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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: jesuswong on October 07, 2018, 12:59:58 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8f9_WSe_ek
17:00 minute mark
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Aww that's a real bummer to hear. I just figured his contract was up when he got of.
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wow that sucks to listen to..
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Jerry is a legend, he should have Legend Status on Emerica like Ray Barbee has on Element or Gino on Nike.
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where can i watch wet hot emerican summer it's not on youtube
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Everything about this is depressing as fuck.
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I guess he should a went to Nike when he could have?
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The biggest news here
A new user posted a relavant thread, containing a link, WITH context?!
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The fact that Jerry Hsu is borderline sponsorless right now is fucked up. Where is he going to end up, if anywhere? I haven't listened to the entire interview, so forgive me if touches on this, but it almost seems like he was semi-forced into retirement and is just sort of accepting it.
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I like that we are in an era where pros have a platform to discuss these things that , to my ins, in previous years have lately gone undiscussed.
I find it interesting that he brushes past quitting Chocolate in one sentence, although admittedly I haven’t listen to the whole shebang. What happened there? He was just “over it”. Why?
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Told you guys
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seems like such a brainless move tbh lol. aside from reynolds hes the 2nd biggest name on their team. is emerica familiar with the word streetwear? did carroll make a phonecall ?
I find it interesting that he brushes past quitting Chocolate in one sentence, although admittedly I haven’t listen to the whole shebang. What happened there? He was just “over it”. Why?
it probably has to do with the way MJ got kicked off.
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'i wanted to milk it but couldn't'
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Maybe Jerry isn't awesome to work with and didn't do his job? Generally, if your contract is breached you have legal standing to sue for loss of wages. However, if you breach your own contract you can be sued for not fulfilling your contractual obligations. You can also be dropped for "no reason".
As well, I know nothing about this situation and am running on full asshole assumption.
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I think he is a big whiny pussy. good skater though
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Maybe Jerry isn't awesome to work with and didn't do his job? Generally, if your contract is breached you have legal standing to sue for loss of wages. However, if you breach your own contract you can be sued for not fulfilling your contractual obligations. You can also be dropped for "no reason".
As well, I know nothing about this situation and am running on full asshole assumption.
Did you listen to the interview? He talks about how his contract was based in an at will state. That means, and he's correct, that as long as emerica had a legal justification, they could let him go at any time. and they did
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Haven't listened to the whole thing yet, but him acting like Sci-Fi Fantasy is difficult to run is insane. The most simple logos, fonts, etc. Illustrator? What does illustrator have to do with putting a word in the middle of a shirt?
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i could see him on cons
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Haven't listened to the whole thing yet, but him acting like Sci-Fi Fantasy is difficult to run is insane. The most simple logos, fonts, etc. Illustrator? What does illustrator have to do with putting a word in the middle of a shirt?
How easy is it to run your company?
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Haven't listened to the whole thing yet, but him acting like Sci-Fi Fantasy is difficult to run is insane. The most simple logos, fonts, etc. Illustrator? What does illustrator have to do with putting a word in the middle of a shirt?
How easy is it to run your company?
Well that would be different because it isn't an apparel company. Theres scheduling, employees, billing, and day to day operations, I think it might get a little too complicated for Jerry to run.
But I understand you defending him, I am a big fan of his Bag of Suck part, but come on. Every podcast has an apparel line, every skate shop sells their own shirts and boards. Him selling t shirts, hoodies, and hats, is not some insanely complicated business venture.
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Haven't listened to the whole thing yet, but him acting like Sci-Fi Fantasy is difficult to run is insane. The most simple logos, fonts, etc. Illustrator? What does illustrator have to do with putting a word in the middle of a shirt?
How easy is it to run your company?
Well that would be different because it isn't an apparel company. Theres scheduling, employees, billing, and day to day operations, I think it might get a little too complicated for Jerry to run.
But I understand you defending him, I am a big fan of his Bag of Suck part, but come on. Every podcast has an apparel line, every skate shop sells their own shirts and boards. Him selling t shirts, hoodies, and hats, is not some insanely complicated business venture.
It is insane to him,being he knows almost nothing of running a company. I remember Alex Olson complaining about having to learn illustrator for 917 and Bianca. These dudes just want to complain.
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Maybe Jerry isn't awesome to work with and didn't do his job? Generally, if your contract is breached you have legal standing to sue for loss of wages. However, if you breach your own contract you can be sued for not fulfilling your contractual obligations. You can also be dropped for "no reason".
As well, I know nothing about this situation and am running on full asshole assumption.
Did you listen to the interview? He talks about how his contract was based in an at will state. That means, and he's correct, that as long as emerica had a legal justification, they could let him go at any time. and they did
You mean like every other employee in the state of California?
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This convo is so boring, they need some Kratom to liven things up.
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Wonder if this has anything to do with Kader leaving? Seemed weird that he left.
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Haven't listened to the whole thing yet, but him acting like Sci-Fi Fantasy is difficult to run is insane. The most simple logos, fonts, etc. Illustrator? What does illustrator have to do with putting a word in the middle of a shirt?
How easy is it to run your company?
Well that would be different because it isn't an apparel company. Theres scheduling, employees, billing, and day to day operations, I think it might get a little too complicated for Jerry to run.
But I understand you defending him, I am a big fan of his Bag of Suck part, but come on. Every podcast has an apparel line, every skate shop sells their own shirts and boards. Him selling t shirts, hoodies, and hats, is not some insanely complicated business venture.
Complaining? That's a neurotic interpretation in Jerry's case. He admitted that he's inexperienced and it's a challenge, yet still open for business.
I can see Alex Olson throwing fits though ;D
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Maybe Jerry isn't awesome to work with and didn't do his job? Generally, if your contract is breached you have legal standing to sue for loss of wages. However, if you breach your own contract you can be sued for not fulfilling your contractual obligations. You can also be dropped for "no reason".
As well, I know nothing about this situation and am running on full asshole assumption.
Did you listen to the interview? He talks about how his contract was based in an at will state. That means, and he's correct, that as long as emerica had a legal justification, they could let him go at any time. and they did
Ever heard of a Union?
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Haven't listened to the whole thing yet, but him acting like Sci-Fi Fantasy is difficult to run is insane. The most simple logos, fonts, etc. Illustrator? What does illustrator have to do with putting a word in the middle of a shirt?
How easy is it to run your company?
Well that would be different because it isn't an apparel company. Theres scheduling, employees, billing, and day to day operations, I think it might get a little too complicated for Jerry to run.
But I understand you defending him, I am a big fan of his Bag of Suck part, but come on. Every podcast has an apparel line, every skate shop sells their own shirts and boards. Him selling t shirts, hoodies, and hats, is not some insanely complicated business venture.
Complaining? That's a neurotic interpretation in Jerry's case. He admitted that he's inexperienced and it's a challenge, yet still open for business.
I can see Alex Olson throwing fits though ;D
Well yea most def Olson whines more than Jerry. Jerry seems to live very casually
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Looks like he's putting in some serious work in art direction and originality into Sci Fi Fantasy in this add.
http://www.instagram.com/p/BojllpHlDNV/?hl=en&taken-by=sci.fi.fantasy
I don't know if it translates to tee shirt graphics yet, but he's just getting started.
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Maybe Jerry isn't awesome to work with and didn't do his job? Generally, if your contract is breached you have legal standing to sue for loss of wages. However, if you breach your own contract you can be sued for not fulfilling your contractual obligations. You can also be dropped for "no reason".
As well, I know nothing about this situation and am running on full asshole assumption.
Did you listen to the interview? He talks about how his contract was based in an at will state. That means, and he's correct, that as long as emerica had a legal justification, they could let him go at any time. and they did
Ever heard of a Union?
I have, and I’m a member of one. However, like most people, Jerry wasn’t.
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Maybe Jerry isn't awesome to work with and didn't do his job? Generally, if your contract is breached you have legal standing to sue for loss of wages. However, if you breach your own contract you can be sued for not fulfilling your contractual obligations. You can also be dropped for "no reason".
As well, I know nothing about this situation and am running on full asshole assumption.
Did you listen to the interview? He talks about how his contract was based in an at will state. That means, and he's correct, that as long as emerica had a legal justification, they could let him go at any time. and they did
Ever heard of a Union?
Not disputing that, just confused by your initial post implying that Unions don't exist in California...
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Sole Tech is in pretty dire straights. Consider how many people have left / contracts ended in the past 3 years. Emerica could use a slight rebrand, they've ran the same program forever.
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Maybe Jerry isn't awesome to work with and didn't do his job? Generally, if your contract is breached you have legal standing to sue for loss of wages. However, if you breach your own contract you can be sued for not fulfilling your contractual obligations. You can also be dropped for "no reason".
As well, I know nothing about this situation and am running on full asshole assumption.
Did you listen to the interview? He talks about how his contract was based in an at will state. That means, and he's correct, that as long as emerica had a legal justification, they could let him go at any time. and they did
I was in and out of it cause I was working at the same time. Didn't catch that part. God damn. I guess he needed Terry Kennedy's negotiator.
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Maybe Jerry isn't awesome to work with and didn't do his job? Generally, if your contract is breached you have legal standing to sue for loss of wages. However, if you breach your own contract you can be sued for not fulfilling your contractual obligations. You can also be dropped for "no reason".
As well, I know nothing about this situation and am running on full asshole assumption.
Did you listen to the interview? He talks about how his contract was based in an at will state. That means, and he's correct, that as long as emerica had a legal justification, they could let him go at any time. and they did
I was in and out of it cause I was working at the same time. Didn't catch that part. God damn. I guess he needed Terry Kennedy's negotiator.
He refused to wear emerica hats, contract breached.
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Looks like he's putting in some serious work in art direction and originality into Sci Fi Fantasy in this add.
http://www.instagram.com/p/BojllpHlDNV/?hl=en&taken-by=sci.fi.fantasy
I don't know if it translates to tee shirt graphics yet, but he's just getting started.
that peacock near the end was beautiful
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Looks like he's putting in some serious work in art direction and originality into Sci Fi Fantasy in this add.
http://www.instagram.com/p/BojllpHlDNV/?hl=en&taken-by=sci.fi.fantasy
I don't know if it translates to tee shirt graphics yet, but he's just getting started.
that peacock near the end was beautiful
Yes, that whole video was good
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where can i watch wet hot emerican summer it's not on youtube
I watched it on youtube and even had it saved in a playlist. It is now deleted from the site and I can't imagine why. Shit's weird. Anyhay, some person got you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PZ4zC0yKrE
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Wonder if this has anything to do with Kader leaving? Seemed weird that he left.
yeh its super weird that kader would go to a cooler company with a better team/legacy and more money
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Emerica used to be my go to shoe and was always one of my favorite companies overall, but that has quickly subsided in the past year. When Jerry got off that was honestly the moment I realized that I don't really like Emerica that much anymore.
Shoe sponsor or not, he's still one of my favorite skaters and I would love to buy a Sci-Fi hat or something if they wouldn't sell out in 30 seconds.
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emerica just posted this also.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Boo9GyIlr2j/?hl=en&taken-by=emerica
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emerica just posted this also.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Boo9GyIlr2j/?hl=en&taken-by=emerica
Ok
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emerica just posted this also.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Boo9GyIlr2j/?hl=en&taken-by=emerica
Ok
They're in Japan and Jerry is Chinese so it's a big fuck you to him historically speaking
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I'm gonna miss Emerica.
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i could see him on cons krooked
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I'm gonna miss Emerica.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYikyYL0S00
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Looks like he's putting in some serious work in art direction and originality into Sci Fi Fantasy in this add.
http://www.instagram.com/p/BojllpHlDNV/?hl=en&taken-by=sci.fi.fantasy
I don't know if it translates to tee shirt graphics yet, but he's just getting started.
that peacock near the end was beautiful
that whole video looked like a NVIDIA graphics card tech demo from the late 2000's
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2018 Jerry Hsu is strange.
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Looks like he's putting in some serious work in art direction and originality into Sci Fi Fantasy in this add.
http://www.instagram.com/p/BojllpHlDNV/?hl=en&taken-by=sci.fi.fantasy
I don't know if it translates to tee shirt graphics yet, but he's just getting started.
that peacock near the end was beautiful
but the peacock!
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(I know I’ll get hate for this opinion but whatever.) Love Jerry, but some of his points here are ridiculous and I don’t know if I blame Emerica honestly. “Oh they didn’t like how I don’t want to film video parts or really promote anything anymore” yeah no shit dude. What did he think he got paid for? To just sit around? At the end of the day they’re a skateboarding COMPANY, and they’re in the business to make money, and if you’re sending this guy checks every month who is doing nothing to grow your brand, you’re going to consider cutting ties. When he talks about how they brought an outside source to audit, that probably is what happened. The person probably looked at their business model and asked them “why are you paying this guy thousands of dollars every year to do nothing?” And “oh he’s a legend” isn’t a very good reason when things are getting dicey.
Jerry IS a legend and for sure deserves mass amounts of respect, but I’ve never gotten this wack belief in skateboarding that companies are “fucked ” or in the wrong somehow when they cut guys who are contributing essentially nothing to their business other than purely their name.
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Haven't listened to the whole thing yet, but him acting like Sci-Fi Fantasy is difficult to run is insane. The most simple logos, fonts, etc. Illustrator? What does illustrator have to do with putting a word in the middle of a shirt?
How easy is it to run your company?
Believe me, graphics, logos and fonts are probably 5% of having a company
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Haven't listened to the whole thing yet, but him acting like Sci-Fi Fantasy is difficult to run is insane. The most simple logos, fonts, etc. Illustrator? What does illustrator have to do with putting a word in the middle of a shirt?
How easy is it to run your company?
Believe me, graphics, logos and fonts are probably 5% of having a company
Definitely. I mean it's probably all overwhelming for him considering he's never had to work a "real job" before. While it's pretty straight forward clothing at this point from a graphic design standpoint, he's doing everything else required to run a brand. Usually design is outsourced anyways. I'm sure his inbox is always full, and he's the one dealing with everything from manufacturing and orders, to all the shipping and invoicing. All while trying to learn how to do each and every one of those tasks. He even mentioned he didn't know how to create an invoice. He is a skateboarder after all, and the majority of them have a 9-10th grade education at best, so there's a lot of basic stuff he's missing out on.
I wish him the best with this company, and plan to pick some gear up. Seems like he's doing well considering I went into the shop today to buy some and most items we're solid out despite it only being in stock for a few days.
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Fuck that, Jerry is a legend. Can't believe people still get mad at skaters for taking corporate shoe checks at this point.
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Damn with this, plus Westgate's Bunt interview from the other week, it seems like Emerica is about to go through the same shit Enjoi went through when Matt Eversole left. Westgate and Minor quit Emerica when the Brand Manager quit, feeling like something weird was happening with the brand, then Jerry gets let go shortly after by what I assume is the new Brand manager after they bring in an auditor to get a feel for the company.
Almost ironic since Jerry was in Westgate's position when the Enjoi switch happened.
I think it's safe to admit that Enjoi hasn't really been the same since that happened, for the worse IMO (barring turning Samarria pro). Hopefully the same decline doesn't start to happen with Emerica, but I could honestly see Reynolds actually switching to Adidas if Emerica doesn't get it's shit together, and that would absolutely put the nail in the coffin for Emerica.
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(I know I’ll get hate for this opinion but whatever.) Love Jerry, but some of his points here are ridiculous and I don’t know if I blame Emerica honestly. “Oh they didn’t like how I don’t want to film video parts or really promote anything anymore” yeah no shit dude. What did he think he got paid for? To just sit around? At the end of the day they’re a skateboarding COMPANY, and they’re in the business to make money, and if you’re sending this guy checks every month who is doing nothing to grow your brand, you’re going to consider cutting ties. When he talks about how they brought an outside source to audit, that probably is what happened. The person probably looked at their business model and asked them “why are you paying this guy thousands of dollars every year to do nothing?” And “oh he’s a legend” isn’t a very good reason when things are getting dicey.
Jerry IS a legend and for sure deserves mass amounts of respect, but I’ve never gotten this wack belief in skateboarding that companies are “fucked ” or in the wrong somehow when they cut guys who are contributing essentially nothing to their business other than purely their name.
You realize how stupid of an arguement that is? What does Michael Jordan do for your brands now? He doesn’t play basketball, he’s just a name. Nike would be fucking peanuts compared to what they are without his “name” and “presence”. Essentially u would imagine skateboarding companies would be inherently aware of it. Pontus some years ago talked about how every brand needs a legend to guide their image into the future with the modern landscape of skating.
Point and cases are:
FA-Dill,Ave,Gino- not that they don’t contribute heavily to their brand in a lot of ways, essentially at this point they are the names that guide the image.
Polar-Pontus
Baker-too many to name
Like the list is giant, and at the end of the day names sell products if they didn’t u wouldn’t give a fuck.
That’s why I fucking hate modern videos where they don’t at least have an introduction in some way for each rider, this ain’t like the good old days when they had way less companies and u could keep track of every team pretty fucking easily before the internet because it was always about the names, many companies these days just kind of have an image/aesthetic that most up and comers/no names just blend well together and that’s the “image” of the company, I think that’s why workshop mindfield /cinematographers era was amazing, not only did every rider fit the overall aesthetic, they also had unique individual aesthetics, you could say FA/Hockey are the best modern examples because u know everyone on their teams, and they all skate way different, I think genuinely the only video I ever enjoyed without names was cherry. That was genuinely nice, but those kids grew into their names as well.
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Haven't listened to the whole thing yet, but him acting like Sci-Fi Fantasy is difficult to run is insane. The most simple logos, fonts, etc. Illustrator? What does illustrator have to do with putting a word in the middle of a shirt?
vectors yo
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(I know I’ll get hate for this opinion but whatever.) Love Jerry, but some of his points here are ridiculous and I don’t know if I blame Emerica honestly. “Oh they didn’t like how I don’t want to film video parts or really promote anything anymore” yeah no shit dude. What did he think he got paid for? To just sit around? At the end of the day they’re a skateboarding COMPANY, and they’re in the business to make money, and if you’re sending this guy checks every month who is doing nothing to grow your brand, you’re going to consider cutting ties. When he talks about how they brought an outside source to audit, that probably is what happened. The person probably looked at their business model and asked them “why are you paying this guy thousands of dollars every year to do nothing?” And “oh he’s a legend” isn’t a very good reason when things are getting dicey.
Jerry IS a legend and for sure deserves mass amounts of respect, but I’ve never gotten this wack belief in skateboarding that companies are “fucked ” or in the wrong somehow when they cut guys who are contributing essentially nothing to their business other than purely their name.
You realize how stupid of an arguement that is? What does Michael Jordan do for your brands now? He doesn’t play basketball, he’s just a name. Nike would be fucking peanuts compared to what they are without his “name” and “presence”. Essentially u would imagine skateboarding companies would be inherently aware of it. Pontus some years ago talked about how every brand needs a legend to guide their image into the future with the modern landscape of skating.
Point and cases are:
FA-Dill,Ave,Gino- not that they don’t contribute heavily to their brand in a lot of ways, essentially at this point they are the names that guide the image.
Polar-Pontus
Baker-too many to name
Like the list is giant, and at the end of the day names sell products if they didn’t u wouldn’t give a fuck.
That’s why I fucking hate modern videos where they don’t at least have an introduction in some way for each rider, this ain’t like the good old days when they had way less companies and u could keep track of every team pretty fucking easily before the internet because it was always about the names, many companies these days just kind of have an image/aesthetic that most up and comers/no names just blend well together and that’s the “image” of the company, I think that’s why workshop mindfield /cinematographers era was amazing, not only did every rider fit the overall aesthetic, they also had unique individual aesthetics, you could say FA/Hockey are the best modern examples because u know everyone on their teams, and they all skate way different, I think genuinely the only video I ever enjoyed without names was cherry. That was genuinely nice, but those kids grew into their names as well.
Yeah, and they still bring in revenue for their companies ya fool. Whoever did the audit for Emerica must have concluded via the raw sales numbers that the money Jerry brought in from his name alone did not financially justify the money they were paying him if he wasn’t going to do more. Also, no one else will be known as their “legend” as long as Reynolds is there. People who grew up watching Jerry Hsu know how rad he is, but most younger kids probably feel indifferent or don’t know much about him because he’s done nothing recently, therefore his value in his name as a business asset has dropped massively in recent years. If anything thinks they let him go just to be “mean” they’re an idiot. They obviously had a reason. He wasn’t bringing in dollars, so they let him go. Simple as that. That’s business, and it doesn’t operate in the teenager fairy tale fantasy so many people live in where profits are irrelevant, and you keep people who don’t make you money because they’re “fuckin legends bro”
Nearly every one you mentioned still keeps themselves relevant somehow, and therefore still have value from a business standpoint. Dill is an absolute personality, AVE won’t SOTY relatively recently in 2015. Emerica concluded that in 2018, Jerry’s name didn’t attract enough business to justify the money they paid him. And when things are getting tight for a company like them, those are the tough decisions you have to make to survive. For example, this is why Crail is sinking imo, they keep people on who don’t do really jack shit other than collect a check every month, and have little relevance with the youth. That just doesn’t work. End of story.
And since you mention Baker, I won’t be shocked if they do another round of cuts again here soon. There are similar guys there in the same position.
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(I know I’ll get hate for this opinion but whatever.) Love Jerry, but some of his points here are ridiculous and I don’t know if I blame Emerica honestly. “Oh they didn’t like how I don’t want to film video parts or really promote anything anymore” yeah no shit dude. What did he think he got paid for? To just sit around? At the end of the day they’re a skateboarding COMPANY, and they’re in the business to make money, and if you’re sending this guy checks every month who is doing nothing to grow your brand, you’re going to consider cutting ties. When he talks about how they brought an outside source to audit, that probably is what happened. The person probably looked at their business model and asked them “why are you paying this guy thousands of dollars every year to do nothing?” And “oh he’s a legend” isn’t a very good reason when things are getting dicey.
Jerry IS a legend and for sure deserves mass amounts of respect, but I’ve never gotten this wack belief in skateboarding that companies are “fucked ” or in the wrong somehow when they cut guys who are contributing essentially nothing to their business other than purely their name.
I get where you're coming from, because I think there's definitely a lot of fat that needs to be trimmed from the skateboarding industry as a whole. But I think Jerry has done more than enough for the brand to, at the very least, not get totally shafted over a phone call as it appears has happened. He easily (imo) had the best part in their last full length, and his all-switch part is almost always the first thing that comes up whenever Stay Gold is discussed. He really put himself on the line for the brand for years, and he didn't even get so much as an Instagram send off to say thanks.
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Looks like he's putting in some serious work in art direction and originality into Sci Fi Fantasy in this add.
http://www.instagram.com/p/BojllpHlDNV/?hl=en&taken-by=sci.fi.fantasy
I don't know if it translates to tee shirt graphics yet, but he's just getting started.
that peacock near the end was beautiful
but the peacock!
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(I know I’ll get hate for this opinion but whatever.) Love Jerry, but some of his points here are ridiculous and I don’t know if I blame Emerica honestly. “Oh they didn’t like how I don’t want to film video parts or really promote anything anymore” yeah no shit dude. What did he think he got paid for? To just sit around? At the end of the day they’re a skateboarding COMPANY, and they’re in the business to make money, and if you’re sending this guy checks every month who is doing nothing to grow your brand, you’re going to consider cutting ties. When he talks about how they brought an outside source to audit, that probably is what happened. The person probably looked at their business model and asked them “why are you paying this guy thousands of dollars every year to do nothing?” And “oh he’s a legend” isn’t a very good reason when things are getting dicey.
Jerry IS a legend and for sure deserves mass amounts of respect, but I’ve never gotten this wack belief in skateboarding that companies are “fucked ” or in the wrong somehow when they cut guys who are contributing essentially nothing to their business other than purely their name.
Jerry seemed pretty realistic about the situation himself. He even admitted that he didn't do "as much" for the company but it also seemed like Emerica didn't really ask him to do a whole lot and he was doing the bare minimum to fulfill his obligations. Seems like he was pissed at first because it came so suddenly.
But either way, from a business standpoint, cutting Jerry from the team will save the company money without sacrificing much off sales.
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Someone needs to tell Jerry to quit being so Yellow because This Is Skateboarding and you just can't Stay Gold forever and fuckin Kids in Emerica too and fuck it Made 1 and 2 I'm regular.
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(I know I’ll get hate for this opinion but whatever.) Love Jerry, but some of his points here are ridiculous and I don’t know if I blame Emerica honestly. “Oh they didn’t like how I don’t want to film video parts or really promote anything anymore” yeah no shit dude. What did he think he got paid for? To just sit around? At the end of the day they’re a skateboarding COMPANY, and they’re in the business to make money, and if you’re sending this guy checks every month who is doing nothing to grow your brand, you’re going to consider cutting ties. When he talks about how they brought an outside source to audit, that probably is what happened. The person probably looked at their business model and asked them “why are you paying this guy thousands of dollars every year to do nothing?” And “oh he’s a legend” isn’t a very good reason when things are getting dicey.
Jerry IS a legend and for sure deserves mass amounts of respect, but I’ve never gotten this wack belief in skateboarding that companies are “fucked ” or in the wrong somehow when they cut guys who are contributing essentially nothing to their business other than purely their name.
Jerry seemed pretty realistic about the situation himself. He even admitted that he didn't do "as much" for the company but it also seemed like Emerica didn't really ask him to do a whole lot and he was doing the bare minimum to fulfill his obligations. Seems like he was pissed at first because it came so suddenly.
But either way, from a business standpoint, cutting Jerry from the team will save the company money without sacrificing much off sales.
I don't know about that, Jerry with his Sci.fy stuff being sold at Supreme/in supreme video, 150K instagram followers, his art stuff etc, I'm surprised they dropped him because he seems like one of the guys that had a decent reach outside of just skating.
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Someone needs to tell Jerry to quit being so Yellow because This Is Skateboarding and you just can't Stay Gold forever and fuckin Kids in Emerica too and fuck it Made 1 and 2 I'm regular.
All puns aside you have been reported
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There's no way Sole Tech is around much longer.
I never see eS or Etnies in the wild. See barely any Emerica. Sucks, they were so big in my formative years- especially eS and Emerica. Those teams (eS - Koston,McCrank,Ladd,Penny,Saari,P Rod, Rodrigo TX ; Emerica - Reynolds, Kirchart, Templeton, Herman, Spanky, Suski, Townend, Ellington) were so stacked and the videos (Menikmati and This is Skateboarding) were heavy. I loved Accels back in the day, and the Reynolds series has been legendary.
Jerry Hsu's departure is just another sign of the impending doom.
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Someone needs to tell Jerry to quit being so Yellow because This Is Skateboarding and you just can't Stay Gold forever and fuckin Kids in Emerica too and fuck it Made 1 and 2 I'm regular.
Jerry just lives life like it's a bag of suck
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Jerry, if you're reading this- for lord's sake use a drop shipper. Packing small boxes is the biggest time suck for a small business, and we'd all rather see a skate clip.
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emerica just posted this also.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Boo9GyIlr2j/?hl=en&taken-by=emerica
Ok
They're in Japan and Jerry is Chinese so it's a big fuck you to him historically speaking
This is the only good part about this thread.
If he really wants to milk it, he should just get on one of Dill’s companies and get pro-flow from Nike/CONS.
“Sci-Fi Fantasy,” seems like something a librarian, or someone into LOTR/GOT/SW porn, would wear.
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I’m a fan of his but this dude he rested on his laurels and/or over estimated his worth. I’m not happy he lost a big chunk of his income but the bottom line is if you don’t do put out the work, you quit a major sponsor like Chocolate, and your shoe doesn’t sell, they don’t need you.
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I’m a fan of his but this dude rested on his laurels and/or over estimated his worth. I’m not happy he lost a big chunk of his income but the bottom line is if you don’t do put out the work, you quit a major sponsor like Chocolate, and you shoe doesn’t sell, they don’t need you.
His shoe sold well and emerica fucked it, dude put out multiple basically only switch parts and did one of the gnarliest tricks on a rail ever and leaving the crailtap camp is a good move for anyone on there. Fuck are you talking about . Id go as far as to say the hsu was one of the most iconic shoes emerica had next to the Reynolds 3 to my generation of skaters. If emerica wants to shoot them selves in the foot and drop him and keep that Neanderthal 2006 flow level kid Zach Allen all I have to say is die slow, you deserve it.
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fulltechnicalsnitchy over here
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they gotta get one of the Top Female SK8ers and start a "Miss Emerica" Pageant/contest
i bet that would Trigger the Snow Flakes tho......
haaashtag #missemerica not miss as in miss...you get it
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Someone needs to tell Jerry to quit being so Yellow because This Is Skateboarding and you just can't Stay Gold forever and fuckin Kids in Emerica too and fuck it Made 1 and 2 I'm regular.
fuckin little bitch
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they gotta get one of the Top Female SK8ers and start a "Miss Emerica" Pageant/contest
i bet that would Trigger the Snow Flakes tho......
haaashtag #missemerica not miss as in miss...you get it
how dare you tarnish the name of david spade like this you fucking hoeboi
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(I know I’ll get hate for this opinion but whatever.) Love Jerry, but some of his points here are ridiculous and I don’t know if I blame Emerica honestly. “Oh they didn’t like how I don’t want to film video parts or really promote anything anymore” yeah no shit dude. What did he think he got paid for? To just sit around? At the end of the day they’re a skateboarding COMPANY, and they’re in the business to make money, and if you’re sending this guy checks every month who is doing nothing to grow your brand, you’re going to consider cutting ties. When he talks about how they brought an outside source to audit, that probably is what happened. The person probably looked at their business model and asked them “why are you paying this guy thousands of dollars every year to do nothing?” And “oh he’s a legend” isn’t a very good reason when things are getting dicey.
Jerry IS a legend and for sure deserves mass amounts of respect, but I’ve never gotten this wack belief in skateboarding that companies are “fucked ” or in the wrong somehow when they cut guys who are contributing essentially nothing to their business other than purely their name.
Jerry seemed pretty realistic about the situation himself. He even admitted that he didn't do "as much" for the company but it also seemed like Emerica didn't really ask him to do a whole lot and he was doing the bare minimum to fulfill his obligations. Seems like he was pissed at first because it came so suddenly.
But either way, from a business standpoint, cutting Jerry from the team will save the company money without sacrificing much off sales.
I don't know about that, Jerry with his Sci.fy stuff being sold at Supreme/in supreme video, 150K instagram followers, his art stuff etc, I'm surprised they dropped him because he seems like one of the guys that had a decent reach outside of just skating.
How much of these people are actually going out and buying emericas? The people I usually see wearing his sci fi fantasy stuff is either wearing cons or don't skate at all.
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I say this with full sincerity: I can’t believe jerry has no shoe sponsor right now. And if he wasn’t trying to do his own thing, Toy machine would be lucky to have him. I don’t see Jerry being hyped to jump in the van with Sinclair, but a Jerry on Toy could be rad. To me, that Sci Fi Fantasy ad seems like an ironic take on late 90s/early 00s computer mania, and I like it
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i dont get how this guy doesnt have a shoe or board sponsor unless he just doesnt care about it anymore or is a huge pain in the ass to work for. his company is the blandest, not special shit ever, and it sells like crazy because its his. that alone should show his value to other companies. i just dont get it.
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I’m a fan of his but this dude rested on his laurels and/or over estimated his worth. I’m not happy he lost a big chunk of his income but the bottom line is if you don’t do put out the work, you quit a major sponsor like Chocolate, and you shoe doesn’t sell, they don’t need you.
His shoe sold well and emerica fucked it, dude put out multiple basically only switch parts and did one of the gnarliest tricks on a rail ever and leaving the crailtap camp is a good move for anyone on there. Fuck are you talking about . Id go as far as to say the hsu was one of the most iconic shoes emerica had next to the Reynolds 3 to my generation of skaters. If emerica wants to shoot them selves in the foot and drop him and keep that Neanderthal 2006 flow level kid Zach Allen all I have to say is die slow, you deserve it.
If his shoe sold well, they wouldn’t have kicked him off
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Jerry is a poosey
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Jerry had the best part in Made 2
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anybody really into jerry has enough taste to never buy something as shitty as a pair of emericas. he should've left forever ago for cons or vans.
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Uhh why is everybody saying he had it coming because he “wasn’t putting in work” or filming? He had a great full part in his 30’s in Made 2 not too long ago at all.
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anybody really into jerry has enough taste to never buy something as shitty as a pair of emericas. he should've left forever ago for cons or vans.
was gonna say this in a less harsh/elitist way, but pretty much. i dont think the crossover is there for his crowd and emerica.
does anyone have a link to his made 2 part? can only find the b sides
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Sole Tech had its run. Nike and Adidas came in and capitalized on Sole Tech's mistakes and it doesn't appear that they're ever going to recover. Sole Tech appears to be resistant to change, the top brass doesn't seem to take advice very well, and their image is stuck in the early 2000s. Also, they over-rely on distributors and don't know what is going on abroad.
I don't understand why they didn't start a new brand with a younger dude a long time ago. Instead of letting Don Brown restart eS with Walker Ryan, Ryan Lay, etc. on the team, why not encourage Walker or Ryan to come up with something new and fun? It is crazy how many people have been part of the Sole Tech camp that they didn't support well enough. (Pontus and Chris Milic are the first to come to my mind.)
As for Jerry, I think the dude deserves some support on the way out (if things are winding down for him). Hopefully, he can pull things off with his own company or transition into photography. Shit, I still back the idea of union that provides some transition services to dudes on their way out of a skate career.
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Shit, I still back the idea of union that provides some transition services to dudes on their way out of a skate career.
Jerry was thriving during the THPS boom of the early 2000's and has had many pro shoes. If he needs a union to transition out of making good money for 15 odd years while he settles into adult life then you might wanna set up a union to help him tie his shoelaces each morning.
pro skaters either make great money or shit money and for most the run ends in their late 20's to mid 30's. Many everyday skaters will work bar jobs or at skate shops to avoid responsibility so they can skate and live a carefree lifestyle into their late twenties before realising its time to get their shit together and spend some solid time working their way up the ladder, a few rungs below their co-workers.
At least a pro of Jerrys nature can fall back on his Vice hook ups and his rep/name. Fuck, he already began the phase out himself the last 5 or so years with his photography and L.A. hipster connects.
HE WILL BE JUST FINE
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It sounds like they dropped him with no prior notice or warning, which isn't right because he put in a lot of work with Emerica and he really is one of the defining pros of nearly the past two decades. And as mentioned, his Made part wasn't even that long ago. It's depressing that him and Jeremy Wray and others have done so much and yet don't get the treatment they deserve.
Was intriguing how Jerry said his friends ask him to sell stuff at Supreme, and he'll have tricks in Blessed, and then later on he says the vibe of Supreme is gross. But he's 36, he should say exactly what's on his mind.
Also I like this podcast, it's intelligent.
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As of right now if he has no board or shoe sponsor and his Sci-Fi stuff sells out immediately there isn't really all that much people can do to support him. That being said I never owned a pair of his shoes on emerica or had a Jerry board so it's more of a too little too late problem for me.
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From the small part I listened to, seems to me like Jerry just doesn't really want to be on other peoples time anymore.
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Looks like he's putting in some serious work in art direction and originality into Sci Fi Fantasy in this add.
http://www.instagram.com/p/BojllpHlDNV/?hl=en&taken-by=sci.fi.fantasy
I don't know if it translates to tee shirt graphics yet, but he's just getting started.
that peacock near the end was beautiful
I love Jerry as much as the next guy but this clip is dog shit.
Funnily enough I bought a pair of Reynolds 3 Emericas yesterday. Wore them to work today, very comfy.
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Am I the only one imagining close fisted light wristed Jerry in fat half cabs and loose pants on a blue/red toy monster logo board doing fakie backwards shit down hubbas in gratuitous slow motion to genesis 12a? DUH duh duh NAH nuh duh nuh na NAH NA...
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I saw a Maple board at Target the other day, maybe they will take him back on
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I saw a Maple board at Target the other day, maybe they will take him back on
https://www.instagram.com/p/h1IClaMoDM/?taken-by=internetfamous (https://www.instagram.com/p/h1IClaMoDM/?taken-by=internetfamous)
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does anyone have a link to his made 2 part? can only find the b sides
I had to watch a minute of some pretty crazy KFC ad first, but Made 2 is up on youtube's non-union Chinese equivalent.
https://v.qq.com/x/page/e03599nhr27.html
Jerry's part is at about 25:00.
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ITT
https://youtu.be/h4wKlrCEmzE
Gee, stop overreacting so much. Calm down.
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Could see him on business & co. Him and MJ work well together. Two people who are literally better than everyone in every way... ;D
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I thought his comments about how videos don't really sell shit were good.
The last video I remember that really moved product was Cherry with Cons/Chucks. And I don't even think that was totally on purpose either.
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i dont get how this guy doesnt have a shoe or board sponsor unless he just doesnt care about it anymore or is a huge pain in the ass to work for. his company is the blandest, not special shit ever, and it sells like crazy because its his. that alone should show his value to other companies. i just dont get it.
u didnt even listen to this podcast at all did u
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Imagine you go out of your way to back legit skateboard brands, like emerica vs. signing with big shoe and you end up where Jerry is. Or Marc if you're lucky.
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Imagine you go out of your way to back legit skateboard brands, like emerica vs. signing with big shoe and you end up where Jerry is. Or Marc if you're lucky.
this. the notion that "skater owned brands" somehow have superior ethics is laughable.
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Makes me feel better about the Scifi Fantasy hoodie I copped on Friday
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This interview alone probably boosted sales of Nike, cons and adidas
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where can i watch wet hot emerican summer it's not on youtube
you dont want to watch it, no jerry hsu
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Imagine you go out of your way to back legit skateboard brands, like emerica vs. signing with big shoe and you end up where Jerry is. Or Marc if you're lucky.
this. the notion that "skater owned brands" somehow have superior ethics is laughable.
Ocean Howell did an interview where he briefly discusses skate business ethics and how skate brands were expected to make some decisions that didn't directly support the bottom line. Sadly, the interview is from 14 years ago, and I feel the days he was discussing are long gone.
https://skateboarding.transworld.net/news/skateboarding-though-corporate-america-we-are-inefficient-and-proud/
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i dont get how this guy doesnt have a shoe or board sponsor unless he just doesnt care about it anymore or is a huge pain in the ass to work for. his company is the blandest, not special shit ever, and it sells like crazy because its his. that alone should show his value to other companies. i just dont get it.
correct i didnt. i figured someone would have already addressed those points. i listened now though and yeah he just doesnt care about being sponsored and doesnt need it financially since he already prepared for life after skating. isnt complaining seriously about anything. hes doing everything right it seems.
that interview made me like him more.
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It's going to be strange when Emerica is gone..
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Someone needs to tell Jerry to quit being so Yellow because This Is Skateboarding and you just can't Stay Gold forever and fuckin Kids in Emerica too and fuck it Made 1 and 2 I'm regular.
probably knows his career path is subject to change.
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Sponsorship wise, Jerry should still be coasting off the Made 2 part through 2019 even though the song/edit did him no favors. Shit was comparable to what AVE did in Propeller if you consider career length/industry status.
I thought the same thing. Shit only came out 2 years ago and is more recent than say Propeller. I think emerica picked one vet pro to hang on to and Jerry wasn't it. He seems like he's doing fine and maybe it was better that he spent his remaining relevance on his own brand rather than someone else's.
Also fuck drop shipping that shit's corny.
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Sponsorship wise, Jerry should still be coasting off the Made 2 part through 2019 even though the song/edit did him no favors. Shit was comparable to what AVE did in Propeller if you consider career length/industry status.
Honestly, one or two fillers aside, that part was probably the best thing Jerry did since bag of suck, does not get the credit it deserves.
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I'm a Jerry fan, but truth be told he was always rocking other brands shoes (Converse etc) so I wouldn't blame Emerica for this. Pretty sure if Lebron was seen rocking Adidas that there would be problems. If you are sponsored paid and under contract to wear Emerica then you cant wear the competition's shoes...period. This should end this discussion
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Emerica shutting down?
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Sponsorship wise, Jerry should still be coasting off the Made 2 part through 2019 even though the song/edit did him no favors. Shit was comparable to what AVE did in Propeller if you consider career length/industry status.
Honestly, one or two fillers aside, that part was probably the best thing Jerry did since bag of suck, does not get the credit it deserves.
Completely forgot his part in Made 2 existed. Just rewatched and holy shit the song/edit doesn't do his skating any justice. I long for the days before music rights became an issue.
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Someone needs to tell Jerry to quit being so Yellow because This Is Skateboarding and you just can't Stay Gold forever and fuckin Kids in Emerica too and fuck it Made 1 and 2 I'm regular.
probably knows his career path is subject to change.
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Someone needs to tell Jerry to quit being so Yellow because This Is Skateboarding and you just can't Stay Gold forever and fuckin Kids in Emerica too and fuck it Made 1 and 2 I'm regular.
probably knows his career path is subject to change.
i just hope he can weather the storm
Depends how many black cats cross his path
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Is there ever an inappropriate time to post this? Jerry should be doing well from the t-shirt royalties for at least the next few years.
But on a serious note, I t’s very sad that Emerica did that to him. Hope he can bounce back!
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Someone needs to tell Jerry to quit being so Yellow because This Is Skateboarding and you just can't Stay Gold forever and fuckin Kids in Emerica too and fuck it Made 1 and 2 I'm regular.
probably knows his career path is subject to change.
i just hope he can weather the storm
In good times or bad, Jerry will always stay gold.
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Sponsorship wise, Jerry should still be coasting off the Made 2 part through 2019 even though the song/edit did him no favors. Shit was comparable to what AVE did in Propeller if you consider career length/industry status.
Honestly, one or two fillers aside, that part was probably the best thing Jerry did since bag of suck, does not get the credit it deserves.
Completely forgot his part in Made 2 existed. Just rewatched and holy shit the song/edit doesn't do his skating any justice. I long for the days before music rights became an issue.
Doesn't he have a Mogwai track?
On this note, how is it possibly in the interest of a brand like Emerica not to put their videos online? Is it a music licensing issue? I'd be super keen to watch Made 2 but it doesn't seem to be online. If I were running a company, I would want all our video productions easily available online in HD (or good quality). Whats the point of making a video if its not accessible? No one is buying hard copies these days.
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You’re all smoking crack if you didn’t enjoy that Mogwai song.
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Sponsorship wise, Jerry should still be coasting off the Made 2 part through 2019 even though the song/edit did him no favors. Shit was comparable to what AVE did in Propeller if you consider career length/industry status.
Honestly, one or two fillers aside, that part was probably the best thing Jerry did since bag of suck, does not get the credit it deserves.
Completely forgot his part in Made 2 existed. Just rewatched and holy shit the song/edit doesn't do his skating any justice. I long for the days before music rights became an issue.
Doesn't he have a Mogwai track?
On this note, how is it possibly in the interest of a brand like Emerica not to put their videos online? Is it a music licensing issue? I'd be super keen to watch Made 2 but it doesn't seem to be online. If I were running a company, I would want all our video productions easily available online in HD (or good quality). Whats the point of making a video if its not accessible? No one is buying hard copies these days.
There are still people buying hard copies like myself, but I would buy it anyway even if it was on YouTube.
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Is there ever an inappropriate time to post this? Jerry should be doing well from the t-shirt royalties for at least the next few years.
But on a serious note, I t’s very sad that Emerica did that to him. Hope he can bounce back!
Hahaha^^^^ never forget
I really want to know if anybody bought one of those shirts.
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Sponsorship wise, Jerry should still be coasting off the Made 2 part through 2019 even though the song/edit did him no favors. Shit was comparable to what AVE did in Propeller if you consider career length/industry status.
Honestly, one or two fillers aside, that part was probably the best thing Jerry did since bag of suck, does not get the credit it deserves.
Completely forgot his part in Made 2 existed. Just rewatched and holy shit the song/edit doesn't do his skating any justice. I long for the days before music rights became an issue.
Doesn't he have a Mogwai track?
On this note, how is it possibly in the interest of a brand like Emerica not to put their videos online? Is it a music licensing issue? I'd be super keen to watch Made 2 but it doesn't seem to be online. If I were running a company, I would want all our video productions easily available online in HD (or good quality). Whats the point of making a video if its not accessible? No one is buying hard copies these days.
iTunes paywall homie. It's where a lot of the bigger budget videos go and yeah keeping it there forever is so fucking stupid that it's probably a contractual thing with Apple.
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Sponsorship wise, Jerry should still be coasting off the Made 2 part through 2019 even though the song/edit did him no favors. Shit was comparable to what AVE did in Propeller if you consider career length/industry status.
Corporate or core brand…
If the rider is lazy and don't promote the brand, which is his job, he can get fired.
Maybe point the finger on Jerry instead of blaming the companies trying to run a business.
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I think it's kinda crazy that Jerry would get the boot, all the while Spanky has another shoe on the way. I like both skaters but an aging Jerry Hsu is still a far better skater than Spanky. He was still getting covers and everything.
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Emericas are shit shoes anyways so I'm happy for him
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I find it hard to believe that Emerica did him dirty or whatever. they gave him a ton of chances to try to fulfill his contractual obligations for them, and he was pretty much over it. just sucks that he's kind of throwing shade on them, when in reality they kept him on as long as they could justify.
like if you're really depending on Emerica checks to finance your life but you don't want to play the whole social media game for them, at least work with the TM or brand manager to work out a schedule of the "bare minimum" they expect you to do.
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Someone needs to tell Jerry to quit being so Yellow because This Is Skateboarding and you just can't Stay Gold forever and fuckin Kids in Emerica too and fuck it Made 1 and 2 I'm regular.
probably knows his career path is subject to change.
i just hope he can weather the storm
In good times or bad, Jerry will always stay gold.
I already said that dude
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Someone needs to tell Jerry to quit being so Yellow because This Is Skateboarding and you just can't Stay Gold forever and fuckin Kids in Emerica too and fuck it Made 1 and 2 I'm regular.
probably knows his career path is subject to change.
i just hope he can weather the storm
In good times or bad, Jerry will always stay gold.
I already said that dude
well damn it, another Man Down that i liked over at emerica, after Bryan Herman.
i hope Jerry gets to Tweak The Beef and comes back with a carrer Bonus Round.
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Hope when he dies, no one says welcome to hell
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wow you would rather he just go to hell without even a friendly welcome before he burns for eternity thats fucked up
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wow you would rather he just go to hell without even a friendly welcome before he burns for eternity thats fucked up
No dude I want him to go to sk8 heaven after a long and healthy life brah
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Someone needs to tell Jerry to quit being so Yellow because This Is Skateboarding and you just can't Stay Gold forever and fuckin Kids in Emerica too and fuck it Made 1 and 2 I'm regular.
probably knows his career path is subject to change.
i just hope he can weather the storm
In good times or bad, Jerry will always stay gold.
I already said that dude
Ah, shit. The writing was too small in the quote.
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It looks like they have already found his replacement.
(https://www.justme.ws/pics/groups2/17919_2018_2.jpg)
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people always say certain pros deserve to get paid to not do a whole lot because of their legacy. why not jerry hsu? what about someone like ba who rides for anti-hero and nike but barely puts out footage these days?
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people always say certain pros deserve to get paid to not do a whole lot because of their legacy. why not jerry hsu? what about someone like ba who rides for anti-hero and nike but barely puts out footage these days?
Isn’t the only deciding factor if people want to buy stuff with their name on it? Capitalism kind of takes the “deserve” out of the equation.
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people always say certain pros deserve to get paid to not do a whole lot because of their legacy. why not jerry hsu? what about someone like ba who rides for anti-hero and nike but barely puts out footage these days?
Because BA’s name alone brings those companies enough revenue to justify paying him. Emerica looked at the numbers, and must have saw that Jerry’s name doesn’t. Therefore if he’s not going to film or promote anything, and his name alone isn’t bringing you that much revenue, then there’s no real financial reason to keep him around and pay him.
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people always say certain pros deserve to get paid to not do a whole lot because of their legacy. why not jerry hsu? what about someone like ba who rides for anti-hero and nike but barely puts out footage these days?
Because BA’s name alone brings those companies enough revenue to justify paying him. Emerica looked at the numbers, and must have saw that Jerry’s name doesn’t. Therefore if he’s not going to film or promote anything, and his name alone isn’t bringing you that much revenue, then there’s no real financial reason to keep him around and pay him.
another slap clairvoyant.
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people always say certain pros deserve to get paid to not do a whole lot because of their legacy. why not jerry hsu? what about someone like ba who rides for anti-hero and nike but barely puts out footage these days?
Because BA’s name alone brings those companies enough revenue to justify paying him. Emerica looked at the numbers, and must have saw that Jerry’s name doesn’t. Therefore if he’s not going to film or promote anything, and his name alone isn’t bringing you that much revenue, then there’s no real financial reason to keep him around and pay him.
another slap clairvoyant.
Well yeah, should have said “BA’s name probably brings enough revenue”
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Sponsorship wise, Jerry should still be coasting off the Made 2 part through 2019 even though the song/edit did him no favors. Shit was comparable to what AVE did in Propeller if you consider career length/industry status.
Honestly, one or two fillers aside, that part was probably the best thing Jerry did since bag of suck, does not get the credit it deserves.
Completely forgot his part in Made 2 existed. Just rewatched and holy shit the song/edit doesn't do his skating any justice. I long for the days before music rights became an issue.
Doesn't he have a Mogwai track?
On this note, how is it possibly in the interest of a brand like Emerica not to put their videos online? Is it a music licensing issue? I'd be super keen to watch Made 2 but it doesn't seem to be online. If I were running a company, I would want all our video productions easily available online in HD (or good quality). Whats the point of making a video if its not accessible? No one is buying hard copies these days.
iTunes paywall homie. It's where a lot of the bigger budget videos go and yeah keeping it there forever is so fucking stupid that it's probably a contractual thing with Apple.
Ah I totally forgot that iTunes is even a thing. I've always been access for free or hard copy purchase.
Maybe it is contractual to keep it on iTunes? It would make a lot more sense to put it up for sale for the first 6 months if they're looking to recoup some costs (seems a bit unrealistic for a brand like Emerica) and then put it up online for free as a promotional tool. I wonder how many people have actually purchased Made 2 in the last 6 months? You'd think anyone who was going to do so would do so in the period immediately after the release.
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Sponsorship wise, Jerry should still be coasting off the Made 2 part through 2019 even though the song/edit did him no favors. Shit was comparable to what AVE did in Propeller if you consider career length/industry status.
Honestly, one or two fillers aside, that part was probably the best thing Jerry did since bag of suck, does not get the credit it deserves.
Completely forgot his part in Made 2 existed. Just rewatched and holy shit the song/edit doesn't do his skating any justice. I long for the days before music rights became an issue.
Doesn't he have a Mogwai track?
On this note, how is it possibly in the interest of a brand like Emerica not to put their videos online? Is it a music licensing issue? I'd be super keen to watch Made 2 but it doesn't seem to be online. If I were running a company, I would want all our video productions easily available online in HD (or good quality). Whats the point of making a video if its not accessible? No one is buying hard copies these days.
iTunes paywall homie. It's where a lot of the bigger budget videos go and yeah keeping it there forever is so fucking stupid that it's probably a contractual thing with Apple.
It's here:
https://www.redbull.com/int-en/tv/video/AP-1QVDTV2DS1W11/made-chapter-two?playlist=AP-1QVQ996DN1W11
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Sponsorship wise, Jerry should still be coasting off the Made 2 part through 2019 even though the song/edit did him no favors. Shit was comparable to what AVE did in Propeller if you consider career length/industry status.
Corporate or core brand…
If the rider is lazy and don't promote the brand, which is his job, he can get fired.
Maybe point the finger on Jerry instead of blaming the companies trying to run a business.
youre joking right?
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Sponsorship wise, Jerry should still be coasting off the Made 2 part through 2019 even though the song/edit did him no favors. Shit was comparable to what AVE did in Propeller if you consider career length/industry status.
Corporate or core brand…
If the rider is lazy and don't promote the brand, which is his job, he can get fired.
Maybe point the finger on Jerry instead of blaming the companies trying to run a business.
there's no joke.
In your opinion what is Jerry's job ?
He's one of my favourite but i don't see what's wrong with letting him go if he doesn't do what he's paid for...
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Sponsorship wise, Jerry should still be coasting off the Made 2 part through 2019 even though the song/edit did him no favors. Shit was comparable to what AVE did in Propeller if you consider career length/industry status.
Corporate or core brand…
If the rider is lazy and don't promote the brand, which is his job, he can get fired.
Maybe point the finger on Jerry instead of blaming the companies trying to run a business.
there's no joke.
In your opinion what is Jerry's job ?
He's one of my favourite but i don't see what's wrong with letting him go if he doesn't do what he's paid for...
skateboarding =/= promoting
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The real crime here is that Chocolate let him go via a fucking Instagram story 😤
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Didn't he say that he quit Chocolate a year ago?
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Thanks for the Red bull link. I thought watched Made2 when it first came out, but definitely didn't. Half way through it this morning. Sad watching Herm and Jerry's parts though.
Did emerica not want Jerry doing his own clothes? With SciFi Fantasy seeking to gain popularity, you'd think they'd way to be attached somewhat to Jerry, but maybe that's small potatoes to them
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Did emerica not want Jerry doing his own clothes? With SciFi Fantasy seeking to gain popularity, you'd think they'd way to be attached somewhat to Jerry, but maybe that's small potatoes to them
i don't think that was the issue, as when asked by the interviewer about whether or not jerry's emerica contract had any sort of non-compete clause, jerry said that smaller companies like sole tech wouldn't really consider those types of things. those types of contracts are typically reserved for the bigger corporations (which is why i think we see a lot of the nike dudes decked out in the swoosh from head to toe).
as a side note, i kind of liked how the interviewer only slightly knew how things worked in the skate industry. it made for what i thought were some awkwardly funny moments. like when he was genuinely surprised that a majority skaters eventually lose all their sponsors - that was pretty funny. he's like, what? really? why don't people just do like cab and age gracefully into skateboarding throughout their 40s and 50s? and jerry was like, yeah, :o, let's just all have an iconic shoe and an untouchable legacy.
also liked the anecdote from the interviewer about how, as a little kid, he and his friends once bumped into marc johnson and asked him if they could film him say a little something for an intro to their homie vid. and mj was just like straight up - "no." lol. and jerry was like, yeah, marc has many different moods.
edit: was also bummed to hear jerry say that he could have gone into a lot more detail on the stories he told during his nine club interview, but that the dudes never really asked any follow up questions. that's stephanie tanner-ish.
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Did emerica not want Jerry doing his own clothes? With SciFi Fantasy seeking to gain popularity, you'd think they'd way to be attached somewhat to Jerry, but maybe that's small potatoes to them
i don't think that was the issue, as when asked by the interviewer about whether or not jerry's emerica contract had any sort of non-compete clause, jerry said that smaller companies like sole tech wouldn't really consider those types of things. those types of contracts are typically reserved for the bigger corporations (which is why i think we see a lot of the nike dudes decked out in the swoosh from head to toe).
as a side note, i kind of liked how the interviewer only slightly knew how things worked in the skate industry. it made for what i thought were some awkwardly funny moments. like when he was genuinely surprised that a majority skaters eventually lose all their sponsors - that was pretty funny. he's like, what? really? why don't people just do like cab and age gracefully into skateboarding throughout their 40s and 50s? and jerry was like, yeah, :o, let's just all have an iconic shoe and an untouchable legacy.
also liked the anecdote from the interviewer about how, as a little kid, he and his friends once bumped into marc johnson and asked him if they could film him say a little something for an intro to their homie vid. and mj was just like straight up - "no." lol. and jerry was like, yeah, marc has many different moods.
edit: was also bummed to hear jerry say that he could have gone into a lot more detail on the stories he told during his nine club interview, but that the dudes never really asked any follow up questions. that's stephanie tanner-ish.
(http://media.tumblr.com/a63a5f5d5a30e63ad35b8c848d7bdfcc/tumblr_inline_mox0kuCmMZ1qz4rgp.gif)
i thought this was really interesting too. it really puts into perspective why we need other interview podcasts besides 9 club. i like 9 club well enough but this was way better.
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I think being a pro then not having any sponsors would be awesome. No pressure to one up yourself and all the kids. Wear whatever you want. I respect Jerry for not chasing and begging for new sponsors.
In my opinion if you have that much free time and are getting paid to skate and aren't smart enough to save money and use your time to learn useful skills, then you deserve to start a GoFundMe to pay your electrical bill.
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That podcast was great. The poster above me saying that the host knew *just* enough about skating nailed it.
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people always say certain pros deserve to get paid to not do a whole lot because of their legacy. why not jerry hsu? what about someone like ba who rides for anti-hero and nike but barely puts out footage these days?
Because BA’s name alone brings those companies enough revenue to justify paying him. Emerica looked at the numbers, and must have saw that Jerry’s name doesn’t. Therefore if he’s not going to film or promote anything, and his name alone isn’t bringing you that much revenue, then there’s no real financial reason to keep him around and pay him.
another slap clairvoyant.
Well yeah, should have said “BA’s name probably brings enough revenue”
Quit dry-snitching BA. Hope that dude gets paid forever. If he found a nice quiet place to chill, but still get checks, why you gotta ruin that for him?
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Sponsorship wise, Jerry should still be coasting off the Made 2 part through 2019 even though the song/edit did him no favors. Shit was comparable to what AVE did in Propeller if you consider career length/industry status.
Honestly, one or two fillers aside, that part was probably the best thing Jerry did since bag of suck, does not get the credit it deserves.
Completely forgot his part in Made 2 existed. Just rewatched and holy shit the song/edit doesn't do his skating any justice. I long for the days before music rights became an issue.
Doesn't he have a Mogwai track?
On this note, how is it possibly in the interest of a brand like Emerica not to put their videos online? Is it a music licensing issue? I'd be super keen to watch Made 2 but it doesn't seem to be online. If I were running a company, I would want all our video productions easily available online in HD (or good quality). Whats the point of making a video if its not accessible? No one is buying hard copies these days.
iTunes paywall homie. It's where a lot of the bigger budget videos go and yeah keeping it there forever is so fucking stupid that it's probably a contractual thing with Apple.
https://www.redbull.com/int-en/tv/video/AP-1QVDTV2DS1W11/made-chapter-two?playlist=AP-1QVQ996DN1W11
Fuck yeah! Thanks.
So crazy to think that both Reynolds and Jerry put out such good parts so late in their careers. Rewatching Jerry's part, is madness that Emerica kicked him off.
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I like Jerry a lot. He's in your favorite skater's top 10 faves. From a business perspective, he's a B minus level pro in his mid to late 30s that doesn't generate the sales to warrant the lack of output. He was pretty hot when Emerica took him on. Perhaps they can pay newer guys a lot less than what he makes.
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Perhaps they saw him leaving chocolate without having any back up plan and a lack luster IG showing as a sign that he doesn’t care...?
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no one should feel bad for jerry. he seems to be doing exactly what he wants and even though he may have been upset in the moment about the way things went down at emerica he admits it now makes sense and hes better off overall. nothing is preventing him from having any big sponsors. he just doesnt want it.
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Maybe we can get those famous "Jerry" shirts made again, sell them to Jerry fans and donate the profits to Jerry. He'd never have to worry about money ever again.
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Maybe we can get those famous "Jerry" shirts made again, sell them to Jerry fans and donate the profits to Jerry. He'd never have to worry about money ever again.
lmaooooo which poster on here made those? who has the receipts
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lk130 I think, I don't see him around here anymore.
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Sponsorship wise, Jerry should still be coasting off the Made 2 part through 2019 even though the song/edit did him no favors. Shit was comparable to what AVE did in Propeller if you consider career length/industry status.
Honestly, one or two fillers aside, that part was probably the best thing Jerry did since bag of suck, does not get the credit it deserves.
Completely forgot his part in Made 2 existed. Just rewatched and holy shit the song/edit doesn't do his skating any justice. I long for the days before music rights became an issue.
Doesn't he have a Mogwai track?
On this note, how is it possibly in the interest of a brand like Emerica not to put their videos online? Is it a music licensing issue? I'd be super keen to watch Made 2 but it doesn't seem to be online. If I were running a company, I would want all our video productions easily available online in HD (or good quality). Whats the point of making a video if its not accessible? No one is buying hard copies these days.
iTunes paywall homie. It's where a lot of the bigger budget videos go and yeah keeping it there forever is so fucking stupid that it's probably a contractual thing with Apple.
https://www.redbull.com/int-en/tv/video/AP-1QVDTV2DS1W11/made-chapter-two?playlist=AP-1QVQ996DN1W11
Heath Kirchart looks like Howard Moon in his guest trick
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Sponsorship wise, Jerry should still be coasting off the Made 2 part through 2019 even though the song/edit did him no favors. Shit was comparable to what AVE did in Propeller if you consider career length/industry status.
Honestly, one or two fillers aside, that part was probably the best thing Jerry did since bag of suck, does not get the credit it deserves.
Completely forgot his part in Made 2 existed. Just rewatched and holy shit the song/edit doesn't do his skating any justice. I long for the days before music rights became an issue.
Doesn't he have a Mogwai track?
On this note, how is it possibly in the interest of a brand like Emerica not to put their videos online? Is it a music licensing issue? I'd be super keen to watch Made 2 but it doesn't seem to be online. If I were running a company, I would want all our video productions easily available online in HD (or good quality). Whats the point of making a video if its not accessible? No one is buying hard copies these days.
iTunes paywall homie. It's where a lot of the bigger budget videos go and yeah keeping it there forever is so fucking stupid that it's probably a contractual thing with Apple.
https://www.redbull.com/int-en/tv/video/AP-1QVDTV2DS1W11/made-chapter-two?playlist=AP-1QVQ996DN1W11
Heath Kirchart looks like Howard Moon in his guest trick
Like a Jazz Dalek?
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just because this dude crushed it 10 years ago doesn't mean he's guaranteed a check lol
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My favorite Jerry ever is Made 2 Jerry. Awesome fits and just being awesome all around. He's the coolest black cat ever. Also, I recently bought some Emericas at my local skate outlet including a pair of blue Reynolds 3. I like my blue Reynolds 3 that much that I don't want to skate them. :)
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The Jerry shirts have been sitting in customs in Singapore because of a legal dispute over who owns the image of the image of the shirt on the shirt. A whole fucking ship of them I am so fucked.
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Sponsorship wise, Jerry should still be coasting off the Made 2 part through 2019 even though the song/edit did him no favors. Shit was comparable to what AVE did in Propeller if you consider career length/industry status.
Honestly, one or two fillers aside, that part was probably the best thing Jerry did since bag of suck, does not get the credit it deserves.
Completely forgot his part in Made 2 existed. Just rewatched and holy shit the song/edit doesn't do his skating any justice. I long for the days before music rights became an issue.
Doesn't he have a Mogwai track?
On this note, how is it possibly in the interest of a brand like Emerica not to put their videos online? Is it a music licensing issue? I'd be super keen to watch Made 2 but it doesn't seem to be online. If I were running a company, I would want all our video productions easily available online in HD (or good quality). Whats the point of making a video if its not accessible? No one is buying hard copies these days.
iTunes paywall homie. It's where a lot of the bigger budget videos go and yeah keeping it there forever is so fucking stupid that it's probably a contractual thing with Apple.
https://www.redbull.com/int-en/tv/video/AP-1QVDTV2DS1W11/made-chapter-two?playlist=AP-1QVQ996DN1W11
Heath Kirchart looks like Howard Moon in his guest trick
Yeah, leaping around out there with a bassoon taped to his head.
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lk130 I think, I don't see him around here anymore.
He better not come round here anymore, or I'll give em one of THESE, and one of THESE!!
(https://i.imgur.com/XJV4Eax.gif)
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people always say certain pros deserve to get paid to not do a whole lot because of their legacy. why not jerry hsu? what about someone like ba who rides for anti-hero and nike but barely puts out footage these days?
BA is gay bro its chill
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Someone needs to bite the bullet and pay this man to skateboard. He has alot left to give. I would think Emerica would have just reduced his pay based on his lack of promotion. Still gotta be worth $1000 a month to have Jerry's name associated with your shoes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBeAM-Wx18Y
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Jerry kicked OFF emerica
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Jerry kicked OFF emerica
No you frickin idiot.
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Jerry kicked OFF emerica
What the fuck are you talking about?
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Jerry kicked OFF emerica
Focus your entire life
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No you frickin idiot.
No, he’s right
it’s OFF, you cretins
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No, he’s right
it’s OFF, you cretins
No it’s not you frickin idiot
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SAY OFF AGAIN
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No surprise here most skate companies want you to have a legit board sponsor..so they can get free promotion in said board companies ads and videos..
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The original video in the first post was removed, and on the podcasts site it says the current version is v2.0 and the filename says "redacted"
do we know what was removed?
There was a thread about it but I think it might've gotten deleted? They basically just cut out the part where Jerry was saying the vibe of the Supreme stores was lame and he didn't like going there.
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SAY OFF AGAIN
OFF