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Title: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: SatanicPanic on November 29, 2022, 08:23:43 AM
I know this isn’t a real thing but which woman had the best year?
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Post by: goodatmeth on November 29, 2022, 08:31:52 AM
Rayssa Leal and Funa Nakayama would be my top contenders.
Nice topic, honestly didn't think about it
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Post by: SatanicPanic on November 29, 2022, 08:33:18 AM
Rayssa Leal and Funa Nakayama would be my top contenders.
Nice topic, honestly didn't think about it
Thanks! Yeah they both had bangers this year. I imagine Rayssa will have clips in the Monster Energy vid.

Nicole Hause had a sick year too
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Post by: fineslime on November 29, 2022, 08:34:09 AM
Definitely Nicole.
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Post by: BurgerCop on November 29, 2022, 08:35:44 AM
In my humble, unqualified opinion, Funa secured the hypothetical Women's SOTY with the (first try?) front crook on the Hollywood 16/Thrasher cover.
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Post by: Stu Pickles on November 29, 2022, 08:41:43 AM
nelly had my fav part but its gotta be rayssa with funa close behind. these girls are gonna change the game
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Post by: Mean salto on November 29, 2022, 08:44:31 AM
What categories matter most?
Lizzie had multiple parts and a shoe, ryssa and momiji crushed comps, Leticia grinded a flatbar out a plane, Nicole Hause went pro for most legit company, kama coaches all the Japanese comp rats (I think male and female) altho I don't really know what that involves to be honest, yumeka oda might just of learnt the most stuff, Nora got the shoe

Others with video parts Vitoria Mendoza, mami Tezuka, Hannah tallman, una, Breeana, Mariah duran
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: SatanicPanic on November 29, 2022, 08:48:01 AM
What categories matter most?
Lizzie had multiple parts and a shoe, ryssa and momiji crushed comps, Leticia grinded a flatbar out a plane, Nicole Hause went pro for most legit company, kama coaches all the Japanese comp rats (I think male and female) altho I don't really know what that involves to be honest, yumeka oda might just of learnt the most stuff, Nora got the shoe

Others with video parts Vitoria Mendoza, mami Tezuka, Hannah tallman, una, Breeana, Mariah duran
I would go with the usual standard- video parts and clips. Contests only count if it’s something really extraordinary.
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Post by: Mean salto on November 29, 2022, 08:52:21 AM
https://youtu.be/FgsmQR25ccU
https://youtu.be/7e8wMXRPsJM
https://youtu.be/-uSKHky4Dsg
https://youtu.be/n_7kMdZSo0g
https://youtu.be/5w-0xwtOLXk
https://youtu.be/74CdAq_eO5M
https://youtu.be/pNLA_H2a6m4
https://youtu.be/h5tJkoiG4wI
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Post by: Ourladyoftheflowers on November 29, 2022, 09:02:31 AM
Nelly, Akobi or Hannah Tallman
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Post by: kook1234 on November 29, 2022, 09:02:47 AM
its either Nora or lizzie cause idk who else had shoes.  lizzie was just a color way right?  gotta be Nora then
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Post by: modern life is war on November 29, 2022, 09:07:00 AM
Nora is like the wine aunt of skateboarding at this point lmao.

Never forget
https://www.tiktok.com/@noravexplora/video/7070677781960510762?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: theoriginalgoon on November 29, 2022, 09:08:34 AM
probably funa
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Post by: VHS ERA on November 29, 2022, 09:09:25 AM
Did Rayssa have a street part? I’m pretty sure she is technically better than everyone. I don’t care much about skate park/contest footage though. Alexis still has the best style.
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Post by: Mean salto on November 29, 2022, 09:10:54 AM
its either Nora or lizzie cause idk who else had shoes.  lizzie was just a color way right?  gotta be Nora then
Nah Lizzie's got a pro model on vans. Think ryassa had a colorway at the beginning of the year too
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: SatanicPanic on November 29, 2022, 09:22:00 AM
Did Rayssa have a street part? I’m pretty sure she is technically better than everyone. I don’t care much about skate park/contest footage though. Alexis still has the best style.
From what I can tell she’s had clips but not a full part, though maybe she will have something in this monster energy thing
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Post by: j....soy..... on November 29, 2022, 09:44:56 AM
Prolly Beatrice…..
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Post by: Terminal on November 29, 2022, 10:42:04 AM
Reese Nelson had an amazing part published on Ride. The future looks bright there.

Don't know how to embed links but I recommend all to find and watch, procrastination time well spent...
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Post by: ok boomer on November 29, 2022, 10:58:42 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/Bqh7Cs8/topanga1.gif) (https://ibb.co/xJnc75V)
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: GAY on November 29, 2022, 11:01:27 AM
Whose Vans colorway sold out? There's your answer.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: sharkin on November 29, 2022, 11:12:11 AM
Nicole Hause for me.

Her real part was sick.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: SatanicPanic on November 29, 2022, 11:17:28 AM
Reese Nelson had an amazing part published on Ride. The future looks bright there.

Don't know how to embed links but I recommend all to find and watch, procrastination time well spent...
That part was really good. Womens park skating has been getting so good already
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Mean salto on November 29, 2022, 11:19:51 AM
Reese Nelson had an amazing part published on Ride. The future looks bright there.

Don't know how to embed links but I recommend all to find and watch, procrastination time well spent...
On YouTube go share(under the video), copy link then just paste and post https://youtu.be/n8OfdWhGg3I
It's a real good sign that there's been a female video part every month or even two a month as well as other stuff in montages, interviews, full videos etc
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: versacekid420 on November 29, 2022, 11:20:29 AM
My dad texted me and said leticia is attractive so it’s gotta be her
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Post by: IpathCats on November 29, 2022, 02:30:53 PM
Man idk, Alexis just because I saw her do a perfect switch flip at the glory challenge.

Rayssa probably. I know there's a few up and coming japanese women that skate street that are ripping. Who was the Hollywood front crook chick?

Idk how I haven't heard of Haley Wilson until now, but she fucking rips. Great style.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: formula420 on November 29, 2022, 04:48:50 PM
Mariah Duran and Vitoria and my picks for female skaters this year.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: FatGuy92 on November 29, 2022, 04:57:34 PM
Funa Nakayama for sure. First try front crook on Hollywood 16 is heavy af. Mami Tezuka is second for me, really enjoy watching her skate
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: formula420 on November 29, 2022, 05:17:43 PM
Funa Nakayama for sure. First try front crook on Hollywood 16 is heavy af. Mami Tezuka is second for me, really enjoy watching her skate

Funa's front k made me like her less. This element vid was a chance for her to show she is more than just a contest skater. Getting one clip at a blown out benchmark spot gave me the same feel as watching a contest. Get that money Funa, but that approach to skating does not get me stoked.

I'm genuinely hoping she has a solo element part in the oven, but until then she is generic street league Kelvin hoffeler type
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 29, 2022, 05:24:34 PM
Nicole Hause for me.   Fs Krook is gnarly, but Nicole’s Real part had fuckin grit!
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Coastal Fever on November 29, 2022, 05:37:19 PM
Mariah Duran
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: SatanicPanic on November 29, 2022, 05:56:02 PM
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Funa Nakayama for sure. First try front crook on Hollywood 16 is heavy af. Mami Tezuka is second for me, really enjoy watching her skate
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Funa's front k made me like her less. This element vid was a chance for her to show she is more than just a contest skater. Getting one clip at a blown out benchmark spot gave me the same feel as watching a contest. Get that money Funa, but that approach to skating does not get me stoked.

I'm genuinely hoping she has a solo element part in the oven, but until then she is generic street league Kelvin hoffeler type
I don’t think that’s totally fair. She’s a teenage girl from Japan- street skating is frowned on there and when she comes here I don’t imagine she has a ton of choices where to go. Give her a couple years and she’ll probably be doing her own thing here like Yuto, Sakura or Mami.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: sharkjumper on November 29, 2022, 06:18:53 PM
https://youtu.be/6afoNWzwoCY
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Hairy Ballsagna on November 29, 2022, 06:19:14 PM
Mariah Duran put out one of the best female street parts of all time.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: formula420 on November 29, 2022, 06:37:34 PM
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Funa Nakayama for sure. First try front crook on Hollywood 16 is heavy af. Mami Tezuka is second for me, really enjoy watching her skate
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Funa's front k made me like her less. This element vid was a chance for her to show she is more than just a contest skater. Getting one clip at a blown out benchmark spot gave me the same feel as watching a contest. Get that money Funa, but that approach to skating does not get me stoked.

I'm genuinely hoping she has a solo element part in the oven, but until then she is generic street league Kelvin hoffeler type
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I don’t think that’s totally fair. She’s a teenage girl from Japan- street skating is frowned on there and when she comes here I don’t imagine she has a ton of choices where to go. Give her a couple years and she’ll probably be doing her own thing here like Yuto, Sakura or Mami.
I see your point but I stand by my post. If she doesn't have the access or freedom to street skate thats too bad for her I guess. I would love to see what she does in a couple years. I am specifically talking about soty 2022, not soty 2026 or soty potential in general.

At the end of the day, for me, skater of the year is about street skating. If you aren't getting it in the streets you aren't getting my vote. Mariah had probably the best female part of all time. That means a lot more to me than one trick.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: ziggy on November 29, 2022, 07:16:53 PM
it’s Funa for me
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Post by: SatanicPanic on November 29, 2022, 07:18:22 PM
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Funa Nakayama for sure. First try front crook on Hollywood 16 is heavy af. Mami Tezuka is second for me, really enjoy watching her skate
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Funa's front k made me like her less. This element vid was a chance for her to show she is more than just a contest skater. Getting one clip at a blown out benchmark spot gave me the same feel as watching a contest. Get that money Funa, but that approach to skating does not get me stoked.

I'm genuinely hoping she has a solo element part in the oven, but until then she is generic street league Kelvin hoffeler type
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I don’t think that’s totally fair. She’s a teenage girl from Japan- street skating is frowned on there and when she comes here I don’t imagine she has a ton of choices where to go. Give her a couple years and she’ll probably be doing her own thing here like Yuto, Sakura or Mami.
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I see your point but I stand by my post. If she doesn't have the access or freedom to street skate thats too bad for her I guess. I would love to see what she does in a couple years. I am specifically talking about soty 2022, not soty 2026 or soty potential in general.

At the end of the day, for me, skater of the year is about street skating. If you aren't getting it in the streets you aren't getting my vote. Mariah had probably the best female part of all time. That means a lot more to me than one trick.
Fair enough, Mariah’s part was sick so I’d be cool with her getting our hypothetical trophy
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: FranklinSt4Ever on November 29, 2022, 08:24:03 PM
Either Mariah Duran or Nika Washington.
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Post by: LonleySk8er15 on November 29, 2022, 08:37:56 PM
Didn’t Rayesa back lip the HW16, or was that last year? After reading about Jamie Thomas battling that trick it’s pretty rad fairy girl did it too.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Mean salto on November 29, 2022, 08:57:02 PM
Didn’t Rayesa back lip the HW16, or was that last year? After reading about Jamie Thomas battling that trick it’s pretty rad fairy girl did it too.
This year I think. Roos kicked it off with the 5050 also
https://youtu.be/PCm7s7o3xLw
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: somethingmustbreaknow on November 29, 2022, 10:29:38 PM
Funa Nakayama
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: scab on November 29, 2022, 10:53:17 PM
https://youtu.be/6afoNWzwoCY

That part is so sick. Mariah also had the bonkers 5050 on that humongous hubba in the Thrasher vacation vid in terms of stand-out tricks. She'd be my favorite, followed very closely by Nicole who also had a fantastic part, plus the rainbow rail 5050 at the Dime challenge. Vitoria also ripped hard this year, so I'm putting her on the podium as well.

Isn't it nice to agree there are numerous deserving skaters instead of completely shitting on each other if we have slightly differing opinions?
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Dr Hass on November 30, 2022, 06:16:28 AM
Whoever beat Taylor Silverman
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Post by: SatanicPanic on November 30, 2022, 07:53:40 AM
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That part is so sick. Mariah also had the bonkers 5050 on that humongous hubba in the Thrasher vacation vid in terms of stand-out tricks. She'd be my favorite, followed very closely by Nicole who also had a fantastic part, plus the rainbow rail 5050 at the Dime challenge. Vitoria also ripped hard this year, so I'm putting her on the podium as well.

Isn't it nice to agree there are numerous deserving skaters instead of completely shitting on each other if we have slightly differing opinions?
You’re right that is nice
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Post by: sharkjumper on November 30, 2022, 09:50:44 AM
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That part is so sick. Mariah also had the bonkers 5050 on that humongous hubba in the Thrasher vacation vid in terms of stand-out tricks. She'd be my favorite, followed very closely by Nicole who also had a fantastic part, plus the rainbow rail 5050 at the Dime challenge. Vitoria also ripped hard this year, so I'm putting her on the podium as well.

Isn't it nice to agree there are numerous deserving skaters instead of completely shitting on each other if we have slightly differing opinions?

This is a much more fun discussion than the big soty discussion.

The new vent city has some good talk about how soty can be bad for the fun of skating. Lots of good points.
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Post by: Mean salto on November 30, 2022, 09:58:08 AM
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That part is so sick. Mariah also had the bonkers 5050 on that humongous hubba in the Thrasher vacation vid in terms of stand-out tricks. She'd be my favorite, followed very closely by Nicole who also had a fantastic part, plus the rainbow rail 5050 at the Dime challenge. Vitoria also ripped hard this year, so I'm putting her on the podium as well.

Isn't it nice to agree there are numerous deserving skaters instead of completely shitting on each other if we have slightly differing opinions?
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This is a much more fun discussion than the big soty discussion.

The new vent city has some good talk about how soty can be bad for the fun of skating. Lots of good points.
My problem because I'm not listening to vent city but I don't see how sort could possibly be bad for the fun of skating. Kicked a ball around with my nephew today and it was pretty fun and we didn't even think about who was gonna win the world cup.
Soty is just an acknowledgment of who thrasher thinks was the top skater. Shouldn't affect anyone but the top 0.1% of skateboarders ability to have fun.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: rawbertson. on November 30, 2022, 10:00:45 AM
i hope Fabiana Delfino wins soty some day, she rules <3
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Post by: Fartknocker415 on November 30, 2022, 10:01:52 AM
Domond
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Post by: scab on November 30, 2022, 10:14:45 AM
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That part is so sick. Mariah also had the bonkers 5050 on that humongous hubba in the Thrasher vacation vid in terms of stand-out tricks. She'd be my favorite, followed very closely by Nicole who also had a fantastic part, plus the rainbow rail 5050 at the Dime challenge. Vitoria also ripped hard this year, so I'm putting her on the podium as well.

Isn't it nice to agree there are numerous deserving skaters instead of completely shitting on each other if we have slightly differing opinions?
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This is a much more fun discussion than the big soty discussion.

The new vent city has some good talk about how soty can be bad for the fun of skating. Lots of good points.

Yes! I just listened to that episode and thought to myself how on point they are. Here's the link with a timestamp if anyone else is interested:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/25QWESuEF74VW4JqhzUgdf?si=w0LeM8a4QP6tj3T1VXNbGg&utm_source=copy-link&t=2925

Coming back to the topic at hand, I'm really interested to see what kind of footage the younger skaters will come up with. I'm hoping Funa's cover signals the transition from almost exclusively contest-oriented skating to more street skating. These girls definitely have the skills and I can't wait to see them rip out there.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Terminal on November 30, 2022, 10:15:25 AM
Domond
Serious or troll? At a Spanish skatepark I had a roll recently with some random Swedish woman that was orders of magnitude better than Dumond. Don't think she was even sponsored, just a full skate rat. Really memorable session.
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Post by: Fartknocker415 on November 30, 2022, 10:25:59 AM
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Domond
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Serious or troll? At a Spanish skatepark I had a roll recently with some random Swedish woman that was orders of magnitude better than Dumond. Don't think she was even sponsored, just a full skate rat. Really memorable session.

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Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: HiResDes on November 30, 2022, 10:36:17 AM
Nicole Hause for me.   Fs Krook is gnarly, but Nicole’s Real part had fuckin grit!
Spot on
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Post by: Mean salto on November 30, 2022, 10:37:00 AM
She must of seen this thread got made
https://youtu.be/B6y5MyWbgbk
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Post by: SatanicPanic on November 30, 2022, 10:46:47 AM
She must of seen this thread got made
https://youtu.be/B6y5MyWbgbk
Oh shit, this might seal the deal
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Post by: GrayCellGreen on November 30, 2022, 11:05:46 AM
She must of seen this thread got made
https://youtu.be/B6y5MyWbgbk

Great part. It looks like she is really finding her rhythm. This sealed it for me. Extra points for using a Kali Uchis song
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Post by: tedkootz on November 30, 2022, 11:35:58 AM
nelly the steeziest second by lizzie
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Post by: sharkjumper on November 30, 2022, 12:38:42 PM
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That part is so sick. Mariah also had the bonkers 5050 on that humongous hubba in the Thrasher vacation vid in terms of stand-out tricks. She'd be my favorite, followed very closely by Nicole who also had a fantastic part, plus the rainbow rail 5050 at the Dime challenge. Vitoria also ripped hard this year, so I'm putting her on the podium as well.

Isn't it nice to agree there are numerous deserving skaters instead of completely shitting on each other if we have slightly differing opinions?
[close]

This is a much more fun discussion than the big soty discussion.

The new vent city has some good talk about how soty can be bad for the fun of skating. Lots of good points.
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My problem because I'm not listening to vent city but I don't see how sort could possibly be bad for the fun of skating. Kicked a ball around with my nephew today and it was pretty fun and we didn't even think about who was gonna win the world cup.
Soty is just an acknowledgment of who thrasher thinks was the top skater. Shouldn't affect anyone but the top 0.1% of skateboarders ability to have fun.

Poorly worded on my part?
Skating is fun regardless of soty, slap, thrasher, vent city, etc.
the discussion on the podcast is about how the soty push has changed skate media. And how pronouncing someone “the best” or soty turns skateboarding into a competition that isn’t always needed. I got kinda heated about soty in another thread and after a day or so I’m thinking, why did I care enough to post about it? Ultimately doesn’t affect me one bit. I’ll keep skating with my friends and trying my favorite tricks.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: caked on November 30, 2022, 01:01:19 PM
great topic. I would personally love to see an official non-male SOTY category.

Very hard to choose but I think I have to go with Nicole or Mariah! Epic skating and parts dropped by both this year.
This Thunder vid goes hard holy shit!!
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Mandatory Reload on November 30, 2022, 01:59:56 PM
Unless someone else drops a part before the end of the year, I think it would have to go to Mariah at this point. 2 really sick parts, gnarly footy in the Thrasher Vacation vid, coverage in the mag, etc. An argument could also be made for Nicole for sure, her part was crazy plus Dime Glory Challenge stuff. Lizzie's had several parts this year too plus a shoe but it's been a long time since Thrasher gave SOTY to a strictly transition skater.

Other notable mentions that have had dope street footage this year: Alexis's Alltimers stuff, Vitoria Mendoza's "For Us All" and Element video footy, Nelly Morville in Limosine's Paymaster, and then Nora, Maite, and Sam Navarez have had cool stuff in some Adidas edits (plus Nora got a shoe)

Funa and Rayssa both had bangers down Hollywood High but otherwise have essentially released no street footage and I'm applying the same standards here that we do to the traditional SOTY contest so I don't think either of them really deserve it unless they drop something else before the end of the year. Really looking forward to seeing more street footage from them.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Maurice46 on November 30, 2022, 02:03:55 PM
Hayley Wilson IMO. I get hyped every time I see any clips of her. Great power, style and trick selection. She is so dope. Also, she won the Vans Showdown.
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Post by: Mean salto on November 30, 2022, 02:09:36 PM
Unless someone else drops a part before the end of the year, I think it would have to go to Mariah at this point. 2 really sick parts, gnarly footy in the Thrasher Vacation vid, coverage in the mag, etc. An argument could also be made for Nicole for sure, her part was crazy plus Dime Glory Challenge stuff. Lizzie's had several parts this year too plus a shoe but it's been a long time since Thrasher gave SOTY to a strictly transition skater.

Other notable mentions that have had dope street footage this year: Alexis's Alltimers stuff, Vitoria Mendoza's "For Us All" and Element video footy, Nelly Morville in Limosine's Paymaster, and then Nora, Maite, and Sam Navarez have had cool stuff in some Adidas edits (plus Nora got a shoe)

Funa and Rayssa both had bangers down Hollywood High but otherwise have essentially released no street footage and I'm applying the same standards here that we do to the traditional SOTY contest so I don't think either of them really deserve it unless they drop something else before the end of the year. Really looking forward to seeing more street footage from them.
Well summed up but this isn't about thrasher this is slap soty so Lizzies in the running. Do we also take into account she's coming back from a broken pelvis or did that happen too long ago?


Keep remembering more stuff but there's way too much stuff to post but I think samarria also had some clips, Andrea benetez (sorry if I spaced that name haven't slept ina couple days) had a part and was in that enjoi tour, sky brown had a part, Monica Torres I think had a part for/and some pro Volcom pants
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Mandatory Reload on November 30, 2022, 03:46:37 PM
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Unless someone else drops a part before the end of the year, I think it would have to go to Mariah at this point. 2 really sick parts, gnarly footy in the Thrasher Vacation vid, coverage in the mag, etc. An argument could also be made for Nicole for sure, her part was crazy plus Dime Glory Challenge stuff. Lizzie's had several parts this year too plus a shoe but it's been a long time since Thrasher gave SOTY to a strictly transition skater.

Other notable mentions that have had dope street footage this year: Alexis's Alltimers stuff + Dime Glory win, Vitoria Mendoza's "For Us All" and Element video footy, Nelly Morville in Limosine's Paymaster, and then Nora, Maite, and Sam Navarez have had cool stuff in some Adidas edits (plus Nora got a shoe)

Funa and Rayssa both had bangers down Hollywood High but otherwise have essentially released no street footage and I'm applying the same standards here that we do to the traditional SOTY contest so I don't think either of them really deserve it unless they drop something else before the end of the year. Really looking forward to seeing more street footage from them.
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Well summed up but this isn't about thrasher this is slap soty so Lizzies in the running. Do we also take into account she's coming back from a broken pelvis or did that happen too long ago?


Keep remembering more stuff but there's way too much stuff to post but I think samarria also had some clips, Andrea benetez (sorry if I spaced that name haven't slept ina couple days) had a part and was in that enjoi tour, sky brown had a part, Monica Torres I think had a part for/and some pro Volcom pants

Fair play on Lizzie, I personally just like Mariah and Nicole's skating more so I would give it to one of them (probably Mariah) over Lizzie but I wouldn't be mad at it.

Also forgot to mention that Una Farrar had a sick part this year as well and Poe Pinson (among many others including Marbie, Samarria, Nora, Fabiana Delfino, etc.) had some super sick clips in that PNW "A Roll of Their Own" video. Hoping for a full street part from Poe sometime soon, she's dope

No big parts from Breezy or Fabi this year as far as I remember other than a few clips sprinkled in other videos, otherwise they would normally be top contenders as well.

Pretty great year for womens skateboarding!
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: SatanicPanic on November 30, 2022, 04:11:17 PM
Poe Pinson is so good and she’s still just a teenager. She’s got a very bright future
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: YeoWhattup on November 30, 2022, 04:21:55 PM
FUNA
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: j....soy..... on November 30, 2022, 05:49:47 PM
Arin?  Dutchy?
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Mandatory Reload on November 30, 2022, 06:40:04 PM
Arin?  Dutchy?

Arin has pretty much just had IG clips and that Followed thing for Pocket Mag (to my knowledge) but Dutchy is a great callout. Between her clips in the Alltimers video, that one Boston vid (Orchard maybe? can’t remember the name) and her Skating Through Transition video for Thrasher, she had some great footage. I don’t think either had enough output to quite be top contenders but both were super fun to watch this year.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: sharkjumper on November 30, 2022, 08:26:54 PM
Poe is really good! I saw her skate a couple times in Portland this summer. Stoked for her to put out a part sometime.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on November 30, 2022, 08:42:49 PM
Arin?  Dutchy?
Came here to say these two.

Alexis is one of my absolute favorites of all time, and it’s been amazing watching The Dutchess really come into her own this year, her style is so timeless.
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Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on November 30, 2022, 09:44:04 PM
Arin’s Sci-Fi pro part is my most anticipated video at the moment.  Ryan Lay said somewhere that she’s a complete perfectionist.  I think it’s gonna be amazing.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Mandatory Reload on November 30, 2022, 10:28:05 PM
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Arin?  Dutchy?
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Came here to say these two.

Alexis is one of my absolute favorites of all time, and it’s been amazing watching The Dutchess really come into her own this year, her style is so timeless.

Alexis is the goat obviously but I feel like she’s had a relatively slow year all things considered? All I really remember seeing from her were the clips in the Alltimers video and the Dime Glory Challenge game of SKATE with Breezy. Easily coulda taken it the year of her Converse part tho
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Mean salto on November 30, 2022, 11:09:41 PM
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Unless someone else drops a part before the end of the year, I think it would have to go to Mariah at this point. 2 really sick parts, gnarly footy in the Thrasher Vacation vid, coverage in the mag, etc. An argument could also be made for Nicole for sure, her part was crazy plus Dime Glory Challenge stuff. Lizzie's had several parts this year too plus a shoe but it's been a long time since Thrasher gave SOTY to a strictly transition skater.

Other notable mentions that have had dope street footage this year: Alexis's Alltimers stuff + Dime Glory win, Vitoria Mendoza's "For Us All" and Element video footy, Nelly Morville in Limosine's Paymaster, and then Nora, Maite, and Sam Navarez have had cool stuff in some Adidas edits (plus Nora got a shoe)

Funa and Rayssa both had bangers down Hollywood High but otherwise have essentially released no street footage and I'm applying the same standards here that we do to the traditional SOTY contest so I don't think either of them really deserve it unless they drop something else before the end of the year. Really looking forward to seeing more street footage from them.
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Well summed up but this isn't about thrasher this is slap soty so Lizzies in the running. Do we also take into account she's coming back from a broken pelvis or did that happen too long ago?


Keep remembering more stuff but there's way too much stuff to post but I think samarria also had some clips, Andrea benetez (sorry if I spaced that name haven't slept ina couple days) had a part and was in that enjoi tour, sky brown had a part, Monica Torres I think had a part for/and some pro Volcom pants
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Fair play on Lizzie, I personally just like Mariah and Nicole's skating more so I would give it to one of them (probably Mariah) over Lizzie but I wouldn't be mad at it.

Also forgot to mention that Una Farrar had a sick part this year as well and Poe Pinson (among many others including Marbie, Samarria, Nora, Fabiana Delfino, etc.) had some super sick clips in that PNW "A Roll of Their Own" video. Hoping for a full street part from Poe sometime soon, she's dope

No big parts from Breezy or Fabi this year as far as I remember other than a few clips sprinkled in other videos, otherwise they would normally be top contenders as well.

Pretty great year for womens skateboarding!
I think Breeana had a spitfire part but it was kinda more just a clip/not pushing her hardest. Fabi had a part maybe just too long ago. Don't know why but in my head I decided it's everything since last Oct but I think it was just before then.
I like una but fuck I don't like that part she put out lol.
Adelaide Norris and liv Lovelace are on the come up but prob not soty. Am soty if that's a category.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: RoaryMcTwang on December 01, 2022, 12:12:09 AM
Mariah Duran
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: El Freegano on December 01, 2022, 01:34:50 AM
Mariah had solid parts this year. Her Rapa Nui video was super good, the flip into the bank straight to the channel tube was fucking insane. And now the thunder part is quite nice.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Síota on December 01, 2022, 01:54:32 AM
@SatanicPanic this should have been a poll.

Yeah my vote probably is for Mariah, Nicole a close second, gotta go back and watch all the parts again thou.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: FuzzGNU on December 01, 2022, 02:22:20 AM
Whoever beat Taylor Silverman

You're really not narrowing it down very much.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: LB on December 01, 2022, 02:40:49 AM
Raysa is great, pushes with confidence and holds herself well.  she will really grow into her style in a few years.
but my faves are Maite and Breanna
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Mean salto on December 01, 2022, 07:58:59 AM
Few more bits n bobs
https://youtu.be/IgZBT4GFFP4
https://youtu.be/XsIEJeLi-oE
https://youtu.be/QQIH2G9m58U

More just a yearly wrap up than who's soty now. I think it's mariah#1, Nicole #2 Lizzie #3 and funa trick of the year
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: dannyprovolone on December 01, 2022, 08:03:05 AM
FUNA
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Post by: caked on December 01, 2022, 08:42:52 AM
Hayley Wilson IMO. I get hyped every time I see any clips of her. Great power, style and trick selection. She is so dope. Also, she won the Vans Showdown.

big agree. Hayley is one of my absolute favorite skaters to watch. Also stoked she (honestly not sure about their pronouns) appears to be riding for Real now instead of Baker. brb bout to go watch some Hayley footage

also agree with everyone saying Arin and Dutchy - can't get enough of their skating at the moment.

Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: SatanicPanic on December 01, 2022, 01:31:05 PM
@SatanicPanic this should have been a poll.

Yeah my vote probably is for Mariah, Nicole a close second, gotta go back and watch all the parts again thou.
I know but I don’t know how to make one and I’m too lazy to figure it out. Kinda more fun if there’s not tho. Or I’m just making excuses. Who knows
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Reed Richards on December 01, 2022, 03:16:16 PM
Mariah sealed the deal with two parts, though there's a ton of quality chicks on boards this year.  Once Rayssa drops an actual video part, she'll take the crown.  She already dominated SLS all year, now it's time to take it to the streets.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: fredgallSOTY on December 01, 2022, 05:15:43 PM
vitoria
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Rocuronium on December 01, 2022, 05:31:17 PM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CknRjtaAVSm/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

How do you post a YouTube video or an instagram post?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CknRjtaAVSm/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/reel/CknRjtaAVSm/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CknRjtaAVSm/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (ftp://www.instagram.com/reel/CknRjtaAVSm/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Mean salto on December 01, 2022, 08:28:07 PM
Mariah sealed the deal with two parts, though there's a ton of quality chicks on boards this year.  Once Rayssa drops an actual video part, she'll take the crown.  She already dominated SLS all year, now it's time to take it to the streets.
https://youtu.be/_lVmlN0RrAc
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: aiden on December 02, 2022, 04:10:44 AM
we can continue the trend of being out of left field like with the ben kadow soty thread, nelly gets it this year
i dont even know if she's done anything of note this year but i fuck with her skating
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: moonordie on December 02, 2022, 07:05:14 AM
It should be Elissa everyday till the end of time.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Mandatory Reload on December 02, 2022, 09:31:32 AM
related topic: will any of those mentioned in this thread make it onto the general Thrasher SOTY contenders? i would guess Mariah, Lizzie, and Nicole have a pretty good chance of being on there

I looked into how frequently Thrasher has "considered" women for SOTY in past years (Not sure including women in the contenders qualifies as being seriously considered, but nonetheless, it's worth taking a look at)

Women SOTY Contenders by Year:

2021: Breezy, Rayssa
2020: Breezy, Alexis
2019: Nora
2018: Nora
2017:
2016:
2015:
2014:
2013:

Couldn't find the SOTY contenders prior to 2013, not sure when Thrasher actually started doing that piece of the process so maybe 2013 was the first year idk

wonder how long it will be until a woman takes the general SOTY award. could see it happening sometime in the next few years and whenever it does, there will be SO many dudes that will absolutely lose their fucking minds over it lol
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Mean salto on December 02, 2022, 10:21:30 AM
related topic: will any of those mentioned in this thread make it onto the general Thrasher SOTY contenders? i would guess Mariah, Lizzie, and Nicole have a pretty good chance of being on there

I looked into how frequently Thrasher has "considered" women for SOTY in past years (Not sure including women in the contenders qualifies as being seriously considered, but nonetheless, it's worth taking a look at)

Women SOTY Contenders by Year:

2021: Breezy, Rayssa
2020: Breezy, Alexis
2019: Nora
2018: Nora
2017:
2016:
2015:
2014:
2013:

Couldn't find the SOTY contenders prior to 2013, not sure when Thrasher actually started doing that piece of the process so maybe 2013 was the first year idk

wonder how long it will be until a woman takes the general SOTY award. could see it happening sometime in the next few years and whenever it does, there will be SO many dudes that will absolutely lose their fucking minds over it lol
There was never anyone truly worthy until somewhat recently. Not hating but when Elissa and Jamie Reyes were in their prime soty was different. Then early 00s it's still not quite there get to the 10s and were getting proper Alexis and baker, bufoni but still not there yet and mostly comp based (altho that's a different point, sure they wouldnt be so comp based if they could get money elsewhere).
I think women getting soty is on the cards but could possibly still take 10+ years. Even with how much good shit we got this year it's still like fukn ishod, Louie, tyshawn and nyjah being untouchable. I personally think they kind of need to make more out of the top ten others or whatever or make some secondary awards since all the other mags are dead
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: mj23 on December 02, 2022, 02:30:11 PM
For me personally, Fabiana Delfino, although I don’t think she put out enough footage to “really” be considered SOTY material

This highlights something interesting— I don’t think any of these women, or their sponsors, actually believe they have a shot at SOTY. Womens skating has come a long way, but it’s still heavily overshadowed by the men’s side. This is why we aren’t seeing end-of-the-year campaigns with multiple video parts from most of the top women.

I would actually like to see a separate womens SOTY, in order to accelerate the progression and the amount of eyes on their side of the sport. Give them something to really aim for, instead of just dropping a few token women into the giant nominee pile.

On another note, my pick for an up and comer to watch would be Poe Pinson. She has much better style than most of the young contest girls she skates against.

And I can’t believe so many of y’all are hyped on Rayssa. She is on an express path to becoming a boring Nyjah/Leticia style contest skater.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Mean salto on December 02, 2022, 08:22:01 PM
For me personally, Fabiana Delfino, although I don’t think she put out enough footage to “really” be considered SOTY material

This highlights something interesting— I don’t think any of these women, or their sponsors, actually believe they have a shot at SOTY. Womens skating has come a long way, but it’s still heavily overshadowed by the men’s side. This is why we aren’t seeing end-of-the-year campaigns with multiple video parts from most of the top women.

I would actually like to see a separate womens SOTY, in order to accelerate the progression and the amount of eyes on their side of the sport. Give them something to really aim for, instead of just dropping a few token women into the giant nominee pile.

On another note, my pick for an up and comer to watch would be Poe Pinson. She has much better style than most of the young contest girls she skates against.

And I can’t believe so many of y’all are hyped on Rayssa. She is on an express path to becoming a boring Nyjah/Leticia style contest skater.
Its gotta just be difference of opinion. Ive heard that poe comment a lot and I just don't see it. I'm not some Rayssa super fan but shes got "it". You just have to compare to say Pamela Rosa who's sort of the hucker of the women and she needs to come charging in like a rhino to do a lipslide and needs all this extra space but then rayssa can just step on her board and back lip the same rail casually.
Few years ago (and still recently) a lot of the women kinda struggled to just skate the parks they made not just the big scary rail but just get around the place with speed and then someone comes out half everyone else's size and does it easy.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: BallparkFrank on December 04, 2022, 09:33:11 AM
Vitoria
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: SatanicPanic on December 04, 2022, 10:50:08 AM
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For me personally, Fabiana Delfino, although I don’t think she put out enough footage to “really” be considered SOTY material

This highlights something interesting— I don’t think any of these women, or their sponsors, actually believe they have a shot at SOTY. Womens skating has come a long way, but it’s still heavily overshadowed by the men’s side. This is why we aren’t seeing end-of-the-year campaigns with multiple video parts from most of the top women.

I would actually like to see a separate womens SOTY, in order to accelerate the progression and the amount of eyes on their side of the sport. Give them something to really aim for, instead of just dropping a few token women into the giant nominee pile.

On another note, my pick for an up and comer to watch would be Poe Pinson. She has much better style than most of the young contest girls she skates against.

And I can’t believe so many of y’all are hyped on Rayssa. She is on an express path to becoming a boring Nyjah/Leticia style contest skater.
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Its gotta just be difference of opinion. Ive heard that poe comment a lot and I just don't see it. I'm not some Rayssa super fan but shes got "it". You just have to compare to say Pamela Rosa who's sort of the hucker of the women and she needs to come charging in like a rhino to do a lipslide and needs all this extra space but then rayssa can just step on her board and back lip the same rail casually.
Few years ago (and still recently) a lot of the women kinda struggled to just skate the parks they made not just the big scary rail but just get around the place with speed and then someone comes out half everyone else's size and does it easy.
Poe’s got a really deep bag of tricks and her insta always has some rad stuff. Like this: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CijELE5ICTA/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

She’s still like 17 so her style is a work in progress but that’s pretty normal for someone who isn’t a child phenom. Rayssa is obviously a generational talent but I think Poe is going to go on to do some really rad stuff.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: tadej Pog on December 04, 2022, 04:52:17 PM
Vitoria, best best style and trick selection.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Mandatory Reload on December 05, 2022, 12:50:18 PM
Thrasher gave the nod to Mariah and Vitoria in this year's contenders:
https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/skater-of-the-year-2022-contenders/
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: ralf_ on December 05, 2022, 03:01:51 PM
Thrasher gave the nod to Mariah and Vitoria in this year's contenders:
https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/skater-of-the-year-2022-contenders/

how cool would it be if jj randomly got it this year
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: CossRooper on December 05, 2022, 07:33:39 PM
for me it's Mariah!

also stoked for more Poe Pinson stuff in 2022. This year some of her clips were insane
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: IpathCats on December 06, 2022, 07:01:41 AM
I can't remember who it was, but it was in a recent piece of skate media so maybe one of you guys know what I'm talking about. I heard someone very progressive sounding say that judging/appreciating woman's skateboarding in comparison to men's was misogynistic.

In my mind, this kind of goes against ideals of equality and inclusion, but I'm definitely not the authority on social issues like this. And I don't hold the most progressive views in the world either, so i really don't know.

Do you guys think we should have a separate woman's SOTY?

If we don't, how long do you think it will take for woman's skateboarding to progress to the level of men's and we get our first woman SOTY? That progression is definitely happening, but men are still progressing too, so its hard to say.

I feel like there's a competent  argument for both sides of this, so i really just wanted to know what you guys thought. I'll probably regret this lol.

edit: added appreciating
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Mean salto on December 06, 2022, 07:38:08 AM
I can't remember who it was, but it was in a recent piece of skate media so maybe one of you guys know what I'm talking about. I heard someone very progressive sounding say that judging woman's skateboarding in comparison to men's was misogynistic.

In my mind, this kind of goes against ideals of equality and inclusion, but I'm definitely not the authority on social issues like this. And I don't hold the most progressive views in the world either, so i really don't know.

Do you guys think we should have a separate woman's SOTY?

If we don't, how long do you think it will take for woman's skateboarding to progress to the level of men's and we get our first woman SOTY? That progression is definitely happening, but men are still progressing too, so its hard to say.

I feel like there's a competent  argument for both sides of this, so i really just wanted to know what you guys thought. I'll probably regret this lol.
I can't think of the video you're thinking of or why it would necessarily be bad to judge a contest the same as for men's but I know they don't anymore.(altho they never actually did anyway) with skaters like momiji, yumeka, ryassa I can see them one day painting themselves into a corner where they've given people a bunch of decent scores then someone does something way beyond the norm and there's no space left to be scored correctly.

As far as soty and fsoty I can't really say what's better. Maybe an award by a female specific outlet would be better. I think gh asked Breeana and she said female soty would be wack as fuck but then even she doesn't speak for everybody

Lastly how long until a female wins regular soty is hard to say too because theres no real qualifications of what a soty has to be. I said this earlier but if it's just about who's the "best" it could be another ten years or more because even as females get better there's always gonna be nyjah, ishod, trouser, tyshawn, deedz and whoever else pops up who are basically untouchable

Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: IpathCats on December 06, 2022, 07:58:55 AM
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I can't remember who it was, but it was in a recent piece of skate media so maybe one of you guys know what I'm talking about. I heard someone very progressive sounding say that judging woman's skateboarding in comparison to men's was misogynistic.

In my mind, this kind of goes against ideals of equality and inclusion, but I'm definitely not the authority on social issues like this. And I don't hold the most progressive views in the world either, so i really don't know.

Do you guys think we should have a separate woman's SOTY?

If we don't, how long do you think it will take for woman's skateboarding to progress to the level of men's and we get our first woman SOTY? That progression is definitely happening, but men are still progressing too, so its hard to say.

I feel like there's a competent  argument for both sides of this, so i really just wanted to know what you guys thought. I'll probably regret this lol.
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I can't think of the video you're thinking of or why it would necessarily be bad to judge a contest the same as for men's but I know they don't anymore.(altho they never actually did anyway) with skaters like momiji, yumeka, ryassa I can see them one day painting themselves into a corner where they've given people a bunch of decent scores then someone does something way beyond the norm and there's no space left to be scored correctly.

As far as soty and fsoty I can't really say what's better. Maybe an award by a female specific outlet would be better. I think gh asked Breeana and she said female soty would be wack as fuck but then even she doesn't speak for everybody

Lastly how long until a female wins regular soty is hard to say too because theres no real qualifications of what a soty has to be. I said this earlier but if it's just about who's the "best" it could be another ten years or more because even as females get better there's always gonna be nyjah, ishod, trouser, tyshawn, deedz and whoever else pops up who are basically untouchable

sorry meant to add "appreciating" as well, because they werent just talking about contests.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: IpathCats on December 06, 2022, 08:05:20 AM
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I can't remember who it was, but it was in a recent piece of skate media so maybe one of you guys know what I'm talking about. I heard someone very progressive sounding say that judging woman's skateboarding in comparison to men's was misogynistic.

In my mind, this kind of goes against ideals of equality and inclusion, but I'm definitely not the authority on social issues like this. And I don't hold the most progressive views in the world either, so i really don't know.

Do you guys think we should have a separate woman's SOTY?

If we don't, how long do you think it will take for woman's skateboarding to progress to the level of men's and we get our first woman SOTY? That progression is definitely happening, but men are still progressing too, so its hard to say.

I feel like there's a competent  argument for both sides of this, so i really just wanted to know what you guys thought. I'll probably regret this lol.
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I can't think of the video you're thinking of or why it would necessarily be bad to judge a contest the same as for men's but I know they don't anymore.(altho they never actually did anyway) with skaters like momiji, yumeka, ryassa I can see them one day painting themselves into a corner where they've given people a bunch of decent scores then someone does something way beyond the norm and there's no space left to be scored correctly.

As far as soty and fsoty I can't really say what's better. Maybe an award by a female specific outlet would be better. I think gh asked Breeana and she said female soty would be wack as fuck but then even she doesn't speak for everybody

Lastly how long until a female wins regular soty is hard to say too because theres no real qualifications of what a soty has to be. I said this earlier but if it's just about who's the "best" it could be another ten years or more because even as females get better there's always gonna be nyjah, ishod, trouser, tyshawn, deedz and whoever else pops up who are basically untouchable

As someone who really doesn't watch a lot of woman's skateboarding, i used to think this would be the case too. But seeing the progression curve of women in the past 10 years has been pretty fucking crazy, so i really dont know if that is certain. I'd say that skateboarding takes a similar set of skills/abilities as gymnastics, which is a female dominated sport, so idk if the limitations are actually rooted somewhere in biology, or if they were just a result of the culture.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 06, 2022, 08:24:27 AM
Nicole Haus.

I went to school with a girl named Nicole Haus too. Like grade 1-7

2022 I been all about hippie jump into shit. That's like my favorite trick that I don't do anymore
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: SatanicPanic on December 06, 2022, 08:46:33 AM
I can't remember who it was, but it was in a recent piece of skate media so maybe one of you guys know what I'm talking about. I heard someone very progressive sounding say that judging/appreciating woman's skateboarding in comparison to men's was misogynistic.

In my mind, this kind of goes against ideals of equality and inclusion, but I'm definitely not the authority on social issues like this. And I don't hold the most progressive views in the world either, so i really don't know.

Do you guys think we should have a separate woman's SOTY?

If we don't, how long do you think it will take for woman's skateboarding to progress to the level of men's and we get our first woman SOTY? That progression is definitely happening, but men are still progressing too, so its hard to say.

I feel like there's a competent  argument for both sides of this, so i really just wanted to know what you guys thought. I'll probably regret this lol.

edit: added appreciating
I think contest scores will evolve the way they have for men- like there’s no way Shane O’Neill gets a 9.9 for a switch 360 double flip again.

We should find out pretty soon whether women will compete with men on pure talent- Rayssa and Sky Brown are both child phenoms and will get every advantage in growing up to be amazing skaters. But like mean salto said- it’s not really about skill. If Rayssa puts out a mind-melting part that sets the bar really high for women but isn’t as technically difficult as whoever she’s up against she may get it anyway just for the stoke it would bring.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Mean salto on December 06, 2022, 08:59:28 AM
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I can't remember who it was, but it was in a recent piece of skate media so maybe one of you guys know what I'm talking about. I heard someone very progressive sounding say that judging woman's skateboarding in comparison to men's was misogynistic.

In my mind, this kind of goes against ideals of equality and inclusion, but I'm definitely not the authority on social issues like this. And I don't hold the most progressive views in the world either, so i really don't know.

Do you guys think we should have a separate woman's SOTY?

If we don't, how long do you think it will take for woman's skateboarding to progress to the level of men's and we get our first woman SOTY? That progression is definitely happening, but men are still progressing too, so its hard to say.

I feel like there's a competent  argument for both sides of this, so i really just wanted to know what you guys thought. I'll probably regret this lol.
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I can't think of the video you're thinking of or why it would necessarily be bad to judge a contest the same as for men's but I know they don't anymore.(altho they never actually did anyway) with skaters like momiji, yumeka, ryassa I can see them one day painting themselves into a corner where they've given people a bunch of decent scores then someone does something way beyond the norm and there's no space left to be scored correctly.

As far as soty and fsoty I can't really say what's better. Maybe an award by a female specific outlet would be better. I think gh asked Breeana and she said female soty would be wack as fuck but then even she doesn't speak for everybody

Lastly how long until a female wins regular soty is hard to say too because theres no real qualifications of what a soty has to be. I said this earlier but if it's just about who's the "best" it could be another ten years or more because even as females get better there's always gonna be nyjah, ishod, trouser, tyshawn, deedz and whoever else pops up who are basically untouchable
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As someone who really doesn't watch a lot of woman's skateboarding, i used to think this would be the case too. But seeing the progression curve of women in the past 10 years has been pretty fucking crazy, so i really dont know if that is certain. I'd say that skateboarding takes a similar set of skills/abilities as gymnastics, which is a female dominated sport, so idk if the limitations are actually rooted somewhere in biology, or if they were just a result of the culture.
Yeah it's hard to explain. I meant more like each generation the gap becomes smaller between male and female. And I guess it's not fair to compare the current younger feamles to nyjah, ishod etc I'm just thinking it will be in the next three or so lots when it's properly equal. There might be some extra special female skaters in the meantime I'm thinking more in the future when they put out the list of who's up for soty it can be 50/50 consistently
 There will always be someone like oh but so and so can't do nyjahs part but I don't think that's what it will be about so much

Gymnastics can be a good or bad comparison depending on the point. The men and women don't do all the same events.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: cynical cow on December 07, 2022, 11:46:41 AM
This thread makes me tear up with joy. Females in skating has come a long way. I used to get made fun of and shit talked for being a female that skated in the early 2000s.
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: SatanicPanic on December 07, 2022, 12:11:44 PM
This thread makes me tear up with joy. Females in skating has come a long way. I used to get made fun of and shit talked for being a female that skated in the early 2000s.
That’s rad you kept at it! My wife got started a few years ago after always wanting to but not feeling like she’d be welcome. I’m so glad things are changing
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: versacekid420 on December 07, 2022, 12:36:31 PM
Allysha le
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 07, 2022, 04:31:45 PM
Was Nora's backside flip into the golden brick banks this year? That shit was beautiful. I enjoy Nora's work on social media very much too. Speak your mind always
Title: Re: Who is this year’s Women’s SOTY?
Post by: work_lurker on December 07, 2022, 05:31:00 PM
I can't remember who it was, but it was in a recent piece of skate media so maybe one of you guys know what I'm talking about. I heard someone very progressive sounding say that judging/appreciating woman's skateboarding in comparison to men's was misogynistic.

In my mind, this kind of goes against ideals of equality and inclusion, but I'm definitely not the authority on social issues like this. And I don't hold the most progressive views in the world either, so i really don't know.

Do you guys think we should have a separate woman's SOTY?

If we don't, how long do you think it will take for woman's skateboarding to progress to the level of men's and we get our first woman SOTY? That progression is definitely happening, but men are still progressing too, so its hard to say.

I feel like there's a competent  argument for both sides of this, so i really just wanted to know what you guys thought. I'll probably regret this lol.

edit: added appreciating

I think this was in the Bunt's post office from the Kevin Braun episode where someone complained about Roos Zwetloot (sorry if I butchered the spelling) getting the contents in Thrasher for her 50-50 down Hollywood 16 and comparing it to a warm-up trick for most other people who skate the spot. I mean, I get the point, but at the same time Mean and Women are different. Don't think there's a right or wrong answer, just differing opinions.