Spitfire formula four

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Has anyone seen some 101 52mm conical fulls recently? Can’t find a pair to save my life

52's
https://www.furnaceskate.com/collections/wheels/products/formula-four-101d-conical-full
https://35thnorth.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-formula-four-wheels-conical-full-101

[Juanjo789]

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This isn't a Spitfire specific question but I only ride Spitfire, so I'm dropping it here. Do conical, radial and the other shapes with a wide riding service cone at the same rate/manner as the classic shapes? Has anyone ever paid attention to this? Peace.

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they don't necessarily cone faster but personally I have found it more noticeable on conicals since they have that more squared shape. All you need to do is rotate them like once per month, or I do whenever I switch decks.

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Thanks, that's what I figured. I hate taking the wheels off the axles because I'm worried I'll never get the nut to thread correctly again. But that's a topic for another thread.

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Just get the Indy skate tool with the rethreader thingy (or any other brand that has that)

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Juanjo789 got your cure

sup

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So what’s the deal with the lack of formula fours literally anywhere? I don’t change wheels very often but I’m in desperate need of a new set and Skate Warehouse doesn’t even have them as a list of brands in the wheels section.

[YungJugg]

So what’s the deal with the lack of formula fours literally anywhere? I don’t change wheels very often but I’m in desperate need of a new set and Skate Warehouse doesn’t even have them as a list of brands in the wheels section.

Look harder, plenty shops still have em, your options will probably just be more limited.

First three sites I went to had em stocked...peep Parade.

edit: I’m assuming you are US, apologies if you’re overseas but it may be tougher to find in that case.

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So what’s the deal with the lack of formula fours literally anywhere? I don’t change wheels very often but I’m in desperate need of a new set and Skate Warehouse doesn’t even have them as a list of brands in the wheels section.

Try parade. That links you to actual skate shops.

[Noble Experiment]

Was at my local shop trying to get F4s and they said something about how they received an e-mail from deluxe the other day about how they’re shutting down for two weeks or something. They were wiped clean of all deluxe related stuff. Had to settle for STF V3’s instead.

[jay_nev]

My 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck? 
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find

[Onevia]

My 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck? 
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find

Ya, my 54mm 99a conical fulls ended being the same on my streets (no trouble with the bearings, though). My older 51mm 99a Radial Slims actually felt a little bit better over the same terrain, which was surprising.

[YungJugg]

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My 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck? 
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find

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Ya, my 54mm 99a conical fulls ended being the same on my streets (no trouble with the bearings, though). My older 51mm 99a Radial Slims actually felt a little bit better over the same terrain, which was surprising.

On day 1 my 99a (conical full) were louder than my past 101s (tablets), feel rougher on the feet, and slide just as easy. The 101s were feeling good at my usual spots (mix of crust and smooth) but when riding round the city they’d ice so bad on quick turns. I can’t judge em off the first session but like you, I hope these break in well because they seem the opposite of what I was looking for.

[jay_nev]

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My 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck? 
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find

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Ya, my 54mm 99a conical fulls ended being the same on my streets (no trouble with the bearings, though). My older 51mm 99a Radial Slims actually felt a little bit better over the same terrain, which was surprising.

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On day 1 my 99a (conical full) were louder than my past 101s (tablets), feel rougher on the feet, and slide just as easy. The 101s were feeling good at my usual spots (mix of crust and smooth) but when riding round the city they’d ice so bad on quick turns. I can’t judge em off the first session but like you, I hope these break in well because they seem the opposite of what I was looking for.

ok good to hear it’s not just me.. interested to hear more detail on that. Did the 99-101 formulas change at all?

might just try OG classics or SPF mike Anderson’s

[Onevia]

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My 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck? 
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find

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Ya, my 54mm 99a conical fulls ended being the same on my streets (no trouble with the bearings, though). My older 51mm 99a Radial Slims actually felt a little bit better over the same terrain, which was surprising.

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On day 1 my 99a (conical full) were louder than my past 101s (tablets), feel rougher on the feet, and slide just as easy. The 101s were feeling good at my usual spots (mix of crust and smooth) but when riding round the city they’d ice so bad on quick turns. I can’t judge em off the first session but like you, I hope these break in well because they seem the opposite of what I was looking for.

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ok good to hear it’s not just me.. interested to hear more detail on that. Did the 99-101 formulas change at all?

might just try OG classics or SPF mike Anderson’s

I'd be interested in how either of those compare if you end up getting them.

I bought some 54mm 99a Spitfire Striker wheels (OG formula?) about 5yrs ago and they are the harshest wheels I've ever ridden on street with (one wheel also has a hard time installing bearings). It's put me off from getting OG classics even though I'd like to buy a set.

[RichardBarkley]

What's the closest thing to a formula 4 clone? If they can't be gotten

[RossDailey]

Well, I just panic bought some F4 101 Tablets

Hoping that I like them

[Fat Tire]

What's the closest thing to a formula 4 clone? If they can't be gotten

I'd say loophole

[YutoBufoni]

THE BEST. NO FLAT SPOTS.

[Noble Experiment]

What's the closest thing to a formula 4 clone? If they can't be gotten

As much as a lot of people will disagree on this, I’d say STFs (the 83b ones) are pretty damn similar in feel and slideability to the 101a F4s. Definitely not the 99a F4s tho.

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

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What's the closest thing to a formula 4 clone? If they can't be gotten

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I'd say loophole

[FrozenIndustries]

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What's the closest thing to a formula 4 clone? If they can't be gotten

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I'd say loophole

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Loopholes for sure. Reminds me of 99 F4.

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

Yes, and now they have 54mm connicals!

[fulfillthedream]

mann i cant imagine ever skating anything other then f4's now... been riding them since the debut in 2013.. was riding the spitfire f1 101's for a few years before that

[JB77]

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My 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck? 
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find

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Ya, my 54mm 99a conical fulls ended being the same on my streets (no trouble with the bearings, though). My older 51mm 99a Radial Slims actually felt a little bit better over the same terrain, which was surprising.

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On day 1 my 99a (conical full) were louder than my past 101s (tablets), feel rougher on the feet, and slide just as easy. The 101s were feeling good at my usual spots (mix of crust and smooth) but when riding round the city they’d ice so bad on quick turns. I can’t judge em off the first session but like you, I hope these break in well because they seem the opposite of what I was looking for.

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ok good to hear it’s not just me.. interested to hear more detail on that. Did the 99-101 formulas change at all?

might just try OG classics or SPF mike Anderson’s

Okay, I thought I was crazy.  I feel the same way.  I have a pretty recent set of 52mm/99a F4 Conical Fulls and they feel unreasonably hard to me.  Really rough, jarring ride in the streets.  I want to like them and I keep waiting for them to break in, but they're just not any fun to ride.  I wish OJ would bring back the 92a Ditch Witch wheels.  Anybody else making a 92a modern shape wheel these days?

[jay_nev]

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My 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck? 
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find

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Ya, my 54mm 99a conical fulls ended being the same on my streets (no trouble with the bearings, though). My older 51mm 99a Radial Slims actually felt a little bit better over the same terrain, which was surprising.

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On day 1 my 99a (conical full) were louder than my past 101s (tablets), feel rougher on the feet, and slide just as easy. The 101s were feeling good at my usual spots (mix of crust and smooth) but when riding round the city they’d ice so bad on quick turns. I can’t judge em off the first session but like you, I hope these break in well because they seem the opposite of what I was looking for.

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ok good to hear it’s not just me.. interested to hear more detail on that. Did the 99-101 formulas change at all?

might just try OG classics or SPF mike Anderson’s

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Okay, I thought I was crazy.  I feel the same way.  I have a pretty recent set of 52mm/99a F4 Conical Fulls and they feel unreasonably hard to me.  Really rough, jarring ride in the streets.  I want to like them and I keep waiting for them to break in, but they're just not any fun to ride.  I wish OJ would bring back the 92a Ditch Witch wheels.  Anybody else making a 92a modern shape wheel these days?

mini logo hybrid 90a? come in a-cut or classic shape

[JB77]

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My 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck? 
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find

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Ya, my 54mm 99a conical fulls ended being the same on my streets (no trouble with the bearings, though). My older 51mm 99a Radial Slims actually felt a little bit better over the same terrain, which was surprising.

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On day 1 my 99a (conical full) were louder than my past 101s (tablets), feel rougher on the feet, and slide just as easy. The 101s were feeling good at my usual spots (mix of crust and smooth) but when riding round the city they’d ice so bad on quick turns. I can’t judge em off the first session but like you, I hope these break in well because they seem the opposite of what I was looking for.

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ok good to hear it’s not just me.. interested to hear more detail on that. Did the 99-101 formulas change at all?

might just try OG classics or SPF mike Anderson’s

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Okay, I thought I was crazy.  I feel the same way.  I have a pretty recent set of 52mm/99a F4 Conical Fulls and they feel unreasonably hard to me.  Really rough, jarring ride in the streets.  I want to like them and I keep waiting for them to break in, but they're just not any fun to ride.  I wish OJ would bring back the 92a Ditch Witch wheels.  Anybody else making a 92a modern shape wheel these days?

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mini logo hybrid 90a? come in a-cut or classic shape

Think I’ll check those out, thank you!

[ultrabra]

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My 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck? 
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find

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Ya, my 54mm 99a conical fulls ended being the same on my streets (no trouble with the bearings, though). My older 51mm 99a Radial Slims actually felt a little bit better over the same terrain, which was surprising.

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On day 1 my 99a (conical full) were louder than my past 101s (tablets), feel rougher on the feet, and slide just as easy. The 101s were feeling good at my usual spots (mix of crust and smooth) but when riding round the city they’d ice so bad on quick turns. I can’t judge em off the first session but like you, I hope these break in well because they seem the opposite of what I was looking for.

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ok good to hear it’s not just me.. interested to hear more detail on that. Did the 99-101 formulas change at all?

might just try OG classics or SPF mike Anderson’s

[close]

Okay, I thought I was crazy.  I feel the same way.  I have a pretty recent set of 52mm/99a F4 Conical Fulls and they feel unreasonably hard to me.  Really rough, jarring ride in the streets.  I want to like them and I keep waiting for them to break in, but they're just not any fun to ride.  I wish OJ would bring back the 92a Ditch Witch wheels.  Anybody else making a 92a modern shape wheel these days?

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mini logo hybrid 90a? come in a-cut or classic shape

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Think I’ll check those out, thank you!

Mini logo 90a definetly feel softer than 90a. I have keyframes and they feel the same.
What about  ML 95a?

[ultrabra]

Oh and. The ML don't have a core like keyframes do. So it could be that what makes them feel softer.

[Live Fast Johnny]

VU just got a massive shipment in.  No connection to the shop but have dealt with them before and they are great people.

[jay_nev]

VU just got a massive shipment in.  No connection to the shop but have dealt with them before and they are great people.

ha, Solstice asking how. Someone replied saying Mexico is back online? As in the factory back to producing? 

[fulfillthedream]

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VU just got a massive shipment in.  No connection to the shop but have dealt with them before and they are great people.

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ha, Solstice asking how. Someone replied saying Mexico is back online? As in the factory back to producing?

damn thats awesome they're sticking to just selling to local customers! I havent been to Baltimore in years but when Im back state side and im back east i wanna get a shirt or hat

[johnes]

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My 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck? 
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find

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Ya, my 54mm 99a conical fulls ended being the same on my streets (no trouble with the bearings, though). My older 51mm 99a Radial Slims actually felt a little bit better over the same terrain, which was surprising.

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On day 1 my 99a (conical full) were louder than my past 101s (tablets), feel rougher on the feet, and slide just as easy. The 101s were feeling good at my usual spots (mix of crust and smooth) but when riding round the city they’d ice so bad on quick turns. I can’t judge em off the first session but like you, I hope these break in well because they seem the opposite of what I was looking for.

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ok good to hear it’s not just me.. interested to hear more detail on that. Did the 99-101 formulas change at all?

might just try OG classics or SPF mike Anderson’s

[close]

Okay, I thought I was crazy.  I feel the same way.  I have a pretty recent set of 52mm/99a F4 Conical Fulls and they feel unreasonably hard to me.  Really rough, jarring ride in the streets.  I want to like them and I keep waiting for them to break in, but they're just not any fun to ride.  I wish OJ would bring back the 92a Ditch Witch wheels.  Anybody else making a 92a modern shape wheel these days?

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mini logo hybrid 90a? come in a-cut or classic shape

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Think I’ll check those out, thank you!

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Mini logo 90a definetly feel softer than 90a. I have keyframes and they feel the same.
What about  ML 95a?

The 95a’s are chill, I have a set in black, they are pretty bouncy and soft feeling but still slide when I do back 180s. I wanna get a set in white sometime instead of black. They ride over crusty ditches really well too. 

[jay_nev]

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My 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck? 
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find

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Ya, my 54mm 99a conical fulls ended being the same on my streets (no trouble with the bearings, though). My older 51mm 99a Radial Slims actually felt a little bit better over the same terrain, which was surprising.

[close]

On day 1 my 99a (conical full) were louder than my past 101s (tablets), feel rougher on the feet, and slide just as easy. The 101s were feeling good at my usual spots (mix of crust and smooth) but when riding round the city they’d ice so bad on quick turns. I can’t judge em off the first session but like you, I hope these break in well because they seem the opposite of what I was looking for.

[close]

ok good to hear it’s not just me.. interested to hear more detail on that. Did the 99-101 formulas change at all?

might just try OG classics or SPF mike Anderson’s

[close]

Okay, I thought I was crazy.  I feel the same way.  I have a pretty recent set of 52mm/99a F4 Conical Fulls and they feel unreasonably hard to me.  Really rough, jarring ride in the streets.  I want to like them and I keep waiting for them to break in, but they're just not any fun to ride.  I wish OJ would bring back the 92a Ditch Witch wheels.  Anybody else making a 92a modern shape wheel these days?

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mini logo hybrid 90a? come in a-cut or classic shape

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Think I’ll check those out, thank you!

[close]

Mini logo 90a definetly feel softer than 90a. I have keyframes and they feel the same.
What about  ML 95a?

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The 95a’s are chill, I have a set in black, they are pretty bouncy and soft feeling but still slide when I do back 180s. I wanna get a set in white sometime instead of black. They ride over crusty ditches really well too. 

What shape 95a do you have? Need to keep an eye out for the whites for cheap