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Title: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: Vintagebody on May 04, 2020, 01:35:40 PM
I bought some new bolts, specificly the Thunder 7/8" bolts, and I notice the heads are tiny.
And it seems to be the case with alot of brands... Its terrible.
Why?
1. Trucks will loosen up quicker
2. Will dig deep into the griptape when you need to re-tighten, which u will need to do, 100%.

Indy bolts for lyfe
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: Fred Gerwer Frank Gall on May 04, 2020, 02:13:46 PM
Agree. I thought I was alone...
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: DarkPools on May 04, 2020, 02:28:13 PM
I bought some new bolts, specificly the Thunder 7/8" bolts, and I notice the heads are tiny.
And it seems to be the case with alot of brands... Its terrible.
Why?
1. Trucks will loosen up quicker
2. Will dig deep into the griptape when you need to re-tighten, which u will need to do, 100%.

Indy bolts for lyfe

I have noticed that, also! Agreed
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: pica on May 04, 2020, 02:31:46 PM
Signed!
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: stets on May 04, 2020, 03:07:15 PM
Speaking of bolts, head size, etc...

Am I the only one annoyed by the grip bunching up around the bolt if you try to get the bolt close to fllush? Doesn't happen all the time, but with common bolts and Mob, it was happening to me all the time.

So what I do now is pre-mount my trucks before gripping, so the bolt sucks into the wood like it would normally when you set up a board, it creates a chamfer to the hole. Take the trucks off and grip the board, the grip kinda sinks into the chamfer better when you do it beforehand. Then when you mount your trucks again, the bolts seat nicely and grip doesn't pucker nearly as much.

I know that seems "extra"... but when combined with a larger head bolt like Vintagebody is talking about, it hasn't failed me in my last 7 or 8 decks.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: Skart on May 04, 2020, 03:23:15 PM
O r n a h
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: BL0B on May 04, 2020, 03:42:37 PM
yup, i will also add small nuts to that, ala ShortyS.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: BL0B on May 04, 2020, 03:46:46 PM
Speaking of bolts, head size, etc...

Am I the only one annoyed by the grip bunching up around the bolt if you try to get the bolt close to fllush? Doesn't happen all the time, but with common bolts and Mob, it was happening to me all the time.

So what I do now is pre-mount my trucks before gripping, so the bolt sucks into the wood like it would normally when you set up a board, it creates a chamfer to the hole. Take the trucks off and grip the board, the grip kinda sinks into the chamfer better when you do it beforehand. Then when you mount your trucks again, the bolts seat nicely and grip doesn't pucker nearly as much.

I know that seems "extra"... but when combined with a larger head bolt like Vintagebody is talking about, it hasn't failed me in my last 7 or 8 decks.


this also bums me out.


i grip, poke holes & then use a big Phillips to clean up the holes.


also don't spin bolt.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: authentic_creed_bratton on May 04, 2020, 03:49:13 PM
Speaking of bolts, head size, etc...

Am I the only one annoyed by the grip bunching up around the bolt if you try to get the bolt close to fllush? Doesn't happen all the time, but with common bolts and Mob, it was happening to me all the time.

So what I do now is pre-mount my trucks before gripping, so the bolt sucks into the wood like it would normally when you set up a board, it creates a chamfer to the hole. Take the trucks off and grip the board, the grip kinda sinks into the chamfer better when you do it beforehand. Then when you mount your trucks again, the bolts seat nicely and grip doesn't pucker nearly as much.

I know that seems "extra"... but when combined with a larger head bolt like Vintagebody is talking about, it hasn't failed me in my last 7 or 8 decks.
i just tighten down the nuts instead of the phillips heads and have no problems
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: sketchyrider on May 04, 2020, 05:21:21 PM
i've always wanted hardware opinions, but too scared to ask. shorty's has worked the best for me so far.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: handsclapanin on May 04, 2020, 05:39:54 PM
I'm actually the opposite. I prefer the smaller bolt head. Strictly for the look down factor. That's why I like diamond hardware. 7/8 Allen. Doesn't seem to loosen up any faster than a fat head.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: Ok on May 04, 2020, 05:43:46 PM
I'm actually the opposite. I prefer the smaller bolt head. Strictly for the look down factor. That's why I like diamond hardware. 7/8 Allen. Doesn't seem to loosen up any faster than a fat head.

I want to start off with diamond.
But.
By the 9th time I’ve taken a board apart to put different trucks on I need a wider head. Allen. But....between Indy cross or Phillips I’m not sure which is worse.

Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: fur lined sea on May 04, 2020, 05:56:59 PM
You're all nuts with the exception of this guy:

I'm actually the opposite. I prefer the smaller bolt head. Strictly for the look down factor. That's why I like diamond hardware. 7/8 Allen. Doesn't seem to loosen up any faster than a fat head.

Shortys 7/8 allen lights forever.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: BL0B on May 04, 2020, 06:10:17 PM
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Speaking of bolts, head size, etc...

Am I the only one annoyed by the grip bunching up around the bolt if you try to get the bolt close to fllush? Doesn't happen all the time, but with common bolts and Mob, it was happening to me all the time.

So what I do now is pre-mount my trucks before gripping, so the bolt sucks into the wood like it would normally when you set up a board, it creates a chamfer to the hole. Take the trucks off and grip the board, the grip kinda sinks into the chamfer better when you do it beforehand. Then when you mount your trucks again, the bolts seat nicely and grip doesn't pucker nearly as much.

I know that seems "extra"... but when combined with a larger head bolt like Vintagebody is talking about, it hasn't failed me in my last 7 or 8 decks.
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i just tighten down the nuts instead of the phillips heads and have no problems


i still get wrinkles sometimes twisting the nuts, lol.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: gaunting on May 04, 2020, 07:26:49 PM
I bought some new bolts, specificly the Thunder 7/8" bolts, and I notice the heads are tiny.
And it seems to be the case with alot of brands... Its terrible.
Why?
1. Trucks will loosen up quicker
2. Will dig deep into the griptape when you need to re-tighten, which u will need to do, 100%.

Indy bolts for lyfe

grab some lucky hardware. it isn’t tapered, and smooth at the head like most hardware. but the heads are bigger.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: Yesterdays-pop on May 04, 2020, 08:13:32 PM
Shoes and Gear threads are filled with future doctors.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: drinny on May 04, 2020, 11:58:31 PM
You're all nuts with the exception of this guy:

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I'm actually the opposite. I prefer the smaller bolt head. Strictly for the look down factor. That's why I like diamond hardware. 7/8 Allen. Doesn't seem to loosen up any faster than a fat head.
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Shortys 7/8 allen lights forever.

The grip crumple... doesn’t happen for me, must be a MOB thing.

Shortys 7/8” for life! small heads/no threads/no breaks!

But can’t find them reliably anymore :( plus get more easily trashed and harder to re-use indefinitely now boards and forged plates got thin. Need a 5/8” lol
 
Gutted when I finally stripped a couple, few packs of Almost Thai Sticks substituted well enough once I got over my previous brand loyalty
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: MalHuis on May 05, 2020, 12:02:57 AM
Bigger bolt head put bigger holes/dent in the board, when i skate smaller boards with big bolt heads (Indy) i actually break the board easier on that spot (tail lands). Sucks but true. Bigger boards seem fine with anything but an 8 with indy bolt is a sure break at some point for me.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: drinny on May 05, 2020, 12:12:22 AM
Bolts are maybe the least technical bit of the entire setup thinking about it, if I’d started skating this decade I might have fallen for the Bronze marketing instead (couldn’t believe giant bolt heads and Phillips were acceptable again). I def remember snapping an stupid amount of those generic hardware store non-brand bolts as a poor kid mind you....
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on May 05, 2020, 01:21:06 AM
I’m in team smaller bolts ala shortys but I also grip over my bolts so take that as you will...
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: Utopos on May 05, 2020, 05:15:00 AM
You're all nuts with the exception of this guy:

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I'm actually the opposite. I prefer the smaller bolt head. Strictly for the look down factor. That's why I like diamond hardware. 7/8 Allen. Doesn't seem to loosen up any faster than a fat head.
[close]

Shortys 7/8 allen lights forever.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: johnes on May 05, 2020, 06:03:01 AM
I don’t see any issue with bolts digging into the griptape and board but maybe it’s because I’m not at a high level of skating and only high level skaters break boards more often when bolts dig in?
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: Vintagebody on May 05, 2020, 06:57:35 AM
Well... Bolts with smaller head diameter, distribute the force in a lesser area, obviously. And since they also dig more into the grip/board duo to this, it will "eventually" be touching the deck itself.
A bigger head diameter, like Indy generally has, the griptape works more like a dampning material.
Just a thought.

Oh and I dislike the view of bolts thats far into the griptape.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: layzieyez on May 05, 2020, 08:22:31 AM
Bridge bolts. Come back, it's time.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: schralp pal on May 05, 2020, 09:33:59 AM
I once bought creature bolts, so much green paint on them they were nearly double in thickness, OP should try those.

I think modus is a nice middle ground.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: FrenchFriedClownFingers on May 05, 2020, 09:49:50 AM
the past two years i've thought about this more than a man should. i like smaller heads just for the look, they tend to sit flush with the deck better. your bolts are gonna loosen up not matter what

as far as having the bolts dig into the deck which is called counter sinking, you should use the screw driver or allen wrench to hold the bolt in place and tighten from the side the nut is on. you will also avoid bunching up the grip around the head of the bolt as well.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: sketchyrider on May 05, 2020, 10:08:03 AM
I once bought creature bolts, so much green paint on them they were nearly double in thickness, OP should try those.

same with shake junt...if you can stomach the silliness
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: Vintagebody on May 05, 2020, 10:12:21 AM
the past two years i've thought about this more than a man should. i like smaller heads just for the look, they tend to sit flush with the deck better. your bolts are gonna loosen up not matter what

as far as having the bolts dig into the deck which is called counter sinking, you should use the screw driver or allen wrench to hold the bolt in place and tighten from the side the nut is on. you will also avoid bunching up the grip around the head of the bolt as well.

Smaller heads has less surface area, and the countersunk angle might be different too.
It will:
1. Be easier to tighten flush, duo to lesser surface area to "sink"
2. Get loose quicker
^ Pretty logical

What I mean by digging into the griptape is duo having to tighten them after "awhile". It will happen sooner with these tiny heads...
I want to reduce loose trucks at all costs, cause it makes the baseplate holes bigger = not good.


Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: myfeetarekillingme on May 05, 2020, 10:36:05 AM
Speaking of bolts, head size, etc...

Am I the only one annoyed by the grip bunching up around the bolt if you try to get the bolt close to fllush? Doesn't happen all the time, but with common bolts and Mob, it was happening to me all the time.

So what I do now is pre-mount my trucks before gripping, so the bolt sucks into the wood like it would normally when you set up a board, it creates a chamfer to the hole. Take the trucks off and grip the board, the grip kinda sinks into the chamfer better when you do it beforehand. Then when you mount your trucks again, the bolts seat nicely and grip doesn't pucker nearly as much.

I know that seems "extra"... but when combined with a larger head bolt like Vintagebody is talking about, it hasn't failed me in my last 7 or 8 decks.

In the time it takes you to do this you could just drive to Home Depot and get a drill with some countersink bits. Alternatively, just don't use sucky phillips hardware- use allen (harder to strip & more secure when mounting) and hold it tight while you tighten the nuts down and your grip won't get all fucked up
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: drinny on May 05, 2020, 10:55:18 AM
Love the junk science in Slap threads lol. Said this before but drop of glue on the nuts when mounting... save yourself the bother of loose baseplates...
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: Abyss1 on May 05, 2020, 11:03:13 AM
Love the junk science in Slap threads lol. Said this before but drop of glue on the nuts when mounting... save yourself the bother of loose baseplates...
Shalom science
...also not sure but I’ve noticed I always strip the screw when the heads are to small as I tighten...always get bummed on stripped screws and can’t get them to fit screw driver tips tightly (yes I tighten bolt side and it still happens)
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: Vintagebody on May 05, 2020, 11:08:16 AM
Love the junk science in Slap threads lol. Said this before but drop of glue on the nuts when mounting... save yourself the bother of loose baseplates...

Problem is that griptape is not a hard material, nor is the the deck. Over time, the sunk will become looser from  the different forces. If you use a good amount of glue at the head, so it forms to the countersunk hole and everything, then it will be better.

Now, with bigger bolt heads, like Indy's, this problem is much less.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: HugeBodBoyle on May 05, 2020, 11:13:46 AM
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Speaking of bolts, head size, etc...

Am I the only one annoyed by the grip bunching up around the bolt if you try to get the bolt close to fllush? Doesn't happen all the time, but with common bolts and Mob, it was happening to me all the time.

So what I do now is pre-mount my trucks before gripping, so the bolt sucks into the wood like it would normally when you set up a board, it creates a chamfer to the hole. Take the trucks off and grip the board, the grip kinda sinks into the chamfer better when you do it beforehand. Then when you mount your trucks again, the bolts seat nicely and grip doesn't pucker nearly as much.

I know that seems "extra"... but when combined with a larger head bolt like Vintagebody is talking about, it hasn't failed me in my last 7 or 8 decks.
[close]


this also bums me out.


i grip, poke holes & then use a big Phillips to clean up the holes.


also don't spin bolt.

That's how I do it. Taking pride in your grip work is nice.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: Vintagebody on May 05, 2020, 11:15:44 AM
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Love the junk science in Slap threads lol. Said this before but drop of glue on the nuts when mounting... save yourself the bother of loose baseplates...
[close]
Shalom science
...also not sure but I’ve noticed I always strip the screw when the heads are to small as I tighten...always get bummed on stripped screws and can’t get them to fit screw driver tips tightly (yes I tighten bolt side and it still happens)

Philips is not bad, but it doesnt take much force. You could say it works as intended when you strip the bolt head  :P Its purpose is for the screwdriver/bit to slip out, instead of potentially snapping the bolt. They are simply a weak design. Hex is good, Torx is best. I wish there was Torx skate bolts.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: FROTHY on May 05, 2020, 11:23:19 AM
I have no clue how I worked at a skateshop and regularly gripped boards before Mob grip without fucking them up. What I do know is that we, like most skateshops, had a dedicated bolt-hole poker. It's basically a screwdriver turned into a shank from filing the edge of the griptape. Skate companies sell all sorts of useless swag, but nobody has capitalized on the bolt-hole shank market....
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: HugeBodBoyle on May 05, 2020, 11:33:02 AM
This past weekend I watched a dude roll up to the park on a fairly new board with tie dye grip on it, but he was conspicuously holding a new sheet of Shake Junt. I was not prepared for what followed-

He ripped off the tie dye grip, sticking the pieces to the side of the hubba. Then he just put the Shake Junt over his bolts and DID NOT CUT IT. Just skated the rest of the session on a board with a massive rectangle of grip on his deck all flopping around. 
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: PAWL on May 05, 2020, 11:39:31 AM
This past weekend I watched a dude roll up to the park on a fairly new board with tie dye grip on it, but he was conspicuously holding a new sheet of Shake Junt. I was not prepared for what followed-

He ripped off the tie dye grip, sticking the pieces to the side of the hubba. Then he just put the Shake Junt over his bolts and DID NOT CUT IT. Just skated the rest of the session on a board with a massive rectangle of grip on his deck all flopping around.

well at least now you know who to ask if you want to get some acid
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: Ok on May 05, 2020, 11:44:45 AM
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This past weekend I watched a dude roll up to the park on a fairly new board with tie dye grip on it, but he was conspicuously holding a new sheet of Shake Junt. I was not prepared for what followed-

He ripped off the tie dye grip, sticking the pieces to the side of the hubba. Then he just put the Shake Junt over his bolts and DID NOT CUT IT. Just skated the rest of the session on a board with a massive rectangle of grip on his deck all flopping around.
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well at least now you know who to ask if you want to get some acid


I go to skateparks, and suffer, shamefully attempting slow switch flips in the corner, in hopes of seeing this type of situation. Something about skateparks....kids that need to meet up with their dealer? Why not the skatepark? Especially if neither party skates. This all may be more true in less metro places.


Frothy very correct with the shank recommendation. Big help.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: Vintagebody on May 05, 2020, 11:51:46 AM
I advice against using anything but a needle to make holes. Smaller holes will give more griptape material to act as dampning material for the bolt, especially if its smaller heads.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: tom on May 05, 2020, 05:09:01 PM
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Love the junk science in Slap threads lol. Said this before but drop of glue on the nuts when mounting... save yourself the bother of loose baseplates...
[close]
Shalom science
...also not sure but I’ve noticed I always strip the screw when the heads are to small as I tighten...always get bummed on stripped screws and can’t get them to fit screw driver tips tightly (yes I tighten bolt side and it still happens)
Different Phillips head bolts might take a different Phillips driver size. Using one too big or too small can strip the head. If you have a drill use the torque setting to find your sweet spot
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: fang on May 05, 2020, 06:52:05 PM
You're all nuts with the exception of this guy:

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I'm actually the opposite. I prefer the smaller bolt head. Strictly for the look down factor. That's why I like diamond hardware. 7/8 Allen. Doesn't seem to loosen up any faster than a fat head.
[close]

Shortys 7/8 allen lights forever.

This is not an opinion, this is a fact
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: authentic_creed_bratton on May 05, 2020, 07:05:04 PM
who remembers randoms? this shit ruled

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/iYQGZAVlOnr31g8ZL369ZR6VUIDJ8zypZCcL1H1F0FLhjaHQBPU9OaV1tYgzThXgAQ-Lg-51Dnp7eUxxdAKONhpzz_TP)
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: Diocletian on May 05, 2020, 08:13:28 PM
I’m confused on what you guys mean, bigger or smaller bolt heads? Aren’t they all the same size just different lengths? Some are just threaded all the way to the head, others only threaded 3/4 of the way. The nuts are also the same except those 7/8” shortys they use slim ones which are great but I always have to press down hard with my tool or else it doesn’t grab the nut sometimes when turning and slips off. I agree with some of the comments, always hold the bolt in place and turn the nut.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: lysdexia on May 05, 2020, 08:50:04 PM
I’m confused on what you guys mean, bigger or smaller bolt heads? Aren’t they all the same size just different lengths?

different brands have different sized heads.  indy bolts are substantially larger than diamond or shortys for example.

I like the small stuff way better, from a purely aesthetic standpoint.  i've never had a problem stemming from the head diameter.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: Ok on May 05, 2020, 09:08:39 PM
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I’m confused on what you guys mean, bigger or smaller bolt heads? Aren’t they all the same size just different lengths?
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different brands have different sized heads.  indy bolts are substantially larger than diamond or shortys for example.

I like the small stuff way better, from a purely aesthetic standpoint.  i've never had a problem stemming from the head diameter.

In modern times I’ve always chosen 7/8 Allen, but this thread is making me want the round, like domed, Phillips that I see when I’m looking at early 80’s setups
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: stets on May 06, 2020, 01:36:05 AM
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Speaking of bolts, head size, etc...
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In the time it takes you to do this you could just drive to Home Depot and get a drill with some countersink bits. Alternatively, just don't use sucky phillips hardware- use allen (harder to strip & more secure when mounting) and hold it tight while you tighten the nuts down and your grip won't get all fucked up

Yeah, only the closest hardware store is over 20 min away, so that's not accurate. Also, I'm aware of countersink bits, I've used one helping make the screws on a friend's new ramp flush with the skatelight. My main worry about a true countersink is removing material rather than just compressing it... in my "armchair science" theory, cutting the material away would make the board weaker than compressing it down.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: Sativa Lung on May 06, 2020, 02:55:50 AM
A little while back I looked into bulk hardware and lucked out by finding 1" Allen on closeout at grainger. 100 bolts for 96 cents, so I bought out the rest of the inventory. Matte black, but if I want a colored bolt I just use nail polish or one of those metallic ink sharpies.

They have nice wide heads and don't sink down through the grip or twist it when you tighten them. I'm not 100% confident that they wouldn't bend on a 15 stair or something but I'm never going to find out so they're perfect for me. If anyone wants/needs a few sets then just shoot me a pm.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: Xen on May 06, 2020, 09:29:45 AM
You're all nuts with the exception of this guy:

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I'm actually the opposite. I prefer the smaller bolt head. Strictly for the look down factor. That's why I like diamond hardware. 7/8 Allen. Doesn't seem to loosen up any faster than a fat head.
[close]

Shortys 7/8 allen lights forever.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: Skateboard Shuffle on May 06, 2020, 01:43:23 PM
Put the nut on the top side of the board. Problem solved. Plus it helps with sweet ollies and provides more grip.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: legion on May 06, 2020, 03:15:02 PM
Big head and/or Phillips bolts scream Walmart complete.

I like Shortys cuz the smooth shank portion is longer than other bolts. Wanna compare Thunders or just try 1-1/8" or 1-1/4" to get the shank part completely into the baseplate. Idc if I gotta cut some new threads or cut the bolt down..

For new bolts I usually cycle them a few times and then let them sit overnight. This gives them their initial stretch so they don't stretch and loosen later. It's a gearhead thing..
I mount trucks on an ungripped decks first, I don't grip over the bolts.. This also dents/countersinks the bolt holes like a Dwindle double impact deck. Helps to get your bolts flusher and compresses the wood so that's not happening when you mount your shit.
Tighten bolts in a star pattern like mounting a car tire.. 4-lug wheel..
Tighten in stages and feel for a uniform amount of torque.
Try to get the bolts flush with the grip or a tiny bit lower.
My shit rarely loosens up and I never break bolts.

The thinner nuts that Shortys use might not stay as tight as the regular height stuff.

Griptape grit under the bolt head can also cause loosening as it breaks up over time.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: hillbilly shifty on May 06, 2020, 06:13:13 PM
I love the Indy combi bolts, they can use either allen or phillips tool, and the shank is solid like shorty's.
Not sure Indy makes them anymore, but i have a few sets in both 1" and 7/8"
If i'm running the 7/8" with cast plates, i use the thin shorty's nuts with them. Allows the bolt to come above the nylon of the nut a bit more.
Here's a shot of them, with a Shorty placed on top of one to compare head sizes.
(my OCD requires that the 'cross' on all bolt heads are all exactly aligned north/south to the nose/tail)

(https://i.imgur.com/DxUfjBXl.jpg)
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: Diocletian on May 07, 2020, 08:08:52 AM
I've been running shorty's 7/8 or 1" phillips for pretty much my entire life and never even noticed they have a smaller bolt head. Mind=blown
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: layzieyez on May 07, 2020, 09:44:00 AM
Theeve titanium hardware. Allen.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: moonordie on May 07, 2020, 09:48:39 AM
I'm pretty aware that I'm a maniac but thankfully I've never cared about hardware as long they're 1" or 7/8" worst case scenario.
Title: Re: Bolts With Small Heads = Not Good
Post by: kneebone on May 07, 2020, 10:58:27 AM
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You're all nuts with the exception of this guy:

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I'm actually the opposite. I prefer the smaller bolt head. Strictly for the look down factor. That's why I like diamond hardware. 7/8 Allen. Doesn't seem to loosen up any faster than a fat head.
[close]

Shortys 7/8 allen lights forever.
[close]

This is not an opinion, this is a fact