skaters out of his garage to the black market
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You'd think that skateboard with John 3:16 on the bottom would just sort of sweep away everything negative and make things right between these two. I'm starting to doubt if the Bible is really real now.
EDIT: has it already been established somewhere that links, pics, quotes is NOT this Windler fellow? Because if it hasn't, then LPQ is Windler, right? Or am I not the Sherlock Holmes I thought I was?
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You'd think that skateboard with John 3:16 on the bottom would just sort of sweep away everything negative and make things right between these two. I'm starting to doubt if the Bible is really real now.
EDIT: has it already been established somewhere that links, pics, quotes is NOT this Windler fellow? Because if it hasn't, then LPQ is Windler, right? Or am I not the Sherlock Holmes I thought I was?
I'm pretty sure LPQ is not the skaten lawyer. LPQ has been a round for awhile now so if it is Windler then they are playing a long game. I think they are just an excellent researcher. As has been said, most of this info is already out there, you just have to know where to look.
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Also, despite how big the States is, y'alls shipping is still obscenely cheap compared to most places. Colour me jealous.
Internet retail dude here to tell you it's not really that cheap, but consumer perception on shipping is skewed to hell and probably won't ever be realistic again thanks to Amazon etc. who fucked it up for the rest of us.
After 20 years in biz and shipping out anywhere from 25k-40k parcels a year for 3/4 of that, you learn that UPS, FedEx and USPS are all raging assholes when it comes to doing you favors. Seriously, even when we'd have growth spurts, they'd be like "Well, let's bump your discounted pricing from 20% off to 20.8%, won't that be great?" right before they'd put another 2% increase into things a few months later.
Had to go to a shipping consolidator who was able to get us closer to 45% off the regular rates and about 60% off express services, and know what? It STILL costs me an average of $13 to send an 8 lb. box to most spots in the US by Ground and since my margins suck ass, I can't reduce my shipping any and stay viable.
Amazon and those who are supreme salespeople on how "big they'll be in the future" who can woo the shipping companies have managed to get closer to 80% or so off the regular rates. So, this means that the box I have to ship for about $13 rather than around $20 before discount, well, they're only paying about $4.50 for that same shipment. Which is why they can give "free" shipping since they pay so little for it, and because they're forcing suppliers to give them added discounts on product in order to get preferential placement many times. The main shippers add $3.50 more if you want shit delivered to your home rather than a business address, and if you live a few miles outside a major city? Well, get ready for another $2-4 in "rural delivery surcharge" shit that might make that $13 shipment jump over $15 in a heartbeat. If you ever want do to favors for the companies you like, have your shit shipped to your work whenever you can, because I can tell you, you'll save a few bucks in doing so.
More often, smaller companies doing cheap/low cost shipping can just do it because they work on bigger margins and subsidize their ship costs by covering part of it. Easy to do when you have a $10 item that you mark up to $30, hard to do when my $10 item only sells for $14-15 and you've got a staff who needs to get paid.
Shipping shit fucking sucks for most of us because we deal with people writing to bitch about why we're not doing what the world's largest internet retailer does, and when you try to explain it to them, they just think you're full of shit and take their biz elsewhere. Precisely why I'm planning a 2020 exit, until the day comes that shoppers have a grip on the reality of what the cost of doing business is and stop freaking out about having to pay actual cost for a service to get their fucking goods on their doorstep in a day or two for the ultimate in convenience, I don't want to deal with it.
/rant, sorry to bitch, but shipping cost stuff and the perception of costs just get under my skin.
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You'd think that skateboard with John 3:16 on the bottom would just sort of sweep away everything negative and make things right between these two. I'm starting to doubt if the Bible is really real now.
EDIT: has it already been established somewhere that links, pics, quotes is NOT this Windler fellow? Because if it hasn't, then LPQ is Windler, right? Or am I not the Sherlock Holmes I thought I was?
That's fucking rad. Resourceful, curious people are so amazing to lazy, incompetent people like me.
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Also, despite how big the States is, y'alls shipping is still obscenely cheap compared to most places. Colour me jealous.
Internet retail dude here to tell you it's not really that cheap, but consumer perception on shipping is skewed to hell and probably won't ever be realistic again thanks to Amazon etc. who fucked it up for the rest of us.
After 20 years in biz and shipping out anywhere from 25k-40k parcels a year for 3/4 of that, you learn that UPS, FedEx and USPS are all raging assholes when it comes to doing you favors. Seriously, even when we'd have growth spurts, they'd be like "Well, let's bump your discounted pricing from 20% off to 20.8%, won't that be great?" right before they'd put another 2% increase into things a few months later.
Had to go to a shipping consolidator who was able to get us closer to 45% off the regular rates and about 60% off express services, and know what? It STILL costs me an average of $13 to send an 8 lb. box to most spots in the US by Ground and since my margins suck ass, I can't reduce my shipping any and stay viable.
Amazon and those who are supreme salespeople on how "big they'll be in the future" who can woo the shipping companies have managed to get closer to 80% or so off the regular rates. So, this means that the box I have to ship for about $13 rather than around $20 before discount, well, they're only paying about $4.50 for that same shipment. Which is why they can give "free" shipping since they pay so little for it, and because they're forcing suppliers to give them added discounts on product in order to get preferential placement many times. The main shippers add $3.50 more if you want shit delivered to your home rather than a business address, and if you live a few miles outside a major city? Well, get ready for another $2-4 in "rural delivery surcharge" shit that might make that $13 shipment jump over $15 in a heartbeat. If you ever want do to favors for the companies you like, have your shit shipped to your work whenever you can, because I can tell you, you'll save a few bucks in doing so.
More often, smaller companies doing cheap/low cost shipping can just do it because they work on bigger margins and subsidize their ship costs by covering part of it. Easy to do when you have a $10 item that you mark up to $30, hard to do when my $10 item only sells for $14-15 and you've got a staff who needs to get paid.
Shipping shit fucking sucks for most of us because we deal with people writing to bitch about why we're not doing what the world's largest internet retailer does, and when you try to explain it to them, they just think you're full of shit and take their biz elsewhere. Precisely why I'm planning a 2020 exit, until the day comes that shoppers have a grip on the reality of what the cost of doing business is and stop freaking out about having to pay actual cost for a service to get their fucking goods on their doorstep in a day or two for the ultimate in convenience, I don't want to deal with it.
/rant, sorry to bitch, but shipping cost stuff and the perception of costs just get under my skin.
Rant appreciated, always good to have that kind of info. My girl and I have been doing online business for the last 5 years or so, so inside info from someone who did it for as long as yourself is welcome. I didn't mean to over-generalize, as I'm mostly speaking from a smaller person-to-person side of online retail. I'm in Canada, shipping an 8lb box would be around $20+ depending on which coast (and indeed people still piss and moan that they're getting bilked extra by the seller).
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Rant appreciated, always good to have that kind of info. My girl and I have been doing online business for the last 5 years or so, so inside info from someone who did it for as long as yourself is welcome. I didn't mean to over-generalize, as I'm mostly speaking from a smaller person-to-person side of online retail. I'm in Canada, shipping an 8lb box would be around $20+ depending on which coast (and indeed people still piss and moan that they're getting bilked extra by the seller).
No worries, sir. I just always like to clear the air about shipping stuff because if I can help someone else know more about how the game works, it can save some stress and headaches since so many people mistakenly assume that everyone pays the same rates to send stuff.
I have friends with businesses that are in Canada who ship, and they said it's even worse there for everything cost-wise, I compared rates with someone once and even though we had similar discount levels, his costs were probably 25% more on average, which sucks.
Best of luck with trying to keep costs in place and from getting out of hand, it's literally the one thing pushing me out of doing what I used to love, but that's the way it goes now. I'm sort of hoping that Amazon DOES actually build their own shipping and logistics company as they have said they're planning which means that UPS, FedEx and the postal service will all be over a barrel trying to actually cater to the little guy for once again and not just blowing Bezos at every chance once he's doing his own thing.
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honestly, i could read a 10 page thread on shipping and i hope that's what this thread turns into
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honestly, i could read a 10 page thread on shipping and i hope that's what this thread turns into
I can make it happen.
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honestly, i could read a 10 page thread on shipping and i hope that's what this thread turns into
I can make it happen.
I had to prep an RFQ for the company I worked for. I pulled five years of shipping invoices and made spreadsheets that showed how much we ship to each state/country and how much we paid for it. UPS and fedex came back with similar offers. We ended up going with Fedex. It was nice for me because I had less invoices to process since our UPS account went to almost nothing.
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I wanna know who on Slap is running the pro skateboarding news Instagram.
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honestly, i could read a 10 page thread on shipping and i hope that's what this thread turns into
And I hope that it's occurred to you that Garage Days has to have a few boxes of tangible Circa Combat spam stored somewhere that they'd be happy to never ever ship to anyone.
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I wanna know who on Slap is running the pro skateboarding news Instagram.
I’ve been wondering this!!
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Not in defense of jamie but when is the last time you tried shipping anything?
Prices have gone way up, amazon and every other online retailer giving free shipping have skewed peoples views of how much it should cost.
Shipping a deck on the west coast to the same zone is around $11-13 if you have the smallest box possible.
I live in washington state and shipping a deck to Texas cost around $27 USPS AND $22 UPS.
I deal wish shipping sticker shock a lot, people trip out thinking I am over charging but for a larger item
33x10x4 4/5lbs it can get kind of expensive.
That being said, Jamie needs his head checked.
Check out FedEx SmartPost. I just shipped Cali to Kentucky for about $15.
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You'd think that skateboard with John 3:16 on the bottom would just sort of sweep away everything negative and make things right between these two. I'm starting to doubt if the Bible is really real now.
Hey Everyone.
Can anyone explain JT's fascination with Jesus Christ? Since when are Misfits fiends Jesus freaks?
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honestly, i could read a 10 page thread on shipping and i hope that's what this thread turns into
Are you saying you want somebody to start writing about an imaginary sexual rendezvous between The Chief and The Florida Litigator?
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honestly, i could read a 10 page thread on shipping and i hope that's what this thread turns into
Are you saying you want somebody to start writing about an imaginary sexual rendezvous between The Chief and The Florida Litigator?
Only if it's set in a church turned devil's whorehouse.
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honestly, i could read a 10 page thread on shipping and i hope that's what this thread turns into
Are you saying you want somebody to start writing about an imaginary sexual rendezvous between The Chief and The Florida Litigator?
;D nice one.
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Can I get a TL;DR on what the fuck is going on in this thread?
Thanks in advance
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Can I get a TL;DR on what the fuck is going on in this thread?
Thanks in advance
- Chief bilked a moron for dead stock Black Box stuff
- Said moron turned out to be a litigator
- General pissing match and gaslighting between two grown men ensues
- Shipping rates are exorbitant for small businesses
- Possible erotically charged fan-fic of the affair coming soon
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honestly, i could read a 10 page thread on shipping and i hope that's what this thread turns into
I can make it happen.
I had to prep an RFQ for the company I worked for. I pulled five years of shipping invoices and made spreadsheets that showed how much we ship to each state/country and how much we paid for it. UPS and fedex came back with similar offers. We ended up going with Fedex. It was nice for me because I had less invoices to process since our UPS account went to almost nothing.
Little known fact, UPS and FedEx basically just mirror each other's base rates, whatever you get beyond that is pretty much just based on who your rep is and how much faith they have in seeing you grow if they do you some extra discounting.
This is why sites can't technically show real time rates for FedEx and UPS at the same time, since both companies kind of collude on where pricing is set, so that to be within their terms you have to at least switch between the two for real time rates to be seen. However, you can show 1 in real time and one as a flat rate simultaneously. Nobody cares about that, but I felt like sharing it anyway.
As for which shipper is superior, it's such a tough call. FedEx has WAY better logistics for me shipping to the East Coast and most of my customers get stuff in 2 days rather than 3 days from the Midwest where I'm located, which is great when I send out perishable shit that can't go more than 2 days so people don't have to pony up the scratch for 2 Day Air's higher costs. However, FedEx's drives are notorious for having WAY more delivery issues in my 20+ years of shipping shit as compared to UPS. Literally, even with being tracked at every step of their day, I'll have FedEx insisting that they delivered to the right place when my customer is saying they were home all day but nobody arrived. Even when it ends up that someone down the block brings them their shit, FedEx will still try to deny culpability in the error, where UPS tends to not try to fuck with me nearly as much and usually accepts more responsibility.
It's a trade-off, you'll get some shit with one that you won't get with the other, but it always seems to come at a price elsewhere in service.
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Check out FedEx SmartPost. I just shipped Cali to Kentucky for about $15.
SmartPost (and UPS' SurePost equivalent) are kind of a mixed bag once you know how they work.
Basically, the ONLY difference between their services and standard Ground for home delivery are that you pay about $3.50 less by their removal of the home delivery surcharge for a residence because, once the box reaches the destination city, FedEx or UPS kicks it over to the local post office for final delivery and gives them a small cut of the ship costs in exchange. Which means something if you're really trying to keep costs down, but rather than maybe 1-4 days, you can sometimes be looking at 7-10+ days just for that bit of savings. Since your postal carrier comes by every day anyway, it's why the do this, so they can just cut their own drivers out of the loop and rely on the USPS supply chain to complete it. Fine if nothing is urgent, but sometimes it's slower than molasses and good fucking luck filing a claim if it gets lost or damaged because FedEx or UPS will just blame it on the USPS since they tendered it last for delivery. The savings comes at other costs, that's for sure.
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Can I get a TL;DR on what the fuck is going on in this thread?
Thanks in advance
- Chief bilked a moron for dead stock Black Box stuff
- Said moron turned out to be a litigator
- General pissing match and gaslighting between two grown men ensues
- Shipping rates are exorbitant for small businesses
- Possible erotically charged fan-fic of the affair coming soon
“Jamie stiffed me.”
“I’d like to stiff you. If you know what I mean.”
“Oh, indeedy I do.”
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Can I get a TL;DR on what the fuck is going on in this thread?
Thanks in advance
- Chief bilked a moron for dead stock Black Box stuff
- Said moron turned out to be a litigator
- General pissing match and gaslighting between two grown men ensues
- Shipping rates are exorbitant for small businesses
- Possible erotically charged fan-fic of the affair coming soon
“Jamie stiffed me.”
“I’d like to stiff you. If you know what I mean.”
“Oh, indeedy I do.”
1 cross + 3 nails = Safety phrase
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I like how he is signing everything he's putting on ebay. makes it feel a little bit more special
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Really? I think it looks desperate. Unsigned Jamie Thomas decks are rarer than signed Jamie thomas decks. Also, why is he signing Mystery decks? I’d rather have an Adrian Lopez signed Mystery deck than a Jamie Thomas signed Mystery deck.
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Really? I think it looks desperate. Unsigned Jamie Thomas decks are rarer than signed Jamie thomas decks. Also, why is he signing Mystery decks? I’d rather have an Adrian Lopez signed Mystery deck than a Jamie Thomas signed Mystery deck.
I'd rather have a nice sandwich than either of those.
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Really? I think it looks desperate. Unsigned Jamie Thomas decks are rarer than signed Jamie thomas decks. Also, why is he signing Mystery decks? I’d rather have an Adrian Lopez signed Mystery deck than a Jamie Thomas signed Mystery deck.
I'd rather have a nice sandwich than either of those.
Signed or unsigned?
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Depends on which is more ultra rare.
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The only piece of memorabilia I would want from him is if he had that random guy's prosthetic eye.
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The only piece of memorabilia I would want from him is if he had that random guy's prosthetic eye.
Sheldon Meleshinski isn't a fucking random. Watch Port Moody Blues.
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He may be referring to the Welcome To Hell dude
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He may be referring to the Welcome To Hell dude
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He may be referring to the Welcome To Hell dude
yea
Ah my misunderstanding. ❤
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The only piece of memorabilia I would want from him is if he had that random guy's prosthetic eye.
Great skateboarder but yeah my mind went straight to Welcome to hell haha
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Really? I think it looks desperate. Unsigned Jamie Thomas decks are rarer than signed Jamie thomas decks. Also, why is he signing Mystery decks? I’d rather have an Adrian Lopez signed Mystery deck than a Jamie Thomas signed Mystery deck.
I'd rather have a nice sandwich than either of those.
Signed or unsigned?
I'm leaning unsigned. But what if that sandwich was made by a well loved sandwich artist? If they signed the lower left corner of my bun, would I not still buy? Is this now an investment piece? Is there a market for consumed art? Who will do the restoration 100 years from now? This is upsetting, now I'm even happier that I never owned a pair of Fallens. JamieT causing despair over here. Gay, if you have any answers, please respond.
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The only piece of memorabilia I would want from him is if he had that random guy's prosthetic eye.
Hit up Satva
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I tagged Wendler on the garage days post on insta about someone backing out of a $350 signed Ed deck. The comment has been deleted
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The only piece of memorabilia I would want from him is if he had that random guy's prosthetic eye.
Hit up Satva
I can't be a real man because I don't know his insta
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Considering buying a deck from Garage Days. Can anyone here tell me what the difference is between “rare” and “ULTRA RARE”?
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Considering buying a deck from Garage Days. Can anyone here tell me what the difference is between “rare” and “ULTRA RARE”?
Ultra rare (also called super rare) cards are typically marked as Rare Holofoil cards, but sometimes have unique symbols denoting their rarity. As such, they will replace the rare card in the Booster pack. As their name suggests, ultra rare cards are far more difficult to acquire than typical rare cards.
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So a Pete Rose card would qualify as “rare” and a Pete Rose rookie would be “ULTRA RARE” AF?
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http://youtu.be/iqu132vTl5Y
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Dude is just as cringe worthy as Berra these days. Should get it over with and shit can zero and just skate for something else or just for fun.
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i guess ISUCK is leaning in
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“This listing is for a bootleg Zero 'Crimson Ghost' board.
I bought this board on ebay 5 years or so ago & love the fact that it's a bootleg; it is rare in that it's coming from me.
It also comes with a signed skull sticker.
Thanks,
Jamie Thomas”
i guess ISUCK is leaning in
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I like how he is signing everything he's putting on ebay. makes it feel a little bit more special
He recently posted a Misfit fiend deck celebrating the original lineup. I saw a signature and thought rad, it must be Glen or Jerry, but nope, Jamie Thomas.
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Jamie Thomas has an owl dick.
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Jamie Thomas is a freeballer and a light packer who used to borrow Sophisto jeans from local skateshops to go on photo missions, try really hard to be quick enough with his trick to break as little ball sweat as possible, then return the jeans back onto the skateshop rack. THAT is savage asfffff.
If he could retrieve all those jeans today somehow, he could definitely use Garage Days to financially flip the current situation upside down.
'The mold inside the thigh is a seal of authenticity'.
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who the fuck are these "collectors" buying lindsey robertson decks haha solid investment dope collection.
free max b
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who the fuck are these "collectors" buying lindsey robertson decks haha solid investment dope collection.
free max b
hahahahahahahaha
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I like how he is signing everything he's putting on ebay. makes it feel a little bit more special
hahaha I'm surprised you thought it would/could have been Glen or jerry
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Status??
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Status??
Online in dark mode.
Wbu?
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Civil lawsuits don't move very quickly. Surprised Fl. dude didn't file an emergency TRO / PI to get a preliminary ruling on some of this stuff quick, especially since it looks like Jamie is trying to sell the collection on Ebay right now
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All those Fallens are hideous. He's lucky a few idiots with money want to buy them based on his name.
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Bump.
Why hasnt the LinkPicsQuotes account posted any document updates?
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can't you just post the blacked out juicy stuff?
(or at least give us a TL;DR?)
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This is the weirdest shit ever.
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Can you imagine going to law school for all those years just to litigate over some of JTs scribbled on decks? I would probably question all of my decisions leading up to that point, just like every young, hotshot doctor who has had to give me a rectal exam.
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Can you imagine going to law school for all those years just to litigate over some of JTs scribbled on decks? I would probably question all of my decisions leading up to that point, just like every young, hotshot doctor who has had to give me a rectal exam.
A paycheck is a paycheck. I'd be more embarrassed to represent the guy who bought the collection.
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This is absolutely on the low end of lawyer fuckery. The legal market took a nosedive in the recession and never recovered, but law schools continue to churn out JDs to keep the money flowing. Every year, a new crop of clueless, craven goons wander into the world with a credential that carries upper class debt but only provides a middle class income. It's a bloodbath.
This is probably a best case scenario, as these two jerks are only hurting each other.
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This is absolutely on the low end of lawyer fuckery. The legal market took a nosedive in the recession and never recovered, but law schools continue to churn out JDs to keep the money flowing. Every year, a new crop of clueless, craven goons wander into the world with a credential that carries upper class debt but only provides a middle class income. It's a bloodbath.
This is probably a best case scenario, as these two jerks are only hurting each other.
I dont have a dog in this fight so I dont give a moose's shit either way, but even if what you say is true does that give JT an excuse to try and take advantage of one of his fans who happens to be an attorney?
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I don't have a dog in this fight so I dont give a moose's shit either way, but even if what you say is true does that give JT an excuse to try and take advantage of one of his fans who happens to be an attorney?
Definitely not. Cheef is way out of pocket, but it's nice that the damage is limited to this goober. He should have known better and structured the transaction to protect himself.
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This is absolutely on the low end of lawyer fuckery. The legal market took a nosedive in the recession and never recovered, but law schools continue to churn out JDs to keep the money flowing. Every year, a new crop of clueless, craven goons wander into the world with a credential that carries upper class debt but only provides a middle class income. It's a bloodbath.
This is probably a best case scenario, as these two jerks are only hurting each other.
I don’t know anything about ‘lawyer fuckery’ but I do appreciate this take. Out of curiosity, what in particular are some of the things that come off as ‘low end fuckery’?
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I don’t know anything about ‘lawyer fuckery’ but I do appreciate this take. Out of curiosity, what in particular are some of the things that come off as ‘low end fuckery’?
As the economy contracts, so does the legal market, just with a small delay. So as things really hit the skids around 2008, the legal market hit a death spiral around 2009. And while things ticked up a bit, the legal market never fully recovered. I don't think it ever will.
A big part of this is the drift away from billable hours. Enormous firms thrived for decades billing their top clients for as many hours as possible. Young associates served as worker bees, making a generous salary but required to clock tons of time for the client to stay on track. This system meant law school grads could expect to enter a lucrative job after graduation, which, while demanding, put them on pace to pay off their six-figure debts.
The recession changed things. Large firms were wary of taking on young associates for several reasons. First, they worried whether they could afford to keep the bills paid if their billable hours didn't spike back up. Second, many senior attorneys who would've moved on stuck around because of the retirement money they lost in the recession. Third, the large companies who the firms were billing started seeing things differently. They increasingly relied on in-house counsel, and in situations where they needed outside help, were less enthused about billable hours. Why not negotiate a price for the service up front instead of letting a firm run the meter? Finally, technology has changed the value of the work. Many things you could bill for in the past are now easy to accomplish with command+F, or can be done for pennies on the dollar in India.
Things quickly got ugly in the law schools. Firms recruited less so the competition for spots escalated. But the law schools, who wooed professors from firms and high profile government jobs, needed cash to keep the bills paid. So while there were less and less legal jobs, the size of law school classes stayed the same, or grew.
There are creepy people in every profession. But many people go to law school because they have a liberal arts BA and no idea what to do with themselves. And some of them have no interest in the work, but think they'll get rich. So, picture it: a generation of greedy, grasping people, who thought they'd make big racks, wandering into a bad market with upwards of $250,000 in debt. Desperation is sky-high.
We all grew up in a world where law meant you were set for life, and things have changed. For most people, it's a middle class job. So, amid this grim picture, a lawyer suing Jamie Thomas for taking his money and never delivering the collectible (???) skateboards he paid for is very tame.
Thank you for watching my TED Talk.
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Jamie "Redacted" Thomas
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I don’t know anything about ‘lawyer fuckery’ but I do appreciate this take. Out of curiosity, what in particular are some of the things that come off as ‘low end fuckery’?
As the economy contracts, so does the legal market, just with a small delay. So as things really hit the skids around 2008, the legal market hit a death spiral around 2009. And while things ticked up a bit, the legal market never fully recovered. I don't think it ever will.
A big part of this is the drift away from billable hours. Enormous firms thrived for decades billing their top clients for as many hours as possible. Young associates served as worker bees, making a generous salary but required to clock tons of time for the client to stay on track. This system meant law school grads could expect to enter a lucrative job after graduation, which, while demanding, put them on pace to pay off their six-figure debts.
The recession changed things. Large firms were wary of taking on young associates for several reasons. First, they worried whether they could afford to keep the bills paid if their billable hours didn't spike back up. Second, many senior attorneys who would've moved on stuck around because of the retirement money they lost in the recession. Third, the large companies who the firms were billing started seeing things differently. They increasingly relied on in-house counsel, and in situations where they needed outside help, were less enthused about billable hours. Why not negotiate a price for the service up front instead of letting a firm run the meter? Finally, technology has changed the value of the work. Many things you could bill for in the past are now easy to accomplish with command+F, or can be done for pennies on the dollar in India.
Things quickly got ugly in the law schools. Firms recruited less so the competition for spots escalated. But the law schools, who wooed professors from firms and high profile government jobs, needed cash to keep the bills paid. So while there were less and less legal jobs, the size of law school classes stayed the same, or grew.
There are creepy people in every profession. But many people go to law school because they have a liberal arts BA and no idea what to do with themselves. And some of them have no interest in the work, but think they'll get rich. So, picture it: a generation of greedy, grasping people, who thought they'd make big racks, wandering into a bad market with upwards of $250,000 in debt. Desperation is sky-high.
We all grew up in a world where law meant you were set for life, and things have changed. For most people, it's a middle class job. So, amid this grim picture, a lawyer suing Jamie Thomas for taking his money and never delivering the collectible (???) skateboards he paid for is very tame.
Thank you for watching my TED Talk.
10/10, would gnar if I could.
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I don’t know anything about ‘lawyer fuckery’ but I do appreciate this take. Out of curiosity, what in particular are some of the things that come off as ‘low end fuckery’?
As the economy contracts, so does the legal market, just with a small delay. So as things really hit the skids around 2008, the legal market hit a death spiral around 2009. And while things ticked up a bit, the legal market never fully recovered. I don't think it ever will.
A big part of this is the drift away from billable hours. Enormous firms thrived for decades billing their top clients for as many hours as possible. Young associates served as worker bees, making a generous salary but required to clock tons of time for the client to stay on track. This system meant law school grads could expect to enter a lucrative job after graduation, which, while demanding, put them on pace to pay off their six-figure debts.
The recession changed things. Large firms were wary of taking on young associates for several reasons. First, they worried whether they could afford to keep the bills paid if their billable hours didn't spike back up. Second, many senior attorneys who would've moved on stuck around because of the retirement money they lost in the recession. Third, the large companies who the firms were billing started seeing things differently. They increasingly relied on in-house counsel, and in situations where they needed outside help, were less enthused about billable hours. Why not negotiate a price for the service up front instead of letting a firm run the meter? Finally, technology has changed the value of the work. Many things you could bill for in the past are now easy to accomplish with command+F, or can be done for pennies on the dollar in India.
Things quickly got ugly in the law schools. Firms recruited less so the competition for spots escalated. But the law schools, who wooed professors from firms and high profile government jobs, needed cash to keep the bills paid. So while there were less and less legal jobs, the size of law school classes stayed the same, or grew.
There are creepy people in every profession. But many people go to law school because they have a liberal arts BA and no idea what to do with themselves. And some of them have no interest in the work, but think they'll get rich. So, picture it: a generation of greedy, grasping people, who thought they'd make big racks, wandering into a bad market with upwards of $250,000 in debt. Desperation is sky-high.
We all grew up in a world where law meant you were set for life, and things have changed. For most people, it's a middle class job. So, amid this grim picture, a lawyer suing Jamie Thomas for taking his money and never delivering the collectible (???) skateboards he paid for is very tame.
Thank you for watching my TED Talk.
Goddamnit, this really took the wind out of my informative shipping-related posts. How dare you!
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I don’t know anything about ‘lawyer fuckery’ but I do appreciate this take. Out of curiosity, what in particular are some of the things that come off as ‘low end fuckery’?
As the economy contracts, so does the legal market, just with a small delay. So as things really hit the skids around 2008, the legal market hit a death spiral around 2009. And while things ticked up a bit, the legal market never fully recovered. I don't think it ever will.
A big part of this is the drift away from billable hours. Enormous firms thrived for decades billing their top clients for as many hours as possible. Young associates served as worker bees, making a generous salary but required to clock tons of time for the client to stay on track. This system meant law school grads could expect to enter a lucrative job after graduation, which, while demanding, put them on pace to pay off their six-figure debts.
The recession changed things. Large firms were wary of taking on young associates for several reasons. First, they worried whether they could afford to keep the bills paid if their billable hours didn't spike back up. Second, many senior attorneys who would've moved on stuck around because of the retirement money they lost in the recession. Third, the large companies who the firms were billing started seeing things differently. They increasingly relied on in-house counsel, and in situations where they needed outside help, were less enthused about billable hours. Why not negotiate a price for the service up front instead of letting a firm run the meter? Finally, technology has changed the value of the work. Many things you could bill for in the past are now easy to accomplish with command+F, or can be done for pennies on the dollar in India.
Things quickly got ugly in the law schools. Firms recruited less so the competition for spots escalated. But the law schools, who wooed professors from firms and high profile government jobs, needed cash to keep the bills paid. So while there were less and less legal jobs, the size of law school classes stayed the same, or grew.
There are creepy people in every profession. But many people go to law school because they have a liberal arts BA and no idea what to do with themselves. And some of them have no interest in the work, but think they'll get rich. So, picture it: a generation of greedy, grasping people, who thought they'd make big racks, wandering into a bad market with upwards of $250,000 in debt. Desperation is sky-high.
We all grew up in a world where law meant you were set for life, and things have changed. For most people, it's a middle class job. So, amid this grim picture, a lawyer suing Jamie Thomas for taking his money and never delivering the collectible (???) skateboards he paid for is very tame.
Thank you for watching my TED Talk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7VQ0JITnB0
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Excuse me that video should be titled Were Our $420,000 In Student Loans Worth It?!?
And that sentence is awkward af anyway
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I'm hoping Wendler shows up at the Damn It All premiere to confront The Chief.
lol that'd be hilarious and chief would be so bummed
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chief gonna swing by wendlers place n take him to taco bell on the way to the premiere
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A few things we can all take away from this shitshow:
- Whatever you do, always get it in writing. Wendler's case is okay, but it would be a lot better if he had something outside of text messages to hold up as a contract
- Progress payments are your friend, especially for something like this where he didn't have enough liquidity to take down the transaction all at once. If he'd paid for a chunk of the boards at a time and only sent more money once Jamie delivered, none of this happens.
- Create boundaries - they help things stay professional. I don't know Wendler, but this is the behavior of a superfan, someone who really looked up to Jamie, loved Zero, and wanted to write himself into the story. That's not a good headspace for business. He got manipulated thinking that they had a personal connection. Jamie probably saw him as an easy mark, and he was right.
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I'm hoping Wendler shows up at the Damn It All premiere to confront The Chief.
Wendler should buy all the premiere tickets like 50 Cent did at a Ja Rule concert. It'd just be Jamie sitting alone in an empty theatre.
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Has it already been covered ( also they people posting laws and seem like they understand lawyer world more than I do I hoping a response from one of you.) how did wendler a lawyer get himself in such a dumb situation shouldn’t he have had more knowledge to avoid this than a normal average person.
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This whole thread still confuses me. The Chief didn't want to send him the stuff because the shipping rate was too high?
Or the Lawyer didn't want to pay to have the stuff shipped to him?
Who is actually at fault here?
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Apparently Jamie held on to some of the stock he was supposed to send him. I don't think he sent him all the boards they had agreed on and sent him some different boards instead.
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Had some time today so I went through the filings to create a timeline.
+ March 2018: Matthew Wendler ("W") and Jamie Thomas ("JT") meet at Tampa Pro.
+ December 9, 2018: W White Knights for JT on Instagram, squabbling with Baltimore-based Carpet Company over their use of a Zero Skull logo for a deck graphic. Let the record reflect that the original Zero tees were a blatant rip off of a popular Smashing Pumpkins design.
+ December 24, 2018: JT alleges W sends $15,138 "unsolicited," and that W suggested he make him a grab bag of product totaling that price.
+ January 11, 2019: W alleges JT offers the sale of a complete set of Mystery decks.
+ January 2019: JT initiates discussions on sale of Garage Days, including the website and inventory, less $20,000 (MSRP) in stock, in exchange for a down payment of $55,000, the remainder of the price to be paid in installments, w/ interest. W alleges deal also included a right of first refusal to purchase any decks from JT's collection. (Right of first refusal means you get an opportunity to purchase the good before all other potential buyers.) W alleges he was told he could purchase Zero product at wholesale, for a startup business, and that the decks would be signed by pros for $50-100 apiece, which later raised to $250.
+ February 12, 2019: W asks JT for a guarantee that the set includes one of each Mystery board, JT allegedly replies that the set is not complete.
+ February 14, 2019: W & JT discuss purchase of a set of approximately 300 decks located in Australia, purchased wholesale from a distributor for $5,000. W alleges JT promised to purchase them, and, less some decks for JT's personal collection, convey the remainder to W.
+ February 27, 2019: W allegedly conveys the agreed upon $5k to JT for purchase of Australian collection. W also claims that he spoke to the Australian collector, and that JT purchased the decks for $5,000.
+ March 2019: Under JT's direction, W meets a professional skateboarder at Tampa Pro, who is paid $370 to sign product for W. W alleges JT shipped incomplete Mystery Collection, asks for more money to fill gaps.
+ April 22, 2019: JT announces Garage Days Collection sold, W alleges "most of" the down payment was paid, but that he was already concerned about non-performance. W alleges JT said he was under "financial pressure" due to a personal issue, and needed more money. In response, W asks JT to guarantee in writing he's not withholding product. Around this time, boards start appearing on the Garage Days eBay account at prices beyond the alleged agreement w/ W.
+ April 27,2019: JT mentions "shelving" the Garage Days transaction, offers to refund W $3,000, W refuses. JT says Garage Days transaction off the table. JT suggests W should agree to new terms as conflict would work to the disadvantage of W's proposed startup, since JT is the established pro and W is some guy in Florida who really liked Mystery.
+ May 17, 2019: 2,434 lbs of product ship from Crossroads to W. Likely not good for JT's case and his assertion that Florida is not the proper venue, when he shipped an actual ton of product to Broward County.
+ June 15, 2019: W inspects shipment, sends JT accounting of allegedly missing product. W asserts he received 30% of promised decks, very little clothing, no shoes, no DVDs.
+ June 17, 2019: JT mails W a "chomp on this" sprayed sheet of griptape.
+ Much of the action since has centered on a dispute over venue. W sued JT in Florida and wants the case to proceed there, JT claims Florida isn't the proper spot, and that all of his communications with W were never as himself, but rather on behalf of Crossroads LLC. Also says the agreement for Garage Days sale was never complete because (1) loan terms were never finalized; and (2) goods never insured.
+ Beyond just generally feeling ripped off, W bases a lot of his legal argument around the idea that he'd planned a business where this wholesale purchase was going to allow him to launch, so by breaching the contract, JT has caused material and financial losses to that business. He thinks that his ideas for revamping the GDC website qualify as "trade secrets".
+ Taking the situation in sum, what W wanted to really buy was legitimacy. He loved being in close proximity to someone he admired, and then believed that this deal could be his ticket into the skate industry. W thought he had a personal connection with JT, ignored red flags, and made a lot of wild decisions thinking they had a real relationship. Paying $55,000 + more for GDC was crazy enough, but look at the $15,138 he sent for product he hadn't even picked out. That's not a rational decision. Neither is continuing to proceed with deals and send funds when the terms of your previous agreements still aren't satisfied.
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When reached for comment, JT's lawyer commented "Hoody Hoo"
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When reached for comment, JT's lawyer commented "Hoody Hoo"
W’s response was a snarky “damn it all.”
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Thanks n0torious. I had held off reading most of this thread and your summary just paid off.
The thing I can't get my head around is why on earth anybody would want so much Zero/Mystery/Fallen product. Like who would want a complete collection of Mystery boards? I have various collections and hobbies myself but this is just beyond strange
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Thanks n0torious. I had held off reading most of this thread and your summary just paid off.
The thing I can't get my head around is why on earth anybody would want so much Zero/Mystery/Fallen product. Like who would want a complete collection of Mystery boards? I have various collections and hobbies myself but this is just beyond strange
a strange world, if you will
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Thanks n0torious. I had held off reading most of this thread and your summary just paid off.
The thing I can't get my head around is why on earth anybody would want so much Zero/Mystery/Fallen product. Like who would want a complete collection of Mystery boards? I have various collections and hobbies myself but this is just beyond strange
a strange world, if you will
Haha touché
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+ May 17, 2019: 2,434 lbs of product ship from Crossroads to W. Likely not good for JT's case and his assertion that Florida is not the proper venue, when he shipped an actual ton of product to Broward County.
This part made me laugh.
You should do investigate reporting or something—this was a super concise rundown of a total clusterfuck.
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I love this part:
"+ June 17, 2019: JT mails W a "chomp on this" sprayed sheet of griptape."
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chief blew it there definitely is not a single person on earth besides him and the guy suing him that would want a mystery board let alone pay for it.
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I wonder if JT thought that chomp on this griptape would smooth everything over and make this all go away?
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Thanks guys. I skimmed the filings and couldn't make sense of what the hell happened - the filings frequently jump time periods. W structures his brief around the three separate deals, but doesn't consistently describe events with dates. The writing's generally a mess. Where there's a clear dispute of facts I used "allegedly," and the majority of the narrative comes from W.
The elements of a contract are (1) an offer; (2) acceptance; (3) consideration; (4) mutuality of obligation; (5) competency and capacity; and sometimes (6) a written instrument. Clearly there is some form of 1 through 4, although not in all of the transactions, and maybe 6, although you assume W would've produced it by now...maybe he's waiting for discovery? And they're both competent (legally speaking) and have capacity to enter these deals.
Some additional thoughts:
+ W never clarifies the total purchase price for GDC, or the Mystery deal, weird because he includes a lot of other financial details. That's instrumental to his case and it's nowhere to be found. That suggest that the deal might not have been finalized when he sent $55,000 to JT, which, yikes. Sending the money is consideration, but it doesn't necessarily form a contract because you also need acceptance. People aren't obligated to perform just because you send them money. On the flipside, if JT accepted the money, which he clearly did, he also was taking on an obligation to perform. So his suggestion that the deal couldn't be finalized without insurance and an interest rate is dubious.
+ JT only addresses GDC and ignores the Mystery and Australia deals. Looks bad. Either the facts he knows aren't helpful to him, and/or he's trying to buy time - seems likely as he's filing for continuances. Settlement might be difficult because JT appears to have sold items W really wanted, and if he wasn't having serious cash flow problems, he probably steers clear of this mess.
+ This whole situation is thoroughly pathetic. Some guy in Florida found a warehouse, purchased professional storage equipment, and planned a business around brands long out of vogue. The affidavit from his girlfriend about the griptape made my skin crawl - why drag her into this? W is clearly extremely bitter and hurt that his hero took advantage of him, but he mostly played himself. He spent $75,000+ trying to buy his way into an early aughts fantasy camp. Same for JT. Whatever you think of him now, JT was a legend who built an empire. Now he's reduced to selling his stale vision to a disinterested marketplace, living in the past, and ripping off a fanboy who, like Pete said, was one of the only people who gave a damn about him. Sad!
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JT was a legend who built an empire. Now he's reduced to selling his stale vision to a disinterested marketplace, living in the past, and ripping off a fanboy who, like Pete said, was one of the only people who gave a damn about him. Sad!
Divorces aren't cheap. Chief's trying to collect those funds.
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I wonder if JT thought that chomp on this griptape would smooth everything over and make this all go away?
Or
Chomp on that, chump!
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When Jamie first put up his Camero for sale I knew shit was going south. He loved that car. Sad to see it all come down like this. He's stilling killing it on a board tho. As for "W".... whatever man. Wanna play a game of skate for 50k?
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Divorces aren't cheap. Chief's trying to collect those funds.
You answered my question...I wondered if there was a divorce behind all this erratic behavior.
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I wonder if JT thought that chomp on this griptape would smooth everything over and make this all go away?
I can't see how it wouldn't smooth everything over.
Also who mentioned divorce? Is that a thing?
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When Jamie first put up his Camero for sale I knew shit was going south. He loved that car. Sad to see it all come down like this. He's stilling killing it on a board tho. As for "W".... whatever man. Wanna play a game of skate for 50k?
hahah what bro? thats some shit W would say...
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this got good again. if someone made a doc about 10/10 being a nazi, maybe a fan could tackle this?
-get both sides of the story from the sources
-cut to footage of the mystery decks in question after showing what W paid for them to show the absurdity of the situation
-maybe get them in front of a judge(or just someone versed in law, bonus if theyre a recognizable face in skating(could be hard to find)) at the end to solve it once and for all
-if possible get a shot of jamie saying goodbye to the camaro that he loved so dear(suppose it would have to be a recreation) in there somewhere
just brainstorming here. there are no bad ideas
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When did ISUCK! stop posting on here? I remember him on here all the time for years
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Scene from the Jamie Thomas biopic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I9MDswUeYc
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When Jamie first put up his Camero for sale I knew shit was going south. He loved that car. Sad to see it all come down like this. He's stilling killing it on a board tho. As for "W".... whatever man. Wanna play a game of skate for 50k?
people who want to play skate with strangers are the absolute worst.
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Has it already been covered ( also they people posting laws and seem like they understand lawyer world more than I do I hoping a response from one of you.) how did wendler a lawyer get himself in such a dumb situation shouldn’t he have had more knowledge to avoid this than a normal average person.
Many lawyers put themselves in "situations" that they believe or know they can win based on cases that they've already studied or litigated. Wendler may have litigated/won a similar case for a client already, and may know that there is precedence for a judgment in his favor.
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this got good again. if someone made a doc about 10/10 being a nazi, maybe a fan could tackle this?
-get both sides of the story from the sources
-cut to footage of the mystery decks in question after showing what W paid for them to show the absurdity of the situation
-maybe get them in front of a judge(or just someone versed in law, bonus if theyre a recognizable face in skating(could be hard to find)) at the end to solve it once and for all
-if possible get a shot of jamie saying goodbye to the camaro that he loved so dear(suppose it would have to be a recreation) in there somewhere
just brainstorming here. there are no bad ideas
Like Pals Questions mixed with People's Court. Plaintiff and Defendant sign contracts stating that, whatever the results, they are binding. All the many lawyers here will argue and preside over the case and then after everyone has had time to decide, there will be a poll. As much of the trial will be taped and edited down to be posted on Youtube. Somehow, Fred Gall wins the case.
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how did wendler a lawyer get himself in such a dumb situation shouldn’t he have had more knowledge to avoid this than a normal average person.
Lawyers are often dumb. He got drunk on interacting with one of his heroes, and treated a series of (deeply weird) business transactions like a friendship.
Jamie will never agree to participate in the documentary...so who's going to play him in the dramatic reenactments?
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W’s case has teeth.
It’s not only K breach, it’s fraud and tortious interference. He’s allowed to plead in the alternative and does exactly that.
This survives 12B6 and definitely opens up discovery.
JT’s move.
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Jamie will never agree to participate in the documentary...so who's going to play him in the dramatic reenactments?
Zurg and I submit for your consideration...
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Jamie will never agree to participate in the documentary...so who's going to play him in the dramatic reenactments?
Zurg and I submit for your consideration...
I bet Jamie would watch the breast exam on channel 23.
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I don't live that far from Plantation. Do you think Jamie would invite me? Like a guest plus one deal.
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what is jamie's legacy at this point?
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what is jamie's legacy at this point?
1997-2009 or thereabouts.
Dude ripped, made a fair share of really great videos, and owned numerous thriving brands.
Now...I dunno. A lawsuit and a handful of broken dreams? Pretty harsh but he should have known better and adapted with the times.
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what is jamie's legacy at this point?
1997-2009 or thereabouts.
Dude ripped, made a fair share of really great videos, and owned numerous thriving brands.
Now...I dunno. A lawsuit and a handful of broken dreams? Pretty harsh but he should have known better and adapted with the times.
Or, even better, just ended his career after the impossible 50-50.
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what is jamie's legacy at this point?
1997-2009 or thereabouts.
Dude ripped, made a fair share of really great videos, and owned numerous thriving brands.
Now...I dunno. A lawsuit and a handful of broken dreams? Pretty harsh but he should have known better and adapted with the times.
Not a bad hill to die on
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I'll be honest, this entire thread hurt to read. I was a huge Jamie Thomas fan back on the day even though my friends always have me shit for it. I rode blanks or discount decks to save money but made sure I bought a Zero and Mystery board when I could afford it. I even made it a point to buy a pair of Fallen shoes when I could get my hands on them.
On a whim I listened to his interview on The Nine Club and while it was great to sit in the nostalgia, the reality of Zero, Fallen, Mystery and Blackbox distribution in 2019 is a tough pill to swallow. I think he just kept pumping money into businesses that weren't economically viable (Fallen) when the commercial landscape had pivoted away from core brands to MNCs running the shoe game.
I had some time on my hands and checked out the latest Zero video and the entire video feels like a relic lost in time. You could release that video back in the New Blood - Cold War era and you wouldn't be able to tell it was their newest video. The trick selection, music, riders and editing is so dated you can't help but look at that and think that Zero stopped being relevant in 2002 with Dying to Live which I used to watch on repeat.
Seeing this latest incident with JT doing what he can't scrape by is honestly hard to watch. You never want to see your heroes as human but going to the extent of riding a fans best intentions to the ground was not where I wanted to see The Chief end up in 2019.
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I had some time on my hands and checked out the latest Zero video and the entire video feels like a relic lost in time. You could release that video back in the New Blood - Cold War era and you wouldn't be able to tell it was their newest video. The trick selection, music, riders and editing is so dated you can't help but look at that and think that Zero stopped being relevant in 2002 with Dying to Live which I used to watch on repeat.
i assume that's exactly what they were going for, please the loyal fans.
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Mediation seems like a smart idea but it all depends on the expectations of both sides. Definitely in Jamie's best interest to not let this go forward but I doubt he has the liquidity to make Wendler whole. And he already sold a lot of the boards.
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what is jamie's legacy at this point?
1997-2009 or thereabouts.
Dude ripped, made a fair share of really great videos, and owned numerous thriving brands.
Now...I dunno. A lawsuit and a handful of broken dreams? Pretty harsh but he should have known better and adapted with the times.
This is a sadly yet fairly accurate take on the situation. So many wrong moves that he probably should have saw coming
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Thanks to all those that have summarized all this shit!
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Wonder what the settlement was
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ummm did I just read that lawyer-bro is putting his dad’s HOUSE as collateral in exchange for 140K of skate product? the fuck is going on with Florida
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i want them both to lose everything
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My take away from all that is that JT rides horses. Don't fuck with horses or boats unless you're generationally wealthy.
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My take away from all that is that JT rides horses. Don't fuck with horses or boats unless you're generationally wealthy.
Two best days in a boat owners life is when he buys the boat and when he sells it
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But he keeps his horse.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Bauwtx1DA17/?igshid=12nn0cio7awmk (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bauwtx1DA17/?igshid=12nn0cio7awmk)
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BnY12PeF-8W/?igshid=13ko49ej7nmbb (https://www.instagram.com/p/BnY12PeF-8W/?igshid=13ko49ej7nmbb)
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Jamie Thomas on a horse confirmed
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If Jamie Thomas has a midlife Cormac McCarthy phase.... I back it.
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lol that's a lot of horse photos, I like that you do your homework LPQ
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Wonder if he would have landed the leap of faith, if by horseback?
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Jamie on Mikey.
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Lamie Dumbass
Slide your Cheques under the door
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Jamie Thomas on a horse confirmed
Photoshop opportunity putting Jamie into the pic of Dylan on a horse?
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Jamie Thomas on a horse confirmed
Photoshop opportunity putting Jamie into the pic of Dylan on a horse?
or alongside the fulfill the dream crew
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Jamie Thomas on a horse confirmed
Photoshop opportunity putting Jamie into the pic of Dylan on a horse?
or alongside the fulfill the dream crew
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His Halloween Muska outfit, next to Muska, on a horse
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JT is about 20 some odd years too late for the Shorty's tour
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Just guilty of trying to fulfill the dream
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JT Stance Holmes
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Just guilty of trying to fulfill the dream
It's like he doesn't know how to go pro
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Jamie Thomas of equus?
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If Jamie Thomas has a midlife Cormac McCarthy phase.... I back it.
JT of the road, on the trail?
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I met Jamie Thomas at a restaurant once in 2014 - we’d accidentally been given his table. Apparently he was fond of the restaurant and had a specific table he liked, and the management had messed up and gotten their days wrong, (it was Tuesday and they thought he was coming on Thursday or something like that). Anyway, the manager, completely embarrassed (this is a pretty nice restaurant) comes by and says “I’m so sorry, but we’d like to move you to another table if you could be troubled, and we’ll gladly compensate you for the cost of the meal and any other meal you’d like while you’re in town.” My sister and cousin were both like “Yeah that’s cool.” and I kind of played the asshole a bit. "I’m sorry, I just don’t understand. We’ve been here for 15 minutes - we’ve just ordered. Can’t we finish our meal here?" Then out of nowhere Jamie shows up next to the manager and says “Paul, these guys can finish. We’ll be at the bar. I got some time.” And I (being a big Zero fan) said “Oh wow, uh… I had no idea. Please feel free to give them the table.” Jamie was grateful, shook my hand and said thanks, then gave me a card with his number on it and told me to give him a call later. After working up the nerve, I gave him a call that night, and to make a long story short, we had a glorious 11 month love affair, man on man, that I shall never forget. Our bodies intertwined as one, and from the beauty of Morocco, to the French Riviera, to the snorkeling in the Galopagos, Jamie Thomas and I made glorious gay love to each other on six of the seven continents.
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Did the photos from the Burman thread get archived like it was suggested? Shit was creepy it’s also odd that the 2 threads that paint zero in a kooky light get deleted. What is zero gonna do get tk to green light you?
i dont think the dude is a pedo, just a horny and creepy idiot. i dont think he deleted any of those tweets either, but im pretty sure someone did archived them.
figureitout, where you at? dont be a poosey.
I overlooked this until now. I 100% made a thread with the photos, it was deleted in less than 24 hours. Maybe it wasn't enough evidence for the mods. Still a Nonce in my eyes
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If this is in settlement, the parties have no obligation to disclose terms, which means this glorious journey ends here. But I wonder what would make Wendler give up?
Also posting to quote the magical journey below.
I met Jamie Thomas at a restaurant once in 2014 - we’d accidentally been given his table. Apparently he was fond of the restaurant and had a specific table he liked, and the management had messed up and gotten their days wrong, (it was Tuesday and they thought he was coming on Thursday or something like that). Anyway, the manager, completely embarrassed (this is a pretty nice restaurant) comes by and says “I’m so sorry, but we’d like to move you to another table if you could be troubled, and we’ll gladly compensate you for the cost of the meal and any other meal you’d like while you’re in town.” My sister and cousin were both like “Yeah that’s cool.” and I kind of played the asshole a bit. "I’m sorry, I just don’t understand. We’ve been here for 15 minutes - we’ve just ordered. Can’t we finish our meal here?" Then out of nowhere Jamie shows up next to the manager and says “Paul, these guys can finish. We’ll be at the bar. I got some time.” And I (being a big Zero fan) said “Oh wow, uh… I had no idea. Please feel free to give them the table.” Jamie was grateful, shook my hand and said thanks, then gave me a card with his number on it and told me to give him a call later. After working up the nerve, I gave him a call that night, and to make a long story short, we had a glorious 11 month love affair, man on man, that I shall never forget. Our bodies intertwined as one, and from the beauty of Morocco, to the French Riviera, to the snorkeling in the Galopagos, Jamie Thomas and I made glorious gay love to each other on six of the seven continents.
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I met Jamie Thomas at a restaurant once in 2014 - we’d accidentally been given his table. Apparently he was fond of the restaurant and had a specific table he liked, and the management had messed up and gotten their days wrong, (it was Tuesday and they thought he was coming on Thursday or something like that). Anyway, the manager, completely embarrassed (this is a pretty nice restaurant) comes by and says “I’m so sorry, but we’d like to move you to another table if you could be troubled, and we’ll gladly compensate you for the cost of the meal and any other meal you’d like while you’re in town.” My sister and cousin were both like “Yeah that’s cool.” and I kind of played the asshole a bit. "I’m sorry, I just don’t understand. We’ve been here for 15 minutes - we’ve just ordered. Can’t we finish our meal here?" Then out of nowhere Jamie shows up next to the manager and says “Paul, these guys can finish. We’ll be at the bar. I got some time.” And I (being a big Zero fan) said “Oh wow, uh… I had no idea. Please feel free to give them the table.” Jamie was grateful, shook my hand and said thanks, then gave me a card with his number on it and told me to give him a call later. After working up the nerve, I gave him a call that night, and to make a long story short, we had a glorious 11 month love affair, man on man, that I shall never forget. Our bodies intertwined as one, and from the beauty of Morocco, to the French Riviera, to the snorkeling in the Galopagos, Jamie Thomas and I made glorious gay love to each other on six of the seven continents.
damn, i had Chief all wrong. he is a nice man after all.
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whatever happend with thois? they settle out of court im guessing? Zero and Mystery both still around a year later.
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Just saw Mikey Ray quit Zero, would be funny to hear his stories of his time on Zero.
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Whatever that last zero video was will go down as the best premier of all time
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Thanks for the reminder.....ISUCK weighs in on slap approx 1:00
https://youtu.be/2q7L7q_0oPM
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I didnt see it? 1 minute or 1 hr?
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I didn't see it at either mark. I like JT and I wish him all the best. Dude needs to bail on Straye though.
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I didnt see it? 1 minute or 1 hr?
It's at 31:53
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That's so crazy that he used to baptize his kids in Rice Krispy milk. I guess I'd expect nothing less from a Walla Walla county fair hotdog bonanza three-time champion.
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I met Jamie Thomas at a restaurant once in 2014 - we’d accidentally been given his table. Apparently he was fond of the restaurant and had a specific table he liked, and the management had messed up and gotten their days wrong, (it was Tuesday and they thought he was coming on Thursday or something like that). Anyway, the manager, completely embarrassed (this is a pretty nice restaurant) comes by and says “I’m so sorry, but we’d like to move you to another table if you could be troubled, and we’ll gladly compensate you for the cost of the meal and any other meal you’d like while you’re in town.” My sister and cousin were both like “Yeah that’s cool.” and I kind of played the asshole a bit. "I’m sorry, I just don’t understand. We’ve been here for 15 minutes - we’ve just ordered. Can’t we finish our meal here?" Then out of nowhere Jamie shows up next to the manager and says “Paul, these guys can finish. We’ll be at the bar. I got some time.” And I (being a big Zero fan) said “Oh wow, uh… I had no idea. Please feel free to give them the table.” Jamie was grateful, shook my hand and said thanks, then gave me a card with his number on it and told me to give him a call later. After working up the nerve, I gave him a call that night, and to make a long story short, we had a glorious 11 month love affair, man on man, that I shall never forget. Our bodies intertwined as one, and from the beauty of Morocco, to the French Riviera, to the snorkeling in the Galopagos, Jamie Thomas and I made glorious gay love to each other on six of the seven continents.
So hot.
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I met Jamie Thomas at a restaurant once in 2014 - we’d accidentally been given his table. Apparently he was fond of the restaurant and had a specific table he liked, and the management had messed up and gotten their days wrong, (it was Tuesday and they thought he was coming on Thursday or something like that). Anyway, the manager, completely embarrassed (this is a pretty nice restaurant) comes by and says “I’m so sorry, but we’d like to move you to another table if you could be troubled, and we’ll gladly compensate you for the cost of the meal and any other meal you’d like while you’re in town.” My sister and cousin were both like “Yeah that’s cool.” and I kind of played the asshole a bit. "I’m sorry, I just don’t understand. We’ve been here for 15 minutes - we’ve just ordered. Can’t we finish our meal here?" Then out of nowhere Jamie shows up next to the manager and says “Paul, these guys can finish. We’ll be at the bar. I got some time.” And I (being a big Zero fan) said “Oh wow, uh… I had no idea. Please feel free to give them the table.” Jamie was grateful, shook my hand and said thanks, then gave me a card with his number on it and told me to give him a call later. After working up the nerve, I gave him a call that night, and to make a long story short, we had a glorious 11 month love affair, man on man, that I shall never forget. Our bodies intertwined as one, and from the beauty of Morocco, to the French Riviera, to the snorkeling in the Galopagos, Jamie Thomas and I made glorious gay love to each other on six of the seven continents.
That is beautiful.