The Last Good Movie You Saw?

[Kook Me Amadeus]

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Barbie
Oppenheimer
Silence of the Lambs (first time watching finally)
The Drop (as mentioned above)

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Do you think you'd go to the cinema to see silence of the lambs these days?

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idk Jodie Foster 
I'd say it holds up good enough
Maybe?

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I think it def holds up as a good movie I watch it every year  but it's just also the movie I have in my head as the example for great movies that nobody would go to the cinema to see if it came out today. But I wouldn't mind being wrong

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I feel like it wouldn’t get made in its current form as a major studio film, maybe independently and through a smaller distributor, but more likely as a limited series.  I think its path to getting a big theatrical audience today would be to market it more as a horror film, and to downplay its procedural elements.  Sort of how Haunting in Venice is being positioned in materials as horror, without highlighting the fact it’s another Poirot film.  Look at Fincher, he’s been mostly pushed to the small screen when it comes to his crime/investigatory projects.

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Well fincher like Scorsese make very costly films that don’t necessarily make their money back but are good feathers in your cap, which is why streaming companies like them.   Fincher had 3 pilots at HBO going, but he wouldn’t come down on the cost or be flexible so they all failed and he just stopped doing Mindhunter bc he didn’t want to devote time to it anymore.   

But on SotL, it’s very hard to strip it if it’s cultural mark.   To remove it from its time would reconfigure movie history and trends.   Is Manhunter the only other instance of Hannibal Lecter then?   Does Seven get made?  True crime craze?  It’s also the last movie to win the Big Five - Director, Picture, Script, Actor, Actress, so that’s a lot of alchemy to reconfigure.    A mid00s Fincher + Amy Adams would have been a good start,

It’s not a story that necessarily needs to be a movie.   Hannibal the show showed you can mine that source material in a serialized format and it was touching on the Clarice stuff towards the end as much as they were legally allowed to show.

(The story would also be tweaked some what bc gay person being a twisted killer was barely cool in the early 90s.   Basic Instinct had protests because of it)

Your examples about Scorcese’s films underperforming and Fincher working with HBO sort of prove my point, the films don’t make money because tastes have changed and those quality experiences are found on streaming services more often than they appear in the theaters.  I’m not saying delete SOTL from history, just looking at the trends of now- and it seems we agree a story of this kind in today’s marketplace would be better served as a series.  Not necessarily a hot take, and there’s a few filmmakers who in the right circumstances could get it greenlit as a movie, but it’d be a long shot to be produced at the $19M budget it got back then ($40M today).

[Atiba Applebum]

The Verdict (1981) with Paul Newman.    I guess it’s underrated bc you don’t hear about it in convos of the great, but I know it’s taught along with the best directed films

[GS77]

The Verdict (1981) with Paul Newman.    I guess it’s underrated bc you don’t hear about it in convos of the great, but I know it’s taught along with the best directed films

Seen it. Don’t remember it, but I recall a strange helicopter scene with Jack Ward who plays the judge. Also, an alcoholic lawyer (Paul Newman).

I love Sydney Lumet movies. He may be the greatest director of the 70s and made one of my all time favorite movies…Serpico.

Network was a prediction that stands up today.

And, one day, I have to sit down and watch Prince of the City.

[BallDontLie]

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The Verdict (1981) with Paul Newman.    I guess it’s underrated bc you don’t hear about it in convos of the great, but I know it’s taught along with the best directed films

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Seen it. Don’t remember it, but I recall a strange helicopter scene with Jack Ward who plays the judge. Also, an alcoholic lawyer (Paul Newman).

I love Sydney Lumet movies. He may be the greatest director of the 70s and made one of my all time favorite movies…Serpico.

Network was a prediction that stands up today.

And, one day, I have to sit down and watch Prince of the City.

He had an insane run in the 70s…. Serpico, Dog Day Afternoon etc

Murder on the Orient Express never got around to that one, but anything Albert Finney is in I’m game for.

[Atiba Applebum]

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The Verdict (1981) with Paul Newman.    I guess it’s underrated bc you don’t hear about it in convos of the great, but I know it’s taught along with the best directed films

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Seen it. Don’t remember it, but I recall a strange helicopter scene with Jack Ward who plays the judge. Also, an alcoholic lawyer (Paul Newman).

I love Sydney Lumet movies. He may be the greatest director of the 70s and made one of my all time favorite movies…Serpico.

Network was a prediction that stands up today.

And, one day, I have to sit down and watch Prince of the City.

Jack Warden is his co-council and no helicopters - you might be thinking of And Justice For All


Someone once said Network wasn’t a good movie, but like 3-4 god level scenes that propped up the rest of a weak movie…I’ll let that be a discussion point…

…(But I will say that I think Babylon can be viewed the same way, but suffers under a significantly longer runtime)

[GS77]

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The Verdict (1981) with Paul Newman.    I guess it’s underrated bc you don’t hear about it in convos of the great, but I know it’s taught along with the best directed films

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Seen it. Don’t remember it, but I recall a strange helicopter scene with Jack Ward who plays the judge. Also, an alcoholic lawyer (Paul Newman).

I love Sydney Lumet movies. He may be the greatest director of the 70s and made one of my all time favorite movies…Serpico.

Network was a prediction that stands up today.

And, one day, I have to sit down and watch Prince of the City.

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Jack Warden is his co-council and no helicopters - you might be thinking of And Justice For All


Someone once said Network wasn’t a good movie, but like 3-4 god level scenes that propped up the rest of a weak movie…I’ll let that be a discussion point…

…(But I will say that I think Babylon can be viewed the same way, but suffers under a significantly longer runtime)

You are correct. It was And Justice For All but I have seen both and I liked them both at the time I saw them.

In HS I was basically an insomniac and I would watch Turner Classics at 2 in the morning.

I have seen Network many times and it gives me chills just thinking about it. Specifically Faye Dunaway’s character. The idea of the ice queen from the holding company (basically Viacom). The speech about globalization from Ned Beatty.

I look at 70s movies as stage productions. The films are so well paced and character rich that I can forgive the stuff the director and team missed on like the Black Panther scenes in Network.

Dog Day is a fun, surprising and entertaining film also…

Never heard of Babylon but will look it up now. Do you mean the 2022 movie? I’m sort of out of the loop with new movies, but I’ll investigate. Thanks.

[Atiba Applebum]

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The Verdict (1981) with Paul Newman.    I guess it’s underrated bc you don’t hear about it in convos of the great, but I know it’s taught along with the best directed films

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Seen it. Don’t remember it, but I recall a strange helicopter scene with Jack Ward who plays the judge. Also, an alcoholic lawyer (Paul Newman).

I love Sydney Lumet movies. He may be the greatest director of the 70s and made one of my all time favorite movies…Serpico.

Network was a prediction that stands up today.

And, one day, I have to sit down and watch Prince of the City.

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Jack Warden is his co-council and no helicopters - you might be thinking of And Justice For All


Someone once said Network wasn’t a good movie, but like 3-4 god level scenes that propped up the rest of a weak movie…I’ll let that be a discussion point…

…(But I will say that I think Babylon can be viewed the same way, but suffers under a significantly longer runtime)

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You are correct. It was And Justice For All but I have seen both and I liked them both at the time I saw them.

In HS I was basically an insomniac and I would watch Turner Classics at 2 in the morning.

I have seen Network many times and it gives me chills just thinking about it. Specifically Faye Dunaway’s character. The idea of the ice queen from the holding company (basically Viacom). The speech about globalization from Ned Beatty.

I look at 70s movies as stage productions. The films are so well paced and character rich that I can forgive the stuff the director and team missed on like the Black Panther scenes in Network.

Dog Day is a fun, surprising and entertaining film also…

Never heard of Babylon but will look it up now.

Oh I like Paddy Chayefsky a lot, so I don’t begrudge anything in network, it just thought it was an interesting thought

Babylon was the massive flop from last year with Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie.   For my money, there are three scenes that are just so damn well constructed that I was down for everything else.   

[GS77]

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The Verdict (1981) with Paul Newman.    I guess it’s underrated bc you don’t hear about it in convos of the great, but I know it’s taught along with the best directed films

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Seen it. Don’t remember it, but I recall a strange helicopter scene with Jack Ward who plays the judge. Also, an alcoholic lawyer (Paul Newman).

I love Sydney Lumet movies. He may be the greatest director of the 70s and made one of my all time favorite movies…Serpico.

Network was a prediction that stands up today.

And, one day, I have to sit down and watch Prince of the City.

[close]

Jack Warden is his co-council and no helicopters - you might be thinking of And Justice For All


Someone once said Network wasn’t a good movie, but like 3-4 god level scenes that propped up the rest of a weak movie…I’ll let that be a discussion point…

…(But I will say that I think Babylon can be viewed the same way, but suffers under a significantly longer runtime)

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You are correct. It was And Justice For All but I have seen both and I liked them both at the time I saw them.

In HS I was basically an insomniac and I would watch Turner Classics at 2 in the morning.

I have seen Network many times and it gives me chills just thinking about it. Specifically Faye Dunaway’s character. The idea of the ice queen from the holding company (basically Viacom). The speech about globalization from Ned Beatty.

I look at 70s movies as stage productions. The films are so well paced and character rich that I can forgive the stuff the director and team missed on like the Black Panther scenes in Network.

Dog Day is a fun, surprising and entertaining film also…

Never heard of Babylon but will look it up now.

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Oh I like Paddy Chayefsky a lot, so I don’t begrudge anything in network, it just thought it was an interesting thought

Babylon was the massive flop from last year with Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie.   For my money, there are three scenes that are just so damn well constructed that I was down for everything else.

I was not familiar with the author but just read part of his Wikipedia. Imagine what Paddy would think if he came back and watched Fox News, MSNBC and CNN?

[Atiba Applebum]

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The Verdict (1981) with Paul Newman.    I guess it’s underrated bc you don’t hear about it in convos of the great, but I know it’s taught along with the best directed films

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Seen it. Don’t remember it, but I recall a strange helicopter scene with Jack Ward who plays the judge. Also, an alcoholic lawyer (Paul Newman).

I love Sydney Lumet movies. He may be the greatest director of the 70s and made one of my all time favorite movies…Serpico.

Network was a prediction that stands up today.

And, one day, I have to sit down and watch Prince of the City.

[close]

Jack Warden is his co-council and no helicopters - you might be thinking of And Justice For All


Someone once said Network wasn’t a good movie, but like 3-4 god level scenes that propped up the rest of a weak movie…I’ll let that be a discussion point…

…(But I will say that I think Babylon can be viewed the same way, but suffers under a significantly longer runtime)

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You are correct. It was And Justice For All but I have seen both and I liked them both at the time I saw them.

In HS I was basically an insomniac and I would watch Turner Classics at 2 in the morning.

I have seen Network many times and it gives me chills just thinking about it. Specifically Faye Dunaway’s character. The idea of the ice queen from the holding company (basically Viacom). The speech about globalization from Ned Beatty.

I look at 70s movies as stage productions. The films are so well paced and character rich that I can forgive the stuff the director and team missed on like the Black Panther scenes in Network.

Dog Day is a fun, surprising and entertaining film also…

Never heard of Babylon but will look it up now.

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Oh I like Paddy Chayefsky a lot, so I don’t begrudge anything in network, it just thought it was an interesting thought

Babylon was the massive flop from last year with Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie.   For my money, there are three scenes that are just so damn well constructed that I was down for everything else.

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I was not familiar with the author but just read part of his Wikipedia. Imagine what Paddy would think if he came back and watched Fox News, MSNBC and CNN?

He has the most Oscars for original screenplays (3)

[WavyDavy]

I watched today sun and concrete today and can really recommend it. It's a German coming of age movie

[Kook Me Amadeus]

Michael Crichton’s The Great Train Robbery (1978) with Sean Connery and Donald Sutherland is another underrated movie.  I feel like Soderbergh found some inspiration for Ocean’s Eleven in that one.

[Atiba Applebum]

Michael Crichton’s The Great Train Robbery (1978) with Sean Connery and Donald Sutherland is another underrated movie.  I feel like Soderbergh found some inspiration for Ocean’s Eleven in that one.

I’d totally check that out if I didn’t recently watch the BBC two ep (cops and robbers) version.   Assuming it’s the same robbery

[Kook Me Amadeus]

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Michael Crichton’s The Great Train Robbery (1978) with Sean Connery and Donald Sutherland is another underrated movie.  I feel like Soderbergh found some inspiration for Ocean’s Eleven in that one.

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I’d totally check that out if I didn’t recently watch the BBC two ep (cops and robbers) version.   Assuming it’s the same robbery

Different robbery, I think.  The tone is also sort of comedic, it’s a fun watch.

[Atiba Applebum]

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Michael Crichton’s The Great Train Robbery (1978) with Sean Connery and Donald Sutherland is another underrated movie.  I feel like Soderbergh found some inspiration for Ocean’s Eleven in that one.

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I’d totally check that out if I didn’t recently watch the BBC two ep (cops and robbers) version.   Assuming it’s the same robbery

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Different robbery, I think.  The tone is also sort of comedic, it’s a fun watch.

Saw a top hat so I guess that settles it that it  is different.  One is a great robbery of a train and the other is a robbery of a great train

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Michael Crichton’s The Great Train Robbery (1978) with Sean Connery and Donald Sutherland is another underrated movie.  I feel like Soderbergh found some inspiration for Ocean’s Eleven in that one.

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I’d totally check that out if I didn’t recently watch the BBC two ep (cops and robbers) version.   Assuming it’s the same robbery

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Different robbery, I think.  The tone is also sort of comedic, it’s a fun watch.

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Saw a top hat so I guess that settles it that it  is different.  One is a great robbery of a train and the other is a robbery of a great train

It was released as The First Great Train Robbery in the UK.

[Atiba Applebum]

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Michael Crichton’s The Great Train Robbery (1978) with Sean Connery and Donald Sutherland is another underrated movie.  I feel like Soderbergh found some inspiration for Ocean’s Eleven in that one.

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I’d totally check that out if I didn’t recently watch the BBC two ep (cops and robbers) version.   Assuming it’s the same robbery

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Different robbery, I think.  The tone is also sort of comedic, it’s a fun watch.

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Saw a top hat so I guess that settles it that it  is different.  One is a great robbery of a train and the other is a robbery of a great train

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It was released as The First Great Train Robbery in the UK.

Hah that’s interesting

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Michael Crichton’s The Great Train Robbery (1978) with Sean Connery and Donald Sutherland is another underrated movie.  I feel like Soderbergh found some inspiration for Ocean’s Eleven in that one.

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I’d totally check that out if I didn’t recently watch the BBC two ep (cops and robbers) version.   Assuming it’s the same robbery

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Different robbery, I think.  The tone is also sort of comedic, it’s a fun watch.

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Saw a top hat so I guess that settles it that it  is different.  One is a great robbery of a train and the other is a robbery of a great train

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It was released as The First Great Train Robbery in the UK.

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Hah that’s interesting

That does look pretty good. I always skipped it based on the fact that I thought it was Chrichton doing some kind of meta film take with a remake of the very first narrative film ever. And then I was like man fuck this surgeon! I may have a Chrichton directs blind spot.

[Atiba Applebum]

My good buddy wrote Blue Beetle so give it a watch or spare an A-List ticket for it and don’t actually go

[Kook Me Amadeus]

Got my 🔵🪲 🎟️.  Based on what I’ve previously seen in trailers, it certainly adds a layer of depth to learn a singular human actually wrote that.

[Atiba Applebum]

Got my 🔵🪲 🎟️.  Based on what I’ve previously seen in trailers, it certainly adds a layer of depth to learn a singular human actually wrote that.

Yeah obviously studio notes yadda yadda but he survived it being the only writer.  Not even uncredited ones

[Tireeedd]

can't even remember at this point

[matt_2993]

Finally saw Oldboy.  20th anniversary so its in theaters right now and would definitely recommend if you like absolutely fucked revenge stories

[Atiba Applebum]

Finally saw Oldboy.  20th anniversary so its in theaters right now and would definitely recommend if you like absolutely fucked revenge stories

i brought my daughter to it.  we had a good time

[BallDontLie]

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Finally saw Oldboy.  20th anniversary so its in theaters right now and would definitely recommend if you like absolutely fucked revenge stories

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i brought my daughter to it.  we had a good time

That is sick…. Always wanted to do this. Very fond memories going to the cinema with my ma’. Getting soft in my old age lol

[Atiba Applebum]

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Finally saw Oldboy.  20th anniversary so its in theaters right now and would definitely recommend if you like absolutely fucked revenge stories

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i brought my daughter to it.  we had a good time

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That is sick…. Always wanted to do this. Very fond memories going to the cinema with my ma’. Getting soft in my old age lol

 

[Big Baby Jesus]

Arsenic and Old Lace. On a big Cary Grant kick lately.

[brycickle]

Arsenic and Old Lace. On a big Cary Grant kick lately.

This movie is amazing. I'd love to be able to catch a showing of it as a play too.

[Kombuch-A-Holic]

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Finally saw Oldboy.  20th anniversary so its in theaters right now and would definitely recommend if you like absolutely fucked revenge stories

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i brought my daughter to it.  we had a good time

damn lol

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Finally saw Oldboy.  20th anniversary so its in theaters right now and would definitely recommend if you like absolutely fucked revenge stories

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i brought my daughter to it.  we had a good time

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That is sick…. Always wanted to do this. Very fond memories going to the cinema with my ma’. Getting soft in my old age lol

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Oh wait…. I just got it hahahaha I’m embarrassed

Whoosh

[Kook Me Amadeus]

Theater Camp was actually really good, one of the better/funnier things I’ve seen this year.  Wish I’d gotten to that one sooner.

Also Blue Beetle was better than I expected.  It was silly but also pretty entertaining.  The audience really enjoyed it - lots of Latinos in my theater - it got big applause at the credits.  Props to your buddy @Atiba Applebum.

The Last Voyage of the Demeter was only watchable because André Øvredal is a solid visualist, but the script was really clunky.

Jules had the opposite problem.  Though I ultimately enjoyed it, Marc Turtletaub isn’t really a director, and I had to go see Oppenheimer again afterwards to get my eyes right.