Twin tail

[goodatmeth]

Dunno if these guys will ever release another skateboard but they’re offering a TT in a wide variety of sizes (min 14” wb).

https://litheskateboards.com/shop/decks

Click board dimensions at the top for a chart.
Trigger warning - graphics are beyond minging.

Edit: Actually the “NEX” model is shipping and available as twin

7 inch tails goddamn. But yeah everything about this looks terrible

[Xen]

https://www.deathwishskateboards.com/products/neen-astrovore-twin-deck-8-25

https://www.tactics.com/deathwish/neen-astrovore-825-twin-shape-skateboard-deck/army

Just picked one up (Army stain), dims look good (even tho none of the sites (31.5") match up to the official DW listing (31.75")

8.25x31.75x14.25 - can't find any info on kicks length the images around the web look more nose than tail (which is what the 8.125 board was) but if it truly is 31.5"Lx14.25" wheelbase that doesn't leave much for traditional 6.8/7" kicks.

Going to marry it with some 148 Thunder Team hollows (black plates/raw hanger) and 51mm spitfire tablets.

[Bigwheelbite]

Not a fan of the graphic but probably still gonna buy it for the shape

Really? How can u not like this graphic? - BMW E30 baby! Top 5 European classic car from the early 90's.

This is hands down one of the best skateboards out there. All about the twin tail - Real got this one down. Once you've skated one of these everything else feels wrong...
   

[goodatmeth]

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Not a fan of the graphic but probably still gonna buy it for the shape

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Really? How can u not like this graphic? - BMW E30 baby! Top 5 European classic car from the early 90's.

This is hands down one of the best skateboards out there. All about the twin tail - Real got this one down. Once you've skated one of these everything else feels wrong...
 

Would you like the graphic if it was some other random car? That's how it looks to people that don't care about cars. Pretty bad.

[Xen]

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Not a fan of the graphic but probably still gonna buy it for the shape

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Really? How can u not like this graphic? - BMW E30 baby! Top 5 European classic car from the early 90's.

This is hands down one of the best skateboards out there. All about the twin tail - Real got this one down. Once you've skated one of these everything else feels wrong...
 

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Would you like the graphic if it was some other random car? That's how it looks to people that don't care about cars. Pretty bad.

[Bigwheelbite]

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Not a fan of the graphic but probably still gonna buy it for the shape

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Really? How can u not like this graphic? - BMW E30 baby! Top 5 European classic car from the early 90's.

This is hands down one of the best skateboards out there. All about the twin tail - Real got this one down. Once you've skated one of these everything else feels wrong...
 

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Would you like the graphic if it was some other random car? That's how it looks to people that don't care about cars. Pretty bad.

Wouldn't care tbh. The graphic really doesn't matter as you can't see it after a couple of sessions anyway. As long as the shape & concave is good - that's all that matters surely?


 

[Bigwheelbite]

https://www.deathwishskateboards.com/products/neen-astrovore-twin-deck-8-25

https://www.tactics.com/deathwish/neen-astrovore-825-twin-shape-skateboard-deck/army

Just picked one up (Army stain), dims look good (even tho none of the sites (31.5") match up to the official DW listing (31.75")

8.25x31.75x14.25 - can't find any info on kicks length the images around the web look more nose than tail (which is what the 8.125 board was) but if it truly is 31.5"Lx14.25" wheelbase that doesn't leave much for traditional 6.8/7" kicks.

Going to marry it with some 148 Thunder Team hollows (black plates/raw hanger) and 51mm spitfire tablets.

How is it?

[jakeumms]

I haven't really messed with twin shapes much but I was curious if it's normal for the nose to be slightly longer than the tail or does that disqualify it from being a true twin? I got one of those Dead Dave double shovels and the nose is a quarter inch longer than the tail. Pretty dope shape, one way or the other.

[Fhk]

I haven't really messed with twin shapes much but I was curious if it's normal for the nose to be slightly longer than the tail or does that disqualify it from being a true twin? I got one of those Dead Dave double shovels and the nose is a quarter inch longer than the tail. Pretty dope shape, one way or the other.

Typically they have to be completely symmetrical.

[Xen]

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I haven't really messed with twin shapes much but I was curious if it's normal for the nose to be slightly longer than the tail or does that disqualify it from being a true twin? I got one of those Dead Dave double shovels and the nose is a quarter inch longer than the tail. Pretty dope shape, one way or the other.

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Typically they have to be completely symmetrical.

That’s been the issue with the SC VX McCoy decks, labeled as symmetrical but have differing kick length (though the degree of kick is supposedly identical; for the record it doesn’t feel any different skating them either way).

[Xen]

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https://www.deathwishskateboards.com/products/neen-astrovore-twin-deck-8-25

https://www.tactics.com/deathwish/neen-astrovore-825-twin-shape-skateboard-deck/army

Just picked one up (Army stain), dims look good (even tho none of the sites (31.5") match up to the official DW listing (31.75")

8.25x31.75x14.25 - can't find any info on kicks length the images around the web look more nose than tail (which is what the 8.125 board was) but if it truly is 31.5"Lx14.25" wheelbase that doesn't leave much for traditional 6.8/7" kicks.

Going to marry it with some 148 Thunder Team hollows (black plates/raw hanger) and 51mm spitfire tablets.

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How is it?

@Bigwheelbite

It's by far the most normal feeling twin board I've ridden. I've only put two sessions on it (coming off my DLX 8.3 TT slick) but I love it so far; it's great to have a normal/shorter wheelbase.

Board measures true: 8.25"x31.5x14.25 WB, kicks are both 6.75" 6.5/8" | Medium concave/steep but perhaps just a slight bit on the deeper/steeper side.

It's truly a twin kick/hybrid, neither twin tail nor twin nose but something right in between (even if the kicks are closer to normal tail lengths than noses). It's a 'fuller' shape at the base of the kicks through the middle/top with a super slight taper towards the tip.

For whatever reason it sort feels like a REAL Full SE (using the tails but longer) or hte Mystery Symmetry decks from 10 yrs ago.

I'm tempted to grab another one to put on ice.

EDIT: measure properly (flat tape measure) and the kick length is 6.5/8"

[jakeumms]

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https://www.deathwishskateboards.com/products/neen-astrovore-twin-deck-8-25

https://www.tactics.com/deathwish/neen-astrovore-825-twin-shape-skateboard-deck/army

Just picked one up (Army stain), dims look good (even tho none of the sites (31.5") match up to the official DW listing (31.75")

8.25x31.75x14.25 - can't find any info on kicks length the images around the web look more nose than tail (which is what the 8.125 board was) but if it truly is 31.5"Lx14.25" wheelbase that doesn't leave much for traditional 6.8/7" kicks.

Going to marry it with some 148 Thunder Team hollows (black plates/raw hanger) and 51mm spitfire tablets.

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How is it?

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@Bigwheelbite

It's by far the most normal feeling twin board I've ridden. I've only put two sessions on it (coming off my DLX 8.3 TT slick) but I love it so far; it's great to have a normal/shorter wheelbase.

Board measures true: 8.25"x31.5x14.25 WB, kicks are both 6.75" | Medium concave/steep but perhaps just a slight bit on the deeper/steeper side.

It's truly a twin kick/hybrid, neither twin tail nor twin nose but something right in between (even if the kicks are closer to normal tail lengths than noses). It's a 'fuller' shape at the base of the kicks through the middle/top with a super slight taper towards the tip.

For whatever reason it sort feels like a REAL Full SE (using the tails but longer).

I'm tempted to grab another one to put on ice.

CRob and Paul Schmitt were calling them Twin Paddles a few weeks ago on the Nine Club. I dunno if I feel good about it but that's the term they were using for twins that had neither tails or noses exactly but something in between.

[Xen]

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https://www.deathwishskateboards.com/products/neen-astrovore-twin-deck-8-25

https://www.tactics.com/deathwish/neen-astrovore-825-twin-shape-skateboard-deck/army

Just picked one up (Army stain), dims look good (even tho none of the sites (31.5") match up to the official DW listing (31.75")

8.25x31.75x14.25 - can't find any info on kicks length the images around the web look more nose than tail (which is what the 8.125 board was) but if it truly is 31.5"Lx14.25" wheelbase that doesn't leave much for traditional 6.8/7" kicks.

Going to marry it with some 148 Thunder Team hollows (black plates/raw hanger) and 51mm spitfire tablets.

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How is it?

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@Bigwheelbite

It's by far the most normal feeling twin board I've ridden. I've only put two sessions on it (coming off my DLX 8.3 TT slick) but I love it so far; it's great to have a normal/shorter wheelbase.

Board measures true: 8.25"x31.5x14.25 WB, kicks are both 6.75" | Medium concave/steep but perhaps just a slight bit on the deeper/steeper side.

It's truly a twin kick/hybrid, neither twin tail nor twin nose but something right in between (even if the kicks are closer to normal tail lengths than noses). It's a 'fuller' shape at the base of the kicks through the middle/top with a super slight taper towards the tip.

For whatever reason it sort feels like a REAL Full SE (using the tails but longer).

I'm tempted to grab another one to put on ice.

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CRob and Paul Schmitt were calling them Twin Paddles a few weeks ago on the Nine Club. I dunno if I feel good about it but that's the term they were using for twins that had neither tails or noses exactly but something in between.

@jakeumms Yea, I caught that, twin 'paddle' boards is fucking stupid (I thought it was Crob trying to be 'funny' and stir up trouble as usual,like his weak thunder but indy schtik). I say we go back to the Vision OG days and just call them double/twin kicks (and let them be different shapes). Deathwish has it right with this one: 'Twin Deck' even if they also state 'symmetrical nose and tail' it's a twin and symmetrical there is no [spoon] nose or tail.

[Mariatorresflores]

Dunno if these guys will ever release another skateboard but they’re offering a TT in a wide variety of sizes (min 14” wb).

https://litheskateboards.com/shop/decks

Click board dimensions at the top for a chart.
Trigger warning - graphics are beyond minging.

Edit: Actually the “NEX” model is shipping and available as twin

Damn that's rough looking shit. Why are the prices so ridiculous?

I'm cool with the ishod car decks. I don't like the branding on some of the graphics but it beats skating most of the recent Krooked Gonz-squiggle graphics (the Kiss looking dude flipping the bird, the blue deck with Jesus fish all over it, Barbra Streisand etc). I love Gonz but the Archer one's the only one I've dug in a couple years now (strictly talking TTs).

[Sacha]

Someone on page 1 mentioned flip… there are a few decks where the nose and tail dims are just 0.04 inches apart, but I assume the steepness or shape isn’t the same.
E.g. https://store.hlcdist.com/producto/flip-penny-kaja-8-38-deck/

[GBLange]

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https://www.deathwishskateboards.com/products/neen-astrovore-twin-deck-8-25

https://www.tactics.com/deathwish/neen-astrovore-825-twin-shape-skateboard-deck/army

Just picked one up (Army stain), dims look good (even tho none of the sites (31.5") match up to the official DW listing (31.75")

8.25x31.75x14.25 - can't find any info on kicks length the images around the web look more nose than tail (which is what the 8.125 board was) but if it truly is 31.5"Lx14.25" wheelbase that doesn't leave much for traditional 6.8/7" kicks.

Going to marry it with some 148 Thunder Team hollows (black plates/raw hanger) and 51mm spitfire tablets.

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How is it?

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@Bigwheelbite

It's by far the most normal feeling twin board I've ridden. I've only put two sessions on it (coming off my DLX 8.3 TT slick) but I love it so far; it's great to have a normal/shorter wheelbase.

Board measures true: 8.25"x31.5x14.25 WB, kicks are both 6.75" | Medium concave/steep but perhaps just a slight bit on the deeper/steeper side.

It's truly a twin kick/hybrid, neither twin tail nor twin nose but something right in between (even if the kicks are closer to normal tail lengths than noses). It's a 'fuller' shape at the base of the kicks through the middle/top with a super slight taper towards the tip.

For whatever reason it sort feels like a REAL Full SE (using the tails but longer).

I'm tempted to grab another one to put on ice.

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CRob and Paul Schmitt were calling them Twin Paddles a few weeks ago on the Nine Club. I dunno if I feel good about it but that's the term they were using for twins that had neither tails or noses exactly but something in between.

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@jakeumms Yea, I caught that, twin 'paddle' boards is fucking stupid (I thought it was Crob trying to be 'funny' and stir up trouble as usual,like his weak thunder but indy schtik). I say we go back to the Vision OG days and just call them double/twin kicks (and let them be different shapes). Deathwish has it right with this one: 'Twin Deck' even if they also state 'symmetrical nose and tail' it's a twin and symmetrical there is no [spoon] nose or tail.

yes. twin kick.

[Xen]

The new Neen Twin really reminds me of the old Mystery symmetrical boards but with a slightly smaller kick length.




If you are thinking about it, grab one, they are selling out really fast. Tactics had multiples of each colorway a few days ago, now they have only have a handful, same for TGM. Skate Warehouse still has them (nabbed one from them last night). Check your local tho!

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Deathwish_Neen_Astrovore_TWIN_Deck/descpage-DWNASTR82DK.html

https://www.tactics.com/deathwish/neen-astrovore-825-twin-shape-skateboard-deck

https://www.deathwishskateboards.com/products/neen-astrovore-twin-deck-8-25

[Bigwheelbite]

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https://www.deathwishskateboards.com/products/neen-astrovore-twin-deck-8-25

https://www.tactics.com/deathwish/neen-astrovore-825-twin-shape-skateboard-deck/army

Just picked one up (Army stain), dims look good (even tho none of the sites (31.5") match up to the official DW listing (31.75")

8.25x31.75x14.25 - can't find any info on kicks length the images around the web look more nose than tail (which is what the 8.125 board was) but if it truly is 31.5"Lx14.25" wheelbase that doesn't leave much for traditional 6.8/7" kicks.

Going to marry it with some 148 Thunder Team hollows (black plates/raw hanger) and 51mm spitfire tablets.

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How is it?

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@Bigwheelbite

It's by far the most normal feeling twin board I've ridden. I've only put two sessions on it (coming off my DLX 8.3 TT slick) but I love it so far; it's great to have a normal/shorter wheelbase.

Board measures true: 8.25"x31.5x14.25 WB, kicks are both 6.75" | Medium concave/steep but perhaps just a slight bit on the deeper/steeper side.

It's truly a twin kick/hybrid, neither twin tail nor twin nose but something right in between (even if the kicks are closer to normal tail lengths than noses). It's a 'fuller' shape at the base of the kicks through the middle/top with a super slight taper towards the tip.

For whatever reason it sort feels like a REAL Full SE (using the tails but longer) or hte Mystery Symmetry decks from 10 yrs ago.
I'm tempted to grab another one to put on ice.

Thanks for sharing man. Neen actually says on his most recent Nine Club stop and chat that his deck is a 'twin nose' where as the Ishod TT is more of a 'twin tail'. Have you tried the Ishod TT by any chance? Just wondered what you thought if so.

Have to say, the polymer finish on the Real Slick Ishod TT is buttery AF.
 
Cheers

[Xen]

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https://www.deathwishskateboards.com/products/neen-astrovore-twin-deck-8-25

https://www.tactics.com/deathwish/neen-astrovore-825-twin-shape-skateboard-deck/army

Just picked one up (Army stain), dims look good (even tho none of the sites (31.5") match up to the official DW listing (31.75")

8.25x31.75x14.25 - can't find any info on kicks length the images around the web look more nose than tail (which is what the 8.125 board was) but if it truly is 31.5"Lx14.25" wheelbase that doesn't leave much for traditional 6.8/7" kicks.

Going to marry it with some 148 Thunder Team hollows (black plates/raw hanger) and 51mm spitfire tablets.

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How is it?

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@Bigwheelbite

It's by far the most normal feeling twin board I've ridden. I've only put two sessions on it (coming off my DLX 8.3 TT slick) but I love it so far; it's great to have a normal/shorter wheelbase.

Board measures true: 8.25"x31.5x14.25 WB, kicks are both 6.75" (top measurement) | Medium concave/steep but perhaps just a slight bit on the deeper/steeper side.

It's truly a twin kick/hybrid, neither twin tail nor twin nose but something right in between (even if the kicks are closer to normal tail lengths than noses). It's a 'fuller' shape at the base of the kicks through the middle/top with a super slight taper towards the tip.

For whatever reason it sort feels like a REAL Full SE (using the tails but longer) or hte Mystery Symmetry decks from 10 yrs ago.
I'm tempted to grab another one to put on ice.

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Thanks for sharing man. Neen actually says on his most recent Nine Club stop and chat that his deck is a 'twin nose' where as the Ishod TT is more of a 'twin tail'. Have you tried the Ishod TT by any chance? Just wondered what you thought if so.

Have to say, the polymer finish on the Real Slick Ishod TT is buttery AF.
 
Cheers

Incoming madness/nerdery:

I've ridden three 8.3" [of the older] DLX TT & currently have an 8.3 Worrest TT slick. I prefer short wheelbases on 8.25s so never tried a dlx tt 8.25". Love the 8.3 shape and it works as intended - but the slick is heavier than I'd like (it's a slappy board with 8.5" tensor maglights so I wasn't worried about weight); my main gripe has always been the length of the wheelbase offerings.

In that Stop and Chat he was referencing the previous 8.125" twin(?), which was indeed a twin nose; I've not ridden or stood on one to compare to the new 8.25.

The 8.25" from the recent 07/26/21 drop isn't called a TT or TN/DN (which doesn't mean it isn't). My pic does lean towards it looking a traditional nose but skating it, it doesn't feel (or really look top down) like either one; it really just feels like a hybrid, where the DLX TT is a tail.

Both kicks on both boards measure 6 5/8" long (topside measurement from edge of bolts to tip; FWIW with thunders on the DW, edge of plate to tip is 6.5" of usable kick if that fucking matters...asume 6 7/16" if using an Indy or Tensor plate (which is what the DLX TT measures with Tensor plates)...the dims put it as a long tail/short nose in my book...long tail with a nose shape...I'm used to 6.5" tails and 6.75"/7" noses so that might be why if feels like neither.

8.3" DLX TT left             |   8.25 DW Neen twin right


Sliding one way or the other felt as normal as could be and popping tricks I normally do off nose (fakie big spins or fakie big heels) for example were no problem...but I was coming off the DLX board for a few days and prior to that a regular board where mentally I had to pop those tricks off the nose, because I *had* one and that's how I learned them.

Anyway, it's awesome, best twin kick out there in my opinion/from what I've ridden (if you prefer shorter/standard WB). I'm shelving regular boards for the foreseeable future and stocking up on these.

[Bigwheelbite]

Has anyone experimented with diff truck combos on their TT decks by any chance?

Found my Ishod 8.3 TT (L 31.9" / WB 14.4" / 6.6" TT) almost impossible to manual with Team Thunders. Chucked my Ace classic 44's on em and voila - problem solved. I have to say, it's crazy how much significant difference this whole deck & truck WB combo makes. Anyone else experience the same or similar?

When the likes of Prof Schmidtt and Ben Degros etc started talking about all this way back when, I thought it was all bs and we should just skate whatever (who cares) but after two years or experimenting I hate to admit that the difference can be night & day.   

[Xen]

Has anyone experimented with diff truck combos on their TT decks by any chance?

Found my Ishod 8.3 TT (L 31.9" / WB 14.4" / 6.6" TT) almost impossible to manual with Team Thunders. Chucked my Ace classic 44's on em and voila - problem solved. I have to say, it's crazy how much significant difference this whole deck & truck WB combo makes. Anyone else experience the same or similar?

When the likes of Prof Schmidtt and Ben Degros etc started talking about all this way back when, I thought it was all bs and we should just skate whatever (who cares) but after two years or experimenting I hate to admit that the difference can be night & day.   

Sure have!

I didn’t like the O.G. 8.3” with thunders either. At basically 32” long (31.9”) with a 14.3” WB it’s already long, and thunders just exacerbate that feeling. It feels best on 144 Indys; Also, the dlx slicks feel soggy/heavy to me so I didn’t overly enjoy them.

My [dumb] rule of thumb is Indy/Tensor/Ace/Theeve on anything 14.3” WB or more, and Thunder on anything 14.1” and under...while not accurate at all, these to me, keeps them all feeling neutral, I.e., not too big not small.

[Bigwheelbite]

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Has anyone experimented with diff truck combos on their TT decks by any chance?

Found my Ishod 8.3 TT (L 31.9" / WB 14.4" / 6.6" TT) almost impossible to manual with Team Thunders. Chucked my Ace classic 44's on em and voila - problem solved. I have to say, it's crazy how much significant difference this whole deck & truck WB combo makes. Anyone else experience the same or similar?

When the likes of Prof Schmidtt and Ben Degros etc started talking about all this way back when, I thought it was all bs and we should just skate whatever (who cares) but after two years or experimenting I hate to admit that the difference can be night & day.   

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Sure have!

I didn’t like the O.G. 8.3” with thunders either. At basically 32” long (31.9”) with a 14.3” WB it’s already long, and thunders just exacerbate that feeling. It feels best on 144 Indys; Also, the dlx slicks feel soggy/heavy to me so I didn’t overly enjoy them.

My [dumb] rule of thumb is Indy/Tensor/Ace/Theeve on anything 14.3” WB or more, and Thunder on anything 14.1” and under...while not accurate at all, these to me, keeps them all feeling neutral, I.e., not too big not small.

I can see why 147 thunders with two top bushings combo (bringing the wb in) would work that much better - prob feels similar to the Indy 44 combo. Agreed about the slick feeling heavier than normal.

That's a good rule of thumb

[Xen]

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Has anyone experimented with diff truck combos on their TT decks by any chance?

Found my Ishod 8.3 TT (L 31.9" / WB 14.4" / 6.6" TT) almost impossible to manual with Team Thunders. Chucked my Ace classic 44's on em and voila - problem solved. I have to say, it's crazy how much significant difference this whole deck & truck WB combo makes. Anyone else experience the same or similar?

When the likes of Prof Schmidtt and Ben Degros etc started talking about all this way back when, I thought it was all bs and we should just skate whatever (who cares) but after two years or experimenting I hate to admit that the difference can be night & day.   

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Sure have!

I didn’t like the O.G. 8.3” with thunders either. At basically 32” long (31.9”) with a 14.3” WB it’s already long, and thunders just exacerbate that feeling. It feels best on 144 Indys; Also, the dlx slicks feel soggy/heavy to me so I didn’t overly enjoy them.

My [dumb] rule of thumb is Indy/Tensor/Ace/Theeve on anything 14.3” WB or more, and Thunder on anything 14.1” and under...while not accurate at all, these to me, keeps them all feeling neutral, I.e., not too big not small.

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I can see why 147 thunders with two top bushings combo (bringing the wb in) would work that much better - prob feels similar to the Indy 44 combo. Agreed about the slick feeling heavier than normal.

That's a good rule of thumb

I should mention that 14.25” which seems to be the standard, I can handle on pretty much any truck (favoring Indy or thunder since they do less of an extreme wheelbase push or pull compared to say venture or Ace).

Thunders with two top bushings would have me wheel biting just pushing…and he doesn’t seem to ride tight either. Crazy.

[Bigwheelbite]

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Has anyone experimented with diff truck combos on their TT decks by any chance?

Found my Ishod 8.3 TT (L 31.9" / WB 14.4" / 6.6" TT) almost impossible to manual with Team Thunders. Chucked my Ace classic 44's on em and voila - problem solved. I have to say, it's crazy how much significant difference this whole deck & truck WB combo makes. Anyone else experience the same or similar?

When the likes of Prof Schmidtt and Ben Degros etc started talking about all this way back when, I thought it was all bs and we should just skate whatever (who cares) but after two years or experimenting I hate to admit that the difference can be night & day.   

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Sure have!

I didn’t like the O.G. 8.3” with thunders either. At basically 32” long (31.9”) with a 14.3” WB it’s already long, and thunders just exacerbate that feeling. It feels best on 144 Indys; Also, the dlx slicks feel soggy/heavy to me so I didn’t overly enjoy them.

My [dumb] rule of thumb is Indy/Tensor/Ace/Theeve on anything 14.3” WB or more, and Thunder on anything 14.1” and under...while not accurate at all, these to me, keeps them all feeling neutral, I.e., not too big not small.

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I can see why 147 thunders with two top bushings combo (bringing the wb in) would work that much better - prob feels similar to the Indy 44 combo. Agreed about the slick feeling heavier than normal.

That's a good rule of thumb

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I should mention that 14.25” which seems to be the standard, I can handle on pretty much any truck (favoring Indy or thunder since they do less of an extreme wheelbase push or pull compared to say venture or Ace).

Thunders with two top bushings would have me wheel biting just pushing…and he doesn’t seem to ride tight either. Crazy.

Yeah I tested that thunder two top bushing combo last summer and was getting mad wheel bite just pushing! No idea how he skates that shit and havin em so loose as well.

[ImmanuelCunt]

Doesn't he ride with risers. I like the 8.3 with thunders the most. 147 and 148 are both fine for me. Both have their advantages. Don't like it on thunder 149. Rode it with Films 5.25. as well, which have similiar wheelbase like ace. I liked it, but putting on thunder 147 felt like a revelation. I prefer cast over forged plates on thunders at least with the twin tail. Messes with my flick somehow.
In retrospective hated 149 on the TT. Tempted to try it with Ventures 5.25 lo/hi or 5.6 but I feel I would not like the grind of them.
I prefer the thunder 147/148 for everything except that I feel like it is not the most "poppy" setup. But that is the twin tail for me in general. But beside that the advantages definitely outweigh that and it actually does not hinder me in my skating.

[Xen]

Doesn't he ride with risers. I like the 8.3 with thunders the most. 147 and 148 are both fine for me. Both have their advantages. Don't like it on thunder 149. Rode it with Films 5.25. as well, which have similiar wheelbase like ace. I liked it, but putting on thunder 147 felt like a revelation. I prefer cast over forged plates on thunders at least with the twin tail. Messes with my flick somehow.
In retrospective hated 149 on the TT. Tempted to try it with Ventures 5.25 lo/hi or 5.6 but I feel I would not like the grind of them.
I prefer the thunder 147/148 for everything except that I feel like it is not the most "poppy" setup. But that is the twin tail for me in general. But beside that the advantages definitely outweigh that and it actually does not hinder me in my skating.

I tried 149s as well but they it just turns into a slog of a board, big WB, long length, wide trucks, etc. No bueno. Plus, it's a true 8.3 so it's more like an 8.25 than the wider 8.38 that DLX makes.

I get it, it's 'custom' he/worrest ride it and they like it but the dims are just 'big', that's why I like the Neen board, regular 14.25WB, even if the 31.5 is a tad short (but still manageable). If i had my way: a full 8.25/8.28, 14.25WB and 31.75" long hybrid kicks around 6.675.

[Bigwheelbite]

Doesn't he ride with risers. I like the 8.3 with thunders the most. 147 and 148 are both fine for me. Both have their advantages. Don't like it on thunder 149. Rode it with Films 5.25. as well, which have similiar wheelbase like ace. I liked it, but putting on thunder 147 felt like a revelation. I prefer cast over forged plates on thunders at least with the twin tail. Messes with my flick somehow.
In retrospective hated 149 on the TT. Tempted to try it with Ventures 5.25 lo/hi or 5.6 but I feel I would not like the grind of them.
I prefer the thunder 147/148 for everything except that I feel like it is not the most "poppy" setup. But that is the twin tail for me in general. But beside that the advantages definitely outweigh that and it actually does not hinder me in my skating.

I’ve seen him skating with and without risers tbh. Interesting, what is it about the 147/148 thunders that make it feel and work better for you on the 8.3 TT? Does the turn feel significantly different on 147/148 compared to 149?

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Doesn't he ride with risers. I like the 8.3 with thunders the most. 147 and 148 are both fine for me. Both have their advantages. Don't like it on thunder 149. Rode it with Films 5.25. as well, which have similiar wheelbase like ace. I liked it, but putting on thunder 147 felt like a revelation. I prefer cast over forged plates on thunders at least with the twin tail. Messes with my flick somehow.
In retrospective hated 149 on the TT. Tempted to try it with Ventures 5.25 lo/hi or 5.6 but I feel I would not like the grind of them.
I prefer the thunder 147/148 for everything except that I feel like it is not the most "poppy" setup. But that is the twin tail for me in general. But beside that the advantages definitely outweigh that and it actually does not hinder me in my skating.

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I tried 149s as well but they it just turns into a slog of a board, big WB, long length, wide trucks, etc. No bueno. Plus, it's a true 8.3 so it's more like an 8.25 than the wider 8.38 that DLX makes.

I get it, it's 'custom' he/worrest ride it and they like it but the dims are just 'big', that's why I like the Neen board, regular 14.25WB, even if the 31.5 is a tad short (but still manageable). If i had my way: a full 8.25/8.28, 14.25WB and 31.75" long hybrid kicks around 6.675.

Yeah makes sense why I wasn’t feeling it with the 149’s. Instantly felt way better and could actually hold manuals with classic 44’s.

I heard originally the neen DW true twin had two steep noses but they’ve mellowed it out since - is this correct?

[Xen]

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Doesn't he ride with risers. I like the 8.3 with thunders the most. 147 and 148 are both fine for me. Both have their advantages. Don't like it on thunder 149. Rode it with Films 5.25. as well, which have similiar wheelbase like ace. I liked it, but putting on thunder 147 felt like a revelation. I prefer cast over forged plates on thunders at least with the twin tail. Messes with my flick somehow.
In retrospective hated 149 on the TT. Tempted to try it with Ventures 5.25 lo/hi or 5.6 but I feel I would not like the grind of them.
I prefer the thunder 147/148 for everything except that I feel like it is not the most "poppy" setup. But that is the twin tail for me in general. But beside that the advantages definitely outweigh that and it actually does not hinder me in my skating.

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I’ve seen him skating with and without risers tbh. Interesting, what is it about the 147/148 thunders that make it feel and work better for you on the 8.3 TT? Does the turn feel significantly different on 147/148 compared to 149?

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Doesn't he ride with risers. I like the 8.3 with thunders the most. 147 and 148 are both fine for me. Both have their advantages. Don't like it on thunder 149. Rode it with Films 5.25. as well, which have similiar wheelbase like ace. I liked it, but putting on thunder 147 felt like a revelation. I prefer cast over forged plates on thunders at least with the twin tail. Messes with my flick somehow.
In retrospective hated 149 on the TT. Tempted to try it with Ventures 5.25 lo/hi or 5.6 but I feel I would not like the grind of them.
I prefer the thunder 147/148 for everything except that I feel like it is not the most "poppy" setup. But that is the twin tail for me in general. But beside that the advantages definitely outweigh that and it actually does not hinder me in my skating.

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I tried 149s as well but they it just turns into a slog of a board, big WB, long length, wide trucks, etc. No bueno. Plus, it's a true 8.3 so it's more like an 8.25 than the wider 8.38 that DLX makes.

I get it, it's 'custom' he/worrest ride it and they like it but the dims are just 'big', that's why I like the Neen board, regular 14.25WB, even if the 31.5 is a tad short (but still manageable). If i had my way: a full 8.25/8.28, 14.25WB and 31.75" long hybrid kicks around 6.675.

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Yeah makes sense why I wasn’t feeling it with the 149’s. Instantly felt way better and could actually hold manuals with classic 44’s.

I heard originally the neen DW true twin had two steep noses but they’ve mellowed it out since - is this correct?

8.25" trucks are just goldilocks for me, not too small, not too big, and work great across the 3 sizes I skate: 8.125/8.25/8.375 so win/win/win. Plus, not as heavy as 149s and have more grind room than 8" trucks.

Never rode the first neen twin nose but the twin I'm riding now is totally different as far as dimensions go to it's predecessor (and the current DW 8.5 neen twin as well). The other was long, big wb and two noses, the 8.25 is shorter all around and built dims-wise like a 'regular or standard' 8.25...it honestly just feels like your standard 8.25 BB board but with identical kicks.

[weon]

after a couple cruises to the store I’m pretty happy with an Ishod 8.3 TT (III) on Ace 44s

I’ll def look for a IV stamp if I ever see these in person, I usually ride mellow toy machine boards ele o ele

[Sacha]

Incidentally I found a review out there saying the non VX McCoy is also symmetrical. The measurements seem to back that up:
https://www.nhsfunfactory.com/825in-x-3183in-mccoy-afterglow-santa-cruz-skateboard-deck