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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: DeanMaple on April 23, 2026, 10:14:20 AM
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Should we start talking about this?
Whos staying? Whos getting the boot?
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I think Ethan Fowler and Trapasso will be the first to get the boot.
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I think Ethan Fowler and Trapasso will be the first to get the boot.
i thought it would be kenny anderson
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I think Ethan Fowler and Trapasso will be the first to get the boot.
Pops is fuming right now...
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Cons of Pros?
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is this a sign of skateboarding healing?
Can't wait for the nike air max 90 sb.
The air max 90 is connected to skateboarding in an authentic way. Running is just like skateboarding if you think about it
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First brand/team to cool guy themselves into bankruptcy?
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Sorry Shai Gilgeous we gotta let you go
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Heard there’s only a handful of guys getting an opportunity to re-sign their contracts
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Heard there’s only a handful of guys getting an opportunity to re-sign their contracts
I'd imagine Louie at least. The guy is such a good skater and deserves to be on even if they take away his shoe. Get rid of the FA guys and Baca. Hopefully Zered is still on but he hard has any sponsors going on.
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Sorry Shai Gilgeous we gotta let you go
basketball healing
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Sorry Shai Gilgeous we gotta let you go
Cons has never treated the Canadians right
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I think Ethan Fowler and Trapasso will be the first to get the boot.
The Trapasso pro model skated so good
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is this a sign of skateboarding healing?
Can't wait for the nike air max 90 sb.
The air max 90 is connected to skateboarding in an authentic way. Running is just like skateboarding if you think about it
Damn never thought about that so true. So is golf too bro.
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They already made an AM90 golf... so AM90SB only makes logical sense... Billy Rohan always wearing 90s same with Stevie...
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Sorry Pappalardo but the times are tough
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Confirmation of Cons' official demise?
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Skaters accepting the big corps into skateboarding was kinda like when hedge funds buy a trusted company like Boeing or Sears then run it into the ground for profit.
It's good for a handful of people to make big short-term gains.
But overall caused more harm than good and is destructive in the long term.
But hey, this is American-style capitalism. I got mine, so fuck you.
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Skaters accepting the big corps into skateboarding was kinda like when hedge funds buy a trusted company like Boeing or Sears then run it into the ground for profit.
It's good for a handful of people to make big short-term gains.
But overall caused more harm than good and is destructive in the long term.
But hey, this is American-style capitalism. I got mine, so fuck you.
Hard disagree , the sheer scale of the amount of people Nike/adidas/cons/nb have hooked up in the last 15 years is way more than any of the core 2000s teams could have with their curated image based teams of like 10 . It’s been a net good for skating since without them board companies would’ve floundered even harder and been able to pay no one.
Converse is just struggling in general where as every one else has made cuts in the last 5 years but can still afford 50 person teams. Converse put too much into just the chuck. Shit even vans has like 4-5 ever popular styles to keep the cash coming but converse just has the chuck. I’ve been on here for years saying converse needs to at least attempt new styles but here we are.
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Skaters accepting the big corps into skateboarding was kinda like when hedge funds buy a trusted company like Boeing or Sears then run it into the ground for profit.
It's good for a handful of people to make big short-term gains.
But overall caused more harm than good and is destructive in the long term.
But hey, this is American-style capitalism. I got mine, so fuck you.
Hard disagree , the sheer scale of the amount of people Nike/adidas/cons/nb have hooked up in the last 15 years is way more than any of the core 2000s teams could have with their curated image based teams of like 10 . It’s been a net good for skating since without them board companies would’ve floundered even harder and been able to pay no one.
Converse is just struggling in general where as every one else has made cuts in the last 5 years but can still afford 50 person teams. Converse put too much into just the chuck. Shit even vans has like 4-5 ever popular styles to keep the cash coming but converse just has the chuck. I’ve been on here for years saying converse needs to at least attempt new styles but here we are.
We don't actually need all this shit though. theres probably enough shoes boards clothes etc. already produced to last the next 10 generations lol. as long as people keep buying it, people are gonna keep makin it... also, if no one is buyin it, then no one gonna bother to keep making it. Im pretty sure theres always gonna be people who want skateboards.
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Skaters accepting the big corps into skateboarding was kinda like when hedge funds buy a trusted company like Boeing or Sears then run it into the ground for profit.
It's good for a handful of people to make big short-term gains.
But overall caused more harm than good and is destructive in the long term.
But hey, this is American-style capitalism. I got mine, so fuck you.
You say this when all of the riders on the brand in your signature are on a big shoe brand. Most of them made a living from those checks.
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Skaters accepting the big corps into skateboarding was kinda like when hedge funds buy a trusted company like Boeing or Sears then run it into the ground for profit.
It's good for a handful of people to make big short-term gains.
But overall caused more harm than good and is destructive in the long term.
But hey, this is American-style capitalism. I got mine, so fuck you.
You say this when all of the riders on the brand in your signature are on a big shoe brand. Most of them made a living from those checks.
he says "Fuck Anti Hero" actually lol
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Skaters accepting the big corps into skateboarding was kinda like when hedge funds buy a trusted company like Boeing or Sears then run it into the ground for profit.
It's good for a handful of people to make big short-term gains.
But overall caused more harm than good and is destructive in the long term.
But hey, this is American-style capitalism. I got mine, so fuck you.
Hard disagree , the sheer scale of the amount of people Nike/adidas/cons/nb have hooked up in the last 15 years is way more than any of the core 2000s teams could have with their curated image based teams of like 10 . It’s been a net good for skating since without them board companies would’ve floundered even harder and been able to pay no one.
Converse is just struggling in general where as every one else has made cuts in the last 5 years but can still afford 50 person teams. Converse put too much into just the chuck. Shit even vans has like 4-5 ever popular styles to keep the cash coming but converse just has the chuck. I’ve been on here for years saying converse needs to at least attempt new styles but here we are.
Brands like Vans and Converse for better or for worse have their identity closely associated with a few "classic" shoes. When people think Vans they think Authentic/Era/Old Skool/Sk8Hi. When people think Converse they do pretty much only think Chuck maybe One Star/Fastbreak. On one hand like you said there will at least always be a few styles that people will buy but on the other hand if that style is no longer en vogue then the whole company suffers. They can attempt new styles but I think there is a limit to how much they can really compete with Nike/Adidas/NB/Asics in the marketplace who have a wider variety of styles associated with their brand. I don't think that many people would buy a soccer inspired skate shoe like the Louie 2 over a Samba/Leggerezza or a AS1 over a Dunk/Forum other than it being a slightly lower price point.
Still would buy any of those over some fugly lakai, eS, or emerica (except the KSIII which is not bad).
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is this a sign of skateboarding healing?
Can't wait for the nike air max 90 sb.
The air max 90 is connected to skateboarding in an authentic way. Running is just like skateboarding if you think about it
Run, skate, chill.
They already did the Air Max 95 and they didn’t even involve Stevie!
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This is what happens Larry
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Feels like the team will be
BDK
Mike Anderson
Louie
Alexis
Milton Martinez
then a bunch of folks getting bumped down to flow.
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Skaters accepting the big corps into skateboarding was kinda like when hedge funds buy a trusted company like Boeing or Sears then run it into the ground for profit.
It's good for a handful of people to make big short-term gains.
But overall caused more harm than good and is destructive in the long term.
But hey, this is American-style capitalism. I got mine, so fuck you.
I always just saw it as some rich uncle shit that you cash but you don’t get too comfy…..
Recall Steve Olsen repeatedly re AO: ‘dude….just take the money….we all took the money…..’
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Skaters accepting the big corps into skateboarding was kinda like when hedge funds buy a trusted company like Boeing or Sears then run it into the ground for profit.
It's good for a handful of people to make big short-term gains.
But overall caused more harm than good and is destructive in the long term.
But hey, this is American-style capitalism. I got mine, so fuck you.
I always just saw it as some rich uncle shit that you cash but you don’t get too comfy…..
Recall Steve Olsen repeatedly re AO: ‘dude….just take the money….we all took the money…..’
I believe the direct quote was "they owe"
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Really like Tony Latham hopefully he can find a new home or stay on, dude deserves a check.
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I think Ethan Fowler and Trapasso will be the first to get the boot.
Trapasso I and II were some of my favorite shoes ever. Still search for pairs online.
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is this a sign of skateboarding healing?
Can't wait for the nike air max 90 sb.
The air max 90 is connected to skateboarding in an authentic way. Running is just like skateboarding if you think about it
Run, skate, chill.
They already did the Air Max 95 and they didn’t even involve Stevie!
That's okay - They made up for it by hiring Alchemist for the AF1 SB campaign. I'm glad he was able to explain why the most mainstream trendy sneaker of the last 15 years is all of a sudden deeply rooted in skate culture.
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They for sure have the biggest flow in skateboarding.
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Really like Tony Latham hopefully he can find a new home or stay on, dude deserves a check.
bold of you to assume he was getting a check at all
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Sorry Shai Gilgeous we gotta let you go
Thats one of the best looking debut shoes of all time
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I think Ethan Fowler and Trapasso will be the first to get the boot.
Trapasso I and II were some of my favorite shoes ever. Still search for pairs online.
the tongue was perfect! the one stars are close, but the tongue and collar padding on the Trapassos were so good
https://www.consortium.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/c/o/cons_trapasso_pro_ox_charcoal_white_light_gold_1.jpg
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uhhh could we maybe get a little con(s)text?
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I think Ethan Fowler and Trapasso will be the first to get the boot.
Trapasso I and II were some of my favorite shoes ever. Still search for pairs online.
the tongue was perfect! the one stars are close, but the tongue and collar padding on the Trapassos were so good
https://www.consortium.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/c/o/cons_trapasso_pro_ox_charcoal_white_light_gold_1.jpg
The non skate One Star 95s are so vastly superior
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Skaters accepting the big corps into skateboarding was kinda like when hedge funds buy a trusted company like Boeing or Sears then run it into the ground for profit.
It's good for a handful of people to make big short-term gains.
But overall caused more harm than good and is destructive in the long term.
But hey, this is American-style capitalism. I got mine, so fuck you.
Nailed it.
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Skaters accepting the big corps into skateboarding was kinda like when hedge funds buy a trusted company like Boeing or Sears then run it into the ground for profit.
It's good for a handful of people to make big short-term gains.
But overall caused more harm than good and is destructive in the long term.
But hey, this is American-style capitalism. I got mine, so fuck you.
You say this when all of the riders on the brand in your signature are on a big shoe brand. Most of them made a living from those checks.
he says "Fuck Anti Hero" actually lol
Haha yes, that took me a second to put together. Man is consistent.
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Sorry Shai Gilgeous we gotta let you go
I didnt even think of it but I could see the basketball program getting the axe entirely.
those shoes are booty performance wise, and shai doesn't have the appeal of the superstars of old.
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Skaters accepting the big corps into skateboarding was kinda like when hedge funds buy a trusted company like Boeing or Sears then run it into the ground for profit.
It's good for a handful of people to make big short-term gains.
But overall caused more harm than good and is destructive in the long term.
But hey, this is American-style capitalism. I got mine, so fuck you.
Fuckin eggs. There was always money in the banana stand, I mean, in skateboarding shoes, and it used to be skateboarders gave it to each other. Now we just give it all to the smarmiest CFOs, and they are going to take it all with them when they go.
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Skaters accepting the big corps into skateboarding was kinda like when hedge funds buy a trusted company like Boeing or Sears then run it into the ground for profit.
It's good for a handful of people to make big short-term gains.
But overall caused more harm than good and is destructive in the long term.
But hey, this is American-style capitalism. I got mine, so fuck you.
How many times have we gone over a rumor that someone heard Cons or Nike is kicking off their riders in the past two decades and how often have those rumors actually borne out?
Is 20+ years short term gains? The analogy doesn’t even make sense because those companies like Sears or Toys R Us got fucked over by private equity because they get saddled with the debt acquired to purchase them, which doesn’t translate to anything that’s happening in skateboarding. What’s converse supposed to do when business is struggling? Go into debt so that they never go backwards in the amount of skateboarders they sponsor/flow?
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I’m not sure, but this MAY be what OP was hinting at. https://www.dailymail.com/yourmoney/article-15760475/nike-axes-jobs-layoffs.html
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I’m not sure, but this MAY be what OP was hinting at. https://www.dailymail.com/yourmoney/article-15760475/nike-axes-jobs-layoffs.html
Who in Nike’s tech department skates for cons?
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2 4 pages in and no one is questioning the validity of this claim?
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I’m not sure, but this MAY be what OP was hinting at. https://www.dailymail.com/yourmoney/article-15760475/nike-axes-jobs-layoffs.html
If you read down further it seemed to say it would affect “global operations” I don’t know. I just assumed maybe this is what they were referring to.
Who in Nike’s tech department skates for cons?
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Converse put too much into just the chuck. Shit even vans has like 4-5 ever popular styles to keep the cash coming but converse just has the chuck. I’ve been on here for years saying converse needs to at least attempt new styles but here we are.
For real
Chucks
Star players
One stars
Pro leathers
Fastbreaks
Weapons
Slip on?
Jack purcells
They don't have as many mega classics as some other brands, but they have more than say, adidas, Asics, NB...
Adidas has what, superstars? Superskates? Asics has Japan pros and NB has 480s
Still can't believe the fastbreaks and superstar advs don't have padded tongues
If cons had high and low versions of the Pro Leather in classic colorways, I know people would fuck with it. Idk why they haven't been doing pro leathers. Superstar/pro models been taking market share and the converse look better imo and the tongue on ADVs is dumb.
Idk
If I were them I would focus on heritage basketball styles that people actually fuck with
Like if they just had pro leathers and chucks both in high and low, one stars and slip-ons, weapon and fastbreak highs and lows.. cuck Taylors are a very particular feeling shoe and the fastbreaks don't last long and the tongue pinches people's instep, and there isn't much else to choose from currently if you don't like those
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Really like Tony Latham hopefully he can find a new home or stay on, dude deserves a check.
True, Sadly
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If I were them I would focus
.. cuck Taylors
Goddamnit
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I’m not sure, but this MAY be what OP was hinting at. https://www.dailymail.com/yourmoney/article-15760475/nike-axes-jobs-layoffs.html
Who in Nike’s tech department skates for cons?
That article briefly states in efforts to overhaul and increase profits “part of its Converse footwear operations relocated.” Whatever that means. There’s other articles on Authentic Brands trying to buy it from Nike. Apparently Nike stock is at its lowest in over a decade and Converse sales are at a 15 year low. Didn’t someone here mention that Cons got rid of their whole skate division sales and reps?
https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2026/04/01/report-authentic-brands-eyes-potential-acquisition-in-converse/
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Society has evolved past the need for skate shoes. We will all go back to Jordan 1s, Chucks, Authentics, Air Max’s, and Gazelles.
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Society has evolved past the need for skate shoes. We will all go back to Jordan 1s, Chucks, Authentics, Air Max’s, and Gazelles.
Get out my closet bro. I feel called out.
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How the fuck cons is doing bad financially? Here in nordic countries all white chucks are THE teen girl shoes
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one time James at Labor gave me a pair of Sean Pablo's navy one stars. I saw Sean on the street while I was wearing them and said, "I'm wearing your shoes." He said I wore them well. I've never paid for a pair of Cons, but had a pair of black and white one stars as well as a pair of neon yellow high tops that I wore on of my heaviest tricks through Opening Ceremony flow.
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There’s pros of cons
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Nike has been trying to sell Cons for a while now, and currently ABG is in talks to buy Converse
They already own Volcom, Element, DC, Rvca, and Airwalk skate wise
https://corporate.authentic.com/brand-portfolio (https://corporate.authentic.com/brand-portfolio)
Just another day for big biz
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There’s pros of cons
fuck you just beat me to it
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Nike has been trying to sell Cons for a while now, and currently ABG is in talks to buy Converse
They already own Volcom, Element, DC, Rvca, and Airwalk skate wise
https://corporate.authentic.com/brand-portfolio (https://corporate.authentic.com/brand-portfolio)
Just another day for big biz
If I were the CEO of Levi’s Strauss I would try to buy Converse. That would be an excellent way for Levi’s to ditch their shitty shoes and and harken back to their roots.
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fuck you just beat me to it
What are the pros and cons on this😑
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fuck you just beat me to it
What are the pros and cons on this😑
but do any of them involve hitchhiking perhaps?
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one time James at Labor gave me a pair of Sean Pablo's navy one stars. I saw Sean on the street while I was wearing them and said, "I'm wearing your shoes." He said I wore them well.
did that happen for real? amazing
props. pretty funny from both of you 8)
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When people think Vans they think Authentic/Era/Old Skool/Sk8Hi.
https://youtu.be/JTSk5cbaZso
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That scene in that movie made Vans popular globally. Couldn't ask for better advertising
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Why did they have to go with the Con in Converse instead of Verse?
I’d rather skate around in some verses than having my feet wrapped in a pair of cons.
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I’m not sure, but this MAY be what OP was hinting at. https://www.dailymail.com/yourmoney/article-15760475/nike-axes-jobs-layoffs.html
Caused by woke push? What kinda newspaper is this?
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Why did they have to go with the Con in Converse instead of Verse?
I’d rather skate around in some verses than having my feet wrapped in a pair of cons.
No
Im not wearing anything that says "verse". lmao.
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I’m not sure, but this MAY be what OP was hinting at. https://www.dailymail.com/yourmoney/article-15760475/nike-axes-jobs-layoffs.html
The daily Mail is basically the fox news of rags.
Caused by woke push? What kinda newspaper is this?
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Heard there’s only a handful of guys getting an opportunity to re-sign their contracts
I'd imagine Louie at least. The guy is such a good skater and deserves to be on even if they take away his shoe. Get rid of the FA guys and Baca. Hopefully Zered is still on but he hard has any sponsors going on.
Baca? Baca has been loyal since day one, and puts out nothing but bangers, if anything the dude deserves a shoe
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suggesting cons should kick of baca is so insane, it should be literally everyone else before baca
remember the og canvas ctas pros with the lunarlon insole? those were the best
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suggesting cons should kick of baca is so insane, it should be literally everyone else before baca
remember the og canvas ctas pros with the lunarlon insole? those were the best
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suggesting cons should kick of baca is so insane, it should be literally everyone else before baca
remember the og canvas ctas pros with the lunarlon insole? those were the best
Those shoes were the absolute greatest. I hoarded about a dozen pairs of the insoles and have been putting them in the CTAS Pros they still make which objectively simply are not as good but it's all I got at the moment.
Speaking of which, for when Cons eventually bites the dust, what are my options for comparable hightop vulc shoes, preferably non-leather? Anyone?
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suggesting cons should kick of baca is so insane, it should be literally everyone else before baca
remember the og canvas ctas pros with the lunarlon insole? those were the best
Those shoes were the absolute greatest. I hoarded about a dozen pairs of the insoles and have been putting them in the CTAS Pros they still make which objectively simply are not as good but it's all I got at the moment.
Speaking of which, for when Cons eventually bites the dust, what are my options for comparable hightop vulc shoes, preferably non-leather? Anyone?
Grasshopper, 440, Old Skool
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Selt out to big corps was not an economic problem, now we see skaters with big checks compared to core brand era.
Nike team at one point had like 40 skaters, its Adio, Es, Lakai and Fallen teams all combined. But Dvs, DC, Circa and Osiris used to like 20 skaters on the team.
Big corp shoes killed skate brand clothes also, Ezekiel, Elwood, 4 star, Krew, LRG etc. Cause big corp riders cant dress another brand shirts and other clothes.
Carhart is cooler than 4 star now, but what they has to do with skateboarding history?
Nothing remains strong and historic without strong cultural structures and rituals.
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suggesting cons should kick of baca is so insane, it should be literally everyone else before baca
remember the og canvas ctas pros with the lunarlon insole? those were the best
Those shoes were the absolute greatest. I hoarded about a dozen pairs of the insoles and have been putting them in the CTAS Pros they still make which objectively simply are not as good but it's all I got at the moment.
Speaking of which, for when Cons eventually bites the dust, what are my options for comparable hightop vulc shoes, preferably non-leather? Anyone?
Grasshopper, 440, Old Skool
Grasshopper and 440 are both cupsole actually, although 440 is a good in between. The Vans Crockett Hi also falls in that in between cup/vulc area.
Blazer Mids, Last Resort VM001 or VM003, Vans SK8-Hi or Authentic Mid/Hi are all in the ballpark of the Chuck Mid/Hi. NB Franky Villani shoe is NB's mid/high top vulc option. Emerica used to have a couple, the Winkowski and I think there's a Spanky Hi. LRAB and Vans are probably your best bet if you want to stay as true as possible to the Chuck. Blazer Mids are are probably the best shoe of them all but they're not quite as slim of a profile as the Chuck.
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Speaking of which, for when Cons eventually bites the dust, what are my options for comparable hightop vulc shoes, preferably non-leather? Anyone?
(https://www.lastresortab.com/cdn/shop/files/Last-Resort-AB-VM003-Hi-Canvas-Black-White-02_b46b2e6e-2152-4396-b1e7-bc80b442ced1.jpg?v=1741959818&width=1200)
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Selt out to big corps was not an economic problem, now we see skaters with big checks compared to core brand era.
Not true... back then everyone got paid, now only a handful of dudes are getting paid.
Nike team at one point had like 40 skaters, its Adio, Es, Lakai and Fallen teams all combined. But Dvs, DC, Circa and Osiris used to like 20 skaters on the team.
Nike never had 40 AMs and Pros at once. Or those other companies... we aren't including flow riders...
Big corp shoes killed skate brand clothes also, Ezekiel, Elwood, 4 star, Krew, LRG etc. Cause big corp riders cant dress another brand shirts and other clothes.
No they didn't... and lot of those brands didnt make it because skaters stopped wearing skate brand clothes to wear non-skate clothes.
Carhart is cooler than 4 star now, but what they has to do with skateboarding history?
No... no one was buying 4 star towards the end because it became wack... same thing with Dickies... we been wearing that before the skate program. They saw a business opportunity and made a Dickies skate line...
Nothing remains strong and historic without strong cultural structures and rituals.
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Selt out to big corps was not an economic problem, now we see skaters with big checks compared to core brand era.
Not true... back then everyone got paid, now only a handful of dudes are getting paid.
Nike team at one point had like 40 skaters, its Adio, Es, Lakai and Fallen teams all combined. But Dvs, DC, Circa and Osiris used to like 20 skaters on the team.
Nike never had 40 AMs and Pros at once. Or those other companies... we aren't including flow riders...
Big corp shoes killed skate brand clothes also, Ezekiel, Elwood, 4 star, Krew, LRG etc. Cause big corp riders cant dress another brand shirts and other clothes.
No they didn't... and lot of those brands didnt make it because skaters stopped wearing skate brand clothes to wear non-skate clothes.
Carhart is cooler than 4 star now, but what they has to do with skateboarding history?
No... no one was buying 4 star towards the end because it became wack... same thing with Dickies... we been wearing that before the skate program. They saw a business opportunity and made a Dickies skate line...
Nothing remains strong and historic without strong cultural structures and rituals.
4star went under due nike effect when Koston and Mariano leaved crail tap cause nike checks was good enough for dont care about dress money.
P.rod leaves 4star right after sign with Nike.
At one point I counted more than 40 pros on nike site: https://www.nikesb.com/team
Skate wear was more for the kid and skateboarding enthusiasts, but having pros in ads and videos commercials helped brands to sell for other people that liked skate. Now its 2 big brands paying few dudes for only wear they pants.
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Selt out to big corps was not an economic problem, now we see skaters with big checks compared to core brand era.
Nike team at one point had like 40 skaters, its Adio, Es, Lakai and Fallen teams all combined. But Dvs, DC, Circa and Osiris used to like 20 skaters on the team.
Big corp shoes killed skate brand clothes also, Ezekiel, Elwood, 4 star, Krew, LRG etc. Cause big corp riders cant dress another brand shirts and other clothes.
Carhart is cooler than 4 star now, but what they has to do with skateboarding history?
Nothing remains strong and historic without strong cultural structures and rituals.
Don’t remember any of these being particularly good quality
Ezekiel was irrelevant in the late 90s, still exists
Elwood was irrelevant in early 00s, still exists
4star was a skater owned brand until other skaters tried to fuck with their ownership
LRG’s decline was linked to their owners untimely death, still exists
Krew tied to streetwear trend and didn’t change with them, still exists
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Selt out to big corps was not an economic problem, now we see skaters with big checks compared to core brand era.
Nike team at one point had like 40 skaters, its Adio, Es, Lakai and Fallen teams all combined. But Dvs, DC, Circa and Osiris used to like 20 skaters on the team.
Big corp shoes killed skate brand clothes also, Ezekiel, Elwood, 4 star, Krew, LRG etc. Cause big corp riders cant dress another brand shirts and other clothes.
Carhart is cooler than 4 star now, but what they has to do with skateboarding history?
Nothing remains strong and historic without strong cultural structures and rituals.
This part is also just untrue. Tons of Nike/Adidas/etc. riders are on other clothing brands (Supreme, Carhartt WIP, Palace, Huf, etc). Some of the more contest-oriented skaters will have a dual footwear/clothing contract but doesn't seem like that's very common.
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Big corp shoes killed skate brand clothes also, Ezekiel, Elwood, 4 star, Krew, LRG etc. Cause big corp riders cant dress another brand shirts and other clothes.
Those brands don't make sense anyway. Only a small % of skaters have lots of money to buy crap like that, and those brands only cater to actual skateboarders. They were too inside baseball for most pedestrians to care about - maybe not LRG, but that one definitely was not killed by a Nike takeover lol. I think it just got played the fuck out.
Non skaters like shit like DC / Element with the huge logos. That was closer to the core (at least in their minds) where that other stuff was too far off the mark and doesnt broadcast I AM SK8, it was just some jeans and flannels and shit trying to look like Gap. Actual skaters mostly just getting stuff from thrift / department / workwear dont have the money to spend on that shit when you are buying so many boards and shoes, destroying your clothes sliding out.
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I think Ethan Fowler and Trapasso will be the first to get the boot.
Trapasso I and II were some of my favorite shoes ever. Still search for pairs online.
the tongue was perfect! the one stars are close, but the tongue and collar padding on the Trapassos were so good
https://www.consortium.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/c/o/cons_trapasso_pro_ox_charcoal_white_light_gold_1.jpg
I believe that colorway was the consensus #1. I had multiple pairs of those, amazing!
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Selt out to big corps was not an economic problem, now we see skaters with big checks compared to core brand era.
I don't pretend to have good stats, but from what I've seen, most dudes today would be lucky to make a couple gs a month. Early 2000s companies were flush, there were so many shoe companies and most of the money was flowing back into skating.
My guess, Ronnie Bertino made more from his Kastel pro model than Andrew Wilson does on Nike, but just a guess.
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Selt out to big corps was not an economic problem, now we see skaters with big checks compared to core brand era.
I don't pretend to have good stats, but from what I've seen, most dudes today would be lucky to make a couple gs a month. Early 2000s companies were flush, there were so many shoe companies and most of the money was flowing back into skating.
My guess, Ronnie Bertino made more from his Kastel pro model than Andrew Wilson does on Nike, but just a guess.
inflation adjusted maybe, but how long did Kastel even last?
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Selt out to big corps was not an economic problem, now we see skaters with big checks compared to core brand era.
I don't pretend to have good stats, but from what I've seen, most dudes today would be lucky to make a couple gs a month. Early 2000s companies were flush, there were so many shoe companies and most of the money was flowing back into skating.
My guess, Ronnie Bertino made more from his Kastel pro model than Andrew Wilson does on Nike, but just a guess.
My bad...what I wanted to mean: FEW skaters now are making a good money.
I remember reading a Kalis interview that he says pro used to do a lot of mony not only from shoes but from decks promodels too.
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Bummer if true
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Selt out to big corps was not an economic problem, now we see skaters with big checks compared to core brand era.
Nike team at one point had like 40 skaters, its Adio, Es, Lakai and Fallen teams all combined. But Dvs, DC, Circa and Osiris used to like 20 skaters on the team.
Big corp shoes killed skate brand clothes also, Ezekiel, Elwood, 4 star, Krew, LRG etc. Cause big corp riders cant dress another brand shirts and other clothes.
Carhart is cooler than 4 star now, but what they has to do with skateboarding history?
Nothing remains strong and historic without strong cultural structures and rituals.
Ive never heard of anyone lamenting the loss of skate clothing brands from that era. Those all sucked so much tbh good riddance. 4star was good culturally at its peak but its clothes were terrible quality and Krew had its moment during the skinny jean trends. People just realized that there was no point in paying more for clothes that were worse quality than just regular workwear like carhartt or regular dickies. Also everyone got tired of plastered logos on bad quality t shirts, including the pros, and now just wears blanks.
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2 pages in and no one is questioning the validity of this claim?
i mentioned it somewhere else, but cons is hemorrhaging money. it wouldn't surprise me to see nike sell it off, or at least significantly downsize it
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Selt out to big corps was not an economic problem, now we see skaters with big checks compared to core brand era.
Nike team at one point had like 40 skaters, its Adio, Es, Lakai and Fallen teams all combined. But Dvs, DC, Circa and Osiris used to like 20 skaters on the team.
Big corp shoes killed skate brand clothes also, Ezekiel, Elwood, 4 star, Krew, LRG etc. Cause big corp riders cant dress another brand shirts and other clothes.
Carhart is cooler than 4 star now, but what they has to do with skateboarding history?
Nothing remains strong and historic without strong cultural structures and rituals.
Carhartt was in the thrasher skate and destroy game.
I bought dickies cause they were 30 dollars while skate brands were more expensive
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Didn’t Carhartt have a huge Euro skate team presence for forever? I vaguely remember Pontus having had worked with them for a long time even before he launched Polar.
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2 pages in and no one is questioning the validity of this claim?
i mentioned it somewhere else, but cons is hemorrhaging money. it wouldn't surprise me to see nike sell it off, or at least significantly downsize it
I was reading an article about it and Nike seems bullish that it’s keeping Converse, but that could also be posturing. The article did say that Cons makes up like 3% of Nike’s total profits and they only don’t like cons being down because it’s fucking with the perception of Nike turning things around
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It sounds about right
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Selt out to big corps was not an economic problem, now we see skaters with big checks compared to core brand era.
Not true... back then everyone got paid, now only a handful of dudes are getting paid.
Nike team at one point had like 40 skaters, its Adio, Es, Lakai and Fallen teams all combined. But Dvs, DC, Circa and Osiris used to like 20 skaters on the team.
Nike never had 40 AMs and Pros at once. Or those other companies... we aren't including flow riders...
Big corp shoes killed skate brand clothes also, Ezekiel, Elwood, 4 star, Krew, LRG etc. Cause big corp riders cant dress another brand shirts and other clothes.
No they didn't... and lot of those brands didnt make it because skaters stopped wearing skate brand clothes to wear non-skate clothes.
Carhart is cooler than 4 star now, but what they has to do with skateboarding history?
No... no one was buying 4 star towards the end because it became wack... same thing with Dickies... we been wearing that before the skate program. They saw a business opportunity and made a Dickies skate line...
Nothing remains strong and historic without strong cultural structures and rituals.
4star went under due nike effect when Koston and Mariano leaved crail tap cause nike checks was good enough for dont care about dress money.
P.rod leaves 4star right after sign with Nike.
At one point I counted more than 40 pros on nike site: https://www.nikesb.com/team
Skate wear was more for the kid and skateboarding enthusiasts, but having pros in ads and videos commercials helped brands to sell for other people that liked skate. Now its 2 big brands paying few dudes for only wear they pants.
Yeah Nike definitely has a huge team, and I would say they also have a ton of skaters who are "on" but aren't on the team page too. Out of the 12 skaters they just had in their Air Force 1 "Creased" video (if you're in a team video, you're on the team imo), only Antonio, Casper, Cyrus, and Bobby are on the team page. Karim, Poe, Troy, Joe Campos, Jack O'Grady, Ryuhei, Ville, Elijah Odom, and Dante all don't have a profile on the team page.
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2 pages in and no one is questioning the validity of this claim?
They Fired TM Lee Berman A Month Or Two Back
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Anyone else remember how weird their launch was?
(https://image-cdn.hypb.st/www.hypebeast.com%2Fimage%2F2008%2F12%2Fconverse-skateboarding-2009-spring-2.jpg?w=800)
(https://image-cdn.hypb.st/www.hypebeast.com%2Fimage%2F2008%2F12%2Fconverse-skateboarding-2009-spring-3.jpg?w=800)
(http://www.hypebeast.com/image/2008/12/converse-skateboarding-2009-spring-1.jpg)
They launched with two normal-ish chuck colors (but not iconic ones) and weird ass black and yellow one. That puffy chuck was the best vulc shoe and I will die mad that Jason Jesse probably got them to slim it down to complete his peckerwood fit.
Pretty sure this was their first high top chuck:
(https://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/cons_ctshi_red_001.jpg?w=1920)
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Anyone else remember how weird their launch was?
(https://image-cdn.hypb.st/www.hypebeast.com%2Fimage%2F2008%2F12%2Fconverse-skateboarding-2009-spring-2.jpg?w=800)
(https://image-cdn.hypb.st/www.hypebeast.com%2Fimage%2F2008%2F12%2Fconverse-skateboarding-2009-spring-3.jpg?w=800)
(http://www.hypebeast.com/image/2008/12/converse-skateboarding-2009-spring-1.jpg)
They launched with two normal-ish chuck colors (but not iconic ones) and weird ass black and yellow one. That puffy chuck was the best vulc shoe and I will die mad that Jason Jesse probably got them to slim it down to complete his peckerwood fit.
Pretty sure this was their first high top chuck:
(https://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/cons_ctshi_red_001.jpg?w=1920)
I have been searching for a pair of these black/yellow chuck lows for a very long time now. If anybody has a pair size 8 please let me know.
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Anyone remember when they first launched their skate program they had two separate sects when it came to their skate shoes? It was CONS, and then it was Converse Skateboarding. I remember CONS had their logo as just CONS in big bold lettering, but Converse Skateboarding's logo was the star chevron logo minimized on the top left corner on like a flag. I never got why they separated the program in two? Were they going for like a Nike SB/Nike 6.0 thing? They eventually just combined it all into one, but it was always strange to me at first.
I remember my first pair from their launch being shoes from the Converse Skateboarding sect of their skate program, these shoes to be exact:
(https://images.evo.com/imgp/700/39908/237499/converse-star-player-s-ii-ox-shoes-.jpg)
I remember them being pretty durable, I remember thinking they skated decent but lost their grip pretty quickly.
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Anyone remember when they first launched their skate program they had two separate sects when it came to their skate shoes? It was CONS, and then it was Converse Skateboarding. I remember CONS had their logo as just CONS in big bold lettering, but Converse Skateboarding's logo was the star chevron logo minimized on the top left corner on like a flag. I never got why they separated the program in two? Were they going for like a Nike SB/Nike 6.0 thing? They eventually just combined it all into one, but it was always strange to me at first.
I remember my first pair from their launch being shoes from the Converse Skateboarding sect of their skate program, these shoes to be exact:
(https://images.evo.com/imgp/700/39908/237499/converse-star-player-s-ii-ox-shoes-.jpg)
I remember them being pretty durable, I remember thinking they skated decent but lost their grip pretty quickly.
I had a pair, this shoe was indestructible
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2 pages in and no one is questioning the validity of this claim?
DeanMaple would never talk abrasively out of his ass pretending he has a clue about anything that isn’t alcohol
That being said, DC has removed most, if not all, of the Slytherins from its team so I could see Dobby making his triumphant accio back
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would you guys rather skate the chany 1 or 2
(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/0e/fd/dc/0efddcf29a72b342df471dedd2929928.jpg)
(https://www.defynewyork.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Screen-shot-2013-04-01-at-2.34.31-PM.png)
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Feels like the team will be
BDK
Mike Anderson
Louie
Alexis
Milton Martinez
then a bunch of folks getting bumped down to flow.
brian odwyer presumably will make the cut, maybe chris athans too
any girls on their team besides alexis?
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Feels like the team will be
BDK
Mike Anderson
Louie
Alexis
Milton Martinez
then a bunch of folks getting bumped down to flow.
brian odwyer presumably will make the cut, maybe chris athans too
any girls on their team besides alexis?
Bryce
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Feels like the team will be
BDK
Mike Anderson
Louie
Alexis
Milton Martinez
then a bunch of folks getting bumped down to flow.
brian odwyer presumably will make the cut, maybe chris athans too
any girls on their team besides alexis?
Bryce
Ariana Spencer
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who was it that called them racist for not re-posting his clips when he was flow for them again? for whatever reason that just popped into my head while reading through the thread.
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who was it that called them racist for not re-posting his clips when he was flow for them again? for whatever reason that just popped into my head while reading through the thread.
Darius King
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Erik hererra better be chillin too
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would you guys rather skate the chany 1 or 2
(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/0e/fd/dc/0efddcf29a72b342df471dedd2929928.jpg)
(https://www.defynewyork.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Screen-shot-2013-04-01-at-2.34.31-PM.png)
I skated at least three pairs of the ones on top.
Pretty decent shoes. Wish I had better insoles in them.
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i always have to make a vertical cut from the top of the the inside panel of ctas pro, down to the circle logo, in order to get the ankle mobility for even a basic ollie/kickflip. no such trouble w regular chucks or any other high top shoe of any brand i've skated. is it just me? i know people have a hard time "adjusting to the toecap", but i would buy more pares if they had basic ankle mobility.
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Anyone remember when they first launched their skate program they had two separate sects when it came to their skate shoes? It was CONS, and then it was Converse Skateboarding. I remember CONS had their logo as just CONS in big bold lettering, but Converse Skateboarding's logo was the star chevron logo minimized on the top left corner on like a flag. I never got why they separated the program in two? Were they going for like a Nike SB/Nike 6.0 thing? They eventually just combined it all into one, but it was always strange to me at first.
I remember my first pair from their launch being shoes from the Converse Skateboarding sect of their skate program, these shoes to be exact:
I remember them being pretty durable, I remember thinking they skated decent but lost their grip pretty quickly.
Yeah that was their cheaper tier, available at sports shops and shit. Similar to the funky Vans slip-ons they sell at Kohls, or Nike 6.0 like you mentioned. Always thought CONS was a stupid name and they should have used that for the mall shoes.
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would you guys rather skate the chany 1 or 2
(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/0e/fd/dc/0efddcf29a72b342df471dedd2929928.jpg)
(https://www.defynewyork.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Screen-shot-2013-04-01-at-2.34.31-PM.png)
I did skate the Chany’s 1’s, my first proper skate shoe! In the black/red/grey colorway.
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Id go with the 2s just to hoard the helium
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Anyone else remember how weird their launch was?
(https://image-cdn.hypb.st/www.hypebeast.com%2Fimage%2F2008%2F12%2Fconverse-skateboarding-2009-spring-2.jpg?w=800)
(https://image-cdn.hypb.st/www.hypebeast.com%2Fimage%2F2008%2F12%2Fconverse-skateboarding-2009-spring-3.jpg?w=800)
(http://www.hypebeast.com/image/2008/12/converse-skateboarding-2009-spring-1.jpg)
They launched with two normal-ish chuck colors (but not iconic ones) and weird ass black and yellow one. That puffy chuck was the best vulc shoe and I will die mad that Jason Jesse probably got them to slim it down to complete his peckerwood fit.
Pretty sure this was their first high top chuck:
(https://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/cons_ctshi_red_001.jpg?w=1920)
100% something about the first puffy chucks made them the best feeling shoe ever.
There have been many iterations, but none that good again.
They also had a vulc pro leather in the pre-first drops that was basically the one-star now, Trapasso got the cover with the 5-0 in them without publicly quitting Vans, from what I heard at the time.
The cheaper line, which actually had a separate team including Rune Glifberg, was called Black Flag.
This was the thing at the time with Nike 6.0 and Circa Combat doing similar things, although 6.0 only sponsored mall kids and snowboarders.
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Still have my trapasso ox pro mid navy with lime green hits my all time favorite Converse of all time.
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Chany 1 is an obvious Koston 1/D3 knock off. They must have been good tho I used to see those in clips way back.
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Thing is, Converse has a back catalog of shoes they can draw from that people actually want.
How many years now have we all been asking for a skateable weapon re-release?
The AS-1 is constantly being sold at blowout prices (I’ve ranted many times here about the poor design of that model, sorry Alexis).
I think another problem is they just flat out produce too many shoes. All the models can be found online for around $40. No one is buying at the rate that they’re pumping those things out.
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The reality is people will wear and skate chuck taylors with or without a skate team. Some higher up at Nike with a nice cherry stained desk is having a zoom meeting and telling everyone how it’s not viable and to do the things you do to legally end something.
Thats how these things go, it’s a corporation. I hope it’s not true but firing the tm and the entire sales staff seems pretty troubling.
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The reality is people will wear and skate chuck taylors with or without a skate team. Some higher up at Nike with a nice cherry stained desk is having a zoom meeting and telling everyone how it’s not viable and to do the things you do to legally end something.
Thats how these things go, it’s a corporation. I hope it’s not true but firing the tm and the entire sales staff seems pretty troubling.
Trimming the team or cutting back on flowing people is one thing, but this makes it really hard to support them. Plus, corporate shops like SW and CCS mark down their CONS lower than legit shops can.
I rather buy shoes from whatever company takes care of shops the best, but have no idea what that would be. Mandatory and minimum orders with high quantities is wack, especially for the smaller shops.
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Only skaters that I see wearing cons are sponsored ones and dudes that get them in cheap prices from insider gamers.
Cons only sells chuck taylos for alternative people and some high tops for headbangers, they dont need skateboarding marketing.
In other hand New Balance has that old guy stereotype and needs embrance that cool young boy factor. NB numeric is working well for this type of intention. Now every hypebeast is wearing NB or Asics dad shoes.
I feel bad for Brad Cromer, my fav skater on Cons.
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who was it that called them racist for not re-posting his clips when he was flow for them again? for whatever reason that just popped into my head while reading through the thread.
Darius King
Dude completely nuked his career before it even got off the ground. He was good but not THAT good to act the way he was. Can’t even find his Instagram anymore, I know I DM’d him like a man around the time it happened but it’s gone now.
I would buy converse if they were overpriced. A pair of Chucks should not be more than $55, they are the most basic shoe possible. They have a cool image but you need more than an image
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Only skaters that I see wearing cons are sponsored ones and dudes that get them in cheap prices from insider gamers.
Cons only sells chuck taylos for alternative people and some high tops for headbangers, they dont need skateboarding marketing.
In other hand New Balance has that old guy stereotype and needs embrance that cool young boy factor. NB numeric is working well for this type of intention. Now every hypebeast is wearing NB or Asics dad shoes.
I feel bad for Brad Cromer, my fav skater on Cons.
Idk man, in my area Cons have a heavy presence in the skate scene (western MA, CT).
Probably one of the most frequently worn brands I see. Part of that could be due to Plush pushing them for obvious reasons.
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Looking at their team, I can’t really imagine them giving anyone a boot. Maybe they would give Sage or Bobby D some kind of like fashion boot or something.
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I worry for the older guys. Mike Anderson, Aaron Herrington, Brad Cromer, Sammy Baca etc. I hope they can get a new contract.
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Whoa memory unlocked. I think I had a pair of Chany Pro 1 around 2000-2002 but they were all black. Probably a different model but similar to the Chany. Totally forgot about them and they were my very first skate shoes since I started in 1999.
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Thanks for the shoe tips, pals. I've tried the Gilbert Highs, but they're super wide and I don't get that same snuggly feeling I got with CTAS Highs.
But I got some Authentic Highs, Blazer Mids, and LRABs (weird insoles!) on deck and soon it shall be time for a battle royale.
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I worry for the older guys. Mike Anderson, Aaron Herrington, Brad Cromer, Sammy Baca etc. I hope they can get a new contract.
fan of everyone listed but i think some of these guys need to be realistic about their place in skateboarding in 2026 and beyond, if they aren't already
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Thanks for the shoe tips, pals. I've tried the Gilbert Highs, but they're super wide and I don't get that same snuggly feeling I got with CTAS Highs.
But I got some Authentic Highs, Blazer Mids, and LRABs (weird insoles!) on deck and soon it shall be time for a battle royale.
of the shoes you have on deck i'd say blazer mids have the best combination of everything the other shoes offer and the most comfortable. the only downside of them is they're kind of a pain in the ass to take on and off imo
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Maybe we were the cons all along
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All they had to do was release some Pro Leather highs
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All they had to do was release some Pro Leather highs
For real.
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Feels like the team will be
BDK
Mike Anderson
Louie
Alexis
Milton Martinez
then a bunch of folks getting bumped down to flow.
Youngest guy being BDK at 30 is fried. Also if we are going older team, JJ needs to be on the list. His aura goes beyond output at this point. If Cons wants to have a future, Zion Effs, BOD, and people between the ages of those guys.
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You know it was sus when every third kid on the east coast could get on flow about 5 years ago.
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actually this likely affects 2 of my favorite skaters
dilzzzzzzzz + gonogold
Chris Athans, Shaneweck up there for me as well
theres some other people i like on there for sure. i really like the way the all black ones look
they do have some really different type of skaters on there team it was pretty rad. idk if the shoes were really for me but i liked they type of skaters they had that were wearin em thats for sure.
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All they had to do was release some Pro Leather highs
For real.
I like the suede lows as well
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only a matter of time before they pull the plug on nike's skate program and we all go back to skating basketball shoes - then it will REALLY be like the 90s
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only a matter of time before they pull the plug on nike's skate program and we all go back to skating basketball shoes - then it will REALLY be like the 90s
I think it would take a lot for Nike, Cons, Adidas to fully pull out of skateboarding at this point, I could see them dropping most of the team and only keeping 3 main people and a large flow team.
They will probably weight the cost of staying in skating vs the amount of culture points they get from skateboarding.
There is a sick part of me that would enjoy all skateboarding shoes being gone and everybody hunting Ross for the best 'normal' shoes to skate in. It would give us a nice rehash of the 90s.
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Cons has been cool (as far as multinational megacorporations go) imo from riders to videos, but you just can't buy them from skateshops in here, so it's hard to support.
People are sponsored by Cons and they send their riders boxes to the local, but they won't sell stock, which is pretty fucking weird. IIRC it's because they (as in Nike) didn't want the shoes to compete with the SB Dunks when the hype started...
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y'all skated reeboks recently?
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Just put out the jack purcell again
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y'all skated reeboks recently?
Yes, the club C despite being soft leather still skates decent, with some superglue, wish they would remake the workout with the club c sole
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Nike contracts normally expire at the end of May each year (at least in Europe), so I think the same might apply to CONS. If that’s the case, we should start seeing a lot of "OF" threads soon.
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Nike contracts normally expire at the end of May each year (at least in Europe), so I think the same might apply to CONS. If that’s the case, we should start seeing a lot of "OF" threads soon.
"OF" season in May, SOTY season in November - got it.
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y'all skated reeboks recently?
Yes, the club C despite being soft leather still skates decent, with some superglue, wish they would remake the workout with the club c sole
thats what i'm skating. good boardfeel i think
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y'all skated reeboks recently?
Yes, the club C despite being soft leather still skates decent, with some superglue, wish they would remake the workout with the club c sole
thats what i'm skating. good boardfeel i think
Any of the Club C class fucks...
I'd skate the BB4000/4500s as well...
The constant blowouts and sales on the Converse website never bode well, you can get some jawns for like 20 beans...
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This was predicted when when all the big sportwear corporations came in 20 plus years ago. It just took longer than everyone thought for them to eventually pull out.
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This was predicted when when all the big sportwear corporations came in 20 plus years ago. It just took longer than everyone thought for them to eventually pull out.
Quasimodo predicted all of this.
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Watching Skateboarding is just not that interesting to people who don't do it. It is really hard to understand if you do do it... They might as well be watching cricket.
It is getting more and more difficult for small companies to sustain themselves, but its possible if it is scaled to the right size and they understand the user base correctly. Gotta go back to a minimalist approach.
I look at stuff like Fingerboards and Fight Sticks for Street Fighter, and the climate of those products has changed so much in the last 10 years. Theres a ton of mass produced versions of both of those things that are actually really good quality compared to then, and the price point is way down. Those manufacturers understand how to make things cheap and "Good enough" and i feel like we are gonna see a shift in skateboards to stuff like that. There will be some "pro identity" lost i think.
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Feels like the team will be
BDK
Mike Anderson
Louie
Alexis
Milton Martinez
then a bunch of folks getting bumped down to flow.
that's fully a fair point. i dunno, maybe they just don't have a future
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This was predicted when when all the big sportwear corporations came in 20 plus years ago. It just took longer than everyone thought for them to eventually pull out.
Nostradamus and Notre Dame... two different things completely.
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This was predicted when when all the big sportwear corporations came in 20 plus years ago. It just took longer than everyone thought for them to eventually pull out.
Nostradamus and Notre Dame... two different things completely.
You’re telling me all the time he spent with the gypsies he didn’t learn any fortune telling?
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Just put out the jack purcell again
This.
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Feels like the team will be
BDK
Mike Anderson
Louie
Alexis
Milton Martinez
then a bunch of folks getting bumped down to flow.
that's fully a fair point. i dunno, maybe they just don't have a future
Romel Torres shows a lot of promise:
http://youtu.be/7NJDn09UoRw
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I worry for the older guys. Mike Anderson, Aaron Herrington, Brad Cromer, Sammy Baca etc. I hope they can get a new contract.
Manderson is one of the most talented dudes out there. Still killing it.
I think they'll keep Jake if they do have a downsizing. He adds a lot of underground cred.
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This ain't an old photo right? Them don't look like converse
(https://i.ibb.co/nqxTnXT5/Screenshot-20260501-094652-651.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/GvjcCHmq/Screenshot-20260501-094728-440.png)
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This ain't an old photo right? Them don't look like converse
(https://i.ibb.co/nqxTnXT5/Screenshot-20260501-094652-651.png)
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they look like telfords sans flare
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I worry for the older guys. Mike Anderson, Aaron Herrington, Brad Cromer, Sammy Baca etc. I hope they can get a new contract.
Manderson is one of the most talented dudes out there. Still killing it.
I think they'll keep Jake if they do have a downsizing. He adds a lot of underground cred.
yeah he’s definitely the best on that list and most deserving of a contract extension but he’s also close to 40 and i’m not sure what more we can expect out of him, career-wise. another video part or two, at most? its not like i don’t want these guys to get paid, i just understand why cons might want to invest elsewhere at this point
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This ain't an old photo right? Them don't look like converse
(https://i.ibb.co/nqxTnXT5/Screenshot-20260501-094652-651.png)
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The clip was in the last Lakai full length 3+ years ago so its an old photo.
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I worry for the older guys. Mike Anderson, Aaron Herrington, Brad Cromer, Sammy Baca etc. I hope they can get a new contract.
Manderson is one of the most talented dudes out there. Still killing it.
I think they'll keep Jake if they do have a downsizing. He adds a lot of underground cred.
I feel like we could expect a few video parts from him, which is the point of being a pro skater. I understand your thinking though. I just think that getting rid of long term people like Manderson and Jake would hurt the brand a lot.
I like Aaron a lot, but Pontus would probably snatch him up for LRAB right away.
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This ain't an old photo right? Them don't look like converse
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It’s his like psuedo pro model he had in lakai.
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This ain't an old photo right? Them don't look like converse
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It’s his like psuedo pro model he had in lakai.
You're thinking of the Villa, which also had a black and blue colorway and was his 'rider model' or whatever.
Those are Telford Low Fourstar collabs.
I don't choose to remember these things about Lakai I promise.
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Nike did over 1400 layoffs this week, including a bunch at Converse.
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Yeah, they fucked up relying too much on DTC
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This brand is important to us, but it's a sliver of a sliver.....
What sort of normal person buys converse?
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I still got a pair of the lunarlon ones
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Didn‘t read this full thread but it made me order 3 pairs of one star pros as a backup.
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This brand is important to us, but it's a sliver of a sliver.....
What sort of normal person buys converse?
Me! Not sure whether I am normal, tho. Chuck Taylor Skate is a great, inexpensive (80€), rather long lasting shoe...
Is there any "evidence" about reducing the amount of team riders?
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It looks like Bobby is filming with Ben Chadourne in Paris wearing the new pro leather hi's so they cant be doing too bad.
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Why doesn’t BDK have a pro shoe? I feel like they’ve under marketed him, he's one of the best street skaters ever. I know he had a colorway but they should’ve capitalized on him.
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Would it have made an iota of difference on Nike’s balance sheet? Has there been a pro model that has even come close to moving the needle? It would be a jack purcel/ one star hybrid or something while the rest of skateboarding would be losing their shit over mountain climbing shoes or anything with a giant N on it….
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Why doesn’t BDK have a pro shoe? I feel like they’ve under marketed him, he's one of the best street skaters ever. I know he had a colorway but they should’ve capitalized on him.
Dude, are you canadian? I can name at least 30 better pros than BDK...He not even better than Bobby.
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Would it have made an iota of difference on Nike’s balance sheet? Has there been a pro model that has even come close to moving the needle? It would be a jack purcel/ one star hybrid or something while the rest of skateboarding would be losing their shit over mountain climbing shoes or anything with a giant N on it….
Move the needle like a Janoski? Louie 1s seemed to be pretty popular
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how's the Janoski doing in 2026? It would do about as well as Curran Caples pro model..... lead.......balloon..... coming from a guy who just bought a pair of fastbreaks after watching alot of Brad Cromer's youtube channel.
It looks like the whole company is in bad shape, and we expect them to pump money into a skateboard program?
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Why doesn’t BDK have a pro shoe? I feel like they’ve under marketed him, he's one of the best street skaters ever. I know he had a colorway but they should’ve capitalized on him.
Dude, are you canadian? I can name at least 30 better pros than BDK...He not even better than Bobby.
Bro you are just lying to yourself if he isn’t one of the best skaters right now overall let alone on cons in regards to technical skill and style. Regardless he’s pretty popular and have plenty of friends who consider him their favorite pro right now who are not Canadian.
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Why doesn’t BDK have a pro shoe? I feel like they’ve under marketed him, he's one of the best street skaters ever. I know he had a colorway but they should’ve capitalized on him.
Dude, are you canadian? I can name at least 30 better pros than BDK...He not even better than Bobby.
I think he’s a perfect colorway type of guy. Sage, swan, and jk never got pro models and they are/were very much more popular.
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Imagine giving a pro model to Sage and Sean Pablo.
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Imagine giving a pro model to Sage and Sean Pablo.
In 2015 You'd Be A Fucking Idiot Not To. Thing Probably Printed Money For Cons
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Cons did a lotta money without giving them pro models.
Not dumb at all
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Cons did a lotta money without giving them pro models.
Not dumb at all
Not enough to keep the brand around.
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Why doesn’t BDK have a pro shoe? I feel like they’ve under marketed him, he's one of the best street skaters ever. I know he had a colorway but they should’ve capitalized on him.
Supposedly they were/are meant to release the Pro Leather as a BDK pro model this year but no confirmation from my friend that rides for cons Australia
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IS THERE ANY PROOF OF THIS END OF CONS TING??
I mean bobby d is atm in paris filming with bend chad and type shit
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First brand/team to cool guy themselves into bankruptcy?
Possibly the truest part of this thread - Cons, at least in Europe, seems to only sponsor the coolest of the cool and ads like the one in Paris with the red wine spilling over the table while whichever ultra-cool rider dressed in black ollies over couldn't be less relevant to younger kids. Kids like tik tok, not red wine in Paris. Cons got far too cool for their own good.
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First brand/team to cool guy themselves into bankruptcy?
Possibly the truest part of this thread - Cons, at least in Europe, seems to only sponsor the coolest of the cool and ads like the one in Paris with the red wine spilling over the table while whichever ultra-cool rider dressed in black ollies over couldn't be less relevant to younger kids. Kids like tik tok, not red wine in Paris. Cons got far too cool for their own good.
Yeah what’s with all these brands not premiering skate parts in fortnight or refusing to skate obstacles made in Minecraft/roblox?
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Ok, i realise that what kids like now is going to seem repugnant to most skaters over a certain age but if these brands don't try to cater for young kids then who the fuck are they going to sell shoes/whatever to in the future?
The industry is pretty much run, head to toe, by dudes in their 50s who, for their whole careers, have known whats up in skateboarding. They were there in '93, saw the street revolution and the death of vert first hand. Experienced all the trouser and wheels sizes and know which trends worked and which didn't. They were part of the most progressive years in skate history but now those people are doomed to keep repeating that formula to kids who couldn't give a fuck about pro skaters, arty skate videos and core mags.
When Rocco turned World into a cartoon toyshop brand we all thought that was terrible but it brought in a new generation of skaters. Super arty cool guys in plain black shoes don't have that appeal to the kids. Marketing skateboard products to actual kids is a lost art.
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Heard there’s only a handful of guys getting an opportunity to re-sign their contracts
I'd imagine Louie at least. The guy is such a good skater and deserves to be on even if they take away his shoe. Get rid of the FA guys and Baca. Hopefully Zered is still on but he hard has any sponsors going on.
The one negative I can think of for Lou is his pro shoe ended up in marshals discount pile. And not just a few like the 808. There was hundreds of pairs.
I tried them on and was like. I can’t skate in these. I even thought did they make a non skate version of this shoe?
Idk if state still exists but I see any team cuts to cons as a way for TB to level up a bit.
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Ok, i realise that what kids like now is going to seem repugnant to most skaters over a certain age but if these brands don't try to cater for young kids then who the fuck are they going to sell shoes/whatever to in the future?
The industry is pretty much run, head to toe, by dudes in their 50s who, for their whole careers, have known whats up in skateboarding. They were there in '93, saw the street revolution and the death of vert first hand. Experienced all the trouser and wheels sizes and know which trends worked and which didn't. They were part of the most progressive years in skate history but now those people are doomed to keep repeating that formula to kids who couldn't give a fuck about pro skaters, arty skate videos and core mags.
When Rocco turned World into a cartoon toyshop brand we all thought that was terrible but it brought in a new generation of skaters. Super arty cool guys in plain black shoes don't have that appeal to the kids. Marketing skateboard products to actual kids is a lost art.
CHURCH!
(i don't think anyone says that anymore, but this guy gets it, skateing has become a fucking circle jerk)
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Ok, i realise that what kids like now is going to seem repugnant to most skaters over a certain age but if these brands don't try to cater for young kids then who the fuck are they going to sell shoes/whatever to in the future?
The industry is pretty much run, head to toe, by dudes in their 50s who, for their whole careers, have known whats up in skateboarding. They were there in '93, saw the street revolution and the death of vert first hand. Experienced all the trouser and wheels sizes and know which trends worked and which didn't. They were part of the most progressive years in skate history but now those people are doomed to keep repeating that formula to kids who couldn't give a fuck about pro skaters, arty skate videos and core mags.
When Rocco turned World into a cartoon toyshop brand we all thought that was terrible but it brought in a new generation of skaters. Super arty cool guys in plain black shoes don't have that appeal to the kids. Marketing skateboard products to actual kids is a lost art.
CHURCH!
(i don't think anyone says that anymore, but this guy gets it, skateing has become a fucking circle jerk)
So change the entire industry in hopes that it’ll appeal to 7-10 year olds? Return to retiring pros at 24 because they’re too old for kids to comprehend/like?
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Yes. That's a start
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Mi zimmi Dela still uptown rank in a dem Cons
Mi seh iffa retire supreme employee still blessed wi shoes dem den disya nah tale ah how deh sheep fluff an dem goat fat ya hear me
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Ok, i realise that what kids like now is going to seem repugnant to most skaters over a certain age but if these brands don't try to cater for young kids then who the fuck are they going to sell shoes/whatever to in the future?
The industry is pretty much run, head to toe, by dudes in their 50s who, for their whole careers, have known whats up in skateboarding. They were there in '93, saw the street revolution and the death of vert first hand. Experienced all the trouser and wheels sizes and know which trends worked and which didn't. They were part of the most progressive years in skate history but now those people are doomed to keep repeating that formula to kids who couldn't give a fuck about pro skaters, arty skate videos and core mags.
When Rocco turned World into a cartoon toyshop brand we all thought that was terrible but it brought in a new generation of skaters. Super arty cool guys in plain black shoes don't have that appeal to the kids. Marketing skateboard products to actual kids is a lost art.
CHURCH!
(i don't think anyone says that anymore, but this guy gets it, skateing has become a fucking circle jerk)
So change the entire industry in hopes that it’ll appeal to 7-10 year olds? Return to retiring pros at 24 because they’re too old for kids to comprehend/like?
Yes, Its Time To Stop Letting Chopped Middle Aged Men Call The Shots Because They Dont Want To Get A Real Job. Step Aside And Give The Kids A Shot Before Its Too Late
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Ok, i realise that what kids like now is going to seem repugnant to most skaters over a certain age but if these brands don't try to cater for young kids then who the fuck are they going to sell shoes/whatever to in the future?
The industry is pretty much run, head to toe, by dudes in their 50s who, for their whole careers, have known whats up in skateboarding. They were there in '93, saw the street revolution and the death of vert first hand. Experienced all the trouser and wheels sizes and know which trends worked and which didn't. They were part of the most progressive years in skate history but now those people are doomed to keep repeating that formula to kids who couldn't give a fuck about pro skaters, arty skate videos and core mags.
When Rocco turned World into a cartoon toyshop brand we all thought that was terrible but it brought in a new generation of skaters. Super arty cool guys in plain black shoes don't have that appeal to the kids. Marketing skateboard products to actual kids is a lost art.
CHURCH!
(i don't think anyone says that anymore, but this guy gets it, skateing has become a fucking circle jerk)
So change the entire industry in hopes that it’ll appeal to 7-10 year olds? Return to retiring pros at 24 because they’re too old for kids to comprehend/like?
And considering none of us have a financial stake in the industry, these are the changes we want to see implemented? Trae the Tanks as far as the eye can see
I guess it makes sense. Kids are really into watching people ther own age like Mr Beast, Kai Cenat, Speed and nothing will make skateboarding seem cooler than desperately chasing engagement I guess it’s why every interview with a skater that asks how they got into skateboarding would read better if it said “well I found that I was marketed to appropriately for my demographic”
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Ok, i realise that what kids like now is going to seem repugnant to most skaters over a certain age but if these brands don't try to cater for young kids then who the fuck are they going to sell shoes/whatever to in the future?
The industry is pretty much run, head to toe, by dudes in their 50s who, for their whole careers, have known whats up in skateboarding. They were there in '93, saw the street revolution and the death of vert first hand. Experienced all the trouser and wheels sizes and know which trends worked and which didn't. They were part of the most progressive years in skate history but now those people are doomed to keep repeating that formula to kids who couldn't give a fuck about pro skaters, arty skate videos and core mags.
When Rocco turned World into a cartoon toyshop brand we all thought that was terrible but it brought in a new generation of skaters. Super arty cool guys in plain black shoes don't have that appeal to the kids. Marketing skateboard products to actual kids is a lost art.
CHURCH!
(i don't think anyone says that anymore, but this guy gets it, skateing has become a fucking circle jerk)
So change the entire industry in hopes that it’ll appeal to 7-10 year olds? Return to retiring pros at 24 because they’re too old for kids to comprehend/like?
And considering none of us have a financial stake in the industry, these are the changes we want to see? Trae the Tanks as far as the eye can see
No Youre Totally Right Lets Let Skateboarding Culture Keep Circling The Drain So The Same Washed Pros And Industry "Legends" Can Force Themselves Upon Us And Random Old Guys Can Think They're "Hip"
Btw If You Followed Skating A Little More Closely Youd Know Theres Plenty Of Talented Teens And Twentysomethings Out There Putting Out Cool Videos/Footage Who Deserve The Spotlight, Not Everyone Born After 9/11 Is A Contest Kid Or Whatever. Also Trae The Tank Was A Result Of A Random Middle Aged Man Who Didnt Want To Get A Job And Lived Vicariously Through His Kid .. Just Saying!
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Ok, i realise that what kids like now is going to seem repugnant to most skaters over a certain age but if these brands don't try to cater for young kids then who the fuck are they going to sell shoes/whatever to in the future?
The industry is pretty much run, head to toe, by dudes in their 50s who, for their whole careers, have known whats up in skateboarding. They were there in '93, saw the street revolution and the death of vert first hand. Experienced all the trouser and wheels sizes and know which trends worked and which didn't. They were part of the most progressive years in skate history but now those people are doomed to keep repeating that formula to kids who couldn't give a fuck about pro skaters, arty skate videos and core mags.
When Rocco turned World into a cartoon toyshop brand we all thought that was terrible but it brought in a new generation of skaters. Super arty cool guys in plain black shoes don't have that appeal to the kids. Marketing skateboard products to actual kids is a lost art.
Kids are playing online games instead real sports and the ones that skate once in a while dont give a damn about skate culture.
Theyoungs in ther 20's that skates often are biting old skaters in baggie pants and white t-shirts.
You should Watch the new videos and stop talking bullshit, cause I only see skaters dressing like Julien Stranger or 96 Trilogy type of shi.
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Ok, i realise that what kids like now is going to seem repugnant to most skaters over a certain age but if these brands don't try to cater for young kids then who the fuck are they going to sell shoes/whatever to in the future?
The industry is pretty much run, head to toe, by dudes in their 50s who, for their whole careers, have known whats up in skateboarding. They were there in '93, saw the street revolution and the death of vert first hand. Experienced all the trouser and wheels sizes and know which trends worked and which didn't. They were part of the most progressive years in skate history but now those people are doomed to keep repeating that formula to kids who couldn't give a fuck about pro skaters, arty skate videos and core mags.
When Rocco turned World into a cartoon toyshop brand we all thought that was terrible but it brought in a new generation of skaters. Super arty cool guys in plain black shoes don't have that appeal to the kids. Marketing skateboard products to actual kids is a lost art.
CHURCH!
(i don't think anyone says that anymore, but this guy gets it, skateing has become a fucking circle jerk)
So change the entire industry in hopes that it’ll appeal to 7-10 year olds? Return to retiring pros at 24 because they’re too old for kids to comprehend/like?
And considering none of us have a financial stake in the industry, these are the changes we want to see? Trae the Tanks as far as the eye can see
Btw If You Followed Skating A Little More Closely Youd Know Theres Plenty Of Talented Teens And Twentysomethings Out There Putting Out Cool Videos/Footage Who Deserve The Spotlight, Not Everyone Born After 9/11 Is A Contest Kid Or Whatever. Also Trae The Tank Was A Result Of A Random Middle Aged Man Who Didnt Want To Get A Job And Lived Vicariously Through His Kid .. Just Saying!
Who is getting ignored at the expense of an older person?
Just thinking of recent videos:
Million + views for 37 year olds Antuwan content seems like it can live just as well on YouTube as it does for 21 year old Jaeb (124k views) and teenager Julian Agliardi (172k). Spotlight is being very balanced especially when you think Jaeb was given his own platform for quasi and not lumped in with all those vomit-inducing 30 year old skaters in the team video
In that Air Force 1 video Nike did Troy Gipson sure seemed to get as much shine as grandpa Durao and none of the legacy pros were foisted on you in there.
And considering videos get posted daily, I’m sure there’s significantly more teenager/20 something content on there than the memories of Gino promoting an asics colorway seven months ago
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Ok, i realise that what kids like now is going to seem repugnant to most skaters over a certain age but if these brands don't try to cater for young kids then who the fuck are they going to sell shoes/whatever to in the future?
The industry is pretty much run, head to toe, by dudes in their 50s who, for their whole careers, have known whats up in skateboarding. They were there in '93, saw the street revolution and the death of vert first hand. Experienced all the trouser and wheels sizes and know which trends worked and which didn't. They were part of the most progressive years in skate history but now those people are doomed to keep repeating that formula to kids who couldn't give a fuck about pro skaters, arty skate videos and core mags.
When Rocco turned World into a cartoon toyshop brand we all thought that was terrible but it brought in a new generation of skaters. Super arty cool guys in plain black shoes don't have that appeal to the kids. Marketing skateboard products to actual kids is a lost art.
CHURCH!
(i don't think anyone says that anymore, but this guy gets it, skateing has become a fucking circle jerk)
So change the entire industry in hopes that it’ll appeal to 7-10 year olds? Return to retiring pros at 24 because they’re too old for kids to comprehend/like?
And considering none of us have a financial stake in the industry, these are the changes we want to see? Trae the Tanks as far as the eye can see
Btw If You Followed Skating A Little More Closely Youd Know Theres Plenty Of Talented Teens And Twentysomethings Out There Putting Out Cool Videos/Footage Who Deserve The Spotlight, Not Everyone Born After 9/11 Is A Contest Kid Or Whatever. Also Trae The Tank Was A Result Of A Random Middle Aged Man Who Didnt Want To Get A Job And Lived Vicariously Through His Kid .. Just Saying!
Who is getting ignored at the expense of an older person?
Just thinking of recent videos:
Million + views for 37 year olds Antuwan content seems like it can live just as well on YouTube as it does for 21 year old Jaeb (124k views) and teenager Julian Agliardi (172k). Spotlight is being very balanced especially when you think Jaeb was given his own platform for quasi and not lumped in with all those vomit-inducing 30 year old skaters in the team video
In that Air Force 1 video Nike did Troy Gipson sure seemed to get as much shine as grandpa Durao and none of the legacy pros were foisted on you in there.
And considering videos get posted daily, I’m sure there’s significantly more teenager/20 something content on there than the memories of Gino promoting an asics colorway seven months ago
Stop Cherrypicking View Counts (Totally Worthless Without Upload Dates) And Acting Like Anyone Said Everyone Over 30 Should Die, Youre Making Yourself Look Like An Idiot
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJJybJMlrO8
fucking good video....I even saw Shorty's Steve Olson clone on it.
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Ok, i realise that what kids like now is going to seem repugnant to most skaters over a certain age but if these brands don't try to cater for young kids then who the fuck are they going to sell shoes/whatever to in the future?
The industry is pretty much run, head to toe, by dudes in their 50s who, for their whole careers, have known whats up in skateboarding. They were there in '93, saw the street revolution and the death of vert first hand. Experienced all the trouser and wheels sizes and know which trends worked and which didn't. They were part of the most progressive years in skate history but now those people are doomed to keep repeating that formula to kids who couldn't give a fuck about pro skaters, arty skate videos and core mags.
When Rocco turned World into a cartoon toyshop brand we all thought that was terrible but it brought in a new generation of skaters. Super arty cool guys in plain black shoes don't have that appeal to the kids. Marketing skateboard products to actual kids is a lost art.
CHURCH!
(i don't think anyone says that anymore, but this guy gets it, skateing has become a fucking circle jerk)
So change the entire industry in hopes that it’ll appeal to 7-10 year olds? Return to retiring pros at 24 because they’re too old for kids to comprehend/like?
And considering none of us have a financial stake in the industry, these are the changes we want to see? Trae the Tanks as far as the eye can see
Btw If You Followed Skating A Little More Closely Youd Know Theres Plenty Of Talented Teens And Twentysomethings Out There Putting Out Cool Videos/Footage Who Deserve The Spotlight, Not Everyone Born After 9/11 Is A Contest Kid Or Whatever. Also Trae The Tank Was A Result Of A Random Middle Aged Man Who Didnt Want To Get A Job And Lived Vicariously Through His Kid .. Just Saying!
Who is getting ignored at the expense of an older person?
Just thinking of recent videos:
Million + views for 37 year olds Antuwan content seems like it can live just as well on YouTube as it does for 21 year old Jaeb (124k views) and teenager Julian Agliardi (172k). Spotlight is being very balanced especially when you think Jaeb was given his own platform for quasi and not lumped in with all those vomit-inducing 30 year old skaters in the team video
In that Air Force 1 video Nike did Troy Gipson sure seemed to get as much shine as grandpa Durao and none of the legacy pros were foisted on you in there.
And considering videos get posted daily, I’m sure there’s significantly more teenager/20 something content on there than the memories of Gino promoting an asics colorway seven months ago
I’m not cherry-picking. Those were the biggest solo part released within the past month. And again I ask: what young skaters are not getting the spotlight they deserve?
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There’s a ton of young skaters who could be pushed by companies more if they wanted to. That would actually make for a good thread, just calling out all the underrated skaters out there, regardless of age even.
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Ok, i realise that what kids like now is going to seem repugnant to most skaters over a certain age but if these brands don't try to cater for young kids then who the fuck are they going to sell shoes/whatever to in the future?
The industry is pretty much run, head to toe, by dudes in their 50s who, for their whole careers, have known whats up in skateboarding. They were there in '93, saw the street revolution and the death of vert first hand. Experienced all the trouser and wheels sizes and know which trends worked and which didn't. They were part of the most progressive years in skate history but now those people are doomed to keep repeating that formula to kids who couldn't give a fuck about pro skaters, arty skate videos and core mags.
When Rocco turned World into a cartoon toyshop brand we all thought that was terrible but it brought in a new generation of skaters. Super arty cool guys in plain black shoes don't have that appeal to the kids. Marketing skateboard products to actual kids is a lost art.
CHURCH!
(i don't think anyone says that anymore, but this guy gets it, skateing has become a fucking circle jerk)
So change the entire industry in hopes that it’ll appeal to 7-10 year olds? Return to retiring pros at 24 because they’re too old for kids to comprehend/like?
And considering none of us have a financial stake in the industry, these are the changes we want to see implemented? Trae the Tanks as far as the eye can see
I guess it makes sense. Kids are really into watching people ther own age like Mr Beast, Kai Cenat, Speed and nothing will make skateboarding seem cooler than desperately chasing engagement I guess it’s why every interview with a skater that asks how they got into skateboarding would read better if it said “well I found that I was marketed to appropriately for my demographic”
Some of us DO have a financial stake in the industry - I've worked in it for 25 years and my grown-up family life and financial responsibilities depend upon it.
I'm not saying that younger skaters aren't given a chance or that we need to be chasing engagement over eveything else - I'm saying the youth aren't reacting to the world of 2026 skateboard marketing because they're NOT EVEN SEEING IT.
They don't read mags, they're not on Instagram, they don't care about video parts or pro skaters, sweeping generalisations of course. I work on this shit every day and I'm telling you that the old methods of promoting skateboarding aren't working anymore.
I've run several IG accounts for American skate brands in Europe and the stats you get from the app are that the kids just aren't on there. 13-17 is one of the lowest demographics on every one. If my computer will work i'll upload a screengrab below...
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Ok, i realise that what kids like now is going to seem repugnant to most skaters over a certain age but if these brands don't try to cater for young kids then who the fuck are they going to sell shoes/whatever to in the future?
The industry is pretty much run, head to toe, by dudes in their 50s who, for their whole careers, have known whats up in skateboarding. They were there in '93, saw the street revolution and the death of vert first hand. Experienced all the trouser and wheels sizes and know which trends worked and which didn't. They were part of the most progressive years in skate history but now those people are doomed to keep repeating that formula to kids who couldn't give a fuck about pro skaters, arty skate videos and core mags.
When Rocco turned World into a cartoon toyshop brand we all thought that was terrible but it brought in a new generation of skaters. Super arty cool guys in plain black shoes don't have that appeal to the kids. Marketing skateboard products to actual kids is a lost art.
CHURCH!
(i don't think anyone says that anymore, but this guy gets it, skateing has become a fucking circle jerk)
So change the entire industry in hopes that it’ll appeal to 7-10 year olds? Return to retiring pros at 24 because they’re too old for kids to comprehend/like?
And considering none of us have a financial stake in the industry, these are the changes we want to see implemented? Trae the Tanks as far as the eye can see
I guess it makes sense. Kids are really into watching people ther own age like Mr Beast, Kai Cenat, Speed and nothing will make skateboarding seem cooler than desperately chasing engagement I guess it’s why every interview with a skater that asks how they got into skateboarding would read better if it said “well I found that I was marketed to appropriately for my demographic”
Some of us DO have a financial stake in the industry - I've worked in it for 25 years and my grown-up family life and financial responsibilities depend upon it.
I'm not saying that younger skaters aren't given a chance or that we need to be chasing engagement over eveything else - I'm saying the youth aren't reacting to the world of 2026 skateboard marketing because they're NOT EVEN SEEING IT.
They don't read mags, they're not on Instagram, they don't care about video parts or pro skaters, sweeping generalisations of course. I work on this shit every day and I'm telling you that the old methods of promoting skateboarding aren't working anymore.
I've run several IG accounts for American skate brands in Europe and the stats you get from the app are that the kids just aren't on there. 13-17 is one of the lowest demographics on every one. If my computer will work i'll upload a screengrab below...
Ok I get the point you’re making. Skateboarding is largely invisible to the young people regardless of who’s being promoted within the industry and that’s a dicier prospect. it feels like the challenging step is not chasing trends a step or two behind what’s popular and diluting skateboarding’s “coolness” for lack of a better word.
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I agree - skateboarding doesn't need diluting and i've always thought the word 'gatekeeping' isn't necessarily a bad word when it comes to our community. WE collectively decided that beni's are wack, you don't carry your board by your truck, you point your wheel graphics inwards, etc etc. That doesn't need to change.
What needs to change is the delivery method of our marketing - Instagram is now something your dad does, skating curbs is too, reading mags seems prehistoric to a 12 year old. We don't have to make videos like the tik tok dance crowd but we have to recognise that we're missing a huge and important audience by turning our noses up at the whole platform.
I make a habit of talking to younger skaters when i meet them and i ask questions on this subject.
Last kid i spoke to, I think he was 13.
"Who's your favourite skater?" - "I don't have one"
"Do you know of any pro skaters?" - "Nope"
"Do you watch skate videos?" - "Yeah but not the proper ones, I only watch the ones with people talking"
"What board are you riding?" - "Polar, Herrington" (He didn't know that Aaron Herrington was a skater or that was his pro model)
Things are very different now.
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Ok, i realise that what kids like now is going to seem repugnant to most skaters over a certain age but if these brands don't try to cater for young kids then who the fuck are they going to sell shoes/whatever to in the future?
The industry is pretty much run, head to toe, by dudes in their 50s who, for their whole careers, have known whats up in skateboarding. They were there in '93, saw the street revolution and the death of vert first hand. Experienced all the trouser and wheels sizes and know which trends worked and which didn't. They were part of the most progressive years in skate history but now those people are doomed to keep repeating that formula to kids who couldn't give a fuck about pro skaters, arty skate videos and core mags.
When Rocco turned World into a cartoon toyshop brand we all thought that was terrible but it brought in a new generation of skaters. Super arty cool guys in plain black shoes don't have that appeal to the kids. Marketing skateboard products to actual kids is a lost art.
CHURCH!
(i don't think anyone says that anymore, but this guy gets it, skateing has become a fucking circle jerk)
So change the entire industry in hopes that it’ll appeal to 7-10 year olds? Return to retiring pros at 24 because they’re too old for kids to comprehend/like?
And considering none of us have a financial stake in the industry, these are the changes we want to see implemented? Trae the Tanks as far as the eye can see
I guess it makes sense. Kids are really into watching people ther own age like Mr Beast, Kai Cenat, Speed and nothing will make skateboarding seem cooler than desperately chasing engagement I guess it’s why every interview with a skater that asks how they got into skateboarding would read better if it said “well I found that I was marketed to appropriately for my demographic”
Some of us DO have a financial stake in the industry - I've worked in it for 25 years and my grown-up family life and financial responsibilities depend upon it.
I'm not saying that younger skaters aren't given a chance or that we need to be chasing engagement over eveything else - I'm saying the youth aren't reacting to the world of 2026 skateboard marketing because they're NOT EVEN SEEING IT.
They don't read mags, they're not on Instagram, they don't care about video parts or pro skaters, sweeping generalisations of course. I work on this shit every day and I'm telling you that the old methods of promoting skateboarding aren't working anymore.
I've run several IG accounts for American skate brands in Europe and the stats you get from the app are that the kids just aren't on there. 13-17 is one of the lowest demographics on every one. If my computer will work i'll upload a screengrab below...
I think in today's society, most kids in the 13-17 demo need to be prompted by their parents to be involved in activities. I am seeing nearly the same exact demographic on my pages (I run x3 pages).
I will say since the largest demo we reach are Parents of younger kids, it has helped our "Beginner Saturday" Free Skate Clinic events greatly as they are spread word of mouth by moms/dads that wanna get their kids outside and involved in an activity that isn't a team sport.
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I thinks it’s about the contrast, in 2004 when ur mom dragged you on errands a skate magazine in the rack of bullshit people mags was the coolest thing you saw all week. I don’t know how/if we get back to that.
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Build more skateparks in roblox for the kids
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Fortnite x tony hawk
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To be honest I dont think kids 13-17 should even be on instagram
people just need to get outside and do stuff instead of brain rot
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To be honest I dont think kids 13-17 should even be on instagram
people just need to get outside and do stuff instead of brain rot
Absolutely! The need for events is stronger than ever. Pro's need to do demos again, kids might learn who they are then.
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Ok, i realise that what kids like now is going to seem repugnant to most skaters over a certain age but if these brands don't try to cater for young kids then who the fuck are they going to sell shoes/whatever to in the future?
The industry is pretty much run, head to toe, by dudes in their 50s who, for their whole careers, have known whats up in skateboarding. They were there in '93, saw the street revolution and the death of vert first hand. Experienced all the trouser and wheels sizes and know which trends worked and which didn't. They were part of the most progressive years in skate history but now those people are doomed to keep repeating that formula to kids who couldn't give a fuck about pro skaters, arty skate videos and core mags.
When Rocco turned World into a cartoon toyshop brand we all thought that was terrible but it brought in a new generation of skaters. Super arty cool guys in plain black shoes don't have that appeal to the kids. Marketing skateboard products to actual kids is a lost art.
CHURCH!
(i don't think anyone says that anymore, but this guy gets it, skateing has become a fucking circle jerk)
So change the entire industry in hopes that it’ll appeal to 7-10 year olds? Return to retiring pros at 24 because they’re too old for kids to comprehend/like?
Nah but skateboarding needs a termite bland reboot.
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Bless every kid out there who doesn't give a fuck about who desperately wants their "engagement." If you can or do eat of skateboarding, great, sincerely wish you the same continued stability and success as to every other one of us poor saps trying to live another day in relative security and happiness, but don't start confusing selling skateboarding or its popularity with actual skateboarding.
To paraphrase Jack Phelps, skateboarding doesn't owe you a follow, skateboarding owes you a 404 error when your domain runs out.
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To paraphrase Jack Phelps, skateboarding doesn't owe you a follow, skateboarding owes you a 404 error when your domain runs out.
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i’m not sure if “the kids” have any better ideas, like yeah let’s wear fucking tapout shirts and huge jorts
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so impressed that louie lopez has skated converse this long without destroying his feet - those shoes are terrible.
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so impressed that louie lopez has skated converse this long without destroying his feet - those shoes are terrible.
i think the fastbreaks are a great model even though it's the only the most protective they have by default. i've noticed whenever louie lopez is doing bigger drops he's usually got the fastbreaks on
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so impressed that louie lopez has skated converse this long without destroying his feet - those shoes are terrible.
i think the fastbreaks are a great model even though it's the only the most protective they have by default. i've noticed whenever louie lopez is doing bigger drops he's usually got the fastbreaks on
Yeah I remember the al davis ones i wanted them so much but that was a very broke time in my life lol
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I agree - skateboarding doesn't need diluting and i've always thought the word 'gatekeeping' isn't necessarily a bad word when it comes to our community. WE collectively decided that beni's are wack, you don't carry your board by your truck, you point your wheel graphics inwards, etc etc. That doesn't need to change.
What needs to change is the delivery method of our marketing - Instagram is now something your dad does, skating curbs is too, reading mags seems prehistoric to a 12 year old. We don't have to make videos like the tik tok dance crowd but we have to recognise that we're missing a huge and important audience by turning our noses up at the whole platform.
I make a habit of talking to younger skaters when i meet them and i ask questions on this subject.
Last kid i spoke to, I think he was 13.
"Who's your favourite skater?" - "I don't have one"
"Do you know of any pro skaters?" - "Nope"
"Do you watch skate videos?" - "Yeah but not the proper ones, I only watch the ones with people talking"
"What board are you riding?" - "Polar, Herrington" (He didn't know that Aaron Herrington was a skater or that was his pro model)
Things are very different now.
I have had a few very similar conversations but closer to someone in their early 20s. I think this has been how a lotttt of kids feel. We are like a small subdivision of skateboarding that cares who is who and who rides for what. Theses kids likely know some Instagram personality muchhh better than someone like Stefan janoski who they may be wearing his shoes. It’s weird but makes sense when I pause and think about it.
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(https://i.imgflip.com/arauem.jpg)
kind of a trip to see franknose in 3 stripes
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Gerwer rocking adidas is all I need to see. To me Frank was the unofficial spokesman for cons.
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Just listened to the Alexis Sablone episode of the Good Luck With That podcast and they discussed working on their next shoe with Cons. Not sure how long ago it was recorded but it was released 5/4 so can't be that outdated. Not sure if this gives hope to Cons fans but seems strange they wouldn't touch on the shoe being nixed if Cons is, in fact, on the way out.
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Just listened to the Alexis Sablone episode of the Good Luck With That podcast and they discussed working on their next shoe with Cons. Not sure how long ago it was recorded but it was released 5/4 so can't be that outdated. Not sure if this gives hope to Cons fans but seems strange they wouldn't touch on the shoe being nixed if Cons is, in fact, on the way out.
There no facts involved in this. Pure conjecture that Nike wants to offload Converse and thus would end its skate program with immediate effect
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Gerwer rocking adidas is all I need to see. To me Frank was the unofficial spokesman for cons.
Where was this posted?
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Gerwer rocking adidas is all I need to see. To me Frank was the unofficial spokesman for cons.
He’s skating Adidas in the post for the “Grimplenator” decks.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DYFX9SPlBzv/?igsh=MWV4dXlweHZqYnRqdA==
(https://i.postimg.cc/76ttT2YP/IMG-4308.jpg)
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Just listened to the Alexis Sablone episode of the Good Luck With That podcast and they discussed working on their next shoe with Cons. Not sure how long ago it was recorded but it was released 5/4 so can't be that outdated. Not sure if this gives hope to Cons fans but seems strange they wouldn't touch on the shoe being nixed if Cons is, in fact, on the way out.
All depends on what's in her contract. If they agreed to another shoe, they have to do it or possibly pay a penalty to Alexis. Either way, I hope she gets paid.
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Gerwer rocking adidas is all I need to see. To me Frank was the unofficial spokesman for cons.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DYFX9SPlBzv/?igsh=MWV4dXlweHZqYnRqdA==
(https://i.postimg.cc/76ttT2YP/IMG-4308.jpg)
Goddamn Frank is still ripping so hard!
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a liquid machine, indeed. 8)
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Just listened to the Alexis Sablone episode of the Good Luck With That podcast and they discussed working on their next shoe with Cons. Not sure how long ago it was recorded but it was released 5/4 so can't be that outdated. Not sure if this gives hope to Cons fans but seems strange they wouldn't touch on the shoe being nixed if Cons is, in fact, on the way out.
- Been in this industry long enough to know that no one knows anything until the day the "its over" call comes in. At this level it can be one bean counter's decision regardless of contracts and new shoes dropping.
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I wonder if Kaue Cossa got kicked off for end of contract or because he was canceled.
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They say he was expelled because he was canceled. (Kaue Cossa)
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No one wears cons thats the reason why.
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They say he was expelled because he was canceled. (Kaue Cossa)
Why did he get cancelled
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They say he was expelled because he was canceled. (Kaue Cossa)
He has been abusive towards women in the Brazilian scene for years, and recently got into a fight with a skater's stepfather at a famous spot, which was filmed. Women in the scene then exposed his sexist behavior towards them on Instagram.
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Milton and townley are out
Damn. How do u know?
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Could see Charles “Chuck” Taylor on Krooked
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Milton and townley are out
Motherfuckers just be sayin shit for no reason
(https://i.postimg.cc/4yqqCp72/IMG-1472.jpg)
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Just listened to the Alexis Sablone episode of the Good Luck With That podcast and they discussed working on their next shoe with Cons. Not sure how long ago it was recorded but it was released 5/4 so can't be that outdated. Not sure if this gives hope to Cons fans but seems strange they wouldn't touch on the shoe being nixed if Cons is, in fact, on the way out.
Did I miss something and Alexis went non-binary?
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Just listened to the Alexis Sablone episode of the Good Luck With That podcast and they discussed working on their next shoe with Cons. Not sure how long ago it was recorded but it was released 5/4 so can't be that outdated. Not sure if this gives hope to Cons fans but seems strange they wouldn't touch on the shoe being nixed if Cons is, in fact, on the way out.
Did I miss something and Alexis went non-binary?
Most style guides and grammarians accept singular use of "their" these days because English has no gender-neutral plural pronoun. This is something that has been debated about in the English language since well before the political battles about transgender people.
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Motherfuckers just be sayin shit for no reason
(https://i.postimg.cc/4yqqCp72/IMG-1472.jpg)
That’s this whole thread
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Fast break pro is one of my favorite shoes to skate. Noticing the options are dwindling for them. 😭
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Motherfuckers just be sayin shit for no reason
(https://i.postimg.cc/4yqqCp72/IMG-1472.jpg)
FIRST OF ALL,
take some respect,
the brand can still send you some shoes,not money,will see..
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Take some respect?
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Motherfuckers just be sayin shit for no reason
(https://i.postimg.cc/4yqqCp72/IMG-1472.jpg)
this packing job is giving me anxiety.
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pretty sure he wouldnt be that juiced on a box of shoes if he just lost his salary
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In Miltons story are those Chuck Taylor slip ons or Vans? Kinda hard to tell but I know some of you guys can id shoes with your eyes closed. Sorry it’s just a link, if someone can assist with a screenshot or recording.
https://www.instagram.com/stories/miltonmartinez/3906624175901462224?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=MTI3aG11dGI4Z2UwZQ==
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In Miltons story are those Chuck Taylor slip ons or Vans? Kinda hard to tell but I know some of you guys can id shoes with your eyes closed. Sorry it’s just a link, if someone can assist with a screenshot or recording.
https://www.instagram.com/stories/miltonmartinez/3906624175901462224?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=MTI3aG11dGI4Z2UwZQ==
those are chuck slip ons vans have less elastic
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Milton and townley are out
Motherfuckers just be sayin shit for no reason
(https://i.postimg.cc/4yqqCp72/IMG-1472.jpg)
this packing job is giving me anxiety.
He probably removed the bullshit paper, etc. inside before snappin the pic
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They sent me a box once and I can confirm there’s no paper. Milton lucky to even got the shoeboxes.
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So far this is turning out to be like the time everyone thought Nike was going under in 2021 because they kicked off noted A-Lister Clark Hassler.
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So far this is turning out to be like the time everyone thought Nike was going under in 2021 because they kicked off noted A-Lister Clark Hassler.
They still haven’t recovered from that
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So far this is turning out to be like the time everyone thought Nike was going under in 2021 because they kicked off noted A-Lister Clark Hassler.
And Yoshi
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I've been seeing a lot of weird CONS at Ross lately
https://imgur.com/a/dU6dwee
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I've been seeing a lot of weird CONS at Ross lately
https://imgur.com/a/dU6dwee
That green one seems like a very old pair. They haven’t done that lobster tag in like 15 years
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I've been seeing a lot of weird CONS at Ross lately
https://imgur.com/a/dU6dwee
Those grey ones look like they're made for Marshalls / Ross, like those Polo Assn shoes.
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Uncle frank in adi in the new spitfire vid...
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Just saw Gino in a FA board in asics last video.
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Motherfuckers just be sayin shit for no reason
(https://i.postimg.cc/4yqqCp72/IMG-1472.jpg)
this packing job is giving me anxiety.
He probably removed the bullshit paper, etc. inside before snappin the pic
This is how every brand ships shoes to skate shops. No exceptions. No one uses paper or other packing materials and sometimes they come out of the boxes.
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So far this is turning out to be like the time everyone thought Nike was going under in 2021 because they kicked off noted A-Lister Clark Hassler.
I fw Clark Hassler, and what he represented
He was a straight up middle of the road pro
The Everyman
Cooper wilt similar story
Dwindle would have been a good workplace, kept a lot of people going for a long time
I think there’s something to be said there, most of us on here would have our own careers in different industries
Probably none of us on here are like leading experts in our fields. We’re just in the middle. Like those guys. And that’s ok
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So far this is turning out to be like the time everyone thought Nike was going under in 2021 because they kicked off noted A-Lister Clark Hassler.
I fw Clark Hassler, and what he represented
He was a straight up middle of the road pro
The Everyman
Cooper wilt similar story
Dwindle would have been a good workplace, kept a lot of people going for a long time
I think there’s something to be said there, most of us on here would have our own careers in different industries
Probably none of us on here are like leading experts in our fields. We’re just in the middle. Like those guys. And that’s ok
not a lot of middle of the road pros can claim to have done a nollie fs heel sw 5-0
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Remember all those Pops and Trapasso’s we got for cheap…what’s insane is the shoes never got better…
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If anyone here is into basketball, SGA just signed with Nike. Definitely think Converse will be sold off soon and who knows what will happen to the skate program.
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If anyone here is into basketball, SGA just signed with Nike. Definitely think Converse will be sold off soon and who knows what will happen to the skate program.
Came here to post this, def a signifier of things to come
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So far this is turning out to be like the time everyone thought Nike was going under in 2021 because they kicked off noted A-Lister Clark Hassler.
I fw Clark Hassler, and what he represented
He was a straight up middle of the road pro
The Everyman
Cooper wilt similar story
Dwindle would have been a good workplace, kept a lot of people going for a long time
I think there’s something to be said there, most of us on here would have our own careers in different industries
Probably none of us on here are like leading experts in our fields. We’re just in the middle. Like those guys. And that’s ok
not a lot of middle of the road pros can claim to have done a nollie fs heel sw 5-0
That line is so good.
Clark was also asked to ride for Enjoi during the MJ era.
Marc picked him.
Remember all those Pops and Trapasso’s we got for cheap…what’s insane is the shoes never got better…
Those were the two best shoes Cons have made. I really wanted to make the LL2s work.
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If anyone here is into basketball, SGA just signed with Nike. Definitely think Converse will be sold off soon and who knows what will happen to the skate program.
His pro shoe flopped.
I'll show myself out.
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LinkedIn posting Nike CEO doing a speech at Converse HQ. Feels like rumours of Converse sold could be nothing.
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If anyone here is into basketball, SGA just signed with Nike. Definitely think Converse will be sold off soon and who knows what will happen to the skate program.
His pro shoe flopped.
I'll show myself out.
I actually liked the shoe, looked like a cross between Answer 4's and the last few Harden shoes. SGA is just so unwatchable, I doubt the shoe sold at all outside of Oklahoma.
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So far this is turning out to be like the time everyone thought Nike was going under in 2021 because they kicked off noted A-Lister Clark Hassler.
I fw Clark Hassler, and what he represented
He was a straight up middle of the road pro
The Everyman
Cooper wilt similar story
Dwindle would have been a good workplace, kept a lot of people going for a long time
I think there’s something to be said there, most of us on here would have our own careers in different industries
Probably none of us on here are like leading experts in our fields. We’re just in the middle. Like those guys. And that’s ok
not a lot of middle of the road pros can claim to have done a nollie fs heel sw 5-0
That line is so good.
Clark was also asked to ride for Enjoi during the MJ era.
Marc picked him.
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Remember all those Pops and Trapasso’s we got for cheap…what’s insane is the shoes never got better…
Those were the two best shoes Cons have made. I really wanted to make the LL2s work.
i actually am super into the LL2s, theyre extremely comfortable and look cool imo. i have the habanero colorway and get a lot of compliments on them whenever im out
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So far this is turning out to be like the time everyone thought Nike was going under in 2021 because they kicked off noted A-Lister Clark Hassler.
I fw Clark Hassler, and what he represented
He was a straight up middle of the road pro
The Everyman
Cooper wilt similar story
Dwindle would have been a good workplace, kept a lot of people going for a long time
I think there’s something to be said there, most of us on here would have our own careers in different industries
Probably none of us on here are like leading experts in our fields. We’re just in the middle. Like those guys. And that’s ok
not a lot of middle of the road pros can claim to have done a nollie fs heel sw 5-0
That line is so good.
Clark was also asked to ride for Enjoi during the MJ era.
Marc picked him.
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Remember all those Pops and Trapasso’s we got for cheap…what’s insane is the shoes never got better…
Those were the two best shoes Cons have made. I really wanted to make the LL2s work.
i actually am super into the LL2s, theyre extremely comfortable and look cool imo. i have the habanero colorway and get a lot of compliments on them whenever im out
I think they’re great too. Only issue is with the toe cap ending so abruptly that it looks a little shitty from the inside of the shoe, which is the part the wearer sees the most
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Nike should sell Converse to Moonstar, a japanese sneaker manufacturer. I believe moonstar might already be making converse made in japan sneakers based of this Rose Anvil comparison vid
http://youtu.be/hoKDfc-8IdA?is=7tKsOO-QlmKH4BzT
Only problem is that converse sneaker construction of “japanese caliber” would cost so much more money on top of tariffs
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So far this is turning out to be like the time everyone thought Nike was going under in 2021 because they kicked off noted A-Lister Clark Hassler.
I fw Clark Hassler, and what he represented
He was a straight up middle of the road pro
The Everyman
Cooper wilt similar story
Dwindle would have been a good workplace, kept a lot of people going for a long time
I think there’s something to be said there, most of us on here would have our own careers in different industries
Probably none of us on here are like leading experts in our fields. We’re just in the middle. Like those guys. And that’s ok
not a lot of middle of the road pros can claim to have done a nollie fs heel sw 5-0
I actually really like those guys and that sort of skating, I just meant like they’re not rail chompers nor were they doing huge sets of stairs
But yea was dumb thing to say like of course they stood out but they weren’t like superstars or anything
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My Clark Hassler point was more about how it should not have been surprising that Nike did not renew the contract of someone who has more or less been out of the public eye for twenty years. But instead people used that to affirm their unsubstantiated rumors about Nike instead of just admitting they were wrong about something.
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Idk, pretty good if you can get it?
Dwindle would have been sick back in the day man
I think they saw it going a long time ago and thought nah fuck it ride it down pay the workers for as long as we can. Everybody know the owners already had money
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I saw Louie Lopez yesterday and he was wearing a new colorway of his pro shoe. Like a very Animated Ninja Turtles, Green.
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SGA just moved from Converse Basketball to Nike. Looks like either Nike is really gearing up for that sale or some heavy restructuring.
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SGA just moved from Converse Basketball to Nike. Looks like either Nike is really gearing up for that sale or some heavy restructuring.
Converse basketball really didn't sponsor a lot of NBA athletes. I think there were 3 athletes total. Perhaps they could just get rid of the basketball program. SGA will sell more shoes when he has a Nike one.
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SGA just moved from Converse Basketball to Nike. Looks like either Nike is really gearing up for that sale or some heavy restructuring.
Converse basketball really didn't sponsor a lot of NBA athletes. I think there were 3 athletes total. Perhaps they could just get rid of the basketball program. SGA will sell more shoes when he has a Nike one.
They seem to get the itch to try it out again every so often. There was a time not too long ago they tried to have this Chuck Taylor inspired shoe (but way more tech and padded) in the attempt before SGA