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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: laramieskate55 on September 24, 2020, 10:40:56 PM
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Being real, they are both clowns.
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Neckface has got to be one of the dumbest people walking the face of the earth, why would they want to be friends with him anyway?
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Trashy people being trash.
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Im team neck, I hope TNT comes on here to tell everyone to DM him like a man
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Probably turned down doing album art for Badshit
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Being real, they are both clowns.
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whose trixie? tnt make the switch?
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Adults airing out beef through social media is still such a wild concept to me.
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Maybe something happened we don't now about? I don't know either and have been around SF and LA when they were doing their thing and naghhh not going to lie don't seem like trustworthy people neither TnT and his family or Neckface.
I have heard from NYC homies he got run the fuck outta LES for disrespecting fools tags and pieces so that speaks volumes on his character.
They look like they smell of cat piss and dog turds absolute Jerry Springer trailer trash fucks.
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Adults airing out beef through social media is still such a wild concept to me.
The term "Adult" can only be applied to these two very loosely.
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Adults airing out beef through social media is still such a wild concept to me.
I get anxiety when my wife posts a recent picture of me on Facebook.
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i know this is Slap, and there's room for everything, but especially since--a true pillar such as--Huf's passing is still so new and hard to accept and everyone's hurting from it, the fact that these threads focused on insignificant parasites like Trixie and Dirtbag belong in "Whatever," is especially glaring...one man's opinion...
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Adults airing out beef through social media is still such a wild concept to me.
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neckface > tnt
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Anybody have the detail
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i know this is Slap, and there's room for everything, but especially since--a true pillar such as--Huf's passing is still so new and hard to accept and everyone's hurting from it, the fact that these threads focused on insignificant parasites like Trixie and Dirtbag belong in "Whatever," is especially glaring...one man's opinion...
Sometimes it's nice to have a distraction from life's heavier goings-on. Although I agree the guy who's drawn the same picture for 15 years blocking on Instagram the woman whose husband beat a teammate's girlfriend in his front yard is a very low quality distraction.
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can't wait for the neckface movie where he's played by jack black
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- Liking Neckface
-Being 14
Pick one .
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I love it. She’s a fucking train wreck. If you’re constantly beefing with your “friends,” blocking them, talking shit, whatever, the problem probably isn’t the other people.
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neckface > tnt
This. Neck is the shit.
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i know this is Slap, and there's room for everything, but especially since--a true pillar such as--Huf's passing is still so new and hard to accept and everyone's hurting from it, the fact that these threads focused on insignificant parasites like Trixie and Dirtbag belong in "Whatever," is especially glaring...one man's opinion...
Sometimes it's nice to have a distraction from life's heavier goings-on. Although I agree the guy who's drawn the same picture for 15 years blocking on Instagram the woman whose husband beat a teammate's girlfriend in his front yard is a very low quality distraction.
Agreed.
That said, I have no pigdog in this race. Even though I’m a Baker fanboy, under normal circumstances I refuse to buy anything with a Neckface graphic on it. It’s all just like blood, demons, buttholes, demons’ buttholes, etc. Not feeling it. And the Trujillos? Shit, you’ll end up with bedbugs just from visiting their insta. You’d think shitties would get along with other shitties, but here we are.
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i know this is Slap, and there's room for everything, but especially since--a true pillar such as--Huf's passing is still so new and hard to accept and everyone's hurting from it, the fact that these threads focused on insignificant parasites like Trixie and Dirtbag belong in "Whatever," is especially glaring...one man's opinion...
Sometimes it's nice to have a distraction from life's heavier goings-on. Although I agree the guy who's drawn the same picture for 15 years blocking on Instagram the woman whose husband beat a teammate's girlfriend in his front yard is a very low quality distraction.
Agreed.
That said, I have no pigdog in this race. Even though I’m a Baker fanboy, under normal circumstances I refuse to buy anything with a Neckface graphic on it. It’s all just like blood, demons, buttholes, demons’ buttholes, etc. Not feeling it. And the Trujillos? Shit, you’ll end up with bedbugs just from visiting their insta. You’d think shitties would get along with other shitties, but here we are.
That reminded me of this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjzQqk6CZIY
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i know this is Slap, and there's room for everything, but especially since--a true pillar such as--Huf's passing is still so new and hard to accept and everyone's hurting from it, the fact that these threads focused on insignificant parasites like Trixie and Dirtbag belong in "Whatever," is especially glaring...one man's opinion...
Sometimes it's nice to have a distraction from life's heavier goings-on. Although I agree the guy who's drawn the same picture for 15 years blocking on Instagram the woman whose husband beat a teammate's girlfriend in his front yard is a very low quality distraction.
Agreed.
That said, I have no pigdog in this race. Even though I’m a Baker fanboy, under normal circumstances I refuse to buy anything with a Neckface graphic on it. It’s all just like blood, demons, buttholes, demons’ buttholes, etc. Not feeling it. And the Trujillos? Shit, you’ll end up with bedbugs just from visiting their insta. You’d think shitties would get along with other shitties, but here we are.
That reminded me of this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjzQqk6CZIY
I want to like that song but it just sounds like a bad American version of Wire.
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Adults airing out beef through social media is still such a wild concept to me.
Adults in this modern era that conduct a lot of business via social media airing out beef through social media really isn't a wild concept though. Ill advised but if you think it's that off the wall then I'ma pray for you.
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i know this is Slap, and there's room for everything, but especially since--a true pillar such as--Huf's passing is still so new and hard to accept and everyone's hurting from it, the fact that these threads focused on insignificant parasites like Trixie and Dirtbag belong in "Whatever," is especially glaring...one man's opinion...
Sometimes it's nice to have a distraction from life's heavier goings-on. Although I agree the guy who's drawn the same picture for 15 years blocking on Instagram the woman whose husband beat a teammate's girlfriend in his front yard is a very low quality distraction.
Agreed.
That said, I have no pigdog in this race. Even though I’m a Baker fanboy, under normal circumstances I refuse to buy anything with a Neckface graphic on it. It’s all just like blood, demons, buttholes, demons’ buttholes, etc. Not feeling it. And the Trujillos? Shit, you’ll end up with bedbugs just from visiting their insta. You’d think shitties would get along with other shitties, but here we are.
That reminded me of this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjzQqk6CZIY
I want to like that song but it just sounds like a bad American version of Wire.
i disagree, but this is not the most indicative song to try to get into the joos. maybe take in a smith and jones forever or a slow education because they are one of the finest american bands of the last 30 years
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i know this is Slap, and there's room for everything, but especially since--a true pillar such as--Huf's passing is still so new and hard to accept and everyone's hurting from it, the fact that these threads focused on insignificant parasites like Trixie and Dirtbag belong in "Whatever," is especially glaring...one man's opinion...
Sometimes it's nice to have a distraction from life's heavier goings-on. Although I agree the guy who's drawn the same picture for 15 years blocking on Instagram the woman whose husband beat a teammate's girlfriend in his front yard is a very low quality distraction.
Agreed.
That said, I have no pigdog in this race. Even though I’m a Baker fanboy, under normal circumstances I refuse to buy anything with a Neckface graphic on it. It’s all just like blood, demons, buttholes, demons’ buttholes, etc. Not feeling it. And the Trujillos? Shit, you’ll end up with bedbugs just from visiting their insta. You’d think shitties would get along with other shitties, but here we are.
That reminded me of this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjzQqk6CZIY
I want to like that song but it just sounds like a bad American version of Wire.
Smith and Jones Forever is actually a tune, just listened to it, I'll give you that.
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Isn't neck face the next Phelps?
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My guess is that it has something to do with Jake Phelps's birthday.
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Being real, they are both clowns.
a·dult
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a person who is fully grown or developed.
"children should be accompanied by an adult"
Is anyone an adult?
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“For those asking about this”
Yeah right as if anyone would ask about this even if they could see who’s blocking who. you morons are just starved for attention lol I’m team neck on this, fuck the trujillos
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Being real, they are both clowns.
a·dult
/əˈdəlt,ˈadˌəlt/
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noun
a person who is fully grown or developed.
"children should be accompanied by an adult"
Is anyone an adult?
Good question. Here’s my stab at it.
Neck, TNT, his wife, etc. are probably as grown or developed as they are ever going to get. So maybe they are adults, but just not very mature ones.
I’ve probably said this here before, but anyone that expects people that have never had jobs and spend all day skateboarding to display even average maturity are going to be let down.
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“For those asking about this”
Yeah right as if anyone would ask about this even if they could see who’s blocking who. you morons are just starved for attention lol I’m team neck on this, fuck the trujillos
I mean it’s now a two page thread on Slap so who are the idiots here? We’re all in this cesspool together now
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i know this is Slap, and there's room for everything, but especially since--a true pillar such as--Huf's passing is still so new and hard to accept and everyone's hurting from it, the fact that these threads focused on insignificant parasites like Trixie and Dirtbag belong in "Whatever," is especially glaring...one man's opinion...
Sometimes it's nice to have a distraction from life's heavier goings-on. Although I agree the guy who's drawn the same picture for 15 years blocking on Instagram the woman whose husband beat a teammate's girlfriend in his front yard is a very low quality distraction.
Agreed.
That said, I have no pigdog in this race. Even though I’m a Baker fanboy, under normal circumstances I refuse to buy anything with a Neckface graphic on it. It’s all just like blood, demons, buttholes, demons’ buttholes, etc. Not feeling it. And the Trujillos? Shit, you’ll end up with bedbugs just from visiting their insta. You’d think shitties would get along with other shitties, but here we are.
That reminded me of this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjzQqk6CZIY
I want to like that song but it just sounds like a bad American version of Wire.
Bad version of Wire? What a absurdly random and outrageous claim. Similar color schemes on the album art ill give you that
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i know this is Slap, and there's room for everything, but especially since--a true pillar such as--Huf's passing is still so new and hard to accept and everyone's hurting from it, the fact that these threads focused on insignificant parasites like Trixie and Dirtbag belong in "Whatever," is especially glaring...one man's opinion...
Sometimes it's nice to have a distraction from life's heavier goings-on. Although I agree the guy who's drawn the same picture for 15 years blocking on Instagram the woman whose husband beat a teammate's girlfriend in his front yard is a very low quality distraction.
Agreed.
That said, I have no pigdog in this race. Even though I’m a Baker fanboy, under normal circumstances I refuse to buy anything with a Neckface graphic on it. It’s all just like blood, demons, buttholes, demons’ buttholes, etc. Not feeling it. And the Trujillos? Shit, you’ll end up with bedbugs just from visiting their insta. You’d think shitties would get along with other shitties, but here we are.
That reminded me of this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjzQqk6CZIY
I want to like that song but it just sounds like a bad American version of Wire.
Bad version of Wire? What a absurdly random and outrageous claim. Similar color schemes on the album art ill give you that
I was thinking the same thing about the colour scheme looking like Pink Flag. I never got heavily into the Silver Jews but that Purple Mountains album clicked with me. Would love to hear that scrapped album he recorded with Black Mountain.
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husband beat a teammate's girlfriend in his front yard is a very low quality distraction.
wait what
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neckface > tnt
real? nahh. Neck might be a graf hero but this is a skate forum and tnt has done more for skate than nasty no-neck.
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I’ve seen Trixie and TNT at a Vans event and both seem like a wild bunch compared to say normal boring parents. So when the Priya thing happened, I sort of sided with her thing she was the more reasonable one. But now she’s sucking dick on Pornhub and Andy went back on drugs so not sure who to believe.
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real? nahh. Neck might be a graf hero but this is a skate forum and tnt has done more for skate than nasty no-neck.
neck might be obnoxious and maybe annoying, but tnt has proved to be a whiny & stubborn prick to a lot of people in the industry. anyone who has had a run in, industry or not has not had great stories to tell about his attitude or presence.
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real? nahh. Neck might be a graf hero but this is a skate forum and tnt has done more for skate than nasty no-neck.
Graf hero is a stretch also.
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If I only gave a shit
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I think Trixie's just trying to drum up some attention..
Another lil joke for ya... TNT's thicc trendy glasses. - Na but for real he looks like one of those emo kids who wore the 3d cinema glasses with the lenses popped out for months after leaving the cinema. Sometimes i'm surprised he's not signing off his IG posts with "RAWR XD". Na na, i get it, it's dad punk
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If I only gave a Bad shit
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I wish I didn’t know about trixie or social media
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husband beat a teammate's girlfriend in his front yard is a very low quality distraction.
wait what
Much to learn, young grasshopper:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=100739.0
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I wish I didn’t know about trixie or social media
well, wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first
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i know this is Slap, and there's room for everything, but especially since--a true pillar such as--Huf's passing is still so new and hard to accept and everyone's hurting from it, the fact that these threads focused on insignificant parasites like Trixie and Dirtbag belong in "Whatever," is especially glaring...one man's opinion...
Sometimes it's nice to have a distraction from life's heavier goings-on. Although I agree the guy who's drawn the same picture for 15 years blocking on Instagram the woman whose husband beat a teammate's girlfriend in his front yard is a very low quality distraction.
Agreed.
That said, I have no pigdog in this race. Even though I’m a Baker fanboy, under normal circumstances I refuse to buy anything with a Neckface graphic on it. It’s all just like blood, demons, buttholes, demons’ buttholes, etc. Not feeling it. And the Trujillos? Shit, you’ll end up with bedbugs just from visiting their insta. You’d think shitties would get along with other shitties, but here we are.
That reminded me of this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjzQqk6CZIY
I want to like that song but it just sounds like a bad American version of Wire.
Bad version of Wire? What a absurdly random and outrageous claim. Similar color schemes on the album art ill give you that
I was thinking the same thing about the colour scheme looking like Pink Flag. I never got heavily into the Silver Jews but that Purple Mountains album clicked with me. Would love to hear that scrapped album he recorded with Black Mountain.
It's just the guy(s) from pavement incase anyone didn't know.
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i know this is Slap, and there's room for everything, but especially since--a true pillar such as--Huf's passing is still so new and hard to accept and everyone's hurting from it, the fact that these threads focused on insignificant parasites like Trixie and Dirtbag belong in "Whatever," is especially glaring...one man's opinion...
Sometimes it's nice to have a distraction from life's heavier goings-on. Although I agree the guy who's drawn the same picture for 15 years blocking on Instagram the woman whose husband beat a teammate's girlfriend in his front yard is a very low quality distraction.
Agreed.
That said, I have no pigdog in this race. Even though I’m a Baker fanboy, under normal circumstances I refuse to buy anything with a Neckface graphic on it. It’s all just like blood, demons, buttholes, demons’ buttholes, etc. Not feeling it. And the Trujillos? Shit, you’ll end up with bedbugs just from visiting their insta. You’d think shitties would get along with other shitties, but here we are.
That reminded me of this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjzQqk6CZIY
I want to like that song but it just sounds like a bad American version of Wire.
Bad version of Wire? What a absurdly random and outrageous claim. Similar color schemes on the album art ill give you that
I was thinking the same thing about the colour scheme looking like Pink Flag. I never got heavily into the Silver Jews but that Purple Mountains album clicked with me. Would love to hear that scrapped album he recorded with Black Mountain.
It's just the guy(s) from pavement incase anyone didn't know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvRgC0pMIoc
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Think she deleted it.
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I have an artist friend who taught at SVA when Neck Face was there (though did not teach him), and ran in the same circles as him, and all I know is that he absolutely hates his guts and has never had a remotely kind thing to say about him. I never really bothered to find out why, and I am not going to ask at this point, but I just remember him complaining about it in like 2003, when I took a photo of some Neck Face graffiti and got yelled at
Also lol @ the guy who said that the Silver Jews were a bad American version of Wire. Galaxy brain take right there
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Necklaces' art is awful. It's like the stuff a regular toddler would draw.
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i know this is Slap, and there's room for everything, but especially since--a true pillar such as--Huf's passing is still so new and hard to accept and everyone's hurting from it, the fact that these threads focused on insignificant parasites like Trixie and Dirtbag belong in "Whatever," is especially glaring...one man's opinion...
Sometimes it's nice to have a distraction from life's heavier goings-on. Although I agree the guy who's drawn the same picture for 15 years blocking on Instagram the woman whose husband beat a teammate's girlfriend in his front yard is a very low quality distraction.
Agreed.
That said, I have no pigdog in this race. Even though I’m a Baker fanboy, under normal circumstances I refuse to buy anything with a Neckface graphic on it. It’s all just like blood, demons, buttholes, demons’ buttholes, etc. Not feeling it. And the Trujillos? Shit, you’ll end up with bedbugs just from visiting their insta. You’d think shitties would get along with other shitties, but here we are.
That reminded me of this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjzQqk6CZIY
I want to like that song but it just sounds like a bad American version of Wire.
Let’s just turn this into a David Berman thread. Purple Mountains is one of the best albums made
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Two kids fighting like this... you just hate to see it.
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i didnt realize anybody cared about these two
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Adults airing out beef through social media is still such a wild concept to me.
the kids I meet at the skatepark versus the people I went to high school with, who's nuttier? Adults can't handle social media...
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Tony and his family are all really nice people
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All my favorite singers couldn’t sing.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ogk-eX-hIQ
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Clambering for relevance ....
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I have an artist friend who taught at SVA when Neck Face was there (though did not teach him), and ran in the same circles as him, and all I know is that he absolutely hates his guts and has never had a remotely kind thing to say about him. I never really bothered to find out why, and I am not going to ask at this point, but I just remember him complaining about it in like 2003, when I took a photo of some Neck Face graffiti and got yelled at
Also lol @ the guy who said that the Silver Jews were a bad American version of Wire. Galaxy brain take right there
My friends older brother was in classes with him at SVA and said he was not well liked by many. Always says he “hates that piece of shit graffiti artist and his shitty work.”
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Neckface has got to be one of the dumbest people walking the face of the earth, why would they want to be friends with him anyway?
1000000000%
Never been a fan.
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I don't know him, but I know that I am not a huge fan of his art from a purely, "do I like this aesthetically" stance. But, Spanly really seems to like him even though he burned off half his head, so maybe he's a sweetie.
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i had the displeasure of sitting next to neckface a few times at black. he's annoying as hell, and really, really can't read the vibe of a room.
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Neckface looks like a combo of Penny from Happy Endings (Casey Wilson) and Animal from the Muppets
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Neckface is actually a genuine dude who loves skating and art. It takes a certain type of person to just get caught and still commit art crimes. A certain romanticism I can really get behind. I’m riding his spanky spitfires rn...people really live on ig these days kinda sad seeing people just feeding into this nonsense.
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He kinda looks like the combination of a neck and a face
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Adults airing out beef through social media is still such a wild concept to me.
its honestly mind boggling
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Neckface looks like a combo of Penny from Happy Endings (Casey Wilson) and Animal from the Muppets
come on! Don’t disrespect casey Wilson like that
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i had the displeasure of sitting next to neckface a few times at black. he's annoying as hell, and really, really can't read the vibe of a room.
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Neckface looks like a combo of Penny from Happy Endings (Casey Wilson) and Animal from the Muppets
They have very similar twoheads
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Neckface looks like a combo of Penny from Happy Endings (Casey Wilson) and Animal from the Muppets
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Just here to say that neckface's "art" is absolute garbage. It's the same wack shit over and over again.
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Todd Bratrud, Mark Mckee (sorry spelling) and Sean Cliver = artists in my opinion
Neck face is just neck face maybe hype guy/drug buddy. Maybe with famous drug buddies?
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Team Neck. Although Trixie is probably the better skater of the two.
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i had the displeasure of sitting next to neckface a few times at black. he's annoying as hell, and really, really can't read the vibe of a room.
Please elaborate
i mean, if there are 4 people sitting quietly at a bar watching a baseball game on a thursday at 430pm, each a stool a part, maybe don't come in yelling and trying to get anyone to take a shot with you.
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“For those asking about this”
Yeah right as if anyone would ask about this even if they could see who’s blocking who. you morons are just starved for attention lol I’m team neck on this, fuck the trujillos
been out of the loop for a while. last time I saw the trujillos was on One In A Million I think? when they made a birthday cake or something. what did they do?
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- Liking Neckface
-Being 14
Pick one .
i'd love to be 14 again, i'd do somethings differently this time around.
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i know this is Slap, and there's room for everything, but especially since--a true pillar such as--Huf's passing is still so new and hard to accept and everyone's hurting from it, the fact that these threads focused on insignificant parasites like Trixie and Dirtbag belong in "Whatever," is especially glaring...one man's opinion...
Sometimes it's nice to have a distraction from life's heavier goings-on. Although I agree the guy who's drawn the same picture for 15 years blocking on Instagram the woman whose husband beat a teammate's girlfriend in his front yard is a very low quality distraction.
Agreed.
That said, I have no pigdog in this race. Even though I’m a Baker fanboy, under normal circumstances I refuse to buy anything with a Neckface graphic on it. It’s all just like blood, demons, buttholes, demons’ buttholes, etc. Not feeling it. And the Trujillos? Shit, you’ll end up with bedbugs just from visiting their insta. You’d think shitties would get along with other shitties, but here we are.
That reminded me of this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjzQqk6CZIY
My god i live for everything Berman did, an easy +1 anytime you post anything related to Berman, bloody good on ya mate
purple Mountains is hands down the album of my year.
Purple Mountains entire album, Random Rules, Strange Victory, Strange Defeat, Candy Jail, Open Field, San Fransisco BC, Suffering jukebox, Smith and Jones Forever are good places to start on Berman. Also his poetry book "Actual Air" One of the most brilliant poets and lyric men we've seen this century or last.
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My god i live for everything Berman did, an easy +1 anytime you post anything related to Berman, bloody good on ya mate.
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i know this is Slap, and there's room for everything, but especially since--a true pillar such as--Huf's passing is still so new and hard to accept and everyone's hurting from it, the fact that these threads focused on insignificant parasites like Trixie and Dirtbag belong in "Whatever," is especially glaring...one man's opinion...
Sometimes it's nice to have a distraction from life's heavier goings-on. Although I agree the guy who's drawn the same picture for 15 years blocking on Instagram the woman whose husband beat a teammate's girlfriend in his front yard is a very low quality distraction.
Agreed.
That said, I have no pigdog in this race. Even though I’m a Baker fanboy, under normal circumstances I refuse to buy anything with a Neckface graphic on it. It’s all just like blood, demons, buttholes, demons’ buttholes, etc. Not feeling it. And the Trujillos? Shit, you’ll end up with bedbugs just from visiting their insta. You’d think shitties would get along with other shitties, but here we are.
That reminded me of this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjzQqk6CZIY
I want to like that song but it just sounds like a bad American version of Wire.
Bad version of Wire? What a absurdly random and outrageous claim. Similar color schemes on the album art ill give you that
I was thinking the same thing about the colour scheme looking like Pink Flag. I never got heavily into the Silver Jews but that Purple Mountains album clicked with me. Would love to hear that scrapped album he recorded with Black Mountain.
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Recorded mostly with Dan Bejar of Destroyer. Dan Bejar another brilliant poet and song writer.
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husband beat a teammate's girlfriend in his front yard is a very low quality distraction.
wait what
Much to learn, young grasshopper:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=100739.0
I wish the problem is that I am young. I am glad though that being old means I am not going to comb through a drama-filled 16 page thread. Thank you though!
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i had the displeasure of sitting next to neckface a few times at black. he's annoying as hell, and really, really can't read the vibe of a room.
Please elaborate
i mean, if there are 4 people sitting quietly at a bar watching a baseball game on a thursday at 430pm, each a stool a part, maybe don't come in yelling and trying to get anyone to take a shot with you.
If he was buying, I'd take the shot. Mostly because I'm cheap.
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i had the displeasure of sitting next to neckface a few times at black. he's annoying as hell, and really, really can't read the vibe of a room.
Please elaborate
i mean, if there are 4 people sitting quietly at a bar watching a baseball game on a thursday at 430pm, each a stool a part, maybe don't come in yelling and trying to get anyone to take a shot with you.
Is that was I was doing wrong?
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i had the displeasure of sitting next to neckface a few times at black. he's annoying as hell, and really, really can't read the vibe of a room.
Please elaborate
i mean, if there are 4 people sitting quietly at a bar watching a baseball game on a thursday at 430pm, each a stool a part, maybe don't come in yelling and trying to get anyone to take a shot with you.
If he was buying, I'd take the shot. Mostly because I'm cheap.
yeah it’s not like he came in trying to fight someone
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real? nahh. Neck might be a graf hero but this is a skate forum and tnt has done more for skate than nasty no-neck.
Graf hero is a stretch also.
His stuff may not be the best but he does go out with a lot of very well known people in the graf world and that definitely counts for something
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Neckface is actually a genuine dude who loves skating and art. It takes a certain type of person to just get caught and still commit art crimes. A certain romanticism I can really get behind. I’m riding his spanky spitfires rn...people really live on ig these days kinda sad seeing people just feeding into this nonsense.
Just here to say that neckface's "art" is absolute garbage. It's the same wack shit over and over again.
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real? nahh. Neck might be a graf hero but this is a skate forum and tnt has done more for skate than nasty no-neck.
Graf hero is a stretch also.
His stuff may not be the best but he does go out with a lot of very well known people in the graf world and that definitely counts for something
I go out with skating with a lot of well respected pro skateboarders so that makes me a well respected skateboarder even though I clearly lack talent? If so I want a shoe deal
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i know this is Slap, and there's room for everything, but especially since--a true pillar such as--Huf's passing is still so new and hard to accept and everyone's hurting from it, the fact that these threads focused on insignificant parasites like Trixie and Dirtbag belong in "Whatever," is especially glaring...one man's opinion...
Sometimes it's nice to have a distraction from life's heavier goings-on. Although I agree the guy who's drawn the same picture for 15 years blocking on Instagram the woman whose husband beat a teammate's girlfriend in his front yard is a very low quality distraction.
Agreed.
That said, I have no pigdog in this race. Even though I’m a Baker fanboy, under normal circumstances I refuse to buy anything with a Neckface graphic on it. It’s all just like blood, demons, buttholes, demons’ buttholes, etc. Not feeling it. And the Trujillos? Shit, you’ll end up with bedbugs just from visiting their insta. You’d think shitties would get along with other shitties, but here we are.
That reminded me of this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjzQqk6CZIY
reminded me of pavement
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Necklaces' art is awful. It's like the stuff a regular toddler would draw.
I wish this would stick and people would call him Necklace on here. I remember a couple years ago someone had a post autocorrect "Fat Bill" to "Fat Bull" and I got so hyped thinking about how people might start calling him that.
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I wish I didn’t know about trixie or social media
well, wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first
Unless you're constipated. Then you might have a shot at a wish.
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real? nahh. Neck might be a graf hero but this is a skate forum and tnt has done more for skate than nasty no-neck.
Graf hero is a stretch also.
His stuff may not be the best but he does go out with a lot of very well known people in the graf world and that definitely counts for something
Dude's got his signature. When you see it you know it's Neck's work.
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Neckface looks like a combo of Penny from Happy Endings (Casey Wilson) and Animal from the Muppets
I can see it.
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real? nahh. Neck might be a graf hero but this is a skate forum and tnt has done more for skate than nasty no-neck.
Graf hero is a stretch also.
His stuff may not be the best but he does go out with a lot of very well known people in the graf world and that definitely counts for something
It really doesn't. It makes him a groupie... Seems to be his thing now that I think about it.
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Necklaces' art is awful. It's like the stuff a regular toddler would draw.
I wish this would stick and people would call him Necklace on here. I remember a couple years ago someone had a post autocorrect "Fat Bill" to "Fat Bull" and I got so hyped thinking about how people might start calling him that.
So the nickname of Neckface would be Necklace? I can see it.
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i know this is Slap, and there's room for everything, but especially since--a true pillar such as--Huf's passing is still so new and hard to accept and everyone's hurting from it, the fact that these threads focused on insignificant parasites like Trixie and Dirtbag belong in "Whatever," is especially glaring...one man's opinion...
Sometimes it's nice to have a distraction from life's heavier goings-on. Although I agree the guy who's drawn the same picture for 15 years blocking on Instagram the woman whose husband beat a teammate's girlfriend in his front yard is a very low quality distraction.
Agreed.
That said, I have no pigdog in this race. Even though I’m a Baker fanboy, under normal circumstances I refuse to buy anything with a Neckface graphic on it. It’s all just like blood, demons, buttholes, demons’ buttholes, etc. Not feeling it. And the Trujillos? Shit, you’ll end up with bedbugs just from visiting their insta. You’d think shitties would get along with other shitties, but here we are.
That reminded me of this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjzQqk6CZIY
reminded me of pavement
so fuckin lazy. berman’s songs sound nothing like pavement, he wrote circles around them. it’s just guitar flourishes and vocals, and to call the joos a pavement side project or anything like that is so unbelievably disrespectful
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Neck's art or more accurately illustrations have a mass appeal Target/Walmart type halloween shit going on no matter how many scary babies he puts in his work. Shit's embarrassing. I wouldn't consider the dude an artists he is more of a scary Walmart illustrator who appeals to people that aren't actually into art.
and no one gives a fuck about tnt or is sister/wife
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I have an artist friend who taught at SVA when Neck Face was there (though did not teach him), and ran in the same circles as him, and all I know is that he absolutely hates his guts and has never had a remotely kind thing to say about him. I never really bothered to find out why, and I am not going to ask at this point, but I just remember him complaining about it in like 2003, when I took a photo of some Neck Face graffiti and got yelled at
Also lol @ the guy who said that the Silver Jews were a bad American version of Wire. Galaxy brain take right there
Are we sure neck didn’t get his art education from a crumpled chipotle bag?
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So is TNT going to punch Neckface in his front yard now. I’m confused?
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Whats the story what dead legend did he go over in NY then had to dip?
He went hard in the LES, Williamsburg, bushwick and Pratt/ DUMBO around 2005. back when he painted smiling alligators and shit still. Couple years before the bats and the whole anti-homework and parents shtick. Couple cuttyboys still running by Pratt
Free max b
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So is TNT going to punch Neckface in his front yard now. I’m confused?
Smashcut to TNT pummeling a pooka shell necklace in his front yard.
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So is TNT going to punch Neckface in his front yard now. I’m confused?
Don't wanna spam the Things That Made Me Laugh Today thread, but this also made me chortle ;D Thank you, hahahaha
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Neckface=fetal alcohol syndrome
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Neckface=fetal alcohol syndrome
Well... He’s not what you’d call a “traditionally handsome” sort of fellow, I suppose, or even handsome at all, for that matter, (to my eye.)
Kind of reminds me of Aughra from the Dark Crystal.
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/darkcrystal/images/7/70/Aughra_AOR.jpeg/revision/latest?cb=20190718173819)
Not that I’m in a position to criticize, being a goofy looking gent, myself, but let’s just say it’s a fine thing for him that he has his career to parade about when it comes to meeting potential romantic interests.
I sound terribly shallow right now, I know.
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Adults airing out beef through social media is still such a wild concept to me.
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A wicked genie grants your wish to have long beautiful hair for the rest of your life but the catch is they also give you a neckface
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TNT & Trixie are two of the last people on earth I would ever want to hang out with...
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Only responding because of the Wire and Silver Jews part of the thread, great bands. Saw Wire do all of Pink Flag live about 7 years ago and it was sick.
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real? nahh. Neck might be a graf hero but this is a skate forum and tnt has done more for skate than nasty no-neck.
Graf hero is a stretch also.
His stuff may not be the best but he does go out with a lot of very well known people in the graf world and that definitely counts for something
Dude's got his signature. When you see it you know it's Neck's work.
Not really only buddy fuckin wit him is Katsu and his shit toy too.
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Wanto did some shit with him too but honestly, Wanto is more of a legal writer who does fills now. Still illegally here and there, but not like before. I mean, dude owns a burger shop with his name as the storefront.
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Not a "fan" of either but I will side with the guy that can actually skate
TNT has really Kostoned himself, huh?
He certainly gets a lot of hate here (a lot of it deserved) but you'd get the impression from Slap he was some complete joker.
I guess history has been unkind but I'll say for the record that he was the best transition skater on the planet for a short while. Really one of the best I've ever seen. It's a shame he did himself few favors.
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TNT has really Kostoned himself, huh?
He certainly gets a lot of hate here (a lot of it deserved) but you'd get the impression from Slap he was some complete joker.
I guess history has been unkind but I'll say for the record that he was the best transition skater on the planet for a short while. Really one of the best I've ever seen. It's a shame he did himself few favors.
the thing is i thought pretty much everyone always knew or at least got the idea that he was a cocky lil asshole. That was kinda his deal from the beginning. He still rips too
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Wanto did some shit with him too but honestly, Wanto is more of a legal writer who does fills now. Still illegally here and there, but not like before. I mean, dude owns a burger shop with his name as the storefront.
WANTOBURGER admittedly looks kinda tasty. 100% Kobe beef.
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Not a "fan" of either but I will side with the guy that can actually skate
Is this true? I've never followed transition skating but was he ever better than someone like Bob B?
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Not a "fan" of either but I will side with the guy that can actually skate
TNT has really Kostoned himself, huh?
He certainly gets a lot of hate here (a lot of it deserved) but you'd get the impression from Slap he was some complete joker.
I guess history has been unkind but I'll say for the record that he was the best transition skater on the planet for a short while. Really one of the best I've ever seen. It's a shame he did himself few favors.
Yeah, I wouldn't necessarily say TNT "Kostoned" himself, since Koston revealed himself to be a massive knob around the same time his skills drastically declined and started dressing like a nine year old decked out in Supreme garb. TNT was exposed as an asshole (and it's likely he's always been an asshole), but his skills were never questioned, and he really is a one-of-a-kind talent when it comes to his style and approach to both street and transition skating. I hate that I'm defending TNT, but I also hate that I can't just watch one of his video parts without thinking about what a shitheel he is.
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Is this true? I've never followed transition skating but was he ever better than someone like Bob B?
not even close lol he did some tweaked out airs and was down with the right people
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I keep reading this as:
Tony Trujillo cucked by Neckface
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Not a "fan" of either but I will side with the guy that can actually skate
Is this true? I've never followed transition skating but was he ever better than someone like Bob B?
not even close lol he did some tweaked out airs and was down with the right people
to follow on this conversation, comparing Trujillo to Bob B seems like a apple and oranges deal--Trujillo was sick as far as the whole "all terrain" approach goes, at least for a while...i still think that this is one of the loveliest frontboard photos
(https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Features/2013/SOTY_Animals_Web/1000px-2002.jpg)
dude killed/kills tranny, like this frontside invert over the channel that i've always remembered
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/03/29/ba/0329ba32d4c085bceab3a3cf88263394.jpg)
fuck man, stardom--even in the rather pitiful skateboarding sense--does seem to do awful things to people. i hate that i know all of the personal/domestic drama shit in dude's life. i've never had a social media account, but lurking in Slap nevertheless subjects one to these shitshows...
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Not a "fan" of either but I will side with the guy that can actually skate
Is this true? I've never followed transition skating but was he ever better than someone like Bob B?
not even close lol he did some tweaked out airs and was down with the right people
Fs grind fs air repeat
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Not a "fan" of either but I will side with the guy that can actually skate
Is this true? I've never followed transition skating but was he ever better than someone like Bob B?
not even close lol he did some tweaked out airs and was down with the right people
to follow on this conversation, comparing Trujillo to Bob B seems like a apple and oranges deal--Trujillo was sick as far as the whole "all terrain" approach goes, at least for a while...i still think that this is one of the loveliest frontboard photos
(https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Features/2013/SOTY_Animals_Web/1000px-2002.jpg)
dude killed/kills tranny, like this frontside invert over the channel that i've always remembered
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/03/29/ba/0329ba32d4c085bceab3a3cf88263394.jpg)
fuck man, stardom--even in the rather pitiful skateboarding sense--does seem to do awful things to people. i hate that i know all of the personal/domestic drama shit in dude's life. i've never had a social media account, but lurking in Slap nevertheless subjects one to these shitshows...
Yea but bob wasn’t really skating hesh style DIYs and pools in the early 00s . From what I can remember I always saw bob on a vert or mini in ads ....I always though Dan Drebhol was better and they skated together a lot
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I used to skip his part in In Bloom. Not because of the skating so much as the Motley Crue and accompanying shtick.
He was definitely a top pro back then, kook as he is. It's revisionist history to say otherwise.
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Not a "fan" of either but I will side with the guy that can actually skate
Is this true? I've never followed transition skating but was he ever better than someone like Bob B?
not even close lol he did some tweaked out airs and was down with the right people
to follow on this conversation, comparing Trujillo to Bob B seems like a apple and oranges deal--Trujillo was sick as far as the whole "all terrain" approach goes, at least for a while...i still think that this is one of the loveliest frontboard photos
(https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Features/2013/SOTY_Animals_Web/1000px-2002.jpg)
dude killed/kills tranny, like this frontside invert over the channel that i've always remembered
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/03/29/ba/0329ba32d4c085bceab3a3cf88263394.jpg)
fuck man, stardom--even in the rather pitiful skateboarding sense--does seem to do awful things to people. i hate that i know all of the personal/domestic drama shit in dude's life. i've never had a social media account, but lurking in Slap nevertheless subjects one to these shitshows...
Yea but bob wasn’t really skating hesh style DIYs and pools in the early 00s . From what I can remember I always saw bob on a vert or mini in ads ....I always though Dan Drebhol was better and they skated together a lot
oh man, Drehobl is a whole other conversation...skateboarding-wise, life-wise, Drehobl all day, over everyone mentioned thus far in this thread...not even a question
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdwePVTF_Oo
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Not a "fan" of either but I will side with the guy that can actually skate
Is this true? I've never followed transition skating but was he ever better than someone like Bob B?
not even close lol he did some tweaked out airs and was down with the right people
to follow on this conversation, comparing Trujillo to Bob B seems like a apple and oranges deal--Trujillo was sick as far as the whole "all terrain" approach goes, at least for a while...i still think that this is one of the loveliest frontboard photos
(https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Features/2013/SOTY_Animals_Web/1000px-2002.jpg)
dude killed/kills tranny, like this frontside invert over the channel that i've always remembered
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/03/29/ba/0329ba32d4c085bceab3a3cf88263394.jpg)
fuck man, stardom--even in the rather pitiful skateboarding sense--does seem to do awful things to people. i hate that i know all of the personal/domestic drama shit in dude's life. i've never had a social media account, but lurking in Slap nevertheless subjects one to these shitshows...
Yea but bob wasn’t really skating hesh style DIYs and pools in the early 00s . From what I can remember I always saw bob on a vert or mini in ads ....I always though Dan Drebhol was better and they skated together a lot
oh man, Drehobl is a whole other conversation...skateboarding-wise, life-wise, Drehobl all day, over everyone mentioned thus far in this thread...not even a question
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdwePVTF_Oo
THIS^^^ is the correct answer.
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I love drehobl but i’m willing to bet if u were to ask him about trujillo’s skating he wouldn’t just say he did a couple tweaked out airs and knew the right ppl
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He was definitely a top pro back then, kook as he is. It's revisionist history to say otherwise.
This. There is a lot of either willful or youthful ignorance in this thread. TNT was a guy everyone universally recognized as one of, if not the, best ATV skater at a time where everything was so incredibly segmented.
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I love drehobl but i’m willing to bet if u were to ask him about trujillo’s skating he wouldn’t just say he did a couple tweaked out airs and knew the right ppl
i agree--total respect, and rightfully so
i don't know what to say to people prattling on about frontside airs and grinds and knowing the right people--we must have been seeing different footage throughout the last 20 years or so...you can just ignore the clip below--i always loved the/his skating in the first part of Bonus Footage--to the Flipper song...dude skates that monstrous park (Orcas Island?) like it's small...especially that ollie into the big bank to grasser over the pipe around 2:17
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL44lKbMbts
again, i'm talking about dude's skateboarding...i know from firsthand experience while working at High Speed and having Antihero come through cities i've been living in, that Trujillo is no fun--are there a lot of adult skaters who had attention poured on them as kids, who turned out to be stellar adults?
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TNT really was a breath of fresh ATV air in the late 90s & early 00s.
Can't think of anything inspirational from him of late, but when he first hit, that shit was solid gold.
Still... Dan Drehobl.
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he may have turned out to be a kook, but his talent on a skateboard is undeniable.
can't believe I even had to type this
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I used to skip his part in In Bloom. Not because of the skating so much as the Motley Crue and accompanying shtick.
He was definitely a top pro back then, kook as he is. It's revisionist history to say otherwise.
I agree, I never got the whole I'm a cool rock and roller punk type guy. By the mid 2000's I was pretty sure hair metal and the Motely Crue aesthetic was gimmicky and dead.
But than again look at Hellrose and see how successful that venture was
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I used to skip his part in In Bloom. Not because of the skating so much as the Motley Crue and accompanying shtick.
He was definitely a top pro back then, kook as he is. It's revisionist history to say otherwise.
I agree, I never got the whole I'm a cool rock and roller punk type guy. By the mid 2000's I was pretty sure hair metal and the Motely Crue aesthetic was gimmicky and dead.
But than again look at Hellrose and see how successful that venture was
It was always corny but it was especially corny by, say, 2005.
Hollywood Skateboards, anyone? (i kind of liked the team and the edits they put out, in 411 or otherwise)
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I used to skip his part in In Bloom. Not because of the skating so much as the Motley Crue and accompanying shtick.
He was definitely a top pro back then, kook as he is. It's revisionist history to say otherwise.
I agree, I never got the whole I'm a cool rock and roller punk type guy. By the mid 2000's I was pretty sure hair metal and the Motely Crue aesthetic was gimmicky and dead.
But than again look at Hellrose and see how successful that venture was
It was always corny but it was especially corny by, say, 2005.
Hollywood Skateboards, anyone? (i kind of liked the team and the edits they put out, in 411 or otherwise)
Was not Kris Mask-ovich involved in Hollywood for 45 seconds or so?
My brain lumps Hellrose & Hollywood into the same dustbin.
As an aside: who's been involved with, or rode more board brands... Markovich or Vallely?
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I was a kid who loooved the tnt shtick.... but I'm really here to say it's drehobl. He the best. Does he have an appreciation thread?
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I used to skip his part in In Bloom. Not because of the skating so much as the Motley Crue and accompanying shtick.
He was definitely a top pro back then, kook as he is. It's revisionist history to say otherwise.
I agree, I never got the whole I'm a cool rock and roller punk type guy. By the mid 2000's I was pretty sure hair metal and the Motely Crue aesthetic was gimmicky and dead.
But than again look at Hellrose and see how successful that venture was
It was always corny but it was especially corny by, say, 2005.
Hollywood Skateboards, anyone? (i kind of liked the team and the edits they put out, in 411 or otherwise)
My brain lumps Hellrose & Hollywood into the same dustbin.
As an aside: who's been involved with, or rode more board brands... Markovich or Vallely?
He "owned" it out of TumYeto and the answer is Markovich by a magnitude of infinity.
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I love drehobl but i’m willing to bet if u were to ask him about trujillo’s skating he wouldn’t just say he did a couple tweaked out airs and knew the right ppl
People who think that probably don't get why Grant Taylor's skating is so well loved
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he may have turned out to be a kook, but his talent on a skateboard is undeniable.
can't believe I even had to type this
This a thousand times yes no doubt he had talent and blast the fuck outta fs airs and rip tranny he was a top 10 for a while but his drama sours ever wanting to speak with him again.
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I used to skip his part in In Bloom. Not because of the skating so much as the Motley Crue and accompanying shtick.
He was definitely a top pro back then, kook as he is. It's revisionist history to say otherwise.
I agree, I never got the whole I'm a cool rock and roller punk type guy. By the mid 2000's I was pretty sure hair metal and the Motely Crue aesthetic was gimmicky and dead.
But than again look at Hellrose and see how successful that venture was
It was always corny but it was especially corny by, say, 2005.
Hollywood Skateboards, anyone? (i kind of liked the team and the edits they put out, in 411 or otherwise)
My brain lumps Hellrose & Hollywood into the same dustbin.
As an aside: who's been involved with, or rode more board brands... Markovich or Vallely?
Dude I do the same exact thing. Was there a difference between Hollywood & Hellrose at all?
Or was Hollywood just the brand and Hellrose was the deck company....I have no memory. But I did find some Hellrose Decks to look at:
http://www.artofskateboarding.com/pg/aos_pg_results.asp?comp_search=488
edit: found Hollywood decks too, so I guess its a separate company...or Hollywood and Hellrose were under the same roof?
http://www.artofskateboarding.com/Pg/aos_pg_results.asp
Another aside: I knew the Nuge and Markovitch both rode for Hollywood...but than I saw two names I haven't seen in a long time: Dorian Tucker and Justin Roy
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I used to skip his part in In Bloom. Not because of the skating so much as the Motley Crue and accompanying shtick.
He was definitely a top pro back then, kook as he is. It's revisionist history to say otherwise.
I agree, I never got the whole I'm a cool rock and roller punk type guy. By the mid 2000's I was pretty sure hair metal and the Motely Crue aesthetic was gimmicky and dead.
But than again look at Hellrose and see how successful that venture was
It was always corny but it was especially corny by, say, 2005.
Hollywood Skateboards, anyone? (i kind of liked the team and the edits they put out, in 411 or otherwise)
My brain lumps Hellrose & Hollywood into the same dustbin.
As an aside: who's been involved with, or rode more board brands... Markovich or Vallely?
Dude I do the same exact thing. Was there a difference between Hollywood & Hellrose at all?
Or was Hollywood just the brand and Hellrose was the deck company....I have no memory. But I did find some Hellrose Decks to look at:
http://www.artofskateboarding.com/pg/aos_pg_results.asp?comp_search=488
edit: found Hollywood decks too, so I guess its a separate company...or Hollywood and Hellrose were under the same roof?
http://www.artofskateboarding.com/Pg/aos_pg_results.asp
It was Hollywood and then Hellrose. They were two separate things.
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I always lumped Hellrose, Hollywood, Pig Wood, Crimson, and Given as one brand that kind of just passed around riders. I'll throw early Dekline in the mix too.
Anyways team Drehobl
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I always lumped Hellrose, Hollywood, Pig Wood, Crimson, and Given as one brand that kind of just passed around riders. I'll throw early Dekline in the mix too.
Anyways team Drehobl
Was Green Room the crew? Ones that I can remember were
Richie Belton
Justin Roy
don Nguyen
Lizard King?? Slash??
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You get on Anti -Hero when youre 16 and never had a job ever you are bound to be an asshole. you cant deny tonys skating he is a tranny legend for sure. Neckface is a groupie
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I always lumped Hellrose, Hollywood, Pig Wood, Crimson, *Prime, Foundation, Blind, Element*, and Given as one brand that kind of just passed around riders. I'll throw early Dekline in the mix too.
Anyways team Drehobl
I never felt Marky Markovich fit 101....
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You get on Anti -Hero when youre 16 and never had a job ever you are bound to be an asshole. you cant deny tonys skating he is a tranny legend for sure. Neckface is a groupie
I remember when he was the doofus with a mohawk
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You get on Anti -Hero when youre 16 and never had a job ever you are bound to be an asshole. you cant deny tonys skating he is a tranny legend for sure. Neckface is a groupie
I remember when he was the doofus with a mohawk
mohawk, spiked bracelet and wearing a tie over a t-shirt. Avril punk
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You get on Anti -Hero when youre 16 and never had a job ever you are bound to be an asshole. you cant deny tonys skating he is a tranny legend for sure. Neckface is a groupie
I remember when he was the doofus with a mohawk
mohawk, spiked bracelet and wearing a tie over a t-shirt. Avril punk
Was it? I thought Avril was into him around in bloom time. I most remember him doing an acid drop or drop in at some 90s x game thing and having the worst saggy pants push
The Trujillos def could have been a mid 00s mtv family reality show a la Osborne’s or Bam. He skates, she’s in a band. Gerwer shows up as wacky neighbor
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You get on Anti -Hero when youre 16 and never had a job ever you are bound to be an asshole. you cant deny tonys skating he is a tranny legend for sure. Neckface is a groupie
I remember when he was the doofus with a mohawk
mohawk, spiked bracelet and wearing a tie over a t-shirt. Avril punk
This is such a dumb conversation at this point. Old DLX videos have Tony with mohawk or hesh shit in dickies and vans or whatever at the time. Look up all that shit. He was way more punk than Avril mall kids before anyone knew who Avril was. Come on man. He'd show up at Burnside as a 17 year old in like 2000 and destroy the place. Keep in mind this is 20 fucking years ago. Skateboarding was different and people didnt ride all terrains or skate with ruthless abandon like he did.
I dont know anything about hiim 2020, but it seems like he ended up being a real asshole? But lets not fucking distort/rewrite history. Julien put him on 18 for a reason. He was a punk kid from Santa Rosa that absolutely fucking ripped all terrain on a skateboard, didnt give a fuck, and was fine in the van.
Supreme cock now as an adult, airing out ridiculous drama as an "adult" on instagram, great, not exactly surprised/shocked and dont at all care but dont make history fit your priors. This is why people hate SLAP. Shit gets invented on here that isnt tethered to reality at all.
Also I am confused what Drehobl has to do with any of this? Or why anyone is comparing Burnquist to TNT? I dont think anyone sits around comparing Mike Frazier to Ron Whaley.
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You get on Anti -Hero when youre 16 and never had a job ever you are bound to be an asshole. you cant deny tonys skating he is a tranny legend for sure. Neckface is a groupie
I remember when he was the doofus with a mohawk
mohawk, spiked bracelet and wearing a tie over a t-shirt. Avril punk
This is such a dumb conversation at this point. Old DLX videos have Tony with mohawk or hesh shit in dickies and vans or whatever at the time. Look up all that shit. He was way more punk than Avril mall kids before anyone knew who Avril was. Come on man. He'd show up at Burnside as a 17 year old in like 2000 and destroy the place. Keep in mind this is 20 fucking years ago. Skateboarding was different and people didnt ride all terrains or skate with ruthless abandon like he did.
I dont know anything about hiim 2020, but it seems like he ended up being a real asshole? But lets not fucking distort/rewrite history. Julien put him on 18 for a reason. He was a punk kid from Santa Rosa that absolutely fucking ripped all terrain on a skateboard, didnt give a fuck, and was fine in the van.
Supreme cock now as an adult, airing out ridiculous drama as an "adult" on instagram, great, not exactly surprised/shocked and dont at all care but dont make history fit your priors. This is why people hate SLAP. Shit gets invented on here that isnt tethered to reality at all.
Also I am confused what Drehobl has to do with any of this? Or why anyone is comparing Burnquist to TNT? I dont think anyone sits around comparing Mike Frazier to Ron Whaley.
No one is comparing we are just expressing a preference to Dans skating ...I get TNT, I have TNTs SOTY Thrasher issue with the 1st KOTR article...he was dope for sure and Vov is dope for his reasons
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No one is comparing we are just expressing a preference to Dans skating ..
Well, I get it. I prefer Dan too. I just have no idea why he was suddenly invoked into the conversation.
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He used to wear a Charles Bronson shirt So that’s pretty punk, he was huge when his first shoe came out, didn’t Motley Crue sue him? I think that was the start of his downfall ...
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Not a "fan" of either but I will side with the guy that can actually skate
Is this true? I've never followed transition skating but was he ever better than someone like Bob B?
not even close lol he did some tweaked out airs and was down with the right people
to follow on this conversation, comparing Trujillo to Bob B seems like a apple and oranges deal--Trujillo was sick as far as the whole "all terrain" approach goes, at least for a while...i still think that this is one of the loveliest frontboard photos
(https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Features/2013/SOTY_Animals_Web/1000px-2002.jpg)
dude killed/kills tranny, like this frontside invert over the channel that i've always remembered
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/03/29/ba/0329ba32d4c085bceab3a3cf88263394.jpg)
fuck man, stardom--even in the rather pitiful skateboarding sense--does seem to do awful things to people. i hate that i know all of the personal/domestic drama shit in dude's life. i've never had a social media account, but lurking in Slap nevertheless subjects one to these shitshows...
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He used to wear a Charles Bronson shirt So that’s pretty punk, he was huge when his first shoe came out, didn’t Motley Crue sue him? I think that was the start of his downfall ...
Nikki Sixx was invited to SOTY party and then sued Vans and Tony because photos of him were used in their ads for his new shoe
Drehobl mentioned, I believe, bc Cardiel, Dan, TNT were the trilogy of tWS parts that made transition cool/mainstream again
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No one is comparing we are just expressing a preference to Dans skating ..
Well, I get it. I prefer Dan too. I just have no idea why he was suddenly invoked into the conversation.
I just know they used to skate together and is why i brought him up
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He used to wear a Charles Bronson shirt So that’s pretty punk, he was huge when his first shoe came out, didn’t Motley Crue sue him? I think that was the start of his downfall ...
Nikki Sixx was invited to SOTY party and then sued Vans and Tony because photos of him were used in their ads for his new shoe
Drehobl mentioned, I believe, bc Cardiel, Dan, TNT were the trilogy of tWS parts that made transition cool/mainstream again
I mean all three parts were amazing, but the mainstreaming of skateboarding and sticking a park with curved stuff on every corner in America was something else entirely.
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He used to wear a Charles Bronson shirt So that’s pretty punk, he was huge when his first shoe came out, didn’t Motley Crue sue him? I think that was the start of his downfall ...
Nikki Sixx was invited to SOTY party and then sued Vans and Tony because photos of him were used in their ads for his new shoe
Drehobl mentioned, I believe, bc Cardiel, Dan, TNT were the trilogy of tWS parts that made transition cool/mainstream again
I mean all three parts were amazing, but the mainstreaming of skateboarding and sticking a park with curved stuff on every corner in America was something else entirely.
yea Dyrdek and MTV got parks going in cities IMO...a lot of growth in the bay area I know was due to the amount of cities tired of kicking kids out of schools and business.
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"Tony T is the perfect example of what a skateboarder should be.... On his skateboard" Grosso you deft bastard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2ex47omgK0
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Tony T was the GT of his time.
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HOW DO WE GET BADSHIT TO FUCK BRIAN PATCH?
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You get on Anti -Hero when youre 16 and never had a job ever you are bound to be an asshole. you cant deny tonys skating he is a tranny legend for sure. Neckface is a groupie
I remember when he was the doofus with a mohawk
mohawk, spiked bracelet and wearing a tie over a t-shirt. Avril punk
This is such a dumb conversation at this point. Old DLX videos have Tony with mohawk or hesh shit in dickies and vans or whatever at the time. Look up all that shit. He was way more punk than Avril mall kids before anyone knew who Avril was. Come on man. He'd show up at Burnside as a 17 year old in like 2000 and destroy the place. Keep in mind this is 20 fucking years ago. Skateboarding was different and people didnt ride all terrains or skate with ruthless abandon like he did.
I dont know anything about hiim 2020, but it seems like he ended up being a real asshole? But lets not fucking distort/rewrite history. Julien put him on 18 for a reason. He was a punk kid from Santa Rosa that absolutely fucking ripped all terrain on a skateboard, didnt give a fuck, and was fine in the van.
Supreme cock now as an adult, airing out ridiculous drama as an "adult" on instagram, great, not exactly surprised/shocked and dont at all care but dont make history fit your priors. This is why people hate SLAP. Shit gets invented on here that isnt tethered to reality at all.
Also I am confused what Drehobl has to do with any of this? Or why anyone is comparing Burnquist to TNT? I dont think anyone sits around comparing Mike Frazier to Ron Whaley.
Avril part was a joke, referring to her wearing a tie with a wifebeater on, because TNT did the tie with a t-shirt also. TNT can skate but I always assumed he was a bit more fashion than function outside of his skating.
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Tony T was the GT of his time.
Nah David Gonzales for the sheer amount of photos they much each have of shredding a skateboarding like a guitar with THAT face
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He used to wear a Charles Bronson shirt So that’s pretty punk, he was huge when his first shoe came out, didn’t Motley Crue sue him? I think that was the start of his downfall ...
Nikki Sixx was invited to SOTY party and then sued Vans and Tony because photos of him were used in their ads for his new shoe
Drehobl mentioned, I believe, bc Cardiel, Dan, TNT were the trilogy of tWS parts that made transition cool/mainstream again
I mean all three parts were amazing, but the mainstreaming of skateboarding and sticking a park with curved stuff on every corner in America was something else entirely.
yea Dyrdek and MTV got parks going in cities IMO...a lot of growth in the bay area I know was due to the amount of cities tired of kicking kids out of schools and business.
Frank Hirata being the face of that shitty park builder company got a lot of parks built in the early 00s. Along with THPS, the Dogtown and Z Boys doc, and Bam making a skate boom. Dyrdek did sorta get the ball rolling on skate plazas though. Cardiel,Drehobl and TNT parts killed it. Heavy in the rotation.
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Tony T was the GT of his time.
Nah David Gonzales for the sheer amount of photos they much each have of shredding a skateboarding like a guitar with THAT face
Well ya, I agree with that too. But really, no one was skating all-terrain at the level Tony T was during his window. Whether or not he's a dick or a kook, his talent in his prime was undeniable.
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neck had better clips in baker 4 than trujillo had in quantinium tho
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"Tony T is the perfect example of what a skateboarder should be.... On his skateboard" Grosso you deft bastard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2ex47omgK0
And that's why GROSSO is the GOAT. Shoots from the hip.
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Anybody old enough to remeber when Tony T went to the games one year. Blue liberty spikes and a tshirt with “fuck xgames” spray painted on it. Always seemed like he was the king of the foodcourt to me. The best thing Tony T ever did was put out a shoe that only Terry Kennedy could make look good.
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^He was like 15 at that point. I’m inclined to forgive the sartorial choices of kids.
From maybe 2000-2004 he was a beast. Phelps says something in his SOTY video about how he would roll up and destroy any park sight unseen and that’s pretty much what I saw.
He didn’t warm up, didn’t feel out lines, he just pointed his board and did a bunch of stuff that you and your friends had previously said “wouldn’t it be awesome if?” and then did a bunch of stuff that hadn’t crossed anyone’s mind. It was amazing - and he was with Cardiel, Hewitt, Stranger, and Frank.
A friend was at Tampa Pro one year and was skating the mini and said Trujillo showed up looking like he had just rolled out of bed, destroyed the mini as a warm up and went and won Tampa Pro.
Now there are a lot of ATV rippers but for a brief while he was something else - on a board at least.
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Not a "fan" of either but I will side with the guy that can actually skate
Is this true? I've never followed transition skating but was he ever better than someone like Bob B?
not even close lol he did some tweaked out airs and was down with the right people
to follow on this conversation, comparing Trujillo to Bob B seems like a apple and oranges deal--Trujillo was sick as far as the whole "all terrain" approach goes, at least for a while...i still think that this is one of the loveliest frontboard photos
(https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Features/2013/SOTY_Animals_Web/1000px-2002.jpg)
dude killed/kills tranny, like this frontside invert over the channel that i've always remembered
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/03/29/ba/0329ba32d4c085bceab3a3cf88263394.jpg)
fuck man, stardom--even in the rather pitiful skateboarding sense--does seem to do awful things to people. i hate that i know all of the personal/domestic drama shit in dude's life. i've never had a social media account, but lurking in Slap nevertheless subjects one to these shitshows...
That FS board is in New Zealand. I stood at that spot at least 3 times, its steep. Or as they would say there "steep as". Also believe he blew out his knee in that same session (rolled off the rail) and needed surgery, was out for like 8 months.
Footage at 1:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEt0NCBE1XM
And no I did not skate that rail. My rail days were over by this time regardless.
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Anybody old enough to remeber when Tony T went to the games one year. Blue liberty spikes and a tshirt with “fuck xgames” spray painted on it. Always seemed like he was the king of the foodcourt to me. The best thing Tony T ever did was put out a shoe that only Terry Kennedy could make look good.
Free max b
Van Wastell made the Dr. T's look dope too.
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Van made everything look better than it was, especially basketball jerseys
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I have to chuckle about a dude with a 25 year career with a pass to film mostly in parks, who has so little footage.
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Trujillo's wife automatically loses for dry snitching neck's government name
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TNT’s part in Cow was so good. It was amazing some kid could hang with Stranger and Cardiel.
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Anybody old enough to remeber when Tony T went to the games one year. Blue liberty spikes and a tshirt with “fuck xgames” spray painted on it. Always seemed like he was the king of the foodcourt to me. The best thing Tony T ever did was put out a shoe that only Terry Kennedy could make look good.
Free max b
I DMed him once to rerelease the Dr T's because I had the yellow and white ones senior year. He said he's asked Vans multiple time and they won't do it.
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I have to chuckle about a dude with a 25 year career with a pass to film mostly in parks, who has so little footage.
Strange question:
Since most of transition skating is done in skateparks in general, because giant vert walls aren't natural in most urban and rural architectural designs....does that make the skating less cool?
Also huge difference between a Burnside and FDR.....and let's say the Vans combi bowl
I'm sure this topic has been raised in multiple threads...but since you broached the question I'd thought I'd ask...
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I have to chuckle about a dude with a 25 year career with a pass to film mostly in parks, who has so little footage.
Strange question:
Since most of transition skating is done in skateparks in general, because giant vert walls aren't natural in most urban and rural architectural designs....does that make the skating less cool?
Also huge difference between a Burnside and FDR.....and let's say the Vans combi bowl
I'm sure this topic has been raised in multiple threads...but since you broached the question I'd thought I'd ask...
It’s fine, but first you just gotta pay the bowl troll, you gotta pay the bowl troll to get in
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i know this is Slap, and there's room for everything, but especially since--a true pillar such as--Huf's passing is still so new and hard to accept and everyone's hurting from it, the fact that these threads focused on insignificant parasites like Trixie and Dirtbag belong in "Whatever," is especially glaring...one man's opinion...
maybe you could ask the mods to start a "super serious respectful threads only" board so you don't need to embarrass yourself with dumbass takes on what is or isn't too useless for the board titled "useless wooden toy banter"
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I have to chuckle about a dude with a 25 year career with a pass to film mostly in parks, who has so little footage.
Strange question:
Since most of transition skating is done in skateparks in general, because giant vert walls aren't natural in most urban and rural architectural designs....does that make the skating less cool?
Also huge difference between a Burnside and FDR.....and let's say the Vans combi bowl
I'm sure this topic has been raised in multiple threads...but since you broached the question I'd thought I'd ask...
Unless you’re talking about some YouTube pro that only skates a skatepark ledge, no one ever brings up the “park rule” unless they more or less don’t give a shit about transition skating.
I have to chuckle about a dude with a 25 year career with a pass to film mostly in parks, who has so little footage.
That’s fair to some extent: that team could have managed to put out way more footage because they were skating nonstop. However, TNT easily has 25 minutes of footage out there which is well in line with his contemporaries.
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Anybody old enough to remeber when Tony T went to the games one year. Blue liberty spikes and a tshirt with “fuck xgames” spray painted on it. Always seemed like he was the king of the foodcourt to me. The best thing Tony T ever did was put out a shoe that only Terry Kennedy could make look good.
Free max b
I DMed him once to rerelease the Dr T's because I had the yellow and white ones senior year. He said he's asked Vans multiple time and they won't do it.
Like a man..
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Anybody old enough to remeber when Tony T went to the games one year. Blue liberty spikes and a tshirt with “fuck xgames” spray painted on it. Always seemed like he was the king of the foodcourt to me. The best thing Tony T ever did was put out a shoe that only Terry Kennedy could make look good.
Free max b
I DMed him once to rerelease the Dr T's because I had the yellow and white ones senior year. He said he's asked Vans multiple time and they won't do it.
I grew a beard right after, shit was tight.
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Remember when this was about neckface? Did anyone ever solve the puzzle?
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I have to chuckle about a dude with a 25 year career with a pass to film mostly in parks, who has so little footage.
For what it’s worth, I think what made Anti-hero really fucking cool is that they actually skated and filmed skateparks. I think people don’t realize that 15 or 20 years ago no one did that. They truly were doing stuff no other companies were doing and they ripped and it was relatable, but yeah tnt’s skating is amazing, it’s a bummer that he seems like a turd.
Also, I remember when he won the marseille contest, he was on some hosoi type shit, or at least that’s how the skate media painted it.
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I have to chuckle about a dude with a 25 year career with a pass to film mostly in parks, who has so little footage.
For what it’s worth, I think what made Anti-hero really fucking cool is that they actually skated and filmed skateparks. I think people don’t realize that 15 or 20 years ago no one did that. They truly were doing stuff no other companies were doing and they ripped and it was relatable, but yeah tnt’s skating is amazing, it’s a bummer that he seems like a turd.
Also, I remember when he won the marseille contest, he was on some hosoi type shit, or at least that’s how the skate media painted it.
16 years old, 20 years ago. Doesnt miss a beat this whole fucking run.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKo1q1l98ns
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I have to chuckle about a dude with a 25 year career with a pass to film mostly in parks, who has so little footage.
For what it’s worth, I think what made Anti-hero really fucking cool is that they actually skated and filmed skateparks. I think people don’t realize that 15 or 20 years ago no one did that. They truly were doing stuff no other companies were doing and they ripped and it was relatable, but yeah tnt’s skating is amazing, it’s a bummer that he seems like a turd.
Also, I remember when he won the marseille contest, he was on some hosoi type shit, or at least that’s how the skate media painted it.
16 years old, 20 years ago. Doesnt miss a beat this whole fucking run.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKo1q1l98ns
Too bad he didn’t knock the light pole down and skate the secret subterranean fountain
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I have to chuckle about a dude with a 25 year career with a pass to film mostly in parks, who has so little footage.
For what it’s worth, I think what made Anti-hero really fucking cool is that they actually skated and filmed skateparks. I think people don’t realize that 15 or 20 years ago no one did that. They truly were doing stuff no other companies were doing and they ripped and it was relatable, but yeah tnt’s skating is amazing, it’s a bummer that he seems like a turd.
Also, I remember when he won the marseille contest, he was on some hosoi type shit, or at least that’s how the skate media painted it.
16 years old, 20 years ago. Doesnt miss a beat this whole fucking run.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKo1q1l98ns
I'm being pedantic, but he was 18. I only know because we're the same age. Also, re-watching that, it's very underwhelming.
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I have to chuckle about a dude with a 25 year career with a pass to film mostly in parks, who has so little footage.
For what it’s worth, I think what made Anti-hero really fucking cool is that they actually skated and filmed skateparks. I think people don’t realize that 15 or 20 years ago no one did that. They truly were doing stuff no other companies were doing and they ripped and it was relatable, but yeah tnt’s skating is amazing, it’s a bummer that he seems like a turd.
Also, I remember when he won the marseille contest, he was on some hosoi type shit, or at least that’s how the skate media painted it.
16 years old, 20 years ago. Doesnt miss a beat this whole fucking run.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKo1q1l98ns
I'm being pedantic, but he was 18. I only know because we're the same age. Also, re-watching that, it's very underwhelming.
IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO.
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I have to chuckle about a dude with a 25 year career with a pass to film mostly in parks, who has so little footage.
For what it’s worth, I think what made Anti-hero really fucking cool is that they actually skated and filmed skateparks. I think people don’t realize that 15 or 20 years ago no one did that. They truly were doing stuff no other companies were doing and they ripped and it was relatable, but yeah tnt’s skating is amazing, it’s a bummer that he seems like a turd.
Also, I remember when he won the marseille contest, he was on some hosoi type shit, or at least that’s how the skate media painted it.
16 years old, 20 years ago. Doesnt miss a beat this whole fucking run.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKo1q1l98ns
I'm being pedantic, but he was 18. I only know because we're the same age. Also, re-watching that, it's very underwhelming.
IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO.
It’s not though. Are you chaining together 4-6’ airs?
Also, is that Brain Patch in the weiner’s circle?
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I have to chuckle about a dude with a 25 year career with a pass to film mostly in parks, who has so little footage.
For what it’s worth, I think what made Anti-hero really fucking cool is that they actually skated and filmed skateparks. I think people don’t realize that 15 or 20 years ago no one did that. They truly were doing stuff no other companies were doing and they ripped and it was relatable, but yeah tnt’s skating is amazing, it’s a bummer that he seems like a turd.
Also, I remember when he won the marseille contest, he was on some hosoi type shit, or at least that’s how the skate media painted it.
16 years old, 20 years ago. Doesnt miss a beat this whole fucking run.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKo1q1l98ns
I'm being pedantic, but he was 18. I only know because we're the same age. Also, re-watching that, it's very underwhelming.
IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO.
It’s not though. Are you chaining together 4-6’ airs?
Also, is that Brain Patch in the weiner’s circle?
No, of course I’m not. But that’s not how being a critic works.
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I have to chuckle about a dude with a 25 year career with a pass to film mostly in parks, who has so little footage.
For what it’s worth, I think what made Anti-hero really fucking cool is that they actually skated and filmed skateparks. I think people don’t realize that 15 or 20 years ago no one did that. They truly were doing stuff no other companies were doing and they ripped and it was relatable, but yeah tnt’s skating is amazing, it’s a bummer that he seems like a turd.
Also, I remember when he won the marseille contest, he was on some hosoi type shit, or at least that’s how the skate media painted it.
16 years old, 20 years ago. Doesnt miss a beat this whole fucking run.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKo1q1l98ns
I'm being pedantic, but he was 18. I only know because we're the same age. Also, re-watching that, it's very underwhelming.
IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO.
It’s not though. Are you chaining together 4-6’ airs?
Also, is that Brain Patch in the weiner’s circle?
Believe it is. Looks like he's testing a sample of Roofies laced drinks to use later
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I have to chuckle about a dude with a 25 year career with a pass to film mostly in parks, who has so little footage.
For what it’s worth, I think what made Anti-hero really fucking cool is that they actually skated and filmed skateparks. I think people don’t realize that 15 or 20 years ago no one did that. They truly were doing stuff no other companies were doing and they ripped and it was relatable, but yeah tnt’s skating is amazing, it’s a bummer that he seems like a turd.
Also, I remember when he won the marseille contest, he was on some hosoi type shit, or at least that’s how the skate media painted it.
16 years old, 20 years ago. Doesnt miss a beat this whole fucking run.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKo1q1l98ns
I'm being pedantic, but he was 18. I only know because we're the same age. Also, re-watching that, it's very underwhelming.
IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO.
It’s not though. Are you chaining together 4-6’ airs?
Also, is that Brain Patch in the weiner’s circle?
No, of course I’m not. But that’s not how being a critic works.
You sound like the guy that goes to a demo and acts like someone forced him to be there.
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I have to chuckle about a dude with a 25 year career with a pass to film mostly in parks, who has so little footage.
For what it’s worth, I think what made Anti-hero really fucking cool is that they actually skated and filmed skateparks. I think people don’t realize that 15 or 20 years ago no one did that. They truly were doing stuff no other companies were doing and they ripped and it was relatable, but yeah tnt’s skating is amazing, it’s a bummer that he seems like a turd.
Also, I remember when he won the marseille contest, he was on some hosoi type shit, or at least that’s how the skate media painted it.
16 years old, 20 years ago. Doesnt miss a beat this whole fucking run.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKo1q1l98ns
I'm being pedantic, but he was 18. I only know because we're the same age. Also, re-watching that, it's very underwhelming.
Also to be pedantic, “doesn’t miss a beat whole fucking run” - misses a kickflip fakie not even a minute in.
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I have to chuckle about a dude with a 25 year career with a pass to film mostly in parks, who has so little footage.
For what it’s worth, I think what made Anti-hero really fucking cool is that they actually skated and filmed skateparks. I think people don’t realize that 15 or 20 years ago no one did that. They truly were doing stuff no other companies were doing and they ripped and it was relatable, but yeah tnt’s skating is amazing, it’s a bummer that he seems like a turd.
Also, I remember when he won the marseille contest, he was on some hosoi type shit, or at least that’s how the skate media painted it.
16 years old, 20 years ago. Doesnt miss a beat this whole fucking run.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKo1q1l98ns
I'm being pedantic, but he was 18. I only know because we're the same age. Also, re-watching that, it's very underwhelming.
Also to be pedantic, “doesn’t miss a beat whole fucking run” - misses a kickflip fakie not even a minute in.
That's not pedantic, thats pointing out a gross oversight I made. MY BAD I AM SORRY.