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those who think sopranos is overrated should check out sopranos autopsy or some of the analysis out there on each of the episodes for some context and details you might have missed. the show feels pretty fuckin deep to me.
the wire not so much but was still a pretty honest seeming representation of that world and i think that’s what makes it worth watching
It's less a comment about the quality of the sopranos and the wire and more about how much people amped them up for years. Impossible to live up to. They're both good shows but not like there aren't a hundred other shows equally good. Now if I watched them back when they came out I can understand in that context they must of been so much better than everything else of the time but at least since 09 there's been constant good shows every year. But I'll also admit I'm getting kinda burnt out on series in general.
Start listing the 100 others. I think everyone from your stoner friend to film critics agree that those 2 are the top or among the top TV drama series ever. I like plenty of other shows, but you have to remember the context of TV when they came out. It was just after shit like Lost and reality TV was huge and most dramas were really cheesy like ER. By not being traditional networks HBO and others were able to turn a normal show into a movie with a dozenish little chapters. It was a really great way to experience how the stories unfold that very few have been able to do for as many seasons.
Yeah I pretty much said the same thing...
Just for the fun of it: Boardwalk Empire, game of Thrones, breaking bad, The Tudors, mr mercedes, westworld, true detective, fortitude, the bridge, legion, the mist, mystery road, top of the lake, actually fuck it I give up. Annoying that I've seen a billion shows and now can't even remember titles.