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Title: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: BobbyPshew on August 20, 2018, 02:25:44 AM
Does Mike V get a pass for pulling this shit?

Q- Rick Kosick says you’re a racist, is that true?
A- Did you say I’m a racist, Kosick? Did I say something about jigaboos, or something?
Rick-Something when we were crossing the San Pedro bridge, you said “Tell that ni**er I want a receipt”.
Q- Have you ever used the term ‘Ni**er Work’ to describe mundane jobs?
Mike- I probably have, yeah. I don’t want this to turn into Mike V is a racist, but I’m aware of certain prejudices I’ve inherited, I’m no different than anyone else.


Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: dallou on August 20, 2018, 02:36:39 AM
is it a fanfic ? if not post a link ...
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: BobbyPshew on August 20, 2018, 02:45:03 AM
Big Brother magazine, issue 14...Don't have a link, I just own a copy.
I'm sure someone's scanned them, somewhere?
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: iKobrakai on August 20, 2018, 02:50:33 AM
He's pretty much a dumber Henry Rollins. I'm almost insulted by how fucking pretentious and uselss he is.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: BobbyPshew on August 20, 2018, 02:52:01 AM
Here it is... https://skatemagarchive.blogspot.com/2014/03/big-brother-issue-14.html
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: jomeara1 on August 20, 2018, 03:05:15 AM
Why should he get a pass and not everyone else that has been called out lately?
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: BobbyPshew on August 20, 2018, 03:11:22 AM
He's pretty much a dumber Henry Rollins. I'm almost insulted by how fucking pretentious and uselss he is.

Yep.
I'd be pretty pissed off and getting in his face, if he called someone a ni**er, or a jigaboo in earshot of me.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Manolo on August 20, 2018, 03:59:47 AM
Big bro is definitely the best place to look for things to get offended by today's standards.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: ChiefSQueff on August 20, 2018, 04:10:06 AM
Here we go again. Just fuck off with this. Mike V has done more for skating than all of us combined. Who cares if he uses a word you don't agree with. We are allowed to be ourselves wigger boy
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: BobbyPshew on August 20, 2018, 04:30:41 AM
Here we go again. Just fuck off with this. Mike V has done more for skating than all of us combined. Who cares if he uses a word you don't agree with. We are allowed to be ourselves wigger boy

'A word I don't agree with', those aren't just any words, that's hate speech, redneck
I'm not trying to start a campaign, I just want to know if he gets a pass, after using hate speech, when others don't and if he does, why?
I'm a wigger for pointing this out?
Fucking redneck...
Please, go into detail about the expance of what he has done for skating, than all of us combined.
Streetplants?
Company after company that are all the same company with a different name, through different investors and distributors, afteer he burns every bridge in skateboarding?
Do tell, darling.





Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: MexicanSpaniard on August 20, 2018, 05:17:37 AM
I thought this was gonna be about him wearing a helmet
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Sleazy on August 20, 2018, 05:25:54 AM
so you are wanting me to believe that the guy who drives this thing has used the n word at some point in his life?

(https://cdn.barrett-jackson.com/staging/carlist/items/Fullsize/Cars/125776/125776_Front_3-4_Web.jpg)
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: feedmeseymour on August 20, 2018, 05:33:11 AM
even when i had these shoes in 7th grade, no one cared about mike v, i doubt times have changed.
(http://assets.suredone.com/2161/media-photos/sd4776-etnies-skateboard-2000-mike-vallely-pro-model-sneaker-mens-size-8-new-in-box-2.jpeg)
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: cucktard on August 20, 2018, 06:07:08 AM
Well, he did have a strong skinhead lookback in the Powell days.

I’m about at the point where we can just call skateboarding’s homeland and early history racist in general and try to move on
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Robert Baratheon on August 20, 2018, 06:27:24 AM
If he's genuinely apologetic about this and hasn't recently sold nazi clothing and doesn't hang out with white power bands, then yes, he gets a pass.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: mattchew on August 20, 2018, 06:48:19 AM
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If he's genuinely apologetic about this and hasn't recently sold nazi clothing and doesn't hang out with white power bands, then yes, he gets a pass.
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Pretty much how I feel too.
Jason Jessee was repping that shit throughout his entire career, profiting off of straight up racist imagery, and hanging out with white power dudes.
Mike V being a dumbass in print 20 years ago sucks, but is extremely different than whats been coming up in the industry lately (unless there is more than what's already posted in this thread that I am unaware of/and he is actively racist).
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: I sniff Jim Gagne's butthole all the time on August 20, 2018, 06:54:24 AM
he also has lightning bolt tats. mike v, that helmet can't cover up your skinhead.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Pootie Calrissitang on August 20, 2018, 07:25:42 AM
Mike V. should have had his cool-card pulled after that lame ass Black Flag bullshit.

I'll admit, I was a huge fan back in the Powell/World days, but lets face it; He's proven himself to be nothing more than a fucking jock who rides a skateboard.

Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: straight fucking edge on August 20, 2018, 07:43:11 AM
he also has lightning bolt tats. mike v, that helmet can't cover up your skinhead.

oh man lightning bolt tats!!! get him!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Salty Lame Ass Poosey on August 20, 2018, 07:48:52 AM
Hey guys he is friends with Chris Pastras
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: DISTANT RUMOURS on August 20, 2018, 08:19:00 AM
Mike V. should have had his cool-card pulled after that lame ass Black Flag bullshit.

I'll admit, I was a huge fan back in the Powell/World days, but lets face it; He's proven himself to be nothing more than a fucking jock who rides a skateboard.

Hahaha :D I kinda agree with this.
His Black Flag stuff was TERRIBLE!

On the other hand I've actually seen him in person around 1994?
Touring all by himself and he was actually really really really friendly.
And I 'appreciated' him ever since.

But MIKE V has always been a coin on it's side for me, sometimes I think he's the coolest ever and sometimes I think he's the biggest kook ever... it always flips back and forth.

These days he's doing pretty well it seems? But I seriously doubt he'd be a racist...
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: doomstation55 on August 20, 2018, 08:22:58 AM
You mean the guy who starred in Paul Blart: Mall Cop?
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: drunkenshredder on August 20, 2018, 08:29:00 AM
Ive heard stories of his skating. If there was a crowd pleasing trick he wouldn't land it on purpose until there was a big enough scene watching and then finally land it. He might be the next governor of CA they seem to like guys like Mike V.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: goldenbullcow on August 20, 2018, 08:29:23 AM
Streetplant needs to suspend him immediately
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: feedmeseymour on August 20, 2018, 08:32:32 AM
http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=98443.0 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=98443.0)

this was a great styling on you thread.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Pigeon on August 20, 2018, 08:40:11 AM
This is probably the most coverage Mike V has gotten in the past couple years, and it had to be from a Big Brother.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: I sniff Jim Gagne's butthole all the time on August 20, 2018, 08:49:56 AM
he stole his wife from his friend, possibly dune. that's worse than racist but his daughters are hot so maybe the ends justify the means?
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: GAY on August 20, 2018, 08:51:26 AM
Are we talking about a ghetto pass, like the one John Mayer has?
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Robert Baratheon on August 20, 2018, 09:58:02 AM
Streetplant needs to suspend him immediately

10/10 sir!
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Glue Reed on August 20, 2018, 02:24:13 PM
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If he's genuinely apologetic about this and hasn't recently sold nazi clothing and doesn't hang out with white power bands, then yes, he gets a pass.
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Pretty much how I feel too.
Jason Jessee was repping that shit throughout his entire career, profiting off of straight up racist imagery, and hanging out with white power dudes.
Mike V being a dumbass in print 20 years ago sucks, but is extremely different than whats been coming up in the industry lately (unless there is more than what's already posted in this thread that I am unaware of/and he is actively racist).

this came up in the JJ thread.

I remember when this happened... almost immediately Mike V. put out a statement (i don't remember where.. transworld?) saying that the interview was bullshit; he was misquoted and some of it was flat out made up.  Kareem Campbell called out the interview as being bullshit in the next issue of Big Bro, and a few other skaters came to Mike's defense. 

No one on Big Brother ever refuted this, and since they were known to do shit like that all the time it was just assumed to be a made up interview.  It's best to not take anything from Big Bro seriously, especially in that era and especially when it involved Mike V.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Pete on August 20, 2018, 02:55:23 PM
How has that gif of him frontflipping into a barricade for no reason not been posted yet?

That’s a good one.

Free max b
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Second date on August 20, 2018, 03:58:36 PM
Here we go again. Just fuck off with this. Mike V has done more for skating than all of us combined. Who cares if he uses a word you don't agree with. We are allowed to be ourselves wigger boy
Let's be honest though.
Mike V is a massive cunt and his street plants aren't even good.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on August 20, 2018, 04:17:50 PM
I have always hated Mike V but when I found out he took ED’s check and cashed it for himself...  that was the true end.
He might not be a racist but he probably is a dick... so No, no pass
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: jomeara1 on August 20, 2018, 04:19:35 PM
Not one response from Gip yet?? Usually by now there’s a full blown rant with pitchforks and everything.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on August 20, 2018, 05:08:22 PM
I have always hated Mike V but when I found out he took ED’s check and cashed it for himself...  that was the true end.
He might not be a racist but he probably is a dick... so No, no pass

.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: jakeumms on August 20, 2018, 05:31:40 PM
His Public Domain part was the first skate video I remember seeing and I will love his Speed Freaks part til death. There have been some other phases that have made it really hard to hold on to that love though for sure.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Pootie Calrissitang on August 20, 2018, 05:56:43 PM
His Public Domain part was the first skate video I remember seeing and I will love his Speed Freaks part til death. There have been some other phases that have made it really hard to hold on to that love though for sure.

Agreed. His Speed Freaks part is easily one of my all time favorites. Even the music was on point and fit the part perfectly.

THAT's how I want to remember Mike V., lol.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on August 20, 2018, 06:30:30 PM
Big bro is definitely the best place to look for things to get offended by today's standards.
yes, and also a publication that held strict journalistic standards in regard to only printing exactly what was said during interviews.

I'm a broken record, but I fuck with modern day Mike V, finally seems like he's gotten over all his kooky phases and is really at peace with himself and his brand
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on August 20, 2018, 07:01:15 PM
How has that gif of him frontflipping into a barricade for no reason not been posted yet?

That’s a good one.

Free max b
HE DID IT BECAUSE THEY NEEDED A BIG STUNT.
Not one response from Gip yet?? Usually by now there’s a full blown rant with pitchforks and everything.
You’re a fucking idiot who doesn’t get how shit works here. No, I’m not pissed about a fake big brother interview making fun of his skinhead look. I actually have a brain, unlike whoever the fuck you are. Is there something, anything you’ve controbuted to this place that is memorable that you can remind me of? Because I have no fucking clue who you are or where you get the impression you know shit about shit.
Just a little nazi loving proud boy wannabe bitch who is upset I don’t love his nazi heroes
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: NegativeCreep on August 20, 2018, 09:02:21 PM
I have always hated Mike V but when I found out he took ED’s check and cashed it for himself...  that was the true end.
He might not be a racist but he probably is a dick... so No, no pass

I was just watching Ed's epicly later'd the other night. 

https://youtu.be/w4twp085Ywg
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Chavo on August 20, 2018, 09:13:32 PM
It turned out to be a non-issue, but skateboarding will never forget the Mike V. sandwich incident.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Hoeboi on August 20, 2018, 09:22:31 PM
mike v could whoop all y'alls asses at once. thats the only fact we know about him.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Nosferatu on August 20, 2018, 09:51:22 PM
List of people who always seem to get a pass in the industry:
1.) Gino
2.) Gonz
3.) Mike V.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: BobbyPshew on August 20, 2018, 11:09:49 PM
I'm glad he got called out for that shit.
Same fucking rules apply. Always.

That interview is an interesting read, after hearing Ed's side of the story, of what happened with Mike and Television.

They asked Mike about Television and if he was still friends with Ed.

"I guess the main thing was that I could not keep a business relationship with Ed, and remain friends, so I wanted to end it, end the business relationship.But in doing that, it ended the friend relationship and I guess that was coming.Once Ed moved out and started Toy Machine with Vision, I tried to keep Television going on my own, with Jahmal, doing it out of my house, with all my own money, but it had no chance.
And I didn't feel that good about doing it, anyway, Ed wasn't there and the team wasn't there that we originally had, it wasn't really Television, anymore.At the time I had to cling to it 'cause I didn't really know what else to do."

Q- Are you and Ed still friends?
Mike- I'd like to still be friends, but when I see him, he's a stranger, man.He acts fake to me and bullshits me. He was my best friend for a long time and now, when he sees me, it's like we have no history, ya know, and that kinda hurts.When the whole Television thing went down, I told him I wanted to remain friends, so I made an effort. I called him up to go skating and do the things we usually do together, but he kinda just shined me and stayed away.Then he called me, when he needed stuff, like a videotape I had with a trick with him on it that I had, and I told him "Man, you're calling me when you want something, but you're not calling me to see what's going on, so I don't want nothing to do with you. I still see him and we talk, but not really.
It feels like shit. I hate it"

Fucking liar!
When you can't think of anyone else to milk some money out of, just steal your business partner and friend's check.
Then deny it ever happening,to said "best friend" and business partner, to the point where some shit could go down, then lie about it some more and make yourself out to be the one who's been wronged, and "hurt", when asked in an interview.
He may not be a racist, but he'll fuck you over for a dollar, even if you're his "best friend".

I don't like thieves and I really don't like liars, especially liars that go off into fabricated stories to make them look wronged and hurt.
ASSHOLIO.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on August 20, 2018, 11:41:17 PM
Woah, way to judge him over something that happened some time 20+ years ago, so that's it huh, for the rest of his life he can't evolve ever escape that one episode?
I love both him and Ed but Ed also isn't the greatest businessman (remember what he did to Senn?) so I'd honestly take both of their sides of the story with a grain of salt
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Nth syd bear on August 21, 2018, 12:39:19 AM
Woah, way to judge him over something that happened some time 20+ years ago, so that's it huh, for the rest of his life he can't evolve ever escape that one episode?
I love both him and Ed but Ed also isn't the greatest businessman (remember what he did to Senn?) so I'd honestly take both of their sides of the story with a grain of salt
Exactly and at the end of the day these guys are all kids trying to run businesses an shit
Together don’t know about you but I’ve seen lots of my friends have falling outs over money
With each other.. it’s life bro and not really our shit just coz they famous for being good on a skateboard doesn’t make them perfect people .. give me a break..

Ps jj is a nazi.. haha
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: jakeumms on August 21, 2018, 12:40:36 AM
Thanks for posting that text from the interview. Is the full thing anywhere? I'd love to read it all. I bought the Big Brother book but I don't think any full articles like that are in there.

On a related note, from Ed's Thrasher interview somewhere in 01 there's a section where he lists his skate buddies. From 1997-2001 Mike V is listed. I think they patched up things up. He also said in his Epicly Laterd that the Mike V that people see is totally different than the one he knows.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: DCLOVE on August 21, 2018, 12:48:12 AM
Everyone’s a racist and everyone is an activist. Just be offended quietly and move on. Or rub one out to the dude in your hey Arnold esque secret white power shrine .

I miss when this was just 30 year old dudes circle jerking Bobby Puleo and Fred Gall while also saying that this Jake Johnson kid is God’s gift to skating.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Krooked antihero on August 21, 2018, 01:06:07 AM
I miss when this was just 30 year old dudes circle jerking Bobby Puleo and Fred Gall while also saying that this Jake Johnson kid is God’s gift to skating.
Amen.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: BobbyPshew on August 21, 2018, 01:43:52 AM
They really were just kids trying to work all that shit out, huh?
I can tend to go a wee bitty overboard, every now and then. ::)
Pretty crap way to treat your mates, though...
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Heather Chandler on August 21, 2018, 02:17:22 AM
He's pretty much a dumber Henry Rollins. I'm almost insulted by how fucking pretentious and uselss he is.

Well said. 
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: DISTANT RUMOURS on August 21, 2018, 04:28:25 AM
Everyone’s a racist and everyone is an activist. Just be offended quietly and move on. Or rub one out to the dude in your hey Arnold esque secret white power shrine .

I miss when this was just 30 year old dudes circle jerking Bobby Puleo and Fred Gall while also saying that this Jake Johnson kid is God’s gift to skating.

Hey hey, not an evening passes without me thinking about Fred Gall or Puleo :(
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: lou dawg on August 21, 2018, 06:52:10 AM
This is way too personal and way too much time has passed for me to pass any judgment.

Skateboarding as a spectator sport is weird, man.

I'm pretty sure they're cool with each other now. It's been long enough for them to own up to their very public history.

I'm sure we're all living very flawless and fault-free lives.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: dr.prestige on August 21, 2018, 07:38:46 AM
If skating kicked out the best frontside ollie and invert fakie in the business, I think it's reasonable to kick out Mike V. I feel like the only thing he's relevant for in long term skate history anyways is the first popular double kick board, and that was more Rocco's doing anyways.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: opinionated bastard on August 21, 2018, 07:52:49 AM
Losers
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: shit_for_brains on August 21, 2018, 08:04:48 AM
What if he gets black balled from the skating, amateur hockey, backyard wrestling, film extra, spoken word poetry, amateur roller hockey, Southern rock, or traveling motivational speaker communities?!?
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Salty Lame Ass Poosey on August 21, 2018, 08:30:19 AM
You guys got ot all wrong he is just a vegan nazi

(https://imageshack.com/i/pnFsIN8Sp)
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Matthew_James on August 21, 2018, 12:41:48 PM
The real question is “Is Mike V a Racist,” not “does Mike V have a low IQ & Say Dumb Shit.” He treated my back friends just like he treated me, and he treated us better than literally every single pro I’ve ever met. I fuck with Mike, he’s good in my book.


Oh wait, here come a bunch of people who are gonna pretend they never said “nigger” or “coon” before responding....
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: feedmeseymour on August 21, 2018, 01:01:42 PM
The real question is “Is Mike V a Racist,” not “does Mike V have a low IQ & Say Dumb Shit.” He treated my back friends just like he treated me, and he treated us better than literally every single pro I’ve ever met. I fuck with Mike, he’s good in my book.


Oh wait, here come a bunch of people who are gonna pretend they never said “nigger” or “coon” before responding....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMchvKOAkDo
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on August 21, 2018, 04:22:15 PM
  Shit flip mute grabs and a 'middle finger to the industry'.  Mike v was the man before he quit world industries.  After that it was just a colosal bad trip.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: KoRnholio8 on August 22, 2018, 12:58:13 AM
Here it is... https://skatemagarchive.blogspot.com/2014/03/big-brother-issue-14.html

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Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: StabMasterArson on August 22, 2018, 09:14:56 AM
Mike V's head looks like a rubbish heap.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: jakeumms on August 22, 2018, 11:49:07 AM
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Here it is... https://skatemagarchive.blogspot.com/2014/03/big-brother-issue-14.html
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Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Chavo on August 22, 2018, 12:51:49 PM
If skating kicked out the best frontside ollie and invert fakie in the business, I think it's reasonable to kick out Mike V. I feel like the only thing he's relevant for in long term skate history anyways is the first popular double kick board, and that was more Rocco's doing anyways.

Not liking him should not entail changing history to suit. Mike V. put east coast street skating on the map during the mid-80s. He was the first big name street skater from the northeast, and one of the first true street skaters in general.

There were other guys like Bruno Muso, Jeremy Henderson (transplant from England?), and Rodney Smith, but never became big name pros. Unfortunately many New York guys like to downplay Mike V, even though he was one of the first to do real tricks on the Brooklyn Banks. I guess they don't like New Jersey and tend to also neglect to mention that Rodney Smith (Shut and Zoo York founder) was also from Jersey. Sure they were painting boards on Aly's roof, but they made the decks in Rodney's basement.
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Manolo on August 22, 2018, 01:18:58 PM
Yeah it's also funny how so much people are talking shit while they probably dess and skate exactly like early Mike V.

Dude is an east coast legend. Definitely a character but pretty much like all the others who made street skating what it is today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwNSpHdyYeQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXHWiFYZ9dk

Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on August 22, 2018, 06:08:37 PM
Yeah it's also funny how so much people are talking shit while they probably dess and skate exactly like early Mike V.
*coughs* POLAR *coughs*
Title: Re: Does Mike V Get A Pass?
Post by: Issy on August 22, 2018, 07:30:16 PM
Vallely after 1281 has been pretty apathetic.