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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: shred420 on May 21, 2019, 10:15:48 PM
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I know everyone has to be wondering what the true cause of death was, to me the fact that it wasn't publicly announced raises questions. I feel like the fact it hasn't been put out there means it can't be anything natural or good for his reputation, but I think skaters deserve to know what happened. To me his status wouldn't really be affected by knowing the truth its just part of how Jake decided to live his life and from a reporters perspective I feel he would want his entire story known.
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It's not that important. The running story I see is a stroke while playing guitar, that sounds good enough for me.
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Why does it matter? He was here, now he’s gone. End of story.
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heart failure. pretty sure that’s public knowledge. now that you know focus you’re account because you’re not shalom and will never be shalom.
rip jake
shalom
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Why does it matter? He was here, now he’s gone. End of story.
It's just morbid curiosity, and I'm guilty of it myself.
And hardly the end of the story; Phelps will be memorialized for decades. His fans will always want to know the details of how this legend's life was tragically cut short.
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I know everyone has to be wondering what the true cause of death was,
Not everyone has been wondering. I, as well as many other people, don't bother knowing because it's obviously none of our business if it hasn't been announced in over 2 months.
Have some respect and delete this thread. You'll get your answer when the rest of the world does.
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Shut up
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skaters deserve to know what happened
not really, random skaters of the world are not entitled to know the specific details of cause of death, if jake's family decides they dont want to make it public knowledge. your curiosity doesn't out weigh their privacy.
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Dude was hanging around Andy Roy all the time and there is an opioid epidemic currently. I'm not saying thats what it was, I'm just saying it was probably that. If only he had have hit up Bam. RIP.
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the man was one of us and, we all owe
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skaters deserve to know what happened
not really, random skaters of the world are not entitled to know the specific details of cause of death, if jake's family decides they dont want to make it public knowledge. your curiosity doesn't out weigh their privacy.
Yeah not really sure why you think skaters deserve to know. How do you justify that?
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Anyone who says they dont want to know the cause of death are full of shit.
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Anyone who says they dont want to know the cause of death are full of shit.
Most of us aren’t conspiracy obsessed kooks needing to make sense of a man dying in his old age
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if it's not public it's either suicide or overdose
knowing it's an overdose could help raise awareness
ben's suicide opened a debate about mental health and how to get help.
it's a similar topic when it comes to overdose...
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jeez people really want this to be a suicide
he was super young but his heart giving out/stroke is far more likely
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if it's not public it's either suicide or overdose
knowing it's an overdose could help raise awareness
ben's suicide opened a debate about mental health and how to get help.
it's a similar topic when it comes to overdose...
I want to think that, that's about creating awareness and not just morbid curiosity.
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It comes down to if Jake Phelps’s family decides to release it or not. Period.
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Everyone posting on this thread low key wants to know the cause of death.
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I dont think Jake would want people to feel shame about his choices. They were his to make. Dishonorable to bear false witness. A drug cover up for Thrasher has corporate interest in mind. The truth shall set you free. Dont listen to these fucks.
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"Delete this thread"
"Focus your account"
Jesus Christ y'all are bunch of fucking bitches. Every time something you can't handle comes up this is your answer.
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Everyone posting on this thread low key wants to know the cause of death.
Fuckin heroin bro.
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Everyone posting on this thread low key wants to know the cause of death.
It’s why I checked in The first place
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Here is Jake's response to your question:
(https://boiltheocean.files.wordpress.com/2019/03/phelps.png)
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I always want to know why folk died, especially if they are too young to just die of old age. Part of it is probably just morbid curiosity but it is also a self interest thing. I'm 45 and when people not that much older than me croak it's a bit fucking scary, and hey, it might be helpful to know what it was.
I also think that trying to brush it under the carpet in the name of 'privacy' is a bit of a poor show. We should talk about death more often and more openly, and whether Jake died from drugs or suicide or just shitty luck, it should be OK to talk about it.
At this point I just want to give full Credit to Bens family and friends for being open about his suicide. It's not an easy thing to be open about, but that openness is to everyones benefit hopefully.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHSZcPMqaP4
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Died tragically rescuing his family from the wreckage of a destroyed sinking battleship.
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Jake wasn't "old" per se but his death was well within the expected range (actuarially speaking) for males with an unhealthy lifestyle history.
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heart failure. pretty sure that’s public knowledge. now that you know focus you’re account because you’re not shalom and will never be shalom.
rip jake
shalom
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I notice every skateboarder that has passed they’re death hasn’t been announced and what they passed from within days of their passing, except Phelps? Is his death hidden because of how big of a personality he was in skateboard culture? Enjoi announced Ben was suicide to help people reach out for help, Thrasher could announce Phelps death if it was drugs to help people stay away from drugs or go to rehab, surely his death would of been found by now, why is it such a big secret? Because they have a show on Viceland? Because Monster sponsors some Thrasher comps and the park??
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I notice every skateboarder that has passed they’re death hasn’t been announced and what they passed from within days of their passing, except Phelps? Is his death hidden because of how big of a personality he was in skateboard culture? Enjoi announced Ben was suicide to help people reach out for help, Thrasher could announce Phelps death if it was drugs to help people stay away from drugs or go to rehab, surely his death would of been found by now, why is it such a big secret? Because they have a show on Viceland? Because Monster sponsors some Thrasher comps and the park??
I heard somewhere (probably somewhere on this site) that KOTR is not going to be on Viceland this year.
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I always want to know why folk died, especially if they are too young to just die of old age. Part of it is probably just morbid curiosity but it is also a self interest thing. I'm 45 and when people not that much older than me croak it's a bit fucking scary, and hey, it might be helpful to know what it was.
I also think that trying to brush it under the carpet in the name of 'privacy' is a bit of a poor show. We should talk about death more often and more openly, and whether Jake died from drugs or suicide or just shitty luck, it should be OK to talk about it.
At this point I just want to give full Credit to Bens family and friends for being open about his suicide. It's not an easy thing to be open about, but that openness is to everyones benefit hopefully.
Thank you.
Its in human nature to know cause of death. To avoid it, and to know what the dead went through.
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the olympics had phelps knocked off.
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the olympics had phelps knocked off.
HA!
They probably knew he would show up and make every skater roll in to the deep end of a bowl before they were allowed to start their run. He would tell all the Olympic Committee losers to "check their miles" while they dragged him out of the arena.
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Why are we acting all shocked that folks on the skateboarding internet message board are wanting to know how one of the largest and most vocal celebrities in the industry suddenly died with no mention of cause of death being released. Of course we want to know. Just like we want to know how other celebrities died. What is the first question you think of when you hear about someone famous' unexpected death... "How did it happen?"
It is completely natural to ask and not, in my opinion, disrespectful to speculate, especially on a platform that more or less exists for rumor. It would be disrespectful to perpetually bring it up to Phelps' family and friends. If they don't want to talk about it, that is their right and we shouldn't bother them. But to act like it is somehow supremely forbidden to talk about this is moronic.
Phelps mysterious death, and it is only mysterious because they haven't released any info on it, is probably the biggest news in skating this year, and this year has been chock full of skate news. Frankly, the defensiveness of everybody towards inquiries makes it all the more fascinating.
All that being said, unless I hear otherwise, it's obviously drugs.
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Dude, I’m totally curious but demanding to know like as if were entitled to that information because we skate too is lame.
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Dude, I’m totally curious but demanding to know like as if were entitled to that information because we skate too is lame.
Nobody did that tho. Did they? Its not that we are entitled but its that some people ARE entitled to know and they do know but theyre withholding the info even tho it was jakes life not theirs. There are corporate interests involved along with people who care but are dumb and think a cover up is the way to go. What your calling "that information" i'll just refer to as "the truth".
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Coroners report official cause of death: crust
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I don’t think there’s anything wrong with wanting to know the cause of death, but what more do you want? He died while playing guitar. You can assume drugs or lifestyle had a part in it, but the family isn’t going to ask for an autopsy to answer what is clearly a heart attack. We’re skaters, the medical system sucks, and shit happens.
Also, would it really help to reveal his death was drug-related? Most fiends I know would be psyched to know you can have a show on viceland and be widely known while maintaining a steady junk habit. Ben was young and taken way too soon, Phelps lived every day at 100% and made it older than my own dad.
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I am actually not curious.
It's none of my business.
Shalom
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Anyone who says they dont want to know the cause of death are full of shit.
Most of us aren’t conspiracy obsessed kooks needing to make sense of a man dying in his old age
56 is not old age.
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My guess is he accidentally died during auto-erotic asphyxiation and Thrasher was like "yeah we'll just say he died playing guitar, most skaters will be dumb enough not to question that."
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Coroners report official cause of death: crust
better than "dat smoke", imo
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Dude, I’m totally curious but demanding to know like as if were entitled to that information because we skate too is lame.
Nobody did that tho. Did they? Its not that we are entitled but its that some people ARE entitled to know and they do know but theyre withholding the info even tho it was jakes life not theirs. There are corporate interests involved along with people who care but are dumb and think a cover up is the way to go. What your calling "that information" i'll just refer to as "the truth".
OP said “skaters to deserve to know.” So, yeah, somebody did that.
And I think you’re overestimating the corporate impact his cause of death being released would have. Wall Street isn’t going to go into a tailspin because Jake OD’ed. Thrasher isn’t losing Nike ads over it.
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My guess is he accidentally died during auto-erotic asphyxiation and Thrasher was like "yeah we'll just say he died playing guitar, most skaters will be dumb enough not to question that."
Thats the cause of most deaths anyways so thats not really sayin much
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Dude, I’m totally curious but demanding to know like as if were entitled to that information because we skate too is lame.
Nobody did that tho. Did they? Its not that we are entitled but its that some people ARE entitled to know and they do know but theyre withholding the info even tho it was jakes life not theirs. There are corporate interests involved along with people who care but are dumb and think a cover up is the way to go. What your calling "that information" i'll just refer to as "the truth".
OP said “skaters to deserve to know.” So, yeah, somebody did that.
And I think you’re overestimating the corporate impact his cause of death being released would have. Wall Street isn’t going to go into a tailspin because Jake OD’ed. Thrasher isn’t losing Nike ads over it.
Yeah I guess deserve to know can sound a little harsh, but I wasn't trying to say it in a way were I feel like we should make a big deal about it and demand anything. More so I just was thinking why there isn't any info about his passing, he's just such a figure in skateboarding and to have zero information about what happened just raises bigger questions really.
If it was a drug issue like some people speculate I could see why his Family/Thrasher doesn't want to put it out there to garnish his name. But if that is what happened I don't think a lot of people would really be surprised by it and look at him that much differently. And as others mentioned it could be a good way to get a message out there to kids in skating about drug use.
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with his family stating the cause of death it looks like a cover up?
phelps is respected enough for ppl, to be chill about it?
I know im chill about it.
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My guess is he accidentally died during auto-erotic asphyxiation and Thrasher was like "yeah we'll just say he died playing guitar, most skaters will be dumb enough not to question that."
Either his heart failed or he ODed, big conspiracy. Or perhaps he had information that might lead to Hillary's arrest..
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if the guitar was electric it could have electrocuted him with electricity.
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This is slap
The fuck wed be if someone wasn’t asking this here
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last year when he was here I avoided him because I don’t drink anymore.
I regret that.
There you go fucko I cleaned it up for you you fucking mong
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This is wack
RIP Jake
Shalom
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I get bent about this because I blew him off last time he was here.
I really wish I didn’t.
did you let him have a hellride? Was it 1-8 all the way, or did he give u a reach around?
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For what it's worth, the NYT article about his passing mentions drugs towards the end of the article:
Mr. Phelps’s easy access to pain medication, and the drinking that went along with his lifestyle, led him to struggle with substance abuse. Mr. Reyes said the habit had grown out of the surgeries and his love for skateboarding: The pain pills allowed him to get back to skating.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/20/obituaries/jake-phelps-dead.html
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The coroner's report I read said he was strangled by his mustache.
Seriously, none of our business. Famous people aren't our friends or family.
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Anyone who says they dont want to know the cause of death are full of shit.
Most of us aren’t conspiracy obsessed kooks needing to make sense of a man dying in his old age
56 is not old age.
but is definitely in the heart attack range...especially if you're not living the Kenny Anderson lifestyle.
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Curious why Thrasher hasn’t done a memorial issue similar to how Concussion did with Monk...
something like this maybe?
(http://i.imgur.com/LBsY4Eq.jpg?2) (https://imgur.com/LBsY4Eq)
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Curious why Thrasher hasn’t done a memorial issue similar to how Concussion did with Monk...
something like this maybe?
(http://i.imgur.com/LBsY4Eq.jpg?2) (https://imgur.com/LBsY4Eq)
Sorry 😐 on my way to my local shop now
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Anyone who says they dont want to know the cause of death are full of shit.
Most of us aren’t conspiracy obsessed kooks needing to make sense of a man dying in his old age
56 is not old age.
but is definitely in the heart attack range...especially if you're not living the Kenny Anderson lifestyle.
For sure ^ but that number has been on a steady decline - a friend of mine in his 70's had a heart attack last year. We were all really surprised when he said that 70% of the people recovering with him were in their 30's and under.
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For what it's worth, the NYT article about his passing mentions drugs towards the end of the article:
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Mr. Phelps’s easy access to pain medication, and the drinking that went along with his lifestyle, led him to struggle with substance abuse. Mr. Reyes said the habit had grown out of the surgeries and his love for skateboarding: The pain pills allowed him to get back to skating.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/20/obituaries/jake-phelps-dead.html
if i was a betting man, i'd bet on pain pills cut with fentanyl -- if it is indeed drug related. essentially a truly accidental OD. i had a homie die from 1 single percocet that had a fent hotspot last year. tragic as fuck.
https://www.kuow.org/stories/overdoses-linked-to-fentanyl-spike
“The scary thing is, there’s absolutely no quality control," he said. "This is not a pharmaceutical product. Some of these pills may have very high levels high enough to kill you very rapidly. Others may have very little.""
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I get bent about this because I blew him off last time he was here.
I really wish I didn’t.
Care to share the details?
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Dude, I’m totally curious but demanding to know like as if were entitled to that information because we skate too is lame.
Nobody did that tho. Did they? Its not that we are entitled but its that some people ARE entitled to know and they do know but theyre withholding the info even tho it was jakes life not theirs. There are corporate interests involved along with people who care but are dumb and think a cover up is the way to go. What your calling "that information" i'll just refer to as "the truth".
OP said “skaters to deserve to know.” So, yeah, somebody did that.
And I think you’re overestimating the corporate impact his cause of death being released would have. Wall Street isn’t going to go into a tailspin because Jake OD’ed. Thrasher isn’t losing Nike ads over it.
Yeah I guess deserve to know can sound a little harsh, but I wasn't trying to say it in a way were I feel like we should make a big deal about it and demand anything. More so I just was thinking why there isn't any info about his passing, he's just such a figure in skateboarding and to have zero information about what happened just raises bigger questions really.
If it was a drug issue like some people speculate I could see why his Family/Thrasher doesn't want to put it out there to garnish his name. But if that is what happened I don't think a lot of people would really be surprised by it and look at him that much differently. And as others mentioned it could be a good way to get a message out there to kids in skating about drug use.
Garnish it with …crust?
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Coroners report official cause of death: crust
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45D5vF_vlxw
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I wouldn’t lose too much sleep over it. Not making a 3 hour drive isn’t exactly blowing him off.
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I get bent about this because I blew him off last time he was here.
I really wish I didn’t.
Care to share the details?
3 or 4 people told me he was here. I have always admired jake. My father called him “the king punk fuck in the dress with a skateboard” or some such shit. I thought that was awesome.
I likely didn’t have the car. On the weekends it’s a 3 hr tour to get to town. The train leaves like every 4 hrs. If I did have the car I just sat and pondering should I bother?
Of corse I should have bothered but I’m a fucking lump of crusty shit who’s mostly just skates alone at night.
My friends don’t expect to see me anymore my crew knows I’m likely not going to the show my family knows I’m not coming to band practice. I haven’t even seen my brother or wrote him in like 7 years he’s been falsely imprisoned.
When I do show up it’s a miracle and we should just enjoy that moment and not expect it to be repeated or regular.
I only skate and babysit and clean the house rn. That’s all I can handle
So you’d never met him and he wasn’t expecting you? Tell us again how you “blew him off”?
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Anyone who says they dont want to know the cause of death are full of shit.
There's a clear difference between wanting to know the cause of death and the guy saying "skaters deserve to know". If it comes out I'm sure this will be one of the first places people get to find out...
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I get bent about this because I blew him off last time he was here.
I really wish I didn’t.
Care to share the details?
3 or 4 people told me he was here. I have always admired jake. My father called him “the king punk fuck in the dress with a skateboard” or some such shit. I thought that was awesome.
I likely didn’t have the car. On the weekends it’s a 3 hr tour to get to town. The train leaves like every 4 hrs. If I did have the car I just sat and pondering should I bother?
Of corse I should have bothered but I’m a fucking lump of crusty shit who’s mostly just skates alone at night.
My friends don’t expect to see me anymore my crew knows I’m likely not going to the show my family knows I’m not coming to band practice. I haven’t even seen my brother or wrote him in like 7 years he’s been falsely imprisoned.
When I do show up it’s a miracle and we should just enjoy that moment and not expect it to be repeated or regular.
I only skate and babysit and clean the house rn. That’s all I can handle
horses for corses
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Dude, I’m totally curious but demanding to know like as if were entitled to that information because we skate too is lame.
Nobody did that tho. Did they? Its not that we are entitled but its that some people ARE entitled to know and they do know but theyre withholding the info even tho it was jakes life not theirs. There are corporate interests involved along with people who care but are dumb and think a cover up is the way to go. What your calling "that information" i'll just refer to as "the truth".
OP said “skaters to deserve to know.” So, yeah, somebody did that.
And I think you’re overestimating the corporate impact his cause of death being released would have. Wall Street isn’t going to go into a tailspin because Jake OD’ed. Thrasher isn’t losing Nike ads over it.
Yeah I guess deserve to know can sound a little harsh, but I wasn't trying to say it in a way were I feel like we should make a big deal about it and demand anything. More so I just was thinking why there isn't any info about his passing, he's just such a figure in skateboarding and to have zero information about what happened just raises bigger questions really.
If it was a drug issue like some people speculate I could see why his Family/Thrasher doesn't want to put it out there to garnish his name. But if that is what happened I don't think a lot of people would really be surprised by it and look at him that much differently. And as others mentioned it could be a good way to get a message out there to kids in skating about drug use.
How horrid would that taste. Garnished with Bad Shit!
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I notice every skateboarder that has passed they’re death hasn’t been announced and what they passed from within days of their passing, except Phelps? Is his death hidden because of how big of a personality he was in skateboard culture? Enjoi announced Ben was suicide to help people reach out for help, Thrasher could announce Phelps death if it was drugs to help people stay away from drugs or go to rehab, surely his death would of been found by now, why is it such a big secret? Because they have a show on Viceland? Because Monster sponsors some Thrasher comps and the park??
Don't they [thrasher] want the drug culture to like thrasher, so they can sell an crazy take on skateboarding that most people can't live up to?
Fuckin hell ride bro. Scabs for slabs. Thrash and burn, yeye
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I notice every skateboarder that has passed they’re death hasn’t been announced and what they passed from within days of their passing, except Phelps? Is his death hidden because of how big of a personality he was in skateboard culture? Enjoi announced Ben was suicide to help people reach out for help, Thrasher could announce Phelps death if it was drugs to help people stay away from drugs or go to rehab, surely his death would of been found by now, why is it such a big secret? Because they have a show on Viceland? Because Monster sponsors some Thrasher comps and the park??
Don't they [thrasher] want the drug culture to like thrasher, so they can sell an crazy take on skateboarding that most people can't live up to?
Fuckin hell ride bro. Scabs for slabs. Thrash and burn, yeye
Changes, I think it was Ben's family and not enjoi that wanted to publish his cause of death as suicide. enjoi (well, really Louie) just kindly followed suit. so on that same note i'm guessing that Phelps family doesnt wanna publish his cause of death -- and reiterating the pals who say it time and time again, we don't have a right to know shit. its not a secret, its just private info and sometimes ppl dont wanna share it
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I notice every skateboarder that has passed they’re death hasn’t been announced and what they passed from within days of their passing, except Phelps? Is his death hidden because of how big of a personality he was in skateboard culture? Enjoi announced Ben was suicide to help people reach out for help, Thrasher could announce Phelps death if it was drugs to help people stay away from drugs or go to rehab, surely his death would of been found by now, why is it such a big secret? Because they have a show on Viceland? Because Monster sponsors some Thrasher comps and the park??
Don't they [thrasher] want the drug culture to like thrasher, so they can sell an crazy take on skateboarding that most people can't live up to?
Fuckin hell ride bro. Scabs for slabs. Thrash and burn, yeye
Changes, I think it was Ben's family and not enjoi that wanted to publish his cause of death as suicide. enjoi (well, really Louie) just kindly followed suit. so on that same note i'm guessing that Phelps family doesnt wanna publish his cause of death -- and reiterating the pals who say it time and time again, we don't have a right to know shit. its not a secret, its just private info and sometimes ppl dont wanna share it
If its the family fine buy you hardly know if it is, in fairness.
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its obviously not natural if the family does not want to disclose.
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its obviously not natural if the family does not want to disclose.
Naturally
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its obviously not natural if the family does not want to disclose.
OD'ing on drugs is a pretty HELLRIDE way for Phelps to go out. The truth must be much more embarrassing.
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I wouldn’t lose too much sleep over it. Not making a 3 hour drive isn’t exactly blowing him off.
Over jake lol? I loose sleep over shit like real life shit.
My life was a fucking nightmare ked.
wearing keds like the ramones would definitely be a nightmare