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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: Trilogy on May 22, 2023, 09:11:11 AM
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He is one my favorite skaters ever and I really know all his history and importance.
Dude was years ahead everyone in the mid-90s when he arrived at California from England.
I have seen that Etnies Hi-5 part, the chain ( Rob Dyrdek commented) part and the Menikmati part ( although that was all recycled footage ).
But I dont think he really had a really really mind-blowing magnum opus part ( I could be wrong... ).
Everything was not so video-recorded back then.
Maybe that even gives Penny more real skater mystic ( if you know what I mean ).
I wish he never jumped on those S.Dali rocks and never got injured around 2000 because I think if he didn't got injured his part in Sorrry might be his best, most legendary and closing video part like Mariano had in Mouse.
Anyway, He is one of the best ever, untouchable and a absolute skateboarding Legend.
What you guys think??
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He is one my favorite skaters ever and I really know all his history and importance.
Dude was years ahead everyone in the mid-90s when he arrived at California from England.
I have seen that Etnies Hi-5 part, the chain ( Rob Dyrdek commented) part and the Menikmati part ( although that was all recycled footage ).
But I dont think he really had a really really mind-blowing magnum opus part ( I could be wrong... ).
Everything was not so video-recorded back then.
Maybe that even gives Penny more real skater mystic ( if you know what I mean ).
I wish he never junped on those S.Dali rocks and never got injured around 2000 because I think if he didn't got injured his part in Sorrry might be his best, most legendary and closing video part like Mariano had in Mouse.
Anyway, He is one of the best ever, untouchable and a absolute skateboarding Legend.
What you guys think??
I completely understand what you mean. I hope this doesn’t come across as cliche but Penny’s magnum opus lies with Penny himself. You’ll hear stories from everyone, literally everyone about Penny. In fact, you hear them frequently a lot in the U.K. as of course, Penny is from Oxford and a lot of the legends here in the U.K. themselves grew up with Penny. I’ve luckily had the chance to film Penny a few years ago on a short lived Supra tour and I can honestly say it was mind blowing.
Seeing him operate, how he operates and how fluid he is, is a completely different level of skateboarder. He’s done a lot of skateboarding off camera and still does to this day. There’s numerous stories of him doing things off camera that were absolutely mind melting. If you look back at his mid 90’s to early 2000’s stage, he started skating vert and would often send flip nosebones and 540’s, a lot of the time padless until he ultimately put a helmet on to shoot his iconic flip nosebone.
Sorry for such a long reply, I don’t think I’ve actually got to the point I wanted to make. I guess the reply I was trying to give is that Penny simply being Penny with the skateboarding he’s done both on and off camera is his magnum opus. He might not have put it into a solid part, or parts over the years - but the fact that he’s a skate rat at heart and will continue to skate solo around his hometown, or wherever he’s currently living in the world at the time speaks volumes. Dude doesn’t need an entourage, he doesn’t need followers, filmers or photographers. More often than not, when he’s back in the U.K. he’ll just go anywhere and skate unannounced for the pure joy of it.
Tom’s magnum opus is quite literally himself and whenever he steps on his board.
A great dude to say the least.
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if you are asking why come penny doesnt have a magnum opus part, you must not really be a fan of Tom Penny/his lore
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being really honest I do like his really sorry part A LOT, I think its the closest one to this concept but it was done "past his prime"
On the topic: I hated his part in menikmati when it came out (and I still hate it) cause its a huge let down. It would've been better to have him with a few guest tricks inside the video instead.
They made that video for years and they got Koston to skate bangkok but couldn't get Tom to film a line? come on such a big opportunity missed
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He is one my favorite skaters ever and I really know all his history and importance.
Dude was years ahead everyone in the mid-90s when he arrived at California from England.
I have seen that Etnies Hi-5 part, the chain ( Rob Dyrdek commented) part and the Menikmati part ( although that was all recycled footage ).
But I dont think he really had a really really mind-blowing magnum opus part ( I could be wrong... ).
Everything was not so video-recorded back then.
Maybe that even gives Penny more real skater mystic ( if you know what I mean ).
I wish he never junped on those S.Dali rocks and never got injured around 2000 because I think if he didn't got injured his part in Sorrry might be his best, most legendary and closing video part like Mariano had in Mouse.
Anyway, He is one of the best ever, untouchable and a absolute skateboarding Legend.
What you guys think??
I completely understand what you mean. I hope this doesn’t come across as cliche but Penny’s magnum opus lies with Penny himself. You’ll hear stories from everyone, literally everyone about Penny. In fact, you hear them frequently a lot in the U.K. as of course, Penny is from Oxford and a lot of the legends here in the U.K. themselves grew up with Penny. I’ve luckily had the chance to film Penny a few years ago on a short lived Supra tour and I can honestly say it was mind blowing.
Seeing him operate, how he operates and how fluid he is, is a completely different level of skateboarder. He’s done a lot of skateboarding off camera and still does to this day. There’s numerous stories of him doing things off camera that were absolutely mind melting. If you look back at his mid 90’s to early 2000’s stage, he started skating vert and would often send flip nosebones and 540’s, a lot of the time padless until he ultimately put a helmet on to shoot his iconic flip nosebone.
Sorry for such a long reply, I don’t think I’ve actually got to the point I wanted to make. I guess the reply I was trying to give is that Penny simply being Penny with the skateboarding he’s done both on and off camera is his magnum opus. He might not have put it into a solid part, or parts over the years - but the fact that he’s a skate rat at heart and will continue to skate solo around his hometown, or wherever he’s currently living in the world at the time speaks volumes. Dude doesn’t need an entourage, he doesn’t need followers, filmers or photographers. More often than not, when he’s back in the U.K. he’ll just go anywhere and skate unannounced for the pure joy of it.
Tom’s magnum opus is quite literally himself and whenever he steps on his board.
A great dude to say the least.
Thank you for your reply, it was really the answer I was searching for.
Even me that was lame-ass skater have a few non documented Penny stories.
I have seen the Dude in person and it was mind-blowing.
Just give Penny skateboarding legendary and support for LIFE!!!
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are magnums what he fits?
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are magnums what he fits?
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Showing my age here, but for me it was his TSA Life in the Fast Lane part.
Probably not the best part he ever released, but for it's time and place in my life it was massively influential,
blew my fucking mind.
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are magnums what he fits?
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I know what you guys are joking.
Penny fits with his semi-baggy, brown regular accels, beenie and small neck silver chain were so cool!!!! ( that might be the GOAT skateboarding fit ever )
But maybe he did too much drugs and his super huge baggy corny Ecko, double XXXXL t-shirts were really bad...specially
in the skinny PD 2000 era, but dude is a skateboarding God and God's do what da F they want!!!
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Showing my age here, but for me it was his TSA Life in the Fast Lane part.
Probably not the best part he ever released, but for it's time and place in my life it was massively influential,
blew my fucking mind.
Wasn't there for it, but that's my fav part of his as well.
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Magnus Opum*
Don’t forget your Slapisms.
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Magnus Opum*
Don’t forget your Slapisms.
Ahahaha
Thats right!
One day it will someone fake Danish Slap's nickname.
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different time. different skater. thats part of the mystique. the fables go that he landed things very quickly and never cared to ask the filmer or photographer anything and would try spontanious and outrageous tricks without warning. Contests were the way you got your name out compared to video parts. Penny would just show up to the contests and would litght the parks on fire in practice and when it came finals time, he would take the back seat.
Its a whole thing and a whole legend. it was just the tricks he did. its the stuff you would have to be there to see that no footage got and is hard to believe unless you were there.
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No, he didn’t have one unless you count Menikmati. Honestly I respect the man but his refusal to put together a real part always came off as kinda lame and disrespectful. If Guy could put in the work for Mouse, Penny could have put out at least one good part. Not cool collecting big checks to barely show up.
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His magnum opus is Beyond the good and evil.
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Much like the Muska they both transcend the concept of a singular magnum opus part. Who else also transcends in a similar manner? Gino..lol? That boy sure can push.
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He is one my favorite skaters ever and I really know all his history and importance.
Dude was years ahead everyone in the mid-90s when he arrived at California from England.
I have seen that Etnies Hi-5 part, the chain ( Rob Dyrdek commented) part and the Menikmati part ( although that was all recycled footage ).
But I dont think he really had a really really mind-blowing magnum opus part ( I could be wrong... ).
Everything was not so video-recorded back then.
Maybe that even gives Penny more real skater mystic ( if you know what I mean ).
I wish he never jumped on those S.Dali rocks and never got injured around 2000 because I think if he didn't got injured his part in Sorrry might be his best, most legendary and closing video part like Mariano had in Mouse.
Anyway, He is one of the best ever, untouchable and a absolute skateboarding Legend.
What you guys think??
At least 6 maybe 12
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Just that nollie backside flip over the chain into the bank is so beautiful and perfect that trick alone could be his magnum opus.
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Just that nollie backside flip over the chain into the bank is so beautiful and perfect that trick alone could be his magnum opus.
And then he sealed the deal with the switch backside flip.
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are magnums what he fits?
LoL
I know what you guys are joking.
Penny fits with his semi-baggy, brown regular accels, beenie and small neck silver chain were so cool!!!! ( that might be the GOAT skateboarding fit ever
With the polo shirt!
I combine his Hi5 and TSA parts together and consider them his magnum. That’s the era.
Just did a search of him and saw a pic of him bsts’n hubba in Mc Raps, never seen that one before.
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Watching him skate mini ramps/bowls was always the thing about him that just left me stunned. Everything he did was amazing, but I would give anything to be able to flip flop around on transition the way he did/does.
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No, he didn’t have one unless you count Menikmati. Honestly I respect the man but his refusal to put together a real part always came off as kinda lame and disrespectful. If Guy could put in the work for Mouse, Penny could have put out at least one good part. Not cool collecting big checks to barely show up.
He made every company he rode for a boatload of money. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that he made Flip and eS MORE money because of how illusive he was/is.
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I think there's arguments to be made for the chain to bank session being his magnus, or his sorry part, or even his really sorry part. As quickly put together as that was after Sorry there was some great footage in there. I'll still rewatch his Extremely Sorry part (with the sound).
But as a few others have said his greatness really does lie in everything else about him that creates the context for his tricks.
Not to mythologize or wax too much but there are a few real characters in skateboarding of wildly varying career trajectories and Tom's one of them.
But OP, I completely see your point. In terms of straight video parts at career milestones or in big productions , it's hard to really say which part is his actual best.
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Just going to leave this one here. Just incase you haven't seen it.
https://youtu.be/THyo84BI_mw
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I love watching Cory Juneau skate because his style is so much like Penny's.
His tricks seem to glitch into slo-mo, he lands them with the same sleepy fade.
Both have questionable fashion taste but I don't care.
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No, he didn’t have one unless you count Menikmati. Honestly I respect the man but his refusal to put together a real part always came off as kinda lame and disrespectful. If Guy could put in the work for Mouse, Penny could have put out at least one good part. Not cool collecting big checks to barely show up.
He made every company he rode for a boatload of money. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that he made Flip and eS MORE money because of how illusive he was/is.
WHO would he be putting out the parts for? There wasn’t a Flip or eS video in the 90s and it certainly isn’t like today where people are going to wreck themselves for a wheel sponsor part which would probably be a shop promo video anyways.
Penny got injured on that rock jump from the beginning of Sorry! and Flip and eS decided how they were going to handle his footage (which is why he has one new trick in his part and at least one in the two team montages).
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No, he didn’t have one unless you count Menikmati. Honestly I respect the man but his refusal to put together a real part always came off as kinda lame and disrespectful. If Guy could put in the work for Mouse, Penny could have put out at least one good part. Not cool collecting big checks to barely show up.
He made every company he rode for a boatload of money. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that he made Flip and eS MORE money because of how illusive he was/is.
WHO would he be putting out the parts for? There wasn’t a Flip or eS video in the 90s and it certainly isn’t like today where people are going to wreck themselves for a wheel sponsor part which would probably be a shop promo video anyways.
Penny got injured on that rock jump from the beginning of Sorry! and Flip and eS decided how they were going to handle his footage (which is why he has one new trick in his part and at least one in the two team montages).
Crazy he got hurt from this. He looks fine getting up in the footage
https://youtu.be/pOCHl4oXaZY
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His magnum opus’s are his runs at Radlands.
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Just going to leave this one here. Just incase you haven't seen it.
https://youtu.be/THyo84BI_mw
Last trick is other worldly.
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His line in the 411 industry section topped of by the Carlsbad swithflip encapsulate why he is the GOAT for me.
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No, he didn’t have one unless you count Menikmati. Honestly I respect the man but his refusal to put together a real part always came off as kinda lame and disrespectful. If Guy could put in the work for Mouse, Penny could have put out at least one good part. Not cool collecting big checks to barely show up.
He made every company he rode for a boatload of money. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that he made Flip and eS MORE money because of how illusive he was/is.
I never bought a thing related to him because even though I’m a fan I didn’t feel like he deserved my money.
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For the pure vibes this emanates, I say this is the one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub2x_6cMLJs
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No, he didn’t have one unless you count Menikmati. Honestly I respect the man but his refusal to put together a real part always came off as kinda lame and disrespectful. If Guy could put in the work for Mouse, Penny could have put out at least one good part. Not cool collecting big checks to barely show up.
He made every company he rode for a boatload of money. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that he made Flip and eS MORE money because of how illusive he was/is.
You’re a fan but you don’t want to support him? No shade but I don’t get it
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John Cardiel, who I think is just as legendary as Penny, never really had a magnum opus either
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No, he didn’t have one unless you count Menikmati. Honestly I respect the man but his refusal to put together a real part always came off as kinda lame and disrespectful. If Guy could put in the work for Mouse, Penny could have put out at least one good part. Not cool collecting big checks to barely show up.
He made every company he rode for a boatload of money. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that he made Flip and eS MORE money because of how illusive he was/is.
I demand my monkeys dance before I throw cash at them. Fun watching them run around picking up the bills!
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John Cardiel, who I think is just as legendary as Penny, never really had a magnum opus either
are you Henry Sanchez or something?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Smo7vqZX0-A
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Magnus Opum*
Don’t forget your Slapisms.
I’ll Gnar a David Cloud Berman fan any & all days.
“ But a lonely man can't make a move
If he can't even bring himself to choose
Between a pair of black and a pair of brown shoes” - DCB
He chose brown in this case (Penny)
https://youtu.be/iK_VtyTp-f0
See you again for another Gnar
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411 Europe 1996, that tape I wore out replaying the Penny clips.
Some of the clips are in this edit.
http://youtu.be/Jwxu0eHT0xw
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No, he didn’t have one unless you count Menikmati. Honestly I respect the man but his refusal to put together a real part always came off as kinda lame and disrespectful. If Guy could put in the work for Mouse, Penny could have put out at least one good part. Not cool collecting big checks to barely show up.
He made every company he rode for a boatload of money. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that he made Flip and eS MORE money because of how illusive he was/is.
You’re a fan but you don’t want to support him? No shade but I don’t get it
I liked his skating but I’d rather support other skaters who worked harder. Just felt rude to be like “he never cared about filming”.
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I’m confused—I thought his High Five part was the opus?
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are magnums what he fits?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us5MGEL5W34
Penny seems like he's got a hog in his pants.
The lack of consistent video output and the mystery of the man is Penny's magnum opus.
He's the rarest of pro skaters where less is more, Gino and Julien are the same league IMO.
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I think this tells a perfect tale of his greatness
https://youtu.be/Di9c3odrJ3c
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No, he didn’t have one unless you count Menikmati. Honestly I respect the man but his refusal to put together a real part always came off as kinda lame and disrespectful. If Guy could put in the work for Mouse, Penny could have put out at least one good part. Not cool collecting big checks to barely show up.
He made every company he rode for a boatload of money. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that he made Flip and eS MORE money because of how illusive he was/is.
You’re a fan but you don’t want to support him? No shade but I don’t get it
he seemed to care enough, theres tons of footy from that era of him
flip screwed up by never showcasing their late 90's team properly imo
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I’m confused—I thought his High Five part was the opus?
All 90s Penny tricks were so well documented that we had already seen pictures for almost every trick in High Five. Off the dome…
Nolliecopter
Switch board slide
Hip kickflip
Kickflip backside tailstall in pool
Switch frontside flip
These tricks were all In Transworld magazine before the video dropped so no surprises.
His Radlands 95’ contest run and the Flip industry section was the Penny on Magnum. Both clips were so sick and unexpected.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E54RueabXLw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Os1VShnHSas
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His Etnies high five part. That was the culmination and true introduction to his talent.
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It would be cool if Tom Penny had a Manolo tape.
( btw, I think Manolo is a Genius and has great taste )
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No, he didn’t have one unless you count Menikmati. Honestly I respect the man but his refusal to put together a real part always came off as kinda lame and disrespectful. If Guy could put in the work for Mouse, Penny could have put out at least one good part. Not cool collecting big checks to barely show up.
He made every company he rode for a boatload of money. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that he made Flip and eS MORE money because of how illusive he was/is.
You’re a fan but you don’t want to support him? No shade but I don’t get it
This is a bit of a stretch. It's not that he didn't care about filming. He's just someone that skated regardless of whether there was a camera or chance of getting clips involved.
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high five 100%
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http://youtu.be/gjLFJtEnEfM
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I remember being disappointed at his Sorry part at the time as we had to wait years for it and everyone was expecting the game changer, but in hindsight I think that the Arto delirium dream sequence part comes the closest to capturing Tom's mystique. There's nothing in there that's mind blowing skate-wise, but the editing, coupled with venus in furs, creates a hallucinatory feeling of "did that really happen, or was it just a dream?". The fact that he dropped out of the scene by the time it came out reinforced this as you'd have to rely on stories from people who were there to witness him - kind of like a yeti sighting. I quite like the fact that there is no career defining part, as his legend is perpetuated in a similar manner to a folk tale.
https://youtu.be/1SfHufOw3uY
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I was with Tom in a friends house once, who had a massive collection of UK skate mags, i pulled out the Sidewalk issue with the blindside nollie flip at Meanwhile 2. I asked him about it, he said he was in London with Wig Worland and fancied skating there, they both tried to get a filmer to no avail, and he landed it several times after a few tries and said I don't think i have ever been back there nonchalantly. This kind of typifies his career to me, he does what he wants when he wanted too, documented or not it was never a priority for him.
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Hi Five is fucking perfect
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I love that there is no obvious mega-calculated part from Penny, this is the magic with him. In the early 90´s skating was more fluid and not so planned out, and it feels like Penny kept this going in a time where production became bigger and people had tricks written down and everything became mega calculated. I mean, lots of the classic Penny stuff is things that people just happend to film. Like, I regularly watch pennys flip over the hip in Radlands, some 25 years later. Its a flip. In a skatepark. That someone happend to film. And it feels like most of his stuff was a spur of the moment stuff.
Thats some magic people like Nyjah etc could never capture.
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He is one my favorite skaters ever and I really know all his history and importance.
Dude was years ahead everyone in the mid-90s when he arrived at California from England.
I have seen that Etnies Hi-5 part, the chain ( Rob Dyrdek commented) part and the Menikmati part ( although that was all recycled footage ).
But I dont think he really had a really really mind-blowing magnum opus part ( I could be wrong... ).
Everything was not so video-recorded back then.
Maybe that even gives Penny more real skater mystic ( if you know what I mean ).
I wish he never junped on those S.Dali rocks and never got injured around 2000 because I think if he didn't got injured his part in Sorrry might be his best, most legendary and closing video part like Mariano had in Mouse.
Anyway, He is one of the best ever, untouchable and a absolute skateboarding Legend.
What you guys think??
I completely understand what you mean. I hope this doesn’t come across as cliche but Penny’s magnum opus lies with Penny himself. You’ll hear stories from everyone, literally everyone about Penny. In fact, you hear them frequently a lot in the U.K. as of course, Penny is from Oxford and a lot of the legends here in the U.K. themselves grew up with Penny. I’ve luckily had the chance to film Penny a few years ago on a short lived Supra tour and I can honestly say it was mind blowing.
Seeing him operate, how he operates and how fluid he is, is a completely different level of skateboarder. He’s done a lot of skateboarding off camera and still does to this day. There’s numerous stories of him doing things off camera that were absolutely mind melting. If you look back at his mid 90’s to early 2000’s stage, he started skating vert and would often send flip nosebones and 540’s, a lot of the time padless until he ultimately put a helmet on to shoot his iconic flip nosebone.
Sorry for such a long reply, I don’t think I’ve actually got to the point I wanted to make. I guess the reply I was trying to give is that Penny simply being Penny with the skateboarding he’s done both on and off camera is his magnum opus. He might not have put it into a solid part, or parts over the years - but the fact that he’s a skate rat at heart and will continue to skate solo around his hometown, or wherever he’s currently living in the world at the time speaks volumes. Dude doesn’t need an entourage, he doesn’t need followers, filmers or photographers. More often than not, when he’s back in the U.K. he’ll just go anywhere and skate unannounced for the pure joy of it.
Tom’s magnum opus is quite literally himself and whenever he steps on his board.
A great dude to say the least.
This is the correct answer
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Just going to leave this one here. Just incase you haven't seen it.
https://youtu.be/THyo84BI_mw
Last trick is other worldly.
Ally-oop floater across the gap was *chefs kiss*.
I'd almost lean towards Hi-5, some of the stories that came out of that era like the police station k/f over the rail coming out of nowhere and then the f/s flip first go and the San Dieguito night session really put into perspective how far beyond Penny was at that time, plus the song.
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http://youtu.be/gjLFJtEnEfM
Agreed, this part has everything you need. park, ramps, street plus the best style
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As others said, he doesn’t need one, that’s what contributed to his legacy, especially for those who weren’t there/ didn’t skate during those days. Like if I was a young kid in 2023, I could literally watch Koston’s legacy chronologically on YouTube in a single afternoon and be done with it. Penny needs to be studied, he is an enigma. My fav 3 stories:
1. Lights going off mid demo on a mini ramp and when they come back on, he’s mid frontside flip; that’s some zen Buddhist shit!
2. That eS ad where’s he perched so fucking high up on the roll in doing a tre flip. So much could go wrong but it’s a given that he was even concerned with any of that and/ or was stoked out of his mind (as probably on shrooms too).
3. That pic of him blindside nollie backside flipping those two big concrete half pipes in the UK. Word has it he landed it, rolled up the other side, kinda stepped off sketchy and then just disappeared. Classic Penny, I bet people would still struggle with doing that trick in 2023!
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3. That pic of him blindside nollie backside flipping those two big concrete half pipes in the UK. Word has it he landed it, rolled up the other side, kinda stepped off sketchy and then just disappeared. Classic Penny, I bet people would still struggle with doing that trick in 2023!
As far as I'm aware, no other nollie trick has gone down at Meanwhile. Lutzka did an allez oop frontside flip once, which I'd say was the next best thing done there.
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3. That pic of him blindside nollie backside flipping those two big concrete half pipes in the UK. Word has it he landed it, rolled up the other side, kinda stepped off sketchy and then just disappeared. Classic Penny, I bet people would still struggle with doing that trick in 2023!
As far as I'm aware, no other nollie trick has gone down at Meanwhile. Lutzka did an allez oop frontside flip once, which I'd say was the next best thing done there.
Keith Hufnagel tre flipped it during the DC Europe Super Tour in like 1996 or so.
I would say pure based on the fact that you more often see a frontside flip over a gap or down some stairs than 3 flips, the tre would be more difficult.
That is pure objectively speaking, if we take into account who did what trick, well.... No contest.
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No, he didn’t have one unless you count Menikmati. Honestly I respect the man but his refusal to put together a real part always came off as kinda lame and disrespectful. If Guy could put in the work for Mouse, Penny could have put out at least one good part. Not cool collecting big checks to barely show up.
He made every company he rode for a boatload of money. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that he made Flip and eS MORE money because of how illusive he was/is.
You’re a fan but you don’t want to support him? No shade but I don’t get it
This is a bit of a stretch. It's not that he didn't care about filming. He's just someone that skated regardless of whether there was a camera or chance of getting clips involved.
Isn’t this basically the same thing?
I’ll try to explain it differently. Imagine you’re a Lakers fan and you buy season tickets because you live Lebron. You attend every game. Lebron shows up every eighth or ninth game and plays amazingly. Not because he’s injured or can’t play. In fact every time you show up to a game you hear he’d actually been in the arena earlier playing, and doing the most amazing shit, sorry you missed it. Lebron loves basketball so much, but he plays whenever he feels like it, not when fans expect. Would you feel like buying tickets was a good idea?
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Keith Hufnagel tre flipped it during the DC Europe Super Tour in like 1996 or so.
I would say pure based on the fact that you more often see a frontside flip over a gap or down some stairs than 3 flips, the tre would be more difficult.
That is pure objectively speaking, if we take into account who did what trick, well.... No contest.
Not in my opinion. It's not a normal frontside flip we're talking about but alley-oop - so he's essentially going 270, the hard way. A tre is relatively straightforward in comparison.
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Sometimes he'll skate my local, I could watch him blast kf to fakie in the bowl for days
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I love that there is no obvious mega-calculated part from Penny, this is the magic with him. In the early 90´s skating was more fluid and not so planned out, and it feels like Penny kept this going in a time where production became bigger and people had tricks written down and everything became mega calculated. I mean, lots of the classic Penny stuff is things that people just happend to film. Like, I regularly watch pennys flip over the hip in Radlands, some 25 years later. Its a flip. In a skatepark. That someone happend to film. And it feels like most of his stuff was a spur of the moment stuff.
Thats some magic people like Nyjah etc could never capture.
Totally!!!
Like you said, Penny was just skating and by coincidence someone was filming, not super calculated like most of this new generation obsessive corny Thrasher SOTY award seekers skateboarders.
Makes sense, because everyone knows in 1995 the most influential skateboarder was Tom Penny and not Chris Senn which Thrasher gave the award too.
But I respect Nyjah, I think he is very talented, a skate rat and really gives everything when he is skating.
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No, he didn’t have one unless you count Menikmati. Honestly I respect the man but his refusal to put together a real part always came off as kinda lame and disrespectful. If Guy could put in the work for Mouse, Penny could have put out at least one good part. Not cool collecting big checks to barely show up.
He made every company he rode for a boatload of money. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that he made Flip and eS MORE money because of how illusive he was/is.
You’re a fan but you don’t want to support him? No shade but I don’t get it
This is a bit of a stretch. It's not that he didn't care about filming. He's just someone that skated regardless of whether there was a camera or chance of getting clips involved.
I’ll try to explain it differently. Imagine you’re a Lakers fan and you buy season tickets because you live Lebron. You attend every game. Lebron shows up every eighth or ninth game and plays amazingly. Not because he’s injured or can’t play. In fact every time you show up to a game you hear he’d actually been in the arena earlier playing, and doing the most amazing shit, sorry you missed it. Lebron loves basketball so much, but he plays whenever he feels like it, not when fans expect. Would you feel like buying tickets was a good idea?
This is a poor analogy because basketball is both a sport based on statistics/winning and publicly performative whereas skateboarding is an art form based on style and largely on spontaneity. No one who financially supported Penny specifically missed out on anything because, thankfully, there is no metric of how much one should skate or film. Plus, Penny filmed a lot, especially considering the circumstances, it’s just spread out all over the place.
Also, just generally, less is more, in my opinion.
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No, he didn’t have one unless you count Menikmati. Honestly I respect the man but his refusal to put together a real part always came off as kinda lame and disrespectful. If Guy could put in the work for Mouse, Penny could have put out at least one good part. Not cool collecting big checks to barely show up.
He made every company he rode for a boatload of money. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that he made Flip and eS MORE money because of how illusive he was/is.
You’re a fan but you don’t want to support him? No shade but I don’t get it
This is a bit of a stretch. It's not that he didn't care about filming. He's just someone that skated regardless of whether there was a camera or chance of getting clips involved.
I’ll try to explain it differently. Imagine you’re a Lakers fan and you buy season tickets because you live Lebron. You attend every game. Lebron shows up every eighth or ninth game and plays amazingly. Not because he’s injured or can’t play. In fact every time you show up to a game you hear he’d actually been in the arena earlier playing, and doing the most amazing shit, sorry you missed it. Lebron loves basketball so much, but he plays whenever he feels like it, not when fans expect. Would you feel like buying tickets was a good idea?
This is a poor analogy because basketball is both a sport based on statistics/winning and publicly performative whereas skateboarding is an art form based on style and largely on spontaneity. No one who financially supported Penny specifically missed out on anything because, thankfully, there is no metric of how much one should skate or film. Plus, Penny filmed a lot, especially considering the circumstances, it’s just spread out all over the place.
Also, just generally, less is more, in my opinion.
How is skateboarding an art form but not publicly performative? Yhat doesn’t make sense.
There is a metric- video parts. We hear people on here all the time saying someone’s career doesn’t count because they rarely put out parts- Luan Olivera or Rayssa Leal for instance. Or how it’s not ok that Beatrice Domond got a board without putting out a full part. Everyone is giving Penny a pass because he was a generational talent, or because it would be really sick to be so good that you don’t have to bother with hall the bullshit that lesser pros do. That’s fine. But I don’t know why I should try to convince myself that he deserves my money or that it’s really awesome that we didn’t see a ton of footage from him. That’s ridiculous. No one here actually prefers that he never put out a great part.
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Tbh I think Penny's biggest problem was he got injured around 2001 when he jumped on those S.Dali rocks, if he wasn't injured I bet his Flip part was going to be one of the best and most epic parts ever.
He was very productive in thd mid-90s and you can see footage of why we still love him today.
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At a demo once, a lil kid ran out from the crowd and onto the pyramid hip, just as Penny was approaching. Everyone though he was gonna cleave that wee lad in twain, but he just popped the hugest mute grab on pure reflex, and sailed over the kids head.
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At a demo once, a lil kid ran out from the crowd and onto the pyramid hip, just as Penny was approaching. Everyone though he was gonna cleave that wee lad in twain, but he just popped the hugest mute grab on pure reflex, and sailed over the kids head.
feel like that kid would've grown up to smoke weed exclusively out of aluminum cans or something after experiencing that
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At a demo once, a lil kid ran out from the crowd and onto the pyramid hip, just as Penny was approaching. Everyone though he was gonna cleave that wee lad in twain, but he just popped the hugest mute grab on pure reflex, and sailed over the kids head.
Are talking about the Really sorry premier in the Gothenburg skatepark? He didn’t mute grabed over the kid (Rasmus) but he did a fs ollie over him
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didn't Reynolds make his own a Penny compilation videotape that he would watch all the time? maybe that's the edit we need to see. that or an edit by MemoryScreen.
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This is it:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck_MnOhJT-U/?hl=en
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No, he didn’t have one unless you count Menikmati. Honestly I respect the man but his refusal to put together a real part always came off as kinda lame and disrespectful. If Guy could put in the work for Mouse, Penny could have put out at least one good part. Not cool collecting big checks to barely show up.
He made every company he rode for a boatload of money. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that he made Flip and eS MORE money because of how illusive he was/is.
You’re a fan but you don’t want to support him? No shade but I don’t get it
This is a bit of a stretch. It's not that he didn't care about filming. He's just someone that skated regardless of whether there was a camera or chance of getting clips involved.
I’ll try to explain it differently. Imagine you’re a Lakers fan and you buy season tickets because you live Lebron. You attend every game. Lebron shows up every eighth or ninth game and plays amazingly. Not because he’s injured or can’t play. In fact every time you show up to a game you hear he’d actually been in the arena earlier playing, and doing the most amazing shit, sorry you missed it. Lebron loves basketball so much, but he plays whenever he feels like it, not when fans expect. Would you feel like buying tickets was a good idea?
This is a poor analogy because basketball is both a sport based on statistics/winning and publicly performative whereas skateboarding is an art form based on style and largely on spontaneity. No one who financially supported Penny specifically missed out on anything because, thankfully, there is no metric of how much one should skate or film. Plus, Penny filmed a lot, especially considering the circumstances, it’s just spread out all over the place.
Also, just generally, less is more, in my opinion.
There is a metric- video parts. We hear people on here all the time saying someone’s career doesn’t count because they rarely put out parts- Luan Olivera or Rayssa Leal for instance. Or how it’s not ok that Beatrice Domond got a board without putting out a full part. Everyone is giving Penny a pass because he was a generational talent, or because it would be really sick to be so good that you don’t have to bother with hall the bullshit that lesser pros do. That’s fine. But I don’t know why I should try to convince myself that he deserves my money or that it’s really awesome that we didn’t see a ton of footage from him. That’s ridiculous. No one here actually prefers that he never put out a great part.
Penny probably has more footage than Luan, Rayssa and Beatrice combined. Maybe he didn't put together a big career-defining part, but I'd MUCH rather have the footy we have of him doing what he loves than some manufactured part.
You gotta take the L when you start comparing Penny to three skaters who most people will likely forget in ten years. Talk about not making sense.
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No, he didn’t have one unless you count Menikmati. Honestly I respect the man but his refusal to put together a real part always came off as kinda lame and disrespectful. If Guy could put in the work for Mouse, Penny could have put out at least one good part. Not cool collecting big checks to barely show up.
He made every company he rode for a boatload of money. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that he made Flip and eS MORE money because of how illusive he was/is.
You’re a fan but you don’t want to support him? No shade but I don’t get it
This is a bit of a stretch. It's not that he didn't care about filming. He's just someone that skated regardless of whether there was a camera or chance of getting clips involved.
I’ll try to explain it differently. Imagine you’re a Lakers fan and you buy season tickets because you live Lebron. You attend every game. Lebron shows up every eighth or ninth game and plays amazingly. Not because he’s injured or can’t play. In fact every time you show up to a game you hear he’d actually been in the arena earlier playing, and doing the most amazing shit, sorry you missed it. Lebron loves basketball so much, but he plays whenever he feels like it, not when fans expect. Would you feel like buying tickets was a good idea?
This is a poor analogy because basketball is both a sport based on statistics/winning and publicly performative whereas skateboarding is an art form based on style and largely on spontaneity. No one who financially supported Penny specifically missed out on anything because, thankfully, there is no metric of how much one should skate or film. Plus, Penny filmed a lot, especially considering the circumstances, it’s just spread out all over the place.
Also, just generally, less is more, in my opinion.
There is a metric- video parts. We hear people on here all the time saying someone’s career doesn’t count because they rarely put out parts- Luan Olivera or Rayssa Leal for instance. Or how it’s not ok that Beatrice Domond got a board without putting out a full part. Everyone is giving Penny a pass because he was a generational talent, or because it would be really sick to be so good that you don’t have to bother with hall the bullshit that lesser pros do. That’s fine. But I don’t know why I should try to convince myself that he deserves my money or that it’s really awesome that we didn’t see a ton of footage from him. That’s ridiculous. No one here actually prefers that he never put out a great part.
It’s not publicly performative because generally people don’t line up at an arena and pay to go watch skateboarding, and certainly not in Penny’s heyday, which is the only way professional basketball functions.
And again, there actually is a ton of footage from him, it’s just spread out. His job was, and still is, to skate, and he does, quite a lot. You seem more upset that he was incredibly talented and didn’t really seem to care that much, which is a characteristic of a master of their craft. No one is making you support Penny, but people actively choose to, for good reason, because he’s a skateboarding deity. It’s pretty simple, just watch…literally anything he’s ever done.
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No, he didn’t have one unless you count Menikmati. Honestly I respect the man but his refusal to put together a real part always came off as kinda lame and disrespectful. If Guy could put in the work for Mouse, Penny could have put out at least one good part. Not cool collecting big checks to barely show up.
He made every company he rode for a boatload of money. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that he made Flip and eS MORE money because of how illusive he was/is.
You’re a fan but you don’t want to support him? No shade but I don’t get it
This is a bit of a stretch. It's not that he didn't care about filming. He's just someone that skated regardless of whether there was a camera or chance of getting clips involved.
I’ll try to explain it differently. Imagine you’re a Lakers fan and you buy season tickets because you live Lebron. You attend every game. Lebron shows up every eighth or ninth game and plays amazingly. Not because he’s injured or can’t play. In fact every time you show up to a game you hear he’d actually been in the arena earlier playing, and doing the most amazing shit, sorry you missed it. Lebron loves basketball so much, but he plays whenever he feels like it, not when fans expect. Would you feel like buying tickets was a good idea?
This is a poor analogy because basketball is both a sport based on statistics/winning and publicly performative whereas skateboarding is an art form based on style and largely on spontaneity. No one who financially supported Penny specifically missed out on anything because, thankfully, there is no metric of how much one should skate or film. Plus, Penny filmed a lot, especially considering the circumstances, it’s just spread out all over the place.
Also, just generally, less is more, in my opinion.
There is a metric- video parts. We hear people on here all the time saying someone’s career doesn’t count because they rarely put out parts- Luan Olivera or Rayssa Leal for instance. Or how it’s not ok that Beatrice Domond got a board without putting out a full part. Everyone is giving Penny a pass because he was a generational talent, or because it would be really sick to be so good that you don’t have to bother with hall the bullshit that lesser pros do. That’s fine. But I don’t know why I should try to convince myself that he deserves my money or that it’s really awesome that we didn’t see a ton of footage from him. That’s ridiculous. No one here actually prefers that he never put out a great part.
Penny probably has more footage than Luan, Rayssa and Beatrice combined. Maybe he didn't put together a big career-defining part, but I'd MUCH rather have the footy we have of him doing what he loves than some manufactured part.
You gotta take the L when you start comparing Penny to three skaters who most people will likely forget in ten years. Talk about not making sense.
Playing for a crowd and recording your footage to play for people to watch is the same thing. More people watch basketball on tv than they do live.
Rayssa is going to be forgotten in ten years? She’s the most talented female street skater alive and she’s fifteen. She’ll still be famous ten years from now and remembered much longer than that. You guys are being absurd. You’re now trying to tell me that intentionally filming something makes it “manufactured “. I guess you don’t like 99% of skate vids then?
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No, he didn’t have one unless you count Menikmati. Honestly I respect the man but his refusal to put together a real part always came off as kinda lame and disrespectful. If Guy could put in the work for Mouse, Penny could have put out at least one good part. Not cool collecting big checks to barely show up.
He made every company he rode for a boatload of money. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that he made Flip and eS MORE money because of how illusive he was/is.
You’re a fan but you don’t want to support him? No shade but I don’t get it
This is a bit of a stretch. It's not that he didn't care about filming. He's just someone that skated regardless of whether there was a camera or chance of getting clips involved.
I’ll try to explain it differently. Imagine you’re a Lakers fan and you buy season tickets because you live Lebron. You attend every game. Lebron shows up every eighth or ninth game and plays amazingly. Not because he’s injured or can’t play. In fact every time you show up to a game you hear he’d actually been in the arena earlier playing, and doing the most amazing shit, sorry you missed it. Lebron loves basketball so much, but he plays whenever he feels like it, not when fans expect. Would you feel like buying tickets was a good idea?
This is a poor analogy because basketball is both a sport based on statistics/winning and publicly performative whereas skateboarding is an art form based on style and largely on spontaneity. No one who financially supported Penny specifically missed out on anything because, thankfully, there is no metric of how much one should skate or film. Plus, Penny filmed a lot, especially considering the circumstances, it’s just spread out all over the place.
Also, just generally, less is more, in my opinion.
There is a metric- video parts. We hear people on here all the time saying someone’s career doesn’t count because they rarely put out parts- Luan Olivera or Rayssa Leal for instance. Or how it’s not ok that Beatrice Domond got a board without putting out a full part. Everyone is giving Penny a pass because he was a generational talent, or because it would be really sick to be so good that you don’t have to bother with hall the bullshit that lesser pros do. That’s fine. But I don’t know why I should try to convince myself that he deserves my money or that it’s really awesome that we didn’t see a ton of footage from him. That’s ridiculous. No one here actually prefers that he never put out a great part.
Penny probably has more footage than Luan, Rayssa and Beatrice combined. Maybe he didn't put together a big career-defining part, but I'd MUCH rather have the footy we have of him doing what he loves than some manufactured part.
You gotta take the L when you start comparing Penny to three skaters who most people will likely forget in ten years. Talk about not making sense.
Rayssa is going to be forgotten in ten years? She’s the most talented female street skater alive and she’s fifteen. She’ll still be famous ten years from now and remembered much longer than that. You guys are being absurd. You’re now trying :-\ to tell me that intentionally filming something makes it “manufactured “. I guess you don’t like 99% of skate vids then?
lol dude tens of thousands of people watching a professional basketball game either in person or live on TV is nowhere near the same thing as a skate video part, making that comparison is what’s absurd.
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There’s nothing absurd about it. The point is they’re both things with an audience. Skaters are expected to perform on video. How else would people who don’t skate with them judge how good they are?
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There’s nothing absurd about it. The point is they’re both things with an audience. Skaters are expected to perform on video. How else would people who don’t skate with them judge how good they are?
Last response because you’re just being straight obtuse at this point but professional basketball and professional skateboarding function entirely differently from one another, absolutely wild this needs to be explained, and for the millionth time, Penny filmed the exact same, if not more than his contemporaries, it was just spread out across many different video projects.
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There’s nothing absurd about it. The point is they’re both things with an audience. Skaters are expected to perform on video. How else would people who don’t skate with them judge how good they are?
Last response because you’re just being straight obtuse at this point but professional basketball and professional skateboarding function entirely differently from one another, absolutely wild this needs to be explained, and for the millionth time, Penny filmed the exact same, if not more than his contemporaries, it was just spread out across many different video projects.
Every sport or art involves people paying in some way for the people to produce. Penny did not produce on the level of his contemporaries. Are you seriously trying to argue he put out as much in the 90s as Koston, or Creager? Or Heath? No way and you have multiple people on this thread saying as much- in fact, trying to claim his scarce footage was a good thing.
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No, he didn’t have one unless you count Menikmati. Honestly I respect the man but his refusal to put together a real part always came off as kinda lame and disrespectful. If Guy could put in the work for Mouse, Penny could have put out at least one good part. Not cool collecting big checks to barely show up.
He made every company he rode for a boatload of money. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that he made Flip and eS MORE money because of how illusive he was/is.
You’re a fan but you don’t want to support him? No shade but I don’t get it
This is a bit of a stretch. It's not that he didn't care about filming. He's just someone that skated regardless of whether there was a camera or chance of getting clips involved.
I’ll try to explain it differently. Imagine you’re a Lakers fan and you buy season tickets because you live Lebron. You attend every game. Lebron shows up every eighth or ninth game and plays amazingly. Not because he’s injured or can’t play. In fact every time you show up to a game you hear he’d actually been in the arena earlier playing, and doing the most amazing shit, sorry you missed it. Lebron loves basketball so much, but he plays whenever he feels like it, not when fans expect. Would you feel like buying tickets was a good idea?
This is a poor analogy because basketball is both a sport based on statistics/winning and publicly performative whereas skateboarding is an art form based on style and largely on spontaneity. No one who financially supported Penny specifically missed out on anything because, thankfully, there is no metric of how much one should skate or film. Plus, Penny filmed a lot, especially considering the circumstances, it’s just spread out all over the place.
Also, just generally, less is more, in my opinion.
There is a metric- video parts. We hear people on here all the time saying someone’s career doesn’t count because they rarely put out parts- Luan Olivera or Rayssa Leal for instance. Or how it’s not ok that Beatrice Domond got a board without putting out a full part. Everyone is giving Penny a pass because he was a generational talent, or because it would be really sick to be so good that you don’t have to bother with hall the bullshit that lesser pros do. That’s fine. But I don’t know why I should try to convince myself that he deserves my money or that it’s really awesome that we didn’t see a ton of footage from him. That’s ridiculous. No one here actually prefers that he never put out a great part.
Penny probably has more footage than Luan, Rayssa and Beatrice combined. Maybe he didn't put together a big career-defining part, but I'd MUCH rather have the footy we have of him doing what he loves than some manufactured part.
You gotta take the L when you start comparing Penny to three skaters who most people will likely forget in ten years. Talk about not making sense.
Rayssa is going to be forgotten in ten years? She’s the most talented female street skater alive and she’s fifteen. She’ll still be famous ten years from now and remembered much longer than that. You guys are being absurd. You’re now trying to tell me that intentionally filming something makes it “manufactured “. I guess you don’t like 99% of skate vids then?
You know what? Totally fair point on Rayssa. I'll take the L on that one.
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No, he didn’t have one unless you count Menikmati. Honestly I respect the man but his refusal to put together a real part always came off as kinda lame and disrespectful. If Guy could put in the work for Mouse, Penny could have put out at least one good part. Not cool collecting big checks to barely show up.
He made every company he rode for a boatload of money. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that he made Flip and eS MORE money because of how illusive he was/is.
You’re a fan but you don’t want to support him? No shade but I don’t get it
This is a bit of a stretch. It's not that he didn't care about filming. He's just someone that skated regardless of whether there was a camera or chance of getting clips involved.
I’ll try to explain it differently. Imagine you’re a Lakers fan and you buy season tickets because you live Lebron. You attend every game. Lebron shows up every eighth or ninth game and plays amazingly. Not because he’s injured or can’t play. In fact every time you show up to a game you hear he’d actually been in the arena earlier playing, and doing the most amazing shit, sorry you missed it. Lebron loves basketball so much, but he plays whenever he feels like it, not when fans expect. Would you feel like buying tickets was a good idea?
This is a poor analogy because basketball is both a sport based on statistics/winning and publicly performative whereas skateboarding is an art form based on style and largely on spontaneity. No one who financially supported Penny specifically missed out on anything because, thankfully, there is no metric of how much one should skate or film. Plus, Penny filmed a lot, especially considering the circumstances, it’s just spread out all over the place.
Also, just generally, less is more, in my opinion.
There is a metric- video parts. We hear people on here all the time saying someone’s career doesn’t count because they rarely put out parts- Luan Olivera or Rayssa Leal for instance. Or how it’s not ok that Beatrice Domond got a board without putting out a full part. Everyone is giving Penny a pass because he was a generational talent, or because it would be really sick to be so good that you don’t have to bother with hall the bullshit that lesser pros do. That’s fine. But I don’t know why I should try to convince myself that he deserves my money or that it’s really awesome that we didn’t see a ton of footage from him. That’s ridiculous. No one here actually prefers that he never put out a great part.
Penny probably has more footage than Luan, Rayssa and Beatrice combined. Maybe he didn't put together a big career-defining part, but I'd MUCH rather have the footy we have of him doing what he loves than some manufactured part.
You gotta take the L when you start comparing Penny to three skaters who most people will likely forget in ten years. Talk about not making sense.
Rayssa is going to be forgotten in ten years? She’s the most talented female street skater alive and she’s fifteen. She’ll still be famous ten years from now and remembered much longer than that. You guys are being absurd. You’re now trying to tell me that intentionally filming something makes it “manufactured “. I guess you don’t like 99% of skate vids then?
You know what? Totally fair point on Rayssa. I'll take the L on that one.
Honestly I think it’s time I let this whole argument drop. There are probably better ways to express my disappointment Penny never put out a fully realized video part.
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Apologies if it's ABP but I always liked this one from UK clothing company Dope Clothing's first video 'Time for Tea'.
Mainly filmed by Justin 'pastey' Ashby, Brighton local and pro for Iron Cross skateboards in the 80s.
He's a Flip connected guy and was often with Tom in CPH/UK
https://youtu.be/nlt6rFKFFUQ
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Apologies if it's ABP but I always liked this one from UK clothing company Dope Clothing's first video 'Time for Tea'.
Mainly filmed by Justin 'pastey' Ashby, Brighton local and pro for Iron Cross skateboards in the 80s.
He's a Flip connected guy and was often with Tom in CPH/UK
https://youtu.be/nlt6rFKFFUQ
Always loved how he maintains the "Penny arm" even when drinking a beer!
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Apologies if it's ABP but I always liked this one from UK clothing company Dope Clothing's first video 'Time for Tea'.
Mainly filmed by Justin 'pastey' Ashby, Brighton local and pro for Iron Cross skateboards in the 80s.
He's a Flip connected guy and was often with Tom in CPH/UK
https://youtu.be/nlt6rFKFFUQ
Cannot describe how fucked the straight nollieflip up and over the rail is. Did it like it was an ollie up a curb or something
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Just going to leave this one here. Just incase you haven't seen it.
https://youtu.be/THyo84BI_mw
Last trick Tom Penny is other worldly.
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Just going to leave this one here. Just incase you haven't seen it.
https://youtu.be/THyo84BI_mw
Last trick Tom Penny is other worldly.
somehow I've never seen this. Last trick is absolutely mindboggling
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Tbh I think Penny's biggest problem was he got injured around 2001 when he jumped on those S.Dali rocks, if he wasn't injured I bet his Flip part was going to be one of the best and most epic parts ever.
He was very productive in thd mid-90s and you can see footage of why we still love him today.
I heard this too. Iirc he jumped after an all night bender on those rocks. Magical place btw. Fits Dali equally well as Penny.
His style starting in the Sorry era was very different than in his mid 90's golden era. He still did some cool stuff but the magic was gone. I think something (drugs, alcohol or that jump) wrecked something in his body that changed his style.
For instance if you see Daewon skate now (who's even older) you won't see that much difference compared to 90's Daewon. Same for Reynolds, Koston, Creager - but not Penny.
I literally feel blessed to see him skate irl when he was at his best.
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This is it:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck_MnOhJT-U/?hl=en
I still wear that combo (khakis and dark green polo) to this day. Work, skating or some social event; works everytime.
Also, that footage one can never watch too often.
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No, he didn’t have one unless you count Menikmati. Honestly I respect the man but his refusal to put together a real part always came off as kinda lame and disrespectful. If Guy could put in the work for Mouse, Penny could have put out at least one good part. Not cool collecting big checks to barely show up.
He made every company he rode for a boatload of money. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that he made Flip and eS MORE money because of how illusive he was/is.
You’re a fan but you don’t want to support him? No shade but I don’t get it
This is a bit of a stretch. It's not that he didn't care about filming. He's just someone that skated regardless of whether there was a camera or chance of getting clips involved.
I’ll try to explain it differently. Imagine you’re a Lakers fan and you buy season tickets because you live Lebron. You attend every game. Lebron shows up every eighth or ninth game and plays amazingly. Not because he’s injured or can’t play. In fact every time you show up to a game you hear he’d actually been in the arena earlier playing, and doing the most amazing shit, sorry you missed it. Lebron loves basketball so much, but he plays whenever he feels like it, not when fans expect. Would you feel like buying tickets was a good idea?
This is a poor analogy because basketball is both a sport based on statistics/winning and publicly performative whereas skateboarding is an art form based on style and largely on spontaneity. No one who financially supported Penny specifically missed out on anything because, thankfully, there is no metric of how much one should skate or film. Plus, Penny filmed a lot, especially considering the circumstances, it’s just spread out all over the place.
Also, just generally, less is more, in my opinion.
There is a metric- video parts. We hear people on here all the time saying someone’s career doesn’t count because they rarely put out parts- Luan Olivera or Rayssa Leal for instance. Or how it’s not ok that Beatrice Domond got a board without putting out a full part. Everyone is giving Penny a pass because he was a generational talent, or because it would be really sick to be so good that you don’t have to bother with hall the bullshit that lesser pros do. That’s fine. But I don’t know why I should try to convince myself that he deserves my money or that it’s really awesome that we didn’t see a ton of footage from him. That’s ridiculous. No one here actually prefers that he never put out a great part.
This is one of the wackest takes I think I've ever read on Slap. Can't believe you just compared Penny to these three
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No, he didn’t have one unless you count Menikmati. Honestly I respect the man but his refusal to put together a real part always came off as kinda lame and disrespectful. If Guy could put in the work for Mouse, Penny could have put out at least one good part. Not cool collecting big checks to barely show up.
He made every company he rode for a boatload of money. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that he made Flip and eS MORE money because of how illusive he was/is.
You’re a fan but you don’t want to support him? No shade but I don’t get it
This is a bit of a stretch. It's not that he didn't care about filming. He's just someone that skated regardless of whether there was a camera or chance of getting clips involved.
I’ll try to explain it differently. Imagine you’re a Lakers fan and you buy season tickets because you live Lebron. You attend every game. Lebron shows up every eighth or ninth game and plays amazingly. Not because he’s injured or can’t play. In fact every time you show up to a game you hear he’d actually been in the arena earlier playing, and doing the most amazing shit, sorry you missed it. Lebron loves basketball so much, but he plays whenever he feels like it, not when fans expect. Would you feel like buying tickets was a good idea?
This is a poor analogy because basketball is both a sport based on statistics/winning and publicly performative whereas skateboarding is an art form based on style and largely on spontaneity. No one who financially supported Penny specifically missed out on anything because, thankfully, there is no metric of how much one should skate or film. Plus, Penny filmed a lot, especially considering the circumstances, it’s just spread out all over the place.
Also, just generally, less is more, in my opinion.
There is a metric- video parts. We hear people on here all the time saying someone’s career doesn’t count because they rarely put out parts- Luan Olivera or Rayssa Leal for instance. Or how it’s not ok that Beatrice Domond got a board without putting out a full part. Everyone is giving Penny a pass because he was a generational talent, or because it would be really sick to be so good that you don’t have to bother with hall the bullshit that lesser pros do. That’s fine. But I don’t know why I should try to convince myself that he deserves my money or that it’s really awesome that we didn’t see a ton of footage from him. That’s ridiculous. No one here actually prefers that he never put out a great part.
This is one of the wackest takes I think I've ever read on Slap. Can't believe you just compared Penny to these three
@Satanicpanic’s takes are so bad that I bought a Penny mushroom deck in response out of spite, and I can’t stand post Really Sorry Flip.
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didn't Reynolds make his own a Penny compilation videotape that he would watch all the time? maybe that's the edit we need to see. that or an edit by MemoryScreen.
I think that might have been P-Rod. I recall him saying something about that when he was telling a Penny story on video about their time together on éS. That's not to say Reynolds didn't do it too but this is the one I remember hearing about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaBKpn3sFp8
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If you think Tom Penny needs a magnum opus part, you don’t understand what makes Tom Penny Tom Penny.
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No, he didn’t have one unless you count Menikmati. Honestly I respect the man but his refusal to put together a real part always came off as kinda lame and disrespectful. If Guy could put in the work for Mouse, Penny could have put out at least one good part. Not cool collecting big checks to barely show up.
He made every company he rode for a boatload of money. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that he made Flip and eS MORE money because of how illusive he was/is.
You’re a fan but you don’t want to support him? No shade but I don’t get it
This is a bit of a stretch. It's not that he didn't care about filming. He's just someone that skated regardless of whether there was a camera or chance of getting clips involved.
I’ll try to explain it differently. Imagine you’re a Lakers fan and you buy season tickets because you live Lebron. You attend every game. Lebron shows up every eighth or ninth game and plays amazingly. Not because he’s injured or can’t play. In fact every time you show up to a game you hear he’d actually been in the arena earlier playing, and doing the most amazing shit, sorry you missed it. Lebron loves basketball so much, but he plays whenever he feels like it, not when fans expect. Would you feel like buying tickets was a good idea?
The reason this is a poor analogy is because you're not buying front row tix to SLS to watch Penny, you're buying (or not buying, in your case) his gear and the tools he uses to skateboard so well -- the products he endorses. A more apt analogy would be to compare it to you refusing to buy LeBron's signature shoes and jerseys, etc....and let's get serious, you're buying all that shit.
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http://youtu.be/PXM8V2pKL0w
This is prime Penny. Still probably the best line of all time. I’m just glad that even as a young dumb kid watching 411 I knew that it didn’t get better than this.
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http://youtu.be/PXM8V2pKL0w
This is prime Penny. Still probably the best line of all time. I’m just glad that even as a young dumb kid watching 411 I knew that it didn’t get better than this.
This line is soooo good!!!
A lot of people say Gino has the best style of all time, I really like him and his style is really great, but I don't really know if he has better style than the style Penny had in this line/era.
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This is prime Penny. Still probably the best line of all time. I’m just glad that even as a young dumb kid watching 411 I knew that it didn’t get better than this.
This line is soooo good!!!
A lot of people say Gino has the best style of all time, I really like him and his style is really great, but I don't really know if he has better style than the style Penny had in this line/era.
Pretty sure this was also the first backside tailslide I saw on a handrail, for sure in a line.
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Am I wrong or did I read here a long time ago that when he was shutting down the chain to bank he Switch Frontside 360 flipped it but they withheld the footage and were trying to market Geoff more than Penny? Or was I having a weird fever dream and that never happened...
Also that contest run I always loved how he pushed up while on the bank, so stylish
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No, he didn’t have one unless you count Menikmati. Honestly I respect the man but his refusal to put together a real part always came off as kinda lame and disrespectful. If Guy could put in the work for Mouse, Penny could have put out at least one good part. Not cool collecting big checks to barely show up.
He made every company he rode for a boatload of money. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that he made Flip and eS MORE money because of how illusive he was/is.
You’re a fan but you don’t want to support him? No shade but I don’t get it
This is a bit of a stretch. It's not that he didn't care about filming. He's just someone that skated regardless of whether there was a camera or chance of getting clips involved.
I’ll try to explain it differently. Imagine you’re a Lakers fan and you buy season tickets because you live Lebron. You attend every game. Lebron shows up every eighth or ninth game and plays amazingly. Not because he’s injured or can’t play. In fact every time you show up to a game you hear he’d actually been in the arena earlier playing, and doing the most amazing shit, sorry you missed it. Lebron loves basketball so much, but he plays whenever he feels like it, not when fans expect. Would you feel like buying tickets was a good idea?
The reason this is a poor analogy is because you're not buying front row tix to SLS to watch Penny, you're buying (or not buying, in your case) his gear and the tools he uses to skateboard so well -- the products he endorses. A more apt analogy would be to compare it to you refusing to buy LeBron's signature shoes and jerseys, etc....and let's get serious, you're buying all that shit.
Come on man this is lame nitpicking , you can understand the analogy. We buy skaters’ stuff because we watch their videos and decide we like how they skate. No one intentionally buys product from someone they’ve never seen skate. So skaters have to perform or people generally don’t buy their shit. But Penny had convinced nearly everyone it’s a good thing that he didn’t put out much during his peak. I disagreed and people are throwing a hissy fit.
And sure, Beatrice and Luan aren’t perfect comparisons but Rayssa is every bit as big of a deal as Penny.
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Am I wrong or did I read here a long time ago that when he was shutting down the chain to bank he Switch Frontside 360 flipped it but they withheld the footage and were trying to market Geoff more than Penny? Or was I having a weird fever dream and that never happened...
Also that contest run I always loved how he pushed up while on the bank, so stylish
I heard that rumor too, that he did even more tricks that session, but I don't think it's very likely. It was a shared part with Rowley and Penny had the "ender."
Also at that time marketing wasn't as professional as it is know, this was even way before the X-Games.
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And guys, you don’t need to get so butthurt about my 90s consumer habits that you run out and buy stuff. I’m just some guy on the internet, my opinion doesn’t matter. I’m a Penny fan and I’ve said multiple times he’s the best skater I’ve ever seen IRL.
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I don't think anyone really cares as much as you'd like to believe we do. Tbh, Idek what you're going on about.
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High 5 is his magnus opum, perfect introduction to American spots, every trick is a classic clip and peak style. Nobody else came close in 95.
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https://youtu.be/1giEZJr1GXo
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Am I wrong or did I read here a long time ago that when he was shutting down the chain to bank he Switch Frontside 360 flipped it but they withheld the footage and were trying to market Geoff more than Penny? Or was I having a weird fever dream and that never happened...
Also that contest run I always loved how he pushed up while on the bank, so stylish
I heard that rumor too, that he did even more tricks that session, but I don't think it's very likely. It was a shared part with Rowley and Penny had the "ender."
Also at that time marketing wasn't as professional as it is know, this was even way before the X-Games.
It was debunked and I think that poster stopped posting after that a la VK420
My vote goes to Uno. High 5 was fucked up tricks ahead of its time, Menikmati doesn’t count, TSA was good but not his best, Sorry trilogy was after his peak. Uno was just special in the fact that something like that has never been done, will never be done, was on a whim, and every single trick was executed perfectly all the while during his peak style. Shit was bonkers watching that for the first time.
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Thanks for making me revisit all that stuff. Every time I watch a new clip I change my mind about what I think his magnum opus is. This is definitely some of the most beautiful skating ever caught on camera, especially with the song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub2x_6cMLJs
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some more peak penny
Absorb the sheer dopeness of The Oxford Don himself, Sir Tom Penny, in this 16mm footage filmed for a 411 éS Footwear commercial in the mid-90’s…
https://youtu.be/u3aKHd1QQ7k
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some more peak penny
Absorb the sheer dopeness of The Oxford Don himself, Sir Tom Penny, in this 16mm footage filmed for a 411 éS Footwear commercial in the mid-90’s…
https://youtu.be/u3aKHd1QQ7k
It's so typical Tom Penny that he almost lands the frontside 360 flip twice and doesn't bother again.
I also remember this line in a parking garage (not the one with the launch ramp) where he casually boardslides the hood of a random car, but can't find it right now.
Btw here is that picture Wig Worland took of his blind side nollie flip over the Meanwhile 2 gap in London but that was never filmed, just like his only 540 on vert in Copenhagen or Malmo after drinking a couple of bottles of wine. All those stories add more to his legacy than any part ever could imho.
(https://coresites-cdn-adm.imgix.net/sidewalk/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Fri25thDec-Tom-Issue2-1995.jpg?fit=crop&w=1200&h=1200)
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Showing my age here, but for me it was his TSA Life in the Fast Lane part.
Probably not the best part he ever released, but for it's time and place in my life it was massively influential,
blew my fucking mind.
Wasn't there for it, but that's my fav part of his as well.
Double same
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lets put it this way, if he decided to have one we couldnt afford it
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Sorry guys, my phone was bugging last night. Didn’t mean to repeatedly post
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His magnum opus was created by skaters themselves and not by the companies. It's 11 minutes of prime Penny collected from his diffuse coverage. The Rolling Stones and Moby are playing in the background.
Penny is for the people. He just roams around the world blowing minds and the industry makes bank off the table scraps he leaves behind.
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G-d bless Tom Penny
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/CmmKPFqLwtR/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CcefIfCNI-o/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/CmmKPFqLwtR/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CcefIfCNI-o/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
First clip us crazy but I've seen it before. 2nd clip wow he really was on another planet
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I know this. I had quit skating for a long time and my buddy moved back from the air force and was like you should skate again. He gave me old 411's and I remember basically knowing Penny was better than everyone and it was just from little ads. One with 2 Little kickers over a chair,the industry line and him fronside flipping a huge rail.I was like this dude is different. I had never seen flip tricks like that over rails. That's prime penny to me..i dont think sorry era and beyond is close really.
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BTW, I heard there's a rumor that Penny was on meth during the mid 90's in California.
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No, he's overrated.
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Just going to leave this one here. Just incase you haven't seen it.
https://youtu.be/THyo84BI_mw
Still mad I didn't go to that demo in 95ish.
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No, he's overrated.
(https://i.ibb.co/JrJ6R5Q/Penny.jpg)
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It’s wrong to try to view 90’s Tom Penny through a 2020’s lens. Part of his majesty is the enigmatic allure.
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nope he was doing switch tricks over 10 stair rails and nollie flip grinds on real ledges.....in 95!!!!
this would be legit now. penny was easily a decade ahead of the rest. also has the best frontside flip in skateboard history.
And everything he did switch looked nearly identical to natural stance.
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It’s wrong to try to view 90’s Tom Penny through a 2020’s lens
nope he was doing switch tricks over 10 stair rails and nollie flip grinds on real ledges.....in 95!!!!
this would be legit now. penny was easily a decade ahead of the rest. also has the best frontside flip in skateboard history.
This
Penny has the best fs flips ever followed by JB. Reynolds has some good ones but most of them looks slow and just finish turn nearly the ground.
My top 3 fs flips
Penny
JB
Austin Gillette.
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no magnum opus coming from penny anytime soon, but I heard he's making a pant company called Penny
( not a joke )
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I have his moon deck -- the Lumiere-type one that Wes Kremer had in his skatehoarders episode -- and really wish I could get it autographed.
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Tom Penny definitely had amazing parts, for starters:
- UNO
- Etnies Hi 5
- TSA life in the fast lane
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Those were three parts that came out in the same year, both TSA and Etnies being proper full parts and all three mind blowing.
Besides that, Tom transcended "parts" per se, which is more of a post y2k construct to begin with, because he had footage in almost every new video that was a video magazine (411) or latest compilation of tours, street and park clips, demos and contests (thrasher) and every time he stole the show. For example: in 411 best of 2 he had both his radlands 95 footage and the flip industry section properly stealing the show...he always stole the show. Those two sections were so ahead of their time in style and fluidity that they were then and are now truly timeless. Plus, his line in skate and destroy. His parts by Danny Minnick were also amazing: Genie of the Lamp, Skate Nation, and especially Collage.
Sure there were amazing parts back then, Pat Duffy in Questionable, Gonz in Video Days, Jamie Thomas in Welcome to Hell...but it was always more about the video itself...the amazing video! Nowadays is more part oriented largely due to the format (computer), but back then the whole video itself was a treat, like Mouse, or a slightly more obscure entry like 411 Europe 1995...where Penny truly shined. His guest parts in Welcome to Hell and XYZ were top notch.
At the end of the day, it's not one singular entry from Tom Penny that stands out as his Magnum Opus, but the corpus of his work from 1995-1997.
He changed the game, helped to bring back the resurgence of style after the triple flip underflip big pants small wheel era, the importance of pop, flick and flow...and most of all he left you wanting more...so all the clips of the legend still riding are truly an amazing encore to an incredible career.
Lastly, the lasting impression he left on those who witnessed his skating are his legacy. He was more impactful. If you look at old pictures of him the crowd is always in awe, and generally more people are paying attention to him than normally are paying attention to a skater in a picture and you can see on their faces the amazement.
From Tom's era it wasn't just video parts like in the Yeah Right days, but a culmination of contests, demos, random sessions, pictures, write ups, and footage in general. Considering those criterions, he had an especially prolific career in the mid 90's.
BTW, he now officially skates for ACE Trucks.
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Etnies high five. San Dieguito total destruction and best switch frontside flip ender ever.