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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: IpathCats on October 01, 2021, 06:34:30 AM
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I see a lot of mixed opinions on Leo Valls on here. I've always given him a pass since he looks so smooth and comfortable on his board and he gets me hyped to skate. But at the same time, I'm a pretty big hater and can totally see how people would deem him totally illegal. That being said, I would watch him over that Jeff Defartcheese guy any day. How do you feel?
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tight.
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Guess I better go watch a Leo valls part or something
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obnoxious mini powerslides grazing people almost falling off into ledge boardslides. could see why some get hyped but its not my thing. same category as glen fox
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He's a terrible dipshit.
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His more recent parts need to be curated a little better, definitely. His older parts are much better, where it’s 50/50 traditional skating and slidey shit. Back then, he would pepper that shit in and not make a meal out of it.
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Wack.
Used to be a fan in around 2010 or whenever magenta was new and still watch his part in microcosme but not a fan anymore.
Being in his mid thirties and pushing full speed thru crowds of people just to powerslide to slow down again. Heard claims he is as good as Lucas Puig but no evidence has ever been seen.
His cosplay mate is also very corny and basically the opposite of funny.
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tight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg-29Jn2RnU
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Wack.
No clue why so much hype around this guy. Looks like a skater to entertain non skaters.
Any pro/am can do all of his weird moves but well he having fun ?
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Extremely tight. Dude can do whatever he wants on a board and chooses to skate completely in his own way. It’s very funny to me how upsetting/divisive he is to people. He is clearly just a total skate rat.
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Have only seen bits and pieces in the past until I watched his microcosme part in this thread. Holy shit that sucked.
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I wouldnt say hes wack but not out of this world. he seems like a solid 6 or 7, id bang him
i thought switch mongo was a no-no these days unless you are like kevin bilyeu or some shit
weird how certain people get a pass for that
what city was that anyway?
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His more recent parts need to be curated a little better, definitely. His older parts are much better, where it’s 50/50 traditional skating and slidey shit. Back then, he would pepper that shit in and not make a meal out of it.
I agree with this assessment
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I wouldnt say hes wack but not out of this world. he seems like a solid 6 or 7, id bang him
i thought switch mongo was a no-no these days unless you are like kevin bilyeu or some shit
weird how certain people get a pass for that
what city was that anyway?
Pretty sure he's from Lyon, France if that's what you're asking.
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tight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg-29Jn2RnU
Damn, hadn't seen this part. All those fakie reverts after landing switch from the previous trick are a worse violation than any of his powerslide tom foolery.
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Tight. Fuck the same old flip in flip out. Skating isn't a sport just have fun and do what makes you happy.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CTo8AqlKOYF/?utm_medium=share_sheet
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Tight. He’s skated how he wants with individuality for a long time now, regardless of how people feel about it, and hasn’t tried to mold himself to what people want even after Magenta was no longer the flavor of week. Also no one is comparing him to Lucas just because he’s French
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Wack.
Used to be a fan in around 2010 or whenever magenta was new and still watch his part in microcosme but not a fan anymore.
Being in his mid thirties and pushing full speed thru crowds of people just to powerslide to slow down again. Heard claims he is as good as Lucas Puig but no evidence has ever been seen.
His cosplay mate is also very corny and basically the opposite of funny.
No one is as good as Lucas Puig.
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hes just really fucking french
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I like him, too many ig edit/clips though.
he seems like a solid 6 or 7, id bang him
HAHAHA, he sure looks good
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Meh, that all I have to say about this dude
Meh
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He’s tight. Some of the slides can be a little much but I think anything in moderation is fine. I always liked this bs power slide to front board he does
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWvRtgLlImU/?utm_medium=copy_link
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His more recent parts need to be curated a little better, definitely. His older parts are much better, where it’s 50/50 traditional skating and slidey shit. Back then, he would pepper that shit in and not make a meal out of it.
Well said. He's become a parody of himself at this point. Hard pass.
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"The Emperor's New Clothes" of SLAP
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No one is as good as Lucas Puig.
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His name sounds like a comic book supervillain’s true identity.
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im not a massive fan of watching his parts, but i think its sick hes doing something different and thinking outside the box. when i do watch his magenta stuff it makes me want to go push fast downtown streets at night, and any part that makes me want to skate is tight in my book
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Sizzla seh him meh. I&I nah tell lie, disya mon skate ah fast assa spring pond, buh him also gwan do laggahead trixx.
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I’m all for this kind of stuff; I back him.
Can I get @lk130’s take on this dude, though?
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He’s tight. Some of the slides can be a little much but I think anything in moderation is fine. I always liked this bs power slide to front board he does
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWvRtgLlImU/?utm_medium=copy_link
Yea that was tight, back tail after was solid too.
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Interesting to see how close the poll is.
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tight
op probably afraid of powerslides
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tight
op probably afraid of powerslides
I'm afraid of plenty of things, not powerslides though. Big stairs and transition are pretty spooky.
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tight!
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Tight. I like his parts. Even the new stuff. Powerslides are sick.
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I'll pass.
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He's either the wackest tight dude, or the tightest wack dude
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He's either the wackest tight dude, or the tightest wack dude
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80% tight
20% wack
I like that he doesn't care, but sometimes it's a bit too much reverts for me. His sw backtails are great.
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Wack.
Used to be a fan in around 2010 or whenever magenta was new and still watch his part in microcosme but not a fan anymore.
Being in his mid thirties and pushing full speed thru crowds of people just to powerslide to slow down again. Heard claims he is as good as Lucas Puig but no evidence has ever been seen.
His cosplay mate is also very corny and basically the opposite of funny.
this
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Tight. Just watch his part in Meanwhile. This video blew my mind when it came out and his skating was incredible.
https://youtu.be/X4JEkM9hfC4
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His skating in front of a VX+MK1 looks tight, but HD or iphone is wack imo.
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loved his metropolitan part.spoiler alert:no powerslide in this one
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xb2s6t
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Embarrassingly wack
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He's dope, but if I had to choose I'd rather be Puig.
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Not tight, bit of a bellend in the real
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Tight. I was also one of those people super into his skating in 2010. Still like his skating but he rarely does a perfect nollie flip going Mach 10 these days
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He's dope, but if I had to choose I'd rather be Puig.
who wouldnt want to be lucas puig would be a better poll.
handsome hairy french guy drinking cocktails in the south of france while being pro for adidas and palace and having arguably the best ledge game in the world
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Overall I’d say very tight. But it’s fun to not take that style too seriously https://vimeo.com/61060993
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Tight. I was also one of those people super into hiding skating in 2010. Still like his skating but he rarely does a perfect nollie flip going Mach 10 these days
These made a big impact on me when those magenta edits were first coming out. I love how fast he skated and the flip tricks he did in the street at night in that Panic in Gotham edit. Sw flips, nollie heels, all hauling ass at night in busy traffic set against some Big L. At the time, the slides and things came off as just having fun, but I do think he's gone way too far in that direction.
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Tight. I was also one of those people super into hiding skating in 2010. Still like his skating but he rarely does a perfect nollie flip going Mach 10 these days
These made a big impact on me when those magenta edits were first coming out. I love how fast he skated and the flip tricks he did in the street at night in that Panic in Gotham edit. Sw flips, nollie heels, all hauling ass at night in busy traffic set against some Big L. At the time, the slides and things came off as just having fun, but I do think he's gone way too far in that direction.
Sounds buck
Can you link me?
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@RichardBarkley for you!
http://youtu.be/ZeFsKRc7PXI
Be warned, there are a lot of silly slides and things but honestly, I think he pulls it off/doesn't really overdo it in this one.
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who
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tfJ0__o7qaA&t=400
My favorite part of his at 6:40. Skating to Black Moon is so spicy.
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You already know what I think…
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Crazy you can be not very good at skating and film a full part in a few days if you skate like him
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He’s wack but pretty tight
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I don't really enjoy his skating but I can respect he's doing his own thing I guess. He's neither tight nor wack. As someone else said he's just kinda meh, which is about the opposite of how he probably would like to be perceived based on all of his pointless embellishments that pad out his parts. Simply too much dancing, goofing and not enough impressive, attention earning tricks. Heck, not really any honestly (IMO).
He should spend some time diversifying his trick bag IMO, maybe skate some small gaps/rails at least so every part doesn't look/feel like he's just a flat ground skater.
This video helped me appreciate him more; trying to help legitimize and grow skateboarding in ones community can be hard, thankless work so at least you can tell his heart's in the right place. -
https://youtu.be/Uxfqak7LMFU
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Crazy you can be not very good at skating and film a full part in a few days if you skate like him
my guess is that he is going for that organic aesthetic that you used to see in old Powell vids etc, I.e. not planned out and completely spontaneous, like how you skate when you’re not being filmed. In his older parts his skating defs looks more planned/ deliberate .
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He’s great in a montage or on a Instagram clip, but I don’t need 4-5 minutes of his shit.
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Love all his stuff old or new.. Leo is great.
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Used to be a fan, but now I’m gonna have to go with wack. The Schtick wore thin. The last straw was when he started posting those videos of himself skating in costumes. Couldn’t take him seriously after that
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He posts some good clips on insta. I dig his style and trick selection. Only complaint i have is that recently his trick selection isn't varying much and he's doing the same tricks on the same benches. He needs to get his creativity going again.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-dt-wimdgE
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I voted tight. His older parts are great. I look at the whole oeuvre; you can’t write off the band just because their latest albums suck.
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He’s good. I just can’t stand that filming for more than two minutes
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who tf hates on leo valls
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imagine being the filmer after 3 failed attempts when this dude has a front 180/ back 180 planned in the middle of his line
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wack; how does one blow it so hard at skating to get kicked off adidas?
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imagine being the filmer after 3 failed attempts when this dude has a front 180/ back 180 planned in the middle of his line
Haha
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@RichardBarkley for you!
http://youtu.be/ZeFsKRc7PXI
Be warned, there are a lot of silly slides and things but honestly, I think he pulls it off/doesn't really overdo it in this one.
Beauty
Nice one
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In ways of developing new ways of expressing and conceptualizing skateboarding, he's been working on the same level as Pontus. Pontus managed to have a greater following in the direction he took, but regarding how strong Leo narrative is, he's just as strong or stronger than anybody.. (if not the case, we're very close)
He had the potential in my mind to be one of the most important conceptualizing skateboarders in resent times, had he kept on working and pushing as hard as he did around Old Woops New Groove and what else was put out around that time. It seems to me, like he slowed a bit down, and didn't quite live out that potential. But he is definitely, DEFINITELY still tight!! Straight up a personal favorite of mine..
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You gotta be French to get it.
(https://groovyhistory.com/content/56364/ed6575f0da82acab83a013be19d6f1b0.jpg)
seriously though, I've said multiple times I'm a big fan.
Carving your own way (see what I did there :P) is much more interesting than following. Also, he's 35. Not going to start jumping on Zero-style handrails now.
anyways, it's kind of a pointless debate, either you like his style or you don't....
But I'm just curious, has anybody done those powerslides to wallie fs boardslides before him? that trick is so sick, as someone already pointed out. in general the way he strings tricks together is mesmerizing to me.
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Extremely tight. Dude can do whatever he wants on a board and chooses to skate completely in his own way. It’s very funny to me how upsetting/divisive he is to people. He is clearly just a total skate rat.
also, exactly this.
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Only in small doses.
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not wack, for sure not tight
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I used to love Leo footage when he was still filming with Yoan. After that his footage got unwatchable, whoever took over filming after that butchered it. I feel like Leo is a testament to the symbiosis needed between skater and filmer.
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Leo seems like a great guy, loves skating and contributes to his local scene.
With that said, his skating got so gimmicky over the years. He just took one thing and ran with it, hasn't progressed in years.
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He's super nice, always been nice to me when I saw him at the spot. I liked his skating, sometimes the arm steeze is a bit much for me
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Used to like him a lot but I got tired of watching the same variations over and over.
In the other hand I think it's rad he made a career with such a unique style and he seems to be a fundamental piece of the French scene.
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Used to be a fan, but now I’m gonna have to go with wack. The Schtick wore thin. The last straw was when he started posting those videos of himself skating in costumes. Couldn’t take him seriously after that
the costumes is not him, it's Seb Daurel. OG French vert rider. Used to be in the Powell Europe squad back in the days....The costumes stuff is the "Seb Do show", and it's just for fun. usually pretty funny actually!
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_vB3cblg5n/
edit: let me add more Daurel stuff here, I love his riding too. Fits the Magenta vibe really well, on the tranny side of things IMO.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFeTGPWKsGs
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Tight. Could see him on LRAB.
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Tight. Could see him on LRAB.
it’s a crime he’s not already on loophole…
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Leo made me learn backside power slides and for that I am ever thankful.
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Used to be a fan, but now I’m gonna have to go with wack. The Schtick wore thin. The last straw was when he started posting those videos of himself skating in costumes. Couldn’t take him seriously after that
the costumes is not him, it's Seb Daurel. OG French vert rider. Used to be in the Powell Europe squad back in the days....The costumes stuff is the "Seb Do show", and it's just for fun. usually pretty funny actually!
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_vB3cblg5n/
Comedy should be subjective but that shit is absolutely not funny. It's three steps below clown
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It’s hard to watch a white dude do flip tricks going fast in Adidas that isn’t Busenitz. But this guy looks like he’s having fun and his tricks feel good.
He’s no where near Salba or Todd Falcon territory. Sick ssbsts and nollie flicks.
He isn’t tight or wack he’s just a dude
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In ways of developing new ways of expressing and conceptualizing skateboarding, he's been working on the same level as Pontus.
He had the potential in my mind to be one of the most important conceptualizing skateboarders in resent times
Oh my God shut the fuck up you faux intellectual dick rider
Stacy was wiggling around on the ground in like '77 this kind of skating is not progressive. It's regressive
Does france's 4 day work week also apply to pro skaters?
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In ways of developing new ways of expressing and conceptualizing skateboarding, he's been working on the same level as Pontus.
He had the potential in my mind to be one of the most important conceptualizing skateboarders in resent times
Oh my God shut the fuck up you faux intellectual dick rider
Stacy was wiggling around on the ground in like '77 this kind of skating is not progressive. It's regressive
Does france's 4 day work week also apply to pro skaters?
Dude we work 5 days a week. 35 hours. I work 40 hours a week and get fuck loads of extra time off. Like two days a month plus couple weeks at Christmas. I'm Irish not French. It's dope here.
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Why was Fred Gall not an option?
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Budget
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Tight
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Met the dude in Berlin during a DC trip event. Very humble and down to earth. Just cares about skating and it's acceptability in the public eye and equal representation therein. Nothing underlying. Most genuine, well respecting dude. Even shared his hotspot.
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Watching him skate is so rad. I feel like his clips would stoke someone up if they were playing at a skateshop. Like the fast paced cuts and skating....... he's just getting people stoked to even go push
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Couple of favorites:
https://vimeo.com/11502658
by @bataaard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS0rnPiNgQg
by Yoan Taillandier
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Hell yeah was gonna post that Frame by Frame part ^^^
Definitely my favorite full part of his along with Minuit. I forgot how much I liked that Bordeaux capsule too.
Now I’m thinking about the Marseille one and how raw that shit is. If that last line doesn’t get you stoked then I feel sorry for you.
Leo’s stuff starts around the 4:30 mark
https://vimeo.com/20867462
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I'm not reading this thread, but Leo totally rules
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He looks good on a skateboard but his skill set doesnt warrant a pro model
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It appears he is a very humble, down to earth skate rat, guilty of the high crimes of swongo and the immediate revert back to regs after doing a 180 trick. He will live on indefinitely in the minds of his 12 most loyal fans, but the majority of us will move on and forget how to fully pronounce his name soon enough.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CUpVTyeoXQq/?utm_medium=share_sheet
Our boy Leo V, he's doing fine.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CUpVTyeoXQq/?utm_medium=share_sheet
Our boy Leo V, he's doing fine.
I enjoyed that!
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tight, but only in small doses. great for instagram clips, but kinda lame if you watch an entire video part.
overall, i'm fully in favor of anyone who approaches skating from a different angle than usual, even if it isn't the coolest thing ever. makes me want to get out there and do something weird myself. it's supposed to be fun, right?
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Obviously he’s tight. Getting paid to do what he likes. Having fun, on a skateboard? Man that’s so fucking wack. And y’all are having a conversation about it? Ask yourself who’s really whack.
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Obviously he’s tight. Getting paid to do what he likes. Having fun, on a skateboard? Man that’s so fucking wack. And y’all are having a conversation about it? Ask yourself who’s really whack.
This is one of the most common SLAP takes, you see it on every thread. People try to use the fact that we're talking about things on a skate forum as some kind of evidence to support whatever their opinion is. We are all aware of the conversation we are having, thank you.
Then he combines it with the classic "iF hE'S hAViNg FuN, ThAt'S aLl tHaT mAtTeRs!" standard ass bargain bin store brand take.
We're not talking about having fun, we're talking about whether or not he's tight or wack according to a bunch of stupid metrics that skateboarders have determined are the most important. These include, but are not limited to TRICK SELECTION, STYLE, and FIT. Though you could probably add personality/social media on here for good measure. Get with the program man, no one made an account on here to ask a bunch of strangers who they thought was having the most fun on their skateboard. Yes, we know its silly, yes, we know it's petty, yes, we all took the time to create an account here to do exactly this (including yourself)
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Obviously he’s tight. Getting paid to do what he likes. Having fun, on a skateboard? Man that’s so fucking wack. And y’all are having a conversation about it? Ask yourself who’s really whack.
This is one of the most common SLAP takes, you see it on every thread. People try to use the fact that we're talking about things on a skate forum as some kind of evidence to support whatever their opinion is. We are all aware of the conversation we are having, thank you.
Then he combines it with the classic "iF hE'S hAViNg FuN, ThAt'S aLl tHaT mAtTeRs!" standard ass bargain bin store brand take.
We're not talking about having fun, we're talking about whether or not he's tight or wack according to a bunch of stupid metrics that skateboarders have determined are the most important. These include, but are not limited to TRICK SELECTION, STYLE, and FIT. Though you could probably add personality/social media on here for good measure. Get with the program man, no one made an account on here to ask a bunch of strangers who they thought was having the most fun on their skateboard. Yes, we know its silly, yes, we know it's petty, yes, we all took the time to create an account here to do exactly this (including yourself)
Thanks for taking the time to mansplain!
There are no rules to skateboarding, I could care less who thinks it’s wack to do a nose slide. Won’t stop me from doing them. But if your wearing skinny jeans with your ass out and some slip on nikes thTs is wack. But not this guy Leo he’s alright.
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Thanks for taking the time to mansplain!
There are no rules to skateboarding, I could care less who thinks it’s wack to do a nose slide. Won’t stop me from doing them. But if your wearing skinny jeans with your ass out and some slip on nikes thTs is wack. But not this guy Leo he’s alright tight.
Yea Leo is tight, thanks.
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I think the French comments are accurate. Is he tight according to the traditional American skate culture that began in California and mutated? Not necessarily. But the idea of a traditional skate culture with ideas that originate solely from young men in America has been wack for awhile now. Personally I’ve never watched any of his videos more than once, but I think he is perfect for his time and place.
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The real question is has anyone seen him do a frontside powerslide?
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the marble in France looks fun to powerslide, If I lived there I would fully take advantage as well
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Vote casted B4 anyone else opinion can change my mind 8)
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Tight
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CUpVTyeoXQq/?utm_medium=share_sheet
Our boy Leo V, he's doing fine.
This some Mike V shit right here.
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Not such a fan of the powerslides and pirouettes but I rate Leo for the impact he's had on skateboarding and helping skate communities. He also had a career doing more regular skating before Magenta so you know he's got skills.
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At our park it's usually not a good thing when someone says "poserslide" and "that was pretty Magenta man ...".
It means you slid in or out of a trick.
Valls WAS great and CAN skate, but he did so much of that powerslide stuff it became cingey quite fast.
You can do it, we get it.
No need to do it every fucking day in every fucking post ...
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I'm a simple man, I see a clip from Leo Valls and I click "skip".
The hype of Leo wouldn't be that big if it wouldn't be for the amazing filmers and editors that somehow manage to make powerslides look good.
As a comparison: both Leo and Puleo are rather low-impact skateboarders with very little (or none at all) flip tricks in their video parts, but Puleo at least has a very interesting spot eye and manages to do nice two-trick lines/combos with certain variety. If you remove Leo's powerslides from the parts, there is simply not much left.
Not considering any of the actions or impacts either gentlemen have or haven't done outside of skateboarding - my opinion above is simply regarding Leo as a skater and the footage that comes out.
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Tight. Fuck the same old flip in flip out. Skating isn't a sport just have fun and do what makes you happy.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CTo8AqlKOYF/?utm_medium=share_sheet
actually prefer this to his microcosme part
i think hes cool though
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I'm a simple man, I see a clip from Leo Valls and I click "skip".
The hype of Leo wouldn't be that big if it wouldn't be for the amazing filmers and editors that somehow manage to make powerslides look good.
As a comparison: both Leo and Puleo are rather low-impact skateboarders with very little (or none at all) flip tricks in their video parts, but Puleo at least has a very interesting spot eye and manages to do nice two-trick lines/combos with certain variety. If you remove Leo's powerslides from the parts, there is simply not much left.
Not considering any of the actions or impacts either gentlemen have or haven't done outside of skateboarding - my opinion above is simply regarding Leo as a skater and the footage that comes out.
if you remove the cellar doors....there's simply not much left in Puleo's parts
(and I like Puleo's skating! But IMO, Valls is more creative. Puleo lives in the NY area, he has a million more spots to choose from than Valls. Bordeaux is tiny compared to NY)
The one thing I do agree on is that it would be nice too see Valls skating spots outside of Bordeaux. For variety. But I think he became a father recently, so a lot of travel is probably not to be expected.
I gotta say I'm pretty baffled by the number of guys who would rather watch the same flip in flip out shit being performed ad nauseam. I mean if you don't like Valls, you must hate Gou Miyagi. Actually that could be an interesting conversation: when does the "wacky" stuff become too much? Just a matter of opinion. Miyagi's Heroin part was too much for me, for instance. Even though I liked all his previous stuff.
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Plenty of people hate on Gou on here, but like Leo I think they are only looking at them on a superficial level as opposed to contemplating the impact they’ve actually had on the “culture”
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CUpVTyeoXQq/?utm_medium=share_sheet
Our boy Leo V, he's doing fine.
This some Mike V shit right here.
you say that like it’s an insult
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I'm a simple man, I see a clip from Leo Valls and I click "skip".
The hype of Leo wouldn't be that big if it wouldn't be for the amazing filmers and editors that somehow manage to make powerslides look good.
As a comparison: both Leo and Puleo are rather low-impact skateboarders with very little (or none at all) flip tricks in their video parts, but Puleo at least has a very interesting spot eye and manages to do nice two-trick lines/combos with certain variety. If you remove Leo's powerslides from the parts, there is simply not much left.
Not considering any of the actions or impacts either gentlemen have or haven't done outside of skateboarding - my opinion above is simply regarding Leo as a skater and the footage that comes out.
if you remove the cellar doors....there's simply not much left in Puleo's parts
(and I like Puleo's skating! But IMO, Valls is more creative. Puleo lives in the NY area, he has a million more spots to choose from than Valls. Bordeaux is tiny compared to NY)
The one thing I do agree on is that it would be nice too see Valls skating spots outside of Bordeaux. For variety. But I think he became a father recently, so a lot of travel is probably not to be expected.
I gotta say I'm pretty baffled by the number of guys who would rather watch the same flip in flip out shit being performed ad nauseam. I mean if you don't like Valls, you must hate Gou Miyagi. Actually that could be an interesting conversation: when does the "wacky" stuff become too much? Just a matter of opinion. Miyagi's Heroin part was too much for me, for instance. Even though I liked all his previous stuff.
Funny mentioning these three names. years ago me and friends would have conversation about what a perfect video part should be all Leo, go and puleo all have good attributes in theory but fail in practice.
All three are good at finding something and figuring out how to skate it in an interesting way. Unfortunately later Leo started going to far down the basics path and skates in a way that might as well be on a green screen. It literally doesn't matter where he is it's just always the exact same stuff.
Puleo could drop into a hundred doors and Gou could 5050 a hundred rails but they're all unique but a switch tail on a bench is a switch tail on a bench. It's not fair it's just how it is.
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I'm a simple man, I see a clip from Leo Valls and I click "skip".
The hype of Leo wouldn't be that big if it wouldn't be for the amazing filmers and editors that somehow manage to make powerslides look good.
As a comparison: both Leo and Puleo are rather low-impact skateboarders with very little (or none at all) flip tricks in their video parts, but Puleo at least has a very interesting spot eye and manages to do nice two-trick lines/combos with certain variety. If you remove Leo's powerslides from the parts, there is simply not much left.
Not considering any of the actions or impacts either gentlemen have or haven't done outside of skateboarding - my opinion above is simply regarding Leo as a skater and the footage that comes out.
if you remove the cellar doors....there's simply not much left in Puleo's parts
(and I like Puleo's skating! But IMO, Valls is more creative. Puleo lives in the NY area, he has a million more spots to choose from than Valls. Bordeaux is tiny compared to NY)
The one thing I do agree on is that it would be nice too see Valls skating spots outside of Bordeaux. For variety. But I think he became a father recently, so a lot of travel is probably not to be expected.
I gotta say I'm pretty baffled by the number of guys who would rather watch the same flip in flip out shit being performed ad nauseam. I mean if you don't like Valls, you must hate Gou Miyagi. Actually that could be an interesting conversation: when does the "wacky" stuff become too much? Just a matter of opinion. Miyagi's Heroin part was too much for me, for instance. Even though I liked all his previous stuff.
Funny mentioning these three names. years ago me and friends would have conversation about what a perfect video part should be all Leo, go and puleo all have good attributes in theory but fail in practice.
All three are good at finding something and figuring out how to skate it in an interesting way. Unfortunately later Leo started going to far down the basics path and skates in a way that might as well be on a green screen. It literally doesn't matter where he is it's just always the exact same stuff.
Puleo could drop into a hundred doors and Gou could 5050 a hundred rails but they're all unique but a switch tail on a bench is a switch tail on a bench. It's not fair it's just how it is.
Exactly this. Puleo's bag of tricks isn't huge, but he still manages to "surprise" and raise interest whenever he drops something. With Leo, there is just nothing new anymore, at all. And Gou is just a crazy MF, one never really knows what's coming.
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I'm a simple man, I see a clip from Leo Valls and I click "skip".
The hype of Leo wouldn't be that big if it wouldn't be for the amazing filmers and editors that somehow manage to make powerslides look good.
As a comparison: both Leo and Puleo are rather low-impact skateboarders with very little (or none at all) flip tricks in their video parts, but Puleo at least has a very interesting spot eye and manages to do nice two-trick lines/combos with certain variety. If you remove Leo's powerslides from the parts, there is simply not much left.
Not considering any of the actions or impacts either gentlemen have or haven't done outside of skateboarding - my opinion above is simply regarding Leo as a skater and the footage that comes out.
if you remove the cellar doors....there's simply not much left in Puleo's parts
(and I like Puleo's skating! But IMO, Valls is more creative. Puleo lives in the NY area, he has a million more spots to choose from than Valls. Bordeaux is tiny compared to NY)
The one thing I do agree on is that it would be nice too see Valls skating spots outside of Bordeaux. For variety. But I think he became a father recently, so a lot of travel is probably not to be expected.
I gotta say I'm pretty baffled by the number of guys who would rather watch the same flip in flip out shit being performed ad nauseam. I mean if you don't like Valls, you must hate Gou Miyagi. Actually that could be an interesting conversation: when does the "wacky" stuff become too much? Just a matter of opinion. Miyagi's Heroin part was too much for me, for instance. Even though I liked all his previous stuff.
Funny mentioning these three names. years ago me and friends would have conversation about what a perfect video part should be all Leo, go and puleo all have good attributes in theory but fail in practice.
All three are good at finding something and figuring out how to skate it in an interesting way. Unfortunately later Leo started going to far down the basics path and skates in a way that might as well be on a green screen. It literally doesn't matter where he is it's just always the exact same stuff.
Puleo could drop into a hundred doors and Gou could 5050 a hundred rails but they're all unique but a switch tail on a bench is a switch tail on a bench. It's not fair it's just how it is.
Exactly this. Puleo's bag of tricks isn't huge, but he still manages to "surprise" and raise interest whenever he drops something. With Leo, there is just nothing new anymore, at all. And Gou is just a crazy MF, one never really knows what's coming.
Puleo hasn't dropped anything in years....or did I miss something?
and I also fail to see the surprise element? He's been skating the exact same way since the 90's. Might be new to you if you're young.
Valls on the other hand does do new shit on the regular, it just happens you don't like it/fail to appreciate it....
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Plenty of people hate on Gou on here, but like Leo I think they are only looking at them on a superficial level as opposed to contemplating the impact they’ve actually had on the “culture”
actually makes me wonder whether some Americans are reluctant to let people outside the US redefine skating/create their own version of it? I mean for people of my generation, it's just incredible to see skaters from Europe or Asia do their own thing. In the 80s and 90s EVERYTHING came from the US and we were always 2 years behind, as things did not travel that fast pre-internet.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CUpVTyeoXQq/?utm_medium=share_sheet
Our boy Leo V, he's doing fine.
This some Mike V shit right here.
Exactly! I got kooked since posting that comparison so apparently somebody isn't rocking with Mike V. 😂 Personally I don't mind it but a little bit goes a long way. Anything more than 30 seconds of this and I'm turning it off.
"This ain't no mortal kombat competition! You better just ollie! Just ollie homey!"- Neckface
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By "redefining" and "innovative" do you guys mean the shit Ray Barbee was doing as a teenager?
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Plenty of people hate on Gou on here, but like Leo I think they are only looking at them on a superficial level as opposed to contemplating the impact they’ve actually had on the “culture”
actually makes me wonder whether some Americans are reluctant to let people outside the US redefine skating/create their own version of it? I mean for people of my generation, it's just incredible to see skaters from Europe or Asia do their own thing. In the 80s and 90s EVERYTHING came from the US and we were always 2 years behind, as things did not travel that fast pre-internet.
yeah, and that’s exactly what Gou has said over the years in his random insta posts: he was so stuck in that margin, that definition of what “skating” should be, but he wasn’t from California and it puzzled him and forced him to reassess what he was doing, and that is what transformed into the modern day Gou. I’m not surprised he ran with his style to the umpteenth degree because Japanese people are generally really good at being obsessed with aspects of culture (like say fashion, chopper culture, noise music, carpentry … actually anything really) and pursuing them beyond the point that any regular person would.
I think Leo drew from that too and that’s what inspired him to go so deep down the power slide rabbit hole, but I also think he is taking influence from early street parts where the skating is a lot more spontaneous … remember when people would do like 3 shove its in a single line?
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By "redefining" and "innovative" do you guys mean the shit Ray Barbee was doing as a teenager?
nice attempt at sarcasm, not bad really. but Ray Barbee was a no comply master, not a powerslide wizard. Try again.
or please let me see the video where Ray Barbee does frontside blunt powerslide to backside powerslide to wallie fs rockslide.
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Not really the biggest fan of his skating but the work he's doing in Bourdeaux to improve skate facilities is definitely tight.
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Plenty of people hate on Gou on here, but like Leo I think they are only looking at them on a superficial level as opposed to contemplating the impact they’ve actually had on the “culture”
actually makes me wonder whether some Americans are reluctant to let people outside the US redefine skating/create their own version of it? I mean for people of my generation, it's just incredible to see skaters from Europe or Asia do their own thing. In the 80s and 90s EVERYTHING came from the US and we were always 2 years behind, as things did not travel that fast pre-internet.
I think Leo drew from that too and that’s what inspired him to go so deep down the power slide rabbit hole, but I also think he is taking influence from early street parts where the skating is a lot more spontaneous … remember when people would do like 3 shove its in a single line?
damn I really hope to make it to Japan at some point. but you are right, and he adresses the japanese influence in this interview:
The way you skate is quite unique, the power slides etc. It’s almost a surf style you inhabit. How did you get your inspiration?
It came gradually, whilst travelling, meeting people, growing. I feel like skateboarding was very codified, We used to only get inspiration from what the American industry brought to us. When I travel, I get inspiration from a lot of different stuff, I was fascinated by the SF scene from the 90’s, by the Japanese scene in Tokyo and Osaka. But I think you have to look further, the surf for example. You have to take pleasure in the movement, and the environment.
The rules in the skate industry needed to be broken, it tends to push to either the ultra tech or the gnarly stuff, which is more understandable to most of people. Ultimately, I think you have to skate the way you feel, naturally. It is what I’ve always enjoyed the most to do.
I never thought I could make something in skateboarding with the way I skate. I probably came at the right time.
Have you ever been told to change the way you skate ?
Yes, I won’t say any names, there are been many discussions about that, when I started to skate my own way. Some people would not understand, and probably still don’t, but I enjoy that, making people react. I think that many people were sitting on a unique style of skating. But I think we have a good dynamic nowadays, you can do anything you want. Something really cool is on. And people can promote it and show what they do via the internet, you don’t need to know the right people in the industry like it used to be 15 years ago.
the translation is kinda iffy btw....in French he says "people were stuck/asleep in one way of skating only". Mmmm makes ya wonder who were the industry heads trying to discourage him!
https://cafecremeblog.com/2017/05/11/an-interview-with-leo-valls/ (https://cafecremeblog.com/2017/05/11/an-interview-with-leo-valls/)
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By "redefining" and "innovative" do you guys mean the shit Ray Barbee was doing as a teenager?
nice attempt at sarcasm, not bad really. but Ray Barbee was a no comply master, not a powerslide wizard. Try again.
or please let me see the video where Ray Barbee does frontside blunt powerslide to backside powerslide to wallie fs rockslide.
Rockslide is not a skateboard trick unless you're skating an actual rock
and is it really a blunt if youre sliding on flatgound? Since there's no edge to blunt on, I think skateboarders call that "booger"
Also idk if u know what sarcasm is boomer
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CTwwigFFlZK/?utm_medium=copy_link
This guy knows
Edit: Valls does not deserve to be in the same conversation as Gou, Gou was 50-50ing monster rails before Leo was even sponsored. Plus Gou never changed when he blew up
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By "redefining" and "innovative" do you guys mean the shit Ray Barbee was doing as a teenager?
nice attempt at sarcasm, not bad really. but Ray Barbee was a no comply master, not a powerslide wizard. Try again.
or please let me see the video where Ray Barbee does frontside blunt powerslide to backside powerslide to wallie fs rockslide.
Rockslide is not a skateboard trick unless you're skating an actual rock
and is it really a blunt if youre sliding on flatgound? Since there's no edge to blunt on, I think skateboarders call that "booger"
Also idk if u know what sarcasm is boomer
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CTwwigFFlZK/?utm_medium=copy_link
This guy knows
Edit: Valls does not deserve to be in the same conversation as Gou, Gou was 50-50ing monster rails before Leo was even sponsored. Plus Gou never changed when he blew up
OK let me teach you something: railslides used to be called rock'n roll slides. Because they are a sliding variation of the rock 'n roll. I guess I used outdated terminology here, my bad.
Anyways you called me "boomer", so I automatically lose the argument! Any intelligent answer I give is disqualified and you win.
(see? THAT was sarcasm. now go do that homework or your parents will get mad)
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Edit: Valls does not deserve to be in the same conversation as Gou, Gou was 50-50ing monster rails before Leo was even sponsored. Plus Gou never changed when he blew up
Gou (and "Japanese skating" as a whole, whatever the fuck that means) wouldn't even be a blip on the radar if he stuck with the more traditional approach to skating and Leo wouldn't have the name he does now if he was still doing EE3 homage lines at night. When they were respectively born is irrelavant to the topic ...
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Man, this is some high quality, strictly skateboarding, nuanced banter, I really do love it. Glad to see this poll ended in favor of tight, was starting to doubt myself for a second. Leo is tight, I back him.
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By "redefining" and "innovative" do you guys mean the shit Ray Barbee was doing as a teenager?
nice attempt at sarcasm, not bad really. but Ray Barbee was a no comply master, not a powerslide wizard. Try again.
or please let me see the video where Ray Barbee does frontside blunt powerslide to backside powerslide to wallie fs rockslide.
Rockslide is not a skateboard trick unless you're skating an actual rock
and is it really a blunt if youre sliding on flatgound? Since there's no edge to blunt on, I think skateboarders call that "booger"
Also idk if u know what sarcasm is boomer
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CTwwigFFlZK/?utm_medium=copy_link
This guy knows
Edit: Valls does not deserve to be in the same conversation as Gou, Gou was 50-50ing monster rails before Leo was even sponsored. Plus Gou never changed when he blew up
OK let me teach you something: railslides used to be called rock'n roll slides. Because they are a sliding variation of the rock 'n roll. I guess I used outdated terminology here, my bad.
Anyways you called me "boomer", so I automatically lose the argument! Any intelligent answer I give is disqualified and you win.
(see? THAT was sarcasm. now go do that homework or your parents will get mad)
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Edit: Valls does not deserve to be in the same conversation as Gou, Gou was 50-50ing monster rails before Leo was even sponsored. Plus Gou never changed when he blew up
If their age is relevant it's because Gou didn't have access to a lot of western skateboard media growing up so his style is organic whereas Leo's eccentric trick selection is a reaction to what he sees on Thrasher. Gou was always the weird fabric guy, Leo turned it up when he got popular.
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By "redefining" and "innovative" do you guys mean the shit Ray Barbee was doing as a teenager?
nice attempt at sarcasm, not bad really. but Ray Barbee was a no comply master, not a powerslide wizard. Try again.
or please let me see the video where Ray Barbee does frontside blunt powerslide to backside powerslide to wallie fs rockslide.
Rockslide is not a skateboard trick unless you're skating an actual rock
and is it really a blunt if youre sliding on flatgound? Since there's no edge to blunt on, I think skateboarders call that "booger"
Also idk if u know what sarcasm is boomer
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CTwwigFFlZK/?utm_medium=copy_link
This guy knows
Edit: Valls does not deserve to be in the same conversation as Gou, Gou was 50-50ing monster rails before Leo was even sponsored. Plus Gou never changed when he blew up
OK let me teach you something: railslides used to be called rock'n roll slides. Because they are a sliding variation of the rock 'n roll. I guess I used outdated terminology here, my bad.
Anyways you called me "boomer", so I automatically lose the argument! Any intelligent answer I give is disqualified and you win.
(see? THAT was sarcasm. now go do that homework or your parents will get mad)
I litterally have "old" in my username, what do you expect?
plus goddamn it fucking grates me, that boomer trope. I am generation X, not a fucking boomer.
why do we always get lost in the conversation!?
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Edit: Valls does not deserve to be in the same conversation as Gou, Gou was 50-50ing monster rails before Leo was even sponsored. Plus Gou never changed when he blew up
If their age is relevant it's because Gou didn't have access to a lot of western skateboard media growing up so his style is organic whereas Leo's eccentric trick selection is a reaction to what he sees on Thrasher. Gou was always the weird fabric guy, Leo turned it up when he got popular.
I actually laughed out loud when you said Leo Valls does powerslides variations because of what he sees on Thrasher
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CUuV8rcMNIK/?utm_medium=copy_link
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CUuV8rcMNIK/?utm_medium=copy_link
Lol solid meme. But Leo has some serious flatground and ledge game too, and his quick feet are hard to beat.
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Lol solid meme. But Leo has some serious flatground and ledge game too, and his quick feet are hard to beat.
he does a good job of hiding it
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Lol solid meme. But Leo has some serious flatground and ledge game too, and his quick feet are hard to beat.
he does a good job of hiding it
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He’s stunningly good, 😮
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I think Leo is a great example of a very talented skater that doesn’t give a fuck what others think or if he fits into what is considered cool. Which is a good start, however, he also has a super smooth style so he is very enjoyable to watch and achieves coolness despite not seeking it out.
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Who ever was asking about his ledge skills:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CUzpbf1ogJl/?utm_medium=copy_link
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I said I think he is wack altho i still mostly like him. I used to be a bigger fan I've watched all his parts a ton and his flatground is good but there's just not the ledge skills that people are claiming. His hardest thing is a switch back tail on a shin high bench.
Noseslide reverts are grommy.
Yes I know skatings not a contest blah blah but I feel like people are just making stuf up or have very low expectations.
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Who ever was asking about his ledge skills:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CUzpbf1ogJl/?utm_medium=copy_link
... is that it?
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I’m all for this kind of stuff; I back him.
Can I get @lk130’s take on this dude, though?
In French & all I really like it, lol ;D
They have that homie filming @ Magenta
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I’m all for this kind of stuff; I back him.
Can I get @lk130’s take on this dude, though?
They have that homie filming @ Magenta
Gracias, Papi.
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Who ever was asking about his ledge skills:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CUzpbf1ogJl/?utm_medium=copy_link
That deck looks so skinny
I dig it
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Might be cool but not tight and original... most of he´s skating is just an adaptation of 2009/10 FESN videos and the osaka daggers... but in europe it was new so...
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Might be cool but not tight and original... most of he´s skating is just an adaptation of 2009/10 FESN videos and the osaka daggers... but in europe it was new so...
there was a time when I used to call him out for plagiarism on that style of skating (and before that he was a EE3 homage skater) but he’s definitely put his own unique twist on it
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Whoever is flying their own flag and doesn't bother others with their technique, has a pass in my book.
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https://www.instagram.com/leovallsconnected/p/CXy4XuuPFD3/?utm_medium=copy_link
Summed up perfectly!!!
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https://www.instagram.com/leovallsconnected/p/CXy4XuuPFD3/?utm_medium=copy_link
Summed up perfectly!!!
yes! saw that post yesterday too and I totally agree. It makes it even better that Valls is articulate enough to really lay out his point of view.
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I'll repeat myself but Léo Valls is tight, always super nice and welcoming and doing a lot for scene in Bordeaux. Is he the best pro ? probably not but who cares he has fun and is cool person.
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Anybody hating on Leo Valls is skating Primitive completes and one step away from a Jagger pro model.
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Shit looks hella fun to me. I don’t give a hoot about how difficult this dudes tricks are, or what contemporary metric his skating & style measure up against, watching his shit makes me want to go push around & enjoy fun in skating, rather than the challenge.
At my age, I can use a bit more fun & a little less challenge.
To borrow from dude’s recent IG posticles, “Skateboarding is free and beautiful.”
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This screeching powerslider is tight! Whenever I think about the early to mid 2010's indie skate video movement, he pops into my head. I do kind of remember people making fun of him a lot at the time, though. Skkrrrt skkrrt! skeet skeeet!
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Unnecessary arms
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sizzla ah joy at ah zimmi mos pals tink leo tight. him skatin nah fi mos I&I, iffa ya zimmi him clips well, ya can ah tell him haffi more power, finesse, an control dan mos anyone who eva skate. dat ah mek him rankin inna mi book, dis wha I mean
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he takes having fun way too seriously and basically defeats the purpose of putting these parts out. in the beginning i could believe it but now he's like a parody of himself.
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I've met a few noise musicians. They were really nice and fun to talk to. I could tell during their sets they were having a lot of fun making noise with a bunch of delay and fuzz pedals. I don't care for their music. This is my analogy.
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I've met a few noise musicians. They were really nice and fun to talk to. I could tell during their sets they were having a lot of fun making noise with a bunch of delay and fuzz pedals. I don't care for their music. This is my analogy.
Valid statement. Have a gnar!
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wack. Skateboarding doesn’t need a Marcel Duchamp
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wack. Skateboarding doesn’t need a Marcel Duchamp
even if they did, this wouldn’t be him
what is with the goofy art references here lately
edit: the closest thing would be like simon woodstock maybe
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He's created an official post within the government of bordeaux to consult from a skate perspective on building City plazas and have effective youth programs, etc. Show me one other pro who's used his career for the common interest in that degree. Dude's the goat and y'all just sad you're not getting any more Trevor Colden parts.
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Personally, i think it's sick that one of my skate heroes has been on page 1 of Slap for this long. Keep spreading the word :)
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I like(d) his stuff.
Now it’s too much. I think Allen said something about not making it the main dish, and I agree. It’s just too much, sprinkled in some of that stuff would be really cool, imo. Now it is, ‘it’ being the power slide to power slide to tic tac paddy wack, as someone noted previously, self parody. Less would be so much more.
Comparing this none sense to Puleo is trash.
For what it is worth, I feel similarly about Daewon’s last 15 years: too much of the one thing. And Daewon was one of my utmost favorites trilogy era.
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He's created an official post within the government of bordeaux to consult from a skate perspective on building City plazas and have effective youth programs, etc. Show me one other pro who's used his career for the common interest in that degree. Dude's the goat and y'all just sad you're not getting any more Trevor Colden parts.
don’t know who you are or why you were banned, but yeah, not many people out there doing this much for their local scenes:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CqGgI2jLuMw/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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(Tight + Wack) ÷ 2
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Wack
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80% tight
10% neutral
10% wack
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Was tight but now he’s wack
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@RichardBarkley for you!
http://youtu.be/ZeFsKRc7PXI
Be warned, there are a lot of silly slides and things but honestly, I think he pulls it off/doesn't really overdo it in this one.
Lurker Lous clips were disgusting in a bad way