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Title: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: my english is bad on August 03, 2019, 04:21:48 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/B0uEzR6gRsO/?igshid=18q2jlh6ksmf4

https://www.instagram.com/p/B0uDyz4nCLD/?igshid=xcsbl5uotea1
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Post by: Yonnycage on August 03, 2019, 04:24:45 PM
Word I wish I was a little kid getting paid to do handplants
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Post by: winecrab on August 03, 2019, 04:30:00 PM
Damn, what's the rush? He's still a little kid who hasn't even put out a part. I guess this means his part in the toy video is gonna be good.
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Post by: frontside tailgrind on August 03, 2019, 04:36:00 PM
At least wait till he looses that little kid style
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Post by: hmmmokay on August 03, 2019, 04:36:41 PM
This is weird.
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Post by: euro tm on August 03, 2019, 04:38:54 PM
This is weird.

i miss jump of a building era toy
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Post by: doublesteveburger on August 03, 2019, 04:43:10 PM
he’s still little boy machine
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Post by: darwin on August 03, 2019, 05:05:06 PM
This is weird.

Not really, we're in a period in skateboarding where the youth are getting better than the rest of us at a quicker pace because of places like California. Look at how many kids around the age of 10 are getting noticed these days, like the 10 year old who did a boardslide down el toro a few months ago and just won bronze at x-games. Nobody was saying it was weird when Kader went pro even though him and CJ are a similar age and skill level. Over the next few years the age of the average pro is going to decrease a LOT and you can thank all the guys who realised they were too old to make it in skateboarding, but if they had a kid they could live their dreams through them.

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Post by: heckler on August 03, 2019, 05:12:15 PM
RIP Toy Machine
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Post by: shannamal on August 03, 2019, 05:27:51 PM
they typed out 'fuck' but censored 'fucker'? that makes no sense.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: DannyDee on August 03, 2019, 05:32:41 PM
This kid is good, but this is pretty surprising. Has to be one of the youngest people turned pro for a respected company in awhile. Only other person who comes to mind is Kader. Everyone else I can think of are guys like Nyjah and Shekler who went pro for Element and World really young.

Damn, what's the rush? He's still a little kid who hasn't even put out a part. I guess this means his part in the toy video is gonna be good.
He has full-parts out.
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Post by: ArtVandelay on August 03, 2019, 05:34:21 PM
I blame instagram for this trend too.. kids like CJ and Kader have 400k followers. That’s a lot of advertising and marketability power it gives them. They don’t have to put out parts and hustle for years now - just get that follower count up dawg and you pro as fuck!
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: honey island on August 03, 2019, 05:42:25 PM
current era of toy machine is really bad
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Post by: backside bonerless on August 03, 2019, 05:46:07 PM
well atleast if they decide to reboot the tony hawk series we know who will be a secret character

(https://i.gyazo.com/260556626586e9b6cf026c0e68e9aa55.png)
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Post by: feedmeseymour on August 03, 2019, 05:48:44 PM
current era of toy machine is really bad
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Post by: links, pics, and quotes on August 03, 2019, 05:51:03 PM
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https://www.instagram.com/p/B0rd03cAqvg/?igshid=i48u9k6cfhng (https://www.instagram.com/p/B0rd03cAqvg/?igshid=i48u9k6cfhng)
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Post by: Toadfish Rebecchi on August 03, 2019, 05:52:08 PM
Gross
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Post by: FROTHY on August 03, 2019, 05:52:59 PM
This kid is good, but this is pretty surprising. Has to be one of the youngest people turned pro for a respected company in awhile. Only other person who comes to mind is Kader. Everyone else I can think of are guys like Nyjah and Shekler who went pro for Element and World really young.

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Damn, what's the rush? He's still a little kid who hasn't even put out a part. I guess this means his part in the toy video is gonna be good.
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He has full-parts out.

Little kids with full-parts out is right up Templeton's alley.
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Post by: Stephens Lawyer on August 03, 2019, 05:55:16 PM
Alley is code for butt right
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Post by: shit4breakfast on August 03, 2019, 05:56:54 PM
Fuck happened to Toy
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Post by: Christmas Complete on August 03, 2019, 06:04:02 PM
Ugh. I'm not generally a hater, but this kid is the fucking worst. Obviously, "He do good tricks on skateboard", but gross, man. Gross.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: weon on August 03, 2019, 06:39:59 PM
I fucking hate how nowadays every time someone is given a surprise, whether it’s a birthday or any celebration, all they see when they turn around or turn the lights on are a shit ton of cellphones/cameras pointed at them—no faces, no friends, just lenses.

Have a designated filmer/photographer and look your friend in the eyes. Jebus man...
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Post by: CHONGO on August 03, 2019, 06:41:07 PM
Interesting. I’m just surprised it happened now and not awhile ago.
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Post by: Chris Hansen is back on August 03, 2019, 06:50:11 PM
Ersatz Curren Caples needs to go back in the incubator for a few years.
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Post by: TMKF on August 03, 2019, 06:50:54 PM
What is the rush? So weird but I can't say I'm surprised, Ed lost his touch long ago...
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: honey island on August 03, 2019, 06:53:13 PM
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https://www.instagram.com/p/B0rd03cAqvg/?igshid=i48u9k6cfhng (https://www.instagram.com/p/B0rd03cAqvg/?igshid=i48u9k6cfhng)

is this meant to change my mind?
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: hmmmokay on August 03, 2019, 07:13:26 PM
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This is weird.
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Not really, we're in a period in skateboarding where the youth are getting better than the rest of us at a quicker pace because of places like California. Look at how many kids around the age of 10 are getting noticed these days, like the 10 year old who did a boardslide down el toro a few months ago and just won bronze at x-games. Nobody was saying it was weird when Kader went pro even though him and CJ are a similar age and skill level. Over the next few years the age of the average pro is going to decrease a LOT and you can thank all the guys who realised they were too old to make it in skateboarding, but if they had a kid they could live their dreams through them.

I don't have anything against most of what you said. Admittedly I was psyched when Kader went pro, but I think that has more to do with both my own personal bias, combined with Reynolds (and whoever else has a say at Baker/DW) vision for the brand and track record of trying to get the promising youth hooked up quick (Herm, Spanky, Theotis, etc are all good examples).  I do think the fact that CJ is so young (younger than Kader no?) and heavily involved with most contest circuits, is what makes me question this abrupt bump to the pro ranks. It seems like a cash grab*, no matter how much CJ rips (and he does fucking rip), it just feels 'weird' as my original post states. 

*not for Toy Machine, but for CJ and his caretakers, but hey you do you.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: huggs on August 03, 2019, 07:33:40 PM
sick sweet 16 present, idk

kid will def sell to other kids, so there's that?
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Post by: DannyDee on August 03, 2019, 08:08:31 PM
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This is weird.
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Not really, we're in a period in skateboarding where the youth are getting better than the rest of us at a quicker pace because of places like California. Look at how many kids around the age of 10 are getting noticed these days, like the 10 year old who did a boardslide down el toro a few months ago and just won bronze at x-games. Nobody was saying it was weird when Kader went pro even though him and CJ are a similar age and skill level. Over the next few years the age of the average pro is going to decrease a LOT and you can thank all the guys who realised they were too old to make it in skateboarding, but if they had a kid they could live their dreams through them.
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I don't have anything against most of what you said. Admittedly I was psyched when Kader went pro, but I think that has more to do with both my own personal bias, combined with Reynolds (and whoever else has a say at Baker/DW) vision for the brand and track record of trying to get the promising youth hooked up quick (Herm, Spanky, Theotis, etc are all good examples).  I do think the fact that CJ is so young (younger than Kader no?) and heavily involved with most contest circuits, is what makes me question this abrupt bump to the pro ranks. It seems like a cash grab*, no matter how much CJ rips (and he does fucking rip), it just feels 'weird' as my original post states. 

*not for Toy Machine, but for CJ and his caretakers, but hey you do you.
They are about a year apart according to their birthdays on the Vans team.

It is definitely weird though. Toy Machine isn't really a team that has done things like this over the years. This is way more up Element, Birdhouse and Wet Willy Era World's ally.
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Post by: fergus on August 03, 2019, 08:14:39 PM
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Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: weon on August 03, 2019, 08:30:31 PM
how old was bam when he went pro for toy?
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Post by: DannyDee on August 03, 2019, 08:47:45 PM
how old was bam when he went pro for toy?
Around 19 or 20. He got the bump sometime around Jump Off a Building.
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Post by: PatrickSkateman on August 03, 2019, 09:06:51 PM
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current era of toy machine is really bad

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It’ll never be as bad as two-man Toy Machine with Ed and Austin Stephens. Or when Caldwell Berry was on.

Also Blake Carpenter is sick enough to make even Sk8Mafia likable.
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Post by: weon on August 03, 2019, 09:12:14 PM
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how old was bam when he went pro for toy?
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Around 19 or 20. He got the bump sometime around Jump Off a Building.

thanks! in my mind i felt he was younger. granted i was 5 when that came out...

now i'm wondering if i even knew skateboarding existed back then.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: nino brown on August 03, 2019, 09:42:09 PM
more confirmation of what im been posting for years
TOY MACHINE IS FUCKING TRASH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSBS4aEemmE
this fool is so much better and just now turned am for them smfh

why is foundation cooler than toy now? RIP
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Post by: moonordie on August 03, 2019, 09:44:24 PM
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current era of toy machine is extremely bad

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Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: FS-OverKOOK on August 03, 2019, 11:31:06 PM
please don't compare Kader to this park ranger. I'm sure his skate coach is proud tho.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: camel filters on August 04, 2019, 12:24:57 AM
As a long time Toy fan, this current era is...heartbreaking. But they kinda lost me when they continued to throw money at Josh Harmony while letting J-Lay go.

J-Lay at his "worst" is miles above Harmony at his "prime."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZCVJmjjPpo
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: boxlogo on August 04, 2019, 12:32:02 AM
He still rides 139s
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: SkateKitten on August 04, 2019, 12:35:40 AM
I don't like seeing little kids going big at such a young age. They probably will don't have ankles or their level of skating will perish when they reach 20. I admire their level of skill at such a young age, but I don't want the hype to get me. I want to see what will happend to them, when they stop to be cute little kids throwing big stuff. This thing about talented kids scares me.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: puff daddy on August 04, 2019, 12:37:03 AM
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Not really, we're in a period in skateboarding where the youth are getting better than the rest of us at a quicker pace because of places like California. Look at how many kids around the age of 10 are getting noticed these days, like the 10 year old who did a boardslide down el toro a few months ago and just won bronze at x-games. Nobody was saying it was weird when Kader went pro even though him and CJ are a similar age and skill level. Over the next few years the age of the average pro is going to decrease a LOT and you can thank all the guys who realised they were too old to make it in skateboarding, but if they had a kid they could live their dreams through them.

naaah its weird
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: Silky Johnson on August 04, 2019, 12:56:27 AM
Imagine passing on Tre Williams for a run of the mill skatepark kid
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Post by: Kanye Omari West on August 04, 2019, 01:27:34 AM
All I could do was cringe as I scrolled through the comments and saw pros/vets that I respected saying the nod was well deserved and blah blah blah. This kid rips but it's definitely early as fuck for a board.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: eranka on August 04, 2019, 01:36:01 AM
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current era of toy machine is extremely bad

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And even WORSE in Europe. Shitty Chinese boards and bad heat transfers
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Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: heckler on August 04, 2019, 04:31:49 AM
Imagine passing on Tre Williams for a run of the mill skatepark kid
Who else has Toy Machine passed on or slept on,  now? Tyshawn and Jamie Foy sat on flow, and they didn’t do anything with Jordan Taylor for years.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: Backheels on August 04, 2019, 04:39:03 AM
Wayyyyyy too fast
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Post by: rejectpaul on August 04, 2019, 04:43:46 AM
Red bull pro baby
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Post by: Hmmtrue on August 04, 2019, 08:15:35 AM
Would still buy this kids board before Jeremy Libra’s
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: Barf The Mog on August 04, 2019, 08:17:06 AM
What’s the hurry to turn this kid pro? Why would Toy want a Red Bull beanie kid?
Unless Ed is a hypocrite, because Toy makes fun of corporations with their ads.

This is just weird. Toy sleeping on Tre Williams was a huge fuck up.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: RIDEFLANNELV2 on August 04, 2019, 08:43:18 AM
Both Toy Machine and Ed suck these days. This move is premature. Not saying CJ isnt talented and doesn’t deserve sponsorship but these kids need to be groomed and eventually they’ll turn into good pros. Look at Louie Lopez. This is wayyy to soon.

Ed is to busy with his cellphone stuck up his ass to do anything worthy of praise.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: Craig Lutzka on August 04, 2019, 09:14:29 AM
At least Myles got the bump to am out of this. His style is so nice!
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Post by: cheetahsheets on August 04, 2019, 09:34:19 AM
If you have seen myles and cj skate in person it’s a no brainer. I’ve been to a couple toy demos here and there in passing over the past few years. CJ is next level when it comes to live skating. Him, Axel, Leo, and provost are the only dudes I’ve seen on their teams really kill it in person. Everyone else can skate well in person but they are more video skaters. I always felt toy since day 1 was known for demos, so like it’s always been a mixture of dudes who kill it in person and are good/okay on footage, dudes solely on video, and guys with a mixture of both. CJ is the most impressive in person on his best days live minus Leo, Axel, and Provost, and they are way older.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: MexicanSpaniard on August 04, 2019, 09:52:33 AM
gross, why, who the fuck wants a cj collins board
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Post by: schralp pal on August 04, 2019, 11:07:22 AM
maybe he’ll shut us up with the toy video dropping
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Post by: Francis Xavier on August 04, 2019, 11:59:18 AM
I remember his Myspace page his dad made him,been shakin my head ever since.

Toy trying to tap into that contest market since that's all CJ skates.
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Post by: PlugSkullcandy on August 04, 2019, 01:12:10 PM
I wonder how much visibility (followers) translates in board sales. I want statistics.
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Post by: Sick Duck on August 04, 2019, 01:18:05 PM
That kid is gonna be really good in a few years but nobody will care
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Post by: pizzafliptofakie on August 04, 2019, 01:58:14 PM
I remember his Myspace page his dad made him,been shakin my head ever since.

Toy trying to tap into that contest market since that's all CJ skates.

How old was he during this? 2?
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Post by: Vomit Lust on August 04, 2019, 02:13:15 PM
According to Google’s he turns 16 tomorrow. 16 year old pros are not unheard of. It’s not the norm, but hardly rare. He’s got a kooky dad and a kooky hat, but he’s definitely not too young.
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Post by: papo on August 04, 2019, 02:40:05 PM
Why are you motherfuckers hating on this kid? He shreds a million times better than moste of you negative assholes on here LOLOL
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Post by: doublesteveburger on August 04, 2019, 02:42:19 PM
Why are you motherfuckers hating on this kid? He shreds a million times better than moste of you negative assholes on here LOLOL


It has nothing to do with skill


What a god damn waste of a good avatar
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Post by: Francis Xavier on August 04, 2019, 02:49:12 PM
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I remember his Myspace page his dad made him,been shakin my head ever since.

Toy trying to tap into that contest market since that's all CJ skates.
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How old was he during this? 2?
10 years ago so 5/6
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Post by: shannamal on August 04, 2019, 06:58:07 PM
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According to Google’s he turns 16 tomorrow. 16 year old pros are not unheard of. It’s not the norm, but hardly rare. He’s got a kooky dad and a kooky hat, but he’s definitely not too young.
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There was once a guy named Steve Caballero who turned pro at the age of 16. Seemed like no one really had a problem with it aside from the people who had to skate against him.

you're right, CJ collins and Steve Cabellero turning pro are equivalent. skating is the same as it has ever been.
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Post by: Kanye Omari West on August 04, 2019, 07:11:12 PM
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According to Google’s he turns 16 tomorrow. 16 year old pros are not unheard of. It’s not the norm, but hardly rare. He’s got a kooky dad and a kooky hat, but he’s definitely not too young.
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There was once a guy named Steve Caballero who turned pro at the age of 16. Seemed like no one really had a problem with it aside from the people who had to skate against him.

You literally trying to compare Caballero to every ripping 16 year old ever. Please stop. Plus that logic is part of the reason why the status of "pro" has been so watered down up to this point.
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Post by: SickSickSicks on August 04, 2019, 07:30:55 PM
I guess that have to turn SOMEONE pro every once in a while, and who else do they have? They for sure fucked up by sleeping on Tre Williams.
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Post by: waltercronkite on August 04, 2019, 07:37:27 PM
Remember when everyone talked shit on flip for their team full of children?
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Post by: Szechuan on August 04, 2019, 07:45:35 PM
Remember when everyone talked shit on flip for their team full of children?
You say that like it's worked out swimmingly for them.
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Post by: Stephens Lawyer on August 04, 2019, 07:56:17 PM
ya now we talk shit about their team full of adults
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Post by: Surf-goth on August 04, 2019, 08:05:38 PM
RIP Toy Machine

Seriously. Kinda lame now while foundation keeps getting better. Weird huh.
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Post by: Surf-goth on August 04, 2019, 08:18:28 PM
Why are you motherfuckers hating on this kid? He shreds a million times better than moste of you negative assholes on here LOLOL

Dude I usually like you but damn that was a dumbass comment.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: DannyDee on August 04, 2019, 09:16:08 PM
Remember when everyone talked shit on flip for their team full of children?
It didn't seem to work out for them business-wise. But, obviously, Louie became amazing. There have obviously been other groms who got on companies early, and grew into amazing skaters who are well-liked such as Donovan, Grant, Dylan, Tyler Bledsoe, Westgate, etc. Obviously, though, there are also the David Loy's, Chaz Ortiz's of the world.
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Post by: cheetahsheets on August 04, 2019, 09:37:37 PM
Remember when everyone talked shit on flip for their team full of children?

Louie, Daveed, Curren, Luan have all proven there worth/relevance to pro skating imo. They all skated contests well, and also skated video parts well, and demos. That’s a fucking solid team of kids in every aspect no matter what slap shitheads have to say.
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Post by: shannamal on August 04, 2019, 09:44:42 PM
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Remember when everyone talked shit on flip for their team full of children?
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Louie, Daveed, Curren, Luan have all proven there worth/relevance to pro skating imo. They all skated contests well, and also skated video parts well, and demos. That’s a fucking solid team of kids in every aspect no matter what slap shitheads have to say.

and now, depending on who you listen to, they're done. they made a poor bet, and it didn't pay off. i don't want to see toy do the same thing.
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Post by: waltercronkite on August 04, 2019, 09:47:53 PM
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Louie, Daveed, Curren, Luan have all proven there worth/relevance to pro skating imo. They all skated contests well, and also skated video parts well, and demos. That’s a fucking solid team of kids in every aspect no matter what slap shitheads have to say.
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and now, depending on who you listen to, they're done. they made a poor bet, and it didn't pay off. i don't want to see toy do the same thing.

Ya why try to cash in on top end young talent because they may outgrow your company someday
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Post by: DannyDee on August 04, 2019, 10:59:44 PM
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Louie, Daveed, Curren, Luan have all proven there worth/relevance to pro skating imo. They all skated contests well, and also skated video parts well, and demos. That’s a fucking solid team of kids in every aspect no matter what slap shitheads have to say.
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and now, depending on who you listen to, they're done. they made a poor bet, and it didn't pay off. i don't want to see toy do the same thing.
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Ya why try to cash in on top end young talent because they may outgrow your company someday
It was more that it seems they never regained the brand's popularity or relevancy even when they had Louie and Curren still on, and Louie was killing it. Regardless of how good those guys are, Flips transition built around these guys was not successful as a buisness plan. Although, a lot of brands have trouble transitioning from a legendary team to the next era. 
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Post by: shannamal on August 04, 2019, 11:05:05 PM
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Louie, Daveed, Curren, Luan have all proven there worth/relevance to pro skating imo. They all skated contests well, and also skated video parts well, and demos. That’s a fucking solid team of kids in every aspect no matter what slap shitheads have to say.
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and now, depending on who you listen to, they're done. they made a poor bet, and it didn't pay off. i don't want to see toy do the same thing.
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Ya why try to cash in on top end young talent because they may outgrow your company someday
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It was more that it seems they never regained the brand's popularity or relevancy even when they had Louie and Curren still on, and Louie was killing it. Regardless of how good those guys are, Flips transition built around these guys was not successful as a buisness plan. Although, a lot of brands have trouble transitioning from a legendary team to the next era.

this is mainly it. toy had a very clearly defined image for years and years, and now, they don't. that's bothersome to me, and a warning sign. IMO, toy is flip 2.0
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Post by: euro tm on August 04, 2019, 11:14:18 PM
all i know is cj’s dad quit his job to become his full time “agent” and makes more than enough as a 15 year old kid to support him. also gets paid, or at least used to, under the table from redbull. there’s gotta be some kind of law about minors riding for an energy drink company. pretty fucked though.
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Post by: DannyDee on August 04, 2019, 11:20:12 PM
all i know is cj’s dad quit his job to become his full time “agent” and makes more than enough as a 15 year old kid to support him. also gets paid, or at least used to, under the table from redbull. there’s gotta be some kind of law about minors riding for an energy drink company. pretty fucked though.
Sounds like Adeyemi Huston part 2.
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Post by: pointandclick on August 04, 2019, 11:31:13 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/B0uEzR6gRsO/?igshid=18q2jlh6ksmf4

https://www.instagram.com/p/B0uDyz4nCLD/?igshid=xcsbl5uotea1
one more toy board ill never buy.
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Post by: Szechuan on August 04, 2019, 11:41:00 PM
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one more toy board ill never buy.
The lack of care put into that font really annoys me. It's like the 1st basic free Photoshop pack you download from some suspect website.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: WastedHippy on August 04, 2019, 11:54:46 PM
he’s still little boy machine

haha I like you..I like this.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: Syhr on August 05, 2019, 01:22:23 AM
Glad Axel swooped in with the hype. Nothing worse than seeing tonnes of cameras filming it, but no one actually enjoying the moment.

(This might have been the most grumpy old man thing I've ever said, at the ripe old age of 25)
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: shingles on August 05, 2019, 01:52:32 AM
Wouldn't this be considered child-labor?
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: papo on August 05, 2019, 02:28:55 AM
Grown ass men hating on a little kid, LOLOL

The nerve of you
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: cheetahsheets on August 05, 2019, 03:25:38 AM
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Remember when everyone talked shit on flip for their team full of children?
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Louie, Daveed, Curren, Luan have all proven there worth/relevance to pro skating imo. They all skated contests well, and also skated video parts well, and demos. That’s a fucking solid team of kids in every aspect no matter what slap shitheads have to say.
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and now, depending on who you listen to, they're done. they made a poor bet, and it didn't pay off. i don't want to see toy do the same thing.
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Ya why try to cash in on top end young talent because they may outgrow your company someday
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It was more that it seems they never regained the brand's popularity or relevancy even when they had Louie and Curren still on, and Louie was killing it. Regardless of how good those guys are, Flips transition built around these guys was not successful as a buisness plan. Although, a lot of brands have trouble transitioning from a legendary team to the next era.

Yeah, this makes no sense. Organic building and cultivating talent is great. They were insanely good riders, and flip had an insanely good young past. They wanted to recreate that and it failed obviously.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: Cuban_Lynx on August 05, 2019, 09:12:18 AM
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all i know is cj’s dad quit his job to become his full time “agent” and makes more than enough as a 15 year old kid to support him. also gets paid, or at least used to, under the table from redbull. there’s gotta be some kind of law about minors riding for an energy drink company. pretty fucked though.
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Sounds like Adeyemi Huston part 2.
#GIVETHEBENZBACK
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: straight on August 05, 2019, 09:16:48 AM
i wouldn’t be surprised if he has the highest selling model .. it’s a business and we all know who keeps the industry afloat
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: shannamal on August 05, 2019, 09:21:37 AM
i wouldn’t be surprised if he has the highest selling model .. it’s a business and we all know who keeps the industry afloat

SLAP Pals?
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: natenola forever on August 05, 2019, 09:43:17 AM
This kid has a ton of big sponsors a few of them corporate, Toy Machine may have been told to turn him pro or lose him. Also now with the Olympics being a thing this could be relevant to that, he's also destroying all these contest and if he's good enough to compete with the pros it makes more sense that he's able to compete for the higher cash prizes at a pro contest. Skateboarding is in a new change over phase and the last time that happened most of your new pros were between 15-17 years old Mariano, Koston, Mike Carroll, Henry Sanchez, Danny Way, so this isn't a really crazy thing, its just a little different than it has been.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: heckler on August 05, 2019, 09:47:09 AM
I don't think the main complaint is that he's young, but that he hasn't really done much outside a contest circuit and that he doesn't fit Toy Machine in the slightest.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: smellsdead on August 05, 2019, 11:33:30 AM
im not a kid and dont watch kids skate so this is irrelevant

poor toy machine man, isnt this the redbull beanie kid?

disgusting
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: Seadramon on August 05, 2019, 12:51:05 PM
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You say that like it's worked out swimmingly for them.

+1
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: Xen on August 05, 2019, 01:36:47 PM
I blame instagram for this trend too.. kids like CJ and Kader have 400k followers. That’s a lot of advertising and marketability power it gives them. They don’t have to put out parts and hustle for years now - just get that follower count up dawg and you pro as fuck!
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: h00man on August 05, 2019, 01:36:49 PM
CJ is sick. Not gonna be buying his board though.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: Theme For A Jackal on August 05, 2019, 01:40:13 PM
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Why are you motherfuckers hating on this kid? He shreds a million times better than moste of you negative assholes on here LOLOL
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It has nothing to do with skill


What a god damn waste of a good avatar

You're right... it has to do with imaginary 'core' standards that haven't been valid for a decade now
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: links, pics, and quotes on August 05, 2019, 01:53:39 PM
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I wasn't gunna write about this but, due to popular demand, I've decided to share this interesting story about AM skater CJ Collins.

If you didn't know, I am a pretty dark black guy (I'm very sure that alot of you are surprised). I work at Fontana Skateparks which has quite a few pros and ams roll through. One particular night CJ COLLINS was there skating with an unnamed witness. As I entered the park, my witness says, CJ turned his head looked at me and called me a Nigger from the other side of the park. But it was the way he said it. My witness says that he has a hard time describing it (not surprising).

https://fortysevenmag.wixsite.com/home/single-post/2018/02/03/CJ-Collins-Amateur-Racist (https://fortysevenmag.wixsite.com/home/single-post/2018/02/03/CJ-Collins-Amateur-Racist)
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: Stephens Lawyer on August 05, 2019, 01:59:03 PM
i can't believe you guys are questioning the current direction of tote machine

(https://i.imgur.com/QJbzWSnl.png)
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: winecrab on August 05, 2019, 03:22:53 PM
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I wasn't gunna write about this but, due to popular demand, I've decided to share this interesting story about AM skater CJ Collins.

If you didn't know, I am a pretty dark black guy (I'm very sure that alot of you are surprised). I work at Fontana Skateparks which has quite a few pros and ams roll through. One particular night CJ COLLINS was there skating with an unnamed witness. As I entered the park, my witness says, CJ turned his head looked at me and called me a Nigger from the other side of the park. But it was the way he said it. My witness says that he has a hard time describing it (not surprising).
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https://fortysevenmag.wixsite.com/home/single-post/2018/02/03/CJ-Collins-Amateur-Racist (https://fortysevenmag.wixsite.com/home/single-post/2018/02/03/CJ-Collins-Amateur-Racist)

Damn, CJ Collins is a racist and Templeton loves him.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: doublesteveburger on August 05, 2019, 03:26:20 PM
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Why are you motherfuckers hating on this kid? He shreds a million times better than moste of you negative assholes on here LOLOL
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It has nothing to do with skill


What a god damn waste of a good avatar
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You're right... it has to do with imaginary 'core' standards that haven't been valid for a decade now


Yup!
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: SkateKitten on August 05, 2019, 03:34:18 PM
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I wasn't gunna write about this but, due to popular demand, I've decided to share this interesting story about AM skater CJ Collins.

If you didn't know, I am a pretty dark black guy (I'm very sure that alot of you are surprised). I work at Fontana Skateparks which has quite a few pros and ams roll through. One particular night CJ COLLINS was there skating with an unnamed witness. As I entered the park, my witness says, CJ turned his head looked at me and called me a Nigger from the other side of the park. But it was the way he said it. My witness says that he has a hard time describing it (not surprising).
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https://fortysevenmag.wixsite.com/home/single-post/2018/02/03/CJ-Collins-Amateur-Racist (https://fortysevenmag.wixsite.com/home/single-post/2018/02/03/CJ-Collins-Amateur-Racist)
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Damn, CJ Collins is a racist and Templeton loves him.

No surprise. He said the "F" word to an old lady, in his Thrasher part. Bad boy.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: Patey on August 05, 2019, 06:30:38 PM
in b4 this thread is 20 pages
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: squintharder on August 05, 2019, 09:22:53 PM
the fact that he went pro at a contest says it all. shit's kinda lame if you ask me. tricks are cool, still got a little kid style tho.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: Szechuan on August 06, 2019, 12:08:39 AM
the fact that he went pro at a contest says it all. shit's kinda lame if you ask me. tricks are cool, still got a little kid style tho.
I bet Bony turned pro at a contest.
(https://content.quiksilver.com/www/2014.quiksilver.com/html/upload/quiksilver_usa/news/images/2/2009/09/80s-Tony-lo-res_400.jpg)
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: blunted on August 06, 2019, 01:48:55 AM
CJ Collins is the face of privilege. This new generation of pros will all come from kids who were groomed and trained to become pro skaters by there parents. Nothing wrong with that, but the way he tries to rock the beanie and attitude just comes off really fake and Justin Bieberish.
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Post by: blunted on August 06, 2019, 02:01:22 AM
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I wasn't gunna write about this but, due to popular demand, I've decided to share this interesting story about AM skater CJ Collins.

If you didn't know, I am a pretty dark black guy (I'm very sure that alot of you are surprised). I work at Fontana Skateparks which has quite a few pros and ams roll through. One particular night CJ COLLINS was there skating with an unnamed witness. As I entered the park, my witness says, CJ turned his head looked at me and called me a Nigger from the other side of the park. But it was the way he said it. My witness says that he has a hard time describing it (not surprising).
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https://fortysevenmag.wixsite.com/home/single-post/2018/02/03/CJ-Collins-Amateur-Racist (https://fortysevenmag.wixsite.com/home/single-post/2018/02/03/CJ-Collins-Amateur-Racist)
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Damn, CJ Collins is a racist and Templeton loves him.

CJ is Templeton's star. With the amount of star power he has in the mainstream skateboarding industry, he'd have to lynch someone to get called out. He's gonna get a pass cause he's a kid.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: moonordie on August 06, 2019, 02:14:27 AM
That kid is gonna be really good in a few years but nobody will care
He's already super good but a lot of people, including me, won't ever care.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: Captain Creampie on August 06, 2019, 02:37:21 AM
Not gonna save Toy Machine
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: Murge on August 06, 2019, 08:24:06 AM
Damn I have a soft spot for toy. But this kinda ruins it. Not because he’s turning pro at a young age but because he’s a racist Red Bull baby. It also paints Ed in a really hypocritical light. Which also sucks.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: Lenny the Fatface on August 06, 2019, 10:13:58 AM
My gut reaction was that this was wack, but kid has almost 400k followers on insta. It's lame, but a CJ board is basically Ed printing money.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: ScudMantels on August 06, 2019, 10:41:02 AM
We are living in the popularity contest age of skateboarding, every and any skateboarder who hits 250k followers on insta should go pro by default.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: Vomit Lust on August 06, 2019, 11:13:22 AM
Kader went pro right about the time he starting showing up around the Supreme guys, right? It was a use it or lose it situation for Baker.

I’d bet this is the same sort of thing. Offers from other teams were probably coming in. Factor that in with Red Bull, kook skate dad, and actual ability and a long future if he doesn’t pile out, it makes sense to turn him pro.

From a money aspect anyway. He’s constantly on Provost and Leo’s insta. He’s at least coming up around solid dudes. Maybe the kid stands a chance.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: sharkin on August 06, 2019, 11:15:29 AM
If the kid is competing at a pro level in a pro contest, why should he not have a board with his name on?

CJs a little fucker for sure, but he's a little fucker that will sell plenty of boards. You'd be stupid to let him jump to another brand.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: VHS ERA on August 06, 2019, 11:21:49 AM
please don't compare Kader to this park ranger. I'm sure his skate coach is proud tho.
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Post by: bbk on August 06, 2019, 12:02:05 PM

From a money aspect anyway. He’s constantly on Provost and Leo’s insta. He’s at least coming up around solid dudes. Maybe the kid stands a chance.
I follow Colllin, I don't remember anything of him, not even anything about him going pro? Maybe I just missed it.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: Vomit Lust on August 06, 2019, 12:17:10 PM
Constantly wasn’t the right word. But he’s posted some clips of the kid when (I assume) they’re on the road.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: Lenny the Fatface on August 06, 2019, 01:28:43 PM
We are living in the popularity contest age of skateboarding, every and any skateboarder who hits 250k followers on insta should go pro by default.

Its been a popularity contest since street skating became a thing.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: FS-OverKOOK on August 06, 2019, 01:44:43 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/mXKIIfh.png?1)
Looks like skate daddy or uncle ed has been cutting some checks
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: papo on August 06, 2019, 02:00:14 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/mXKIIfh.png?1)
Looks like skate daddy or uncle ed has been cutting some checks

I hate to rain on your discovery but literally everyone is buying followers and likes.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: bo bice on August 06, 2019, 02:00:40 PM
poor man’s T-funk
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: FS-OverKOOK on August 06, 2019, 02:14:50 PM
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Looks like skate daddy or uncle ed has been cutting some checks
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I hate to rain on your discovery but literally everyone is buying followers and likes.
so just one dude would have to not pay and you're wrong...plenty of folks could give a fuck about followers
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Post by: Szechuan on August 06, 2019, 02:24:03 PM
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Looks like skate daddy or uncle ed has been cutting some checks
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I hate to rain on your discovery but literally everyone is buying followers and likes.
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so just one dude would have to not pay and you're wrong...plenty of folks could give a fuck about followers
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AA got that gooooooood engagement son.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: formula420 on August 06, 2019, 02:30:33 PM
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We are living in the popularity contest age of skateboarding, every and any skateboarder who hits 250k followers on insta should go pro by default.
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Its been a popularity contest since street skating became a thing.

Its been a popularity contest since before street skating. That's just humanity.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: Murge on August 06, 2019, 02:38:59 PM
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Looks like skate daddy or uncle ed has been cutting some checks
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I hate to rain on your discovery but literally everyone is buying followers and likes.


I think most of us are aware of that. It’s just funny to see how off their followers really are. Like who’s faking the funk the most.
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Post by: FS-OverKOOK on August 06, 2019, 03:36:57 PM
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Looks like skate daddy or uncle ed has been cutting some checks
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I hate to rain on your discovery but literally everyone is buying followers and likes.
(https://i.imgur.com/JGoc56v.png)
get your umbrella out

Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: somedudefromnj on August 06, 2019, 04:18:11 PM
i dont think its always bought. Most skateboarding hashtags attract fake pages
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Post by: FS-OverKOOK on August 06, 2019, 04:31:27 PM
i dont think its always bought. Most skateboarding hashtags attract fake pages
very true..but i think the new wave thinks likes/views/followers etc are the end all be all. You see it in these comments - oh, he the followers, he should be pro. It reminds me of the where's the fisheye clip saga...the pirate went at DP with follower count. I think plenty of skater's skaters that don't give a shit - guys like AA, dickson, manderson, daan, JJ, etc. that aren't worried about their hashtag game.
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: Xen on August 06, 2019, 07:14:45 PM
It's ridiculously easy to spend a few grand a month on a Chinese click farm to boost whatever you need them too, likes, clicks, reviews, etc...I know firsthand.

https://twistedsifter.com/videos/what-a-chinese-click-farm-looks-like/

I'm also surprised Toy Machine (or anything out of TumYeto) is still a thing in this day and age...moreso for Foundation...who the fuck is buying those boards?
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Post by: cilantro on August 06, 2019, 07:34:07 PM
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very true..but i think the new wave thinks likes/views/followers etc are the end all be all. You see it in these comments - oh, he the followers, he should be pro. It reminds me of the where's the fisheye clip saga...the pirate went at DP with follower count. I think plenty of skater's skaters that don't give a shit - guys like AA, dickson, manderson, daan, JJ, etc. that aren't worried about their hashtag game.
I thought DP meant Duane Peters, which also made sense because his hashtag game is incredibly dedicated.
Toy machine been sus ever since templeton made it a point to argue and defend Josh Harmony’s support of Donald Trump in their IG comments
Title: Re: CJ Collins Pro as fuck
Post by: Ziad on August 06, 2019, 10:03:58 PM
well atleast if they decide to reboot the tony hawk series we know who will be a secret character

(https://i.gyazo.com/260556626586e9b6cf026c0e68e9aa55.png)