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General Discussion => WHATEVER => Topic started by: Casey Jones on August 30, 2016, 11:58:18 AM
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What do you guys think of this?
Summary for those of you who are unaware: football player refused to salute the national anthem because he said he will not salute for a country that oppresses black people and minorities. Now everyone is fired up and saying he's un-american, an asshole, calling for him to be banned from football, or saying he should find another country.
In my opinion, he's entitled to say and do whatever the fuck he wants. People say that he disrespected people who have died for our country. To me, those people gave their lives for our right to criticize the country and say what we want to say without be persecuted. Yes, it was controversial, but not un-American. Un-American would be to be afraid to speak your mind publicly on a real issue without being forced away. It's not like he's saying he's going to kill people, or that people are going to hell, or whatever. He didn't even attack anyone. He just voiced his opinion on the state of this country.
This is a country, not a cult. You can be displeased with how it is structured. To the people who think he should move to another country: should women have moved to another country because they couldn't vote? Should blacks have moved to another country because they couldn't drink at the same drinking fountain as whites? No, you push for change. You share your voice. That's America, to me.
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If someone called me un-american I'd actually be pretty stoked ;D
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No issues with what he did/said.
People get waaaay too fuckin excited over the dumbest shit nowadays.
Also probably doesnt help that big media didnt share everything he said.
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Isn't part of being American that you're able to stand against things you disagree with or don't believe in?
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No issues with what he did/said.
People get waaaay too fuckin excited over the dumbest shit nowadays.
Also probably doesnt help that big media didnt share everything he said.
he criticized both trump and clinton but they barely mentioned it. they just wanted to turn it into a race-baiting issue for more clicks and controversy and anger.
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If someone called me un-american I'd actually be pretty stoked� ;D
Yea but you're the biggest limp wristed wiener on here, so of course you would.
I'm all for it though. He's not wrong and he has every right to do it. This is a local story for me, SF police officer's Union is demanding an apology and alameda county SO invited him for a ride along.
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Much better QBs out there, he is stupid for further decreasing his value.
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Anyone else find it fucking weird we (meaning American children) were required to "pledge allegiance" to the US every morning before school? Is that still a thing?
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If someone called me un-american I'd actually be pretty stoked� ;D
Yea but you're the biggest (http://limp wristed) wiener on here, so of course you would.
I'm all for it though. He's not wrong and he has every right to do it. This is a local story for me, SF police officer's Union is demanding an apology and alameda county SO invited him for a ride along.
Says the guy who dumped scalding hot coffee on a child's head, either you're the limp wrister or a sadistic maniac
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pro athletes and actors have huge egos. i'm guessing he was pulled over one time while driving his flashy car he bought with the 20 million dollars he is paid to throw a ball. it made him feel so oppressed. he went home and sat in his mansion and said....man this is fucking ridiculous the way they treat us black men in america. i have to do something about this
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No issues with what he did/said.
People get waaaay too fuckin excited over the dumbest shit nowadays.
Also probably doesnt help that big media didnt share everything he said.
he criticized both trump and clinton but they barely mentioned it. they just wanted to turn it into a race-baiting issue for more clicks and controversy and anger.
Yep thats what I was referring too.
Im not a fan of his but he certainly has the right to speak his mind. And I certainly wasnt offended by anything he said
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pro athletes and actors have huge egos. i'm guessing he was pulled over one time while driving his flashy car he bought with the 20 million dollars he is paid to throw a ball. it made him feel so oppressed. he went home and sat in his mansion and said....man this is fucking ridiculous the way they treat us black men in america. i have to do something about this
Dude, your country is fucked... and a lot of people want to make it even worse, do you not understand the concept altruism? The only reason people give a shit is because he's a rich pro athlete, if it was just another dude no one would care. So he uses his visibility to speak on something he believes in. Remember how Muhammed Ali got sent to prison for refusing to join the army, he was called un-american, now he's American legend and people salute him for taking a stand, same shit, albeit without the jail time.
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pro athletes and actors have huge egos. i'm guessing he was pulled over one time while driving his flashy car he bought with the 20 million dollars he is paid to throw a ball. it made him feel so oppressed. he went home and sat in his mansion and said....man this is fucking ridiculous the way they treat us black men in america. i have to do something about this
really tired of you outsiders commenting on our country when you are so misled by the media ::)
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pro athletes and actors have huge egos. i'm guessing he was pulled over one time while driving his flashy car he bought with the 20 million dollars he is paid to throw a ball. it made him feel so oppressed. he went home and sat in his mansion and said....man this is fucking ridiculous the way they treat us black men in america. i have to do something about this
Dude you said on here not too long ago that they should make protesting illegal... if anyone is misled it is you
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pro athletes and actors have huge egos. i'm guessing he was pulled over one time while driving his flashy car he bought with the 20 million dollars he is paid to throw a ball. it made him feel so oppressed. he went home and sat in his mansion and said....man this is fucking ridiculous the way they treat us black men in america. i have to do something about this
Yeah, pretty sure he was speaking out for other people, not himself. I would say he probably knows he's rich, and isn't sitting there complaining about his own life.
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this shouldn't have gotten a fraction of the attention that is has. you dont want to salute the flag? so what? this isnt news.
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If someone called me un-american I'd actually be pretty stoked� ;D
Yea but you're the biggest (http://limp wristed) wiener on here, so of course you would.
I'm all for it though. He's not wrong and he has every right to do it. This is a local story for me, SF police officer's Union is demanding an apology and alameda county SO invited him for a ride along.
Your pussy ass can't get the story right so stop. Keep acting like a eunuch.
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It's def a PR move. Don't you guys remember a year or two ago when he lost a game and was slinging racial slurs? Now he's for the people? His teammates have referred to him as "cancer" in the locker room. He has every right to sit during the anthem. He should he have? No. If your team stands you stand. Carmelo Anthony is all about civil rights yet he stands for the anthem during every game with his team and for his country. Also Carmelo Anthony does a lot for civil rights organizations. What is Kap doing besides not standing for the anthem on national television? I highly doubt he's doing anything. His form of protesting is childish.
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I'm down for what he did. Mainly because America is based on a bunch of fucking hypocrisy, so let them fools get angry over some dude voicing his opinion. Just because you don't pledge your allegiance to a country doesn't mean hes a Communist or a fucking ISIS bomber. Fuck what Americans think
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if he was in a punk band it would make him more money, being in the nfl and doing this makes you less money. it's not rocket science.
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pro athletes and actors have huge egos. i'm guessing he was pulled over one time while driving his flashy car he bought with the 20 million dollars he is paid to throw a ball. it made him feel so oppressed. he went home and sat in his mansion and said....man this is fucking ridiculous the way they treat us black men in america. i have to do something about this
Pretty Much this! Why did he wait till the national anthem to make public stance and not when the shit went down with those fucker killer cops.
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What he did was disgusting. I 100% defend his right to do it, but I find it disgraceful.
He has the right not to stand for the national anthem, and for that reason alone he should stand for the national anthem.
Welp, no one in my fantasy league is gonna want to pick him up now (not like they would have anyway)
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Who knew the Fox News contingent of slap was so large.
If you have a problem with this man not standing for the national anthem in protest, then you probably need to learn a little more about what freedom actually means.
This country is pretty fucking restrictive for the supposed bastion of freedom people claim it to be.
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Who knew the Fox News contingent of slap was so large.
If you have a problem with this man not standing for the national anthem in protest, then you probably need to learn a little more about what freedom actually means.
This country is pretty fucking restrictive for the supposed bastion of freedom people claim it to be.
Skaters on slap talking about conformity is like strippers talking about why Hilary Clinton does not wear dresses/ skirts anymore
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He has every right to not stand for the National Anthem but he's still an asshole. To me the act of standing for the National Anthem means you respect the sacrifices made by past veterans and current active duty service members who have given up their personal freedoms and/or lives to serve their country. If no one ever served in the military we wouldn't be here today having this discussion.
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if he was in a punk band it would make him more money, being in the nfl and doing this makes you less money. it's not rocket science.
He did it because the 9ers are about to cut him, the timing of this says it all. Gabbert will start
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He has every right to not stand for the National Anthem but he's still an asshole. To me the act of standing for the National Anthem means you respect the sacrifices made by past veterans and current active duty service members who have given up their personal freedoms and/or lives to serve their country. If no one ever served in the military we wouldn't be here today having this discussion.
It has absolutely nothing to do with veterans. If anything, the NFL using veterans as a promotional tool during half time is more offensive than a citizen exercising their 1st amendment rights.
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i like it when he throw the ball and then catch but also too when they hit so it's complicated
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it's the Dixie chicks all over again
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What he did was disgusting... Welp, no one in my fantasy league is gonna want to pick him up now
^Average American response.
People look at football as a religious sacrament in this country. You don't mess with football. And people like to get mad at things online.
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He has every right to not stand for the National Anthem but he's still an asshole. To me the act of standing for the National Anthem means you respect the sacrifices made by past veterans and current active duty service members who have given up their personal freedoms and/or lives to serve their country. If no one ever served in the military we wouldn't be here today having this discussion.
It has absolutely nothing to do with veterans. If anything, the NFL using veterans as a promotional tool during half time is more offensive than a citizen exercising their 1st amendment rights.
Really standing for the National Anthem has nothing to do with honoring your country and those that have served to protect it? Wow thats crazy. Thanks for the info dude!
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He has every right to not stand for the National Anthem but he's still an asshole. To me the act of standing for the National Anthem means you respect the sacrifices made by past veterans and current active duty service members who have given up their personal freedoms and/or lives to serve their country. If no one ever served in the military we wouldn't be here today having this discussion.
It has absolutely nothing to do with veterans. If anything, the NFL using veterans as a promotional tool during half time is more offensive than a citizen exercising their 1st amendment rights.
No, it really doesn't.
- A veteran.
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He has every right to not stand for the National Anthem but he's still an asshole. To me the act of standing for the National Anthem means you respect the sacrifices made by past veterans and current active duty service members who have given up their personal freedoms and/or lives to serve their country. If no one ever served in the military we wouldn't be here today having this discussion.
It has absolutely nothing to do with veterans. If anything, the NFL using veterans as a promotional tool during half time is more offensive than a citizen exercising their 1st amendment rights.
- A veteran.
i thought johnny 5 blew you up a couple months ago?
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I thought the flag represented all of us, glad so many have cleared this up for me. That could have been embarrassing am I right guys like I'm over here thinking the real problem is class/race injustice, but now I know the real problem is clear, it's the flag and who it does and does not represent
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i like it when he throw the ball and then catch but also too when they hit so it's complicated
I'm genuinely concerned that this post will not get the recognition it deserves in the midst of this trainwreck of a thread.
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You should stand up , be quiet , remove your hat for any national anthem playing out of respect
Might be his right to sit down , but still makes him a asshole and the NFL / 49 should kick him out.
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You should stand up , be quiet , remove your hat for any national anthem playing out of respect
Might be his right to sit down , but still makes him a asshole and the NFL / 49 should kick him out.
If every asshole was kicked out the NFL we wouldn't have a league
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Don't care about him or the NLF. It's getting way too much air time though.
It's just weird that white lives matter has to register as a hate group (which they are) but BLM is a activist movement when they tell white people to get to back of the march. Thats some Rosa Parks shit.
Also this is pretty spot on.
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Don't care about him or the NLF. It's getting way too much air time though.
It's just weird that white lives matter has to register as a hate group (which they are) but BLM is a activist movement when they tell white people to get to back of the march. Thats some Rosa Parks shit.
Also this is pretty spot on.
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i don't really know much about white lives matter, but from the little i've seen they look like they are just holding a mirror up to BLM. BLM allows any scumbag to join their group, and that's why they aren't respected. here they are marching for mike brown. they are mad mike didn't get to defend himself in court... tell his side of the story...yet a car accidentally hits a person standing in the middle of the road at night,and they instantly find the driver guilty, pull out their guns, and fire at the car returning to the scene of the accident. they decide to shoot up a second car just because they were confused. fucking idiots...BLM hypocrites will never be respected
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTL0gBcjNBc
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it's not his fault every sports fan is a serious fucking idiot
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nationalism is gross
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Don't care about him or the NLF. It's getting way too much air time though.
It's just weird that white lives matter has to register as a hate group (which they are) but BLM is a activist movement when they tell white people to get to back of the march. Thats some Rosa Parks shit.
Also this is pretty spot on.
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Not quite spot on. So who committed homicide in the league? If you are referring to Ray Lewis you couldn't be more wrong. Someone in his party(pretty sure it was his bouncer) killed someone. Love how people just pin it on him because he was there. Also are you forgetting Ray Rice? He was kicked out of the league and the Ravens terminated his contract. League is really strict on domestic violence now and has no tolerance for it. Two others have been banned since his incident. Do you know how many dudes have been banned from the league this year for drugs? I think you should do some research before agreeing with a dumb meme people keep sharing on Facebook.
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The Star Spangled Banner was written by a white supremacist who owned slaves and thought blacks were inferior. The 3rd verse is about slavery.
Why should a black person feel passionate about that song?
You can love America and still call out the bullshit that goes on as well.
Just like always when a black person attempts to speak up against racism, people try to distort the message, turn it into something that it's not, and completely gloss over the core issue.
It's hilarious seeing the racist who used "veterans dying for our country" to mask their racism get shut down last night by the #veteransforkaepernick hashtag on twitter by people who actually served / currently served support him and understand that they're actually fighting for his right to do this.
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Its a white dood that signs his cheques.
Kaepernick is still a slave, he just doesnt realize it.
Here today gone tomorrow. Hope he banked some money because the CFL pays like shit in comparison
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Don't care about him or the NLF. It's getting way too much air time though.
It's just weird that white lives matter has to register as a hate group (which they are) but BLM is a activist movement when they tell white people to get to back of the march. Thats some Rosa Parks shit.
Also this is pretty spot on.
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Not quite spot on. So who committed homicide in the league? If you are referring to Ray Lewis you couldn't be more wrong. Someone in his party(pretty sure it was his bouncer) killed someone. Love how people just pin it on him because he was there. Also are you forgetting Ray Rice? He was kicked out of the league and the Ravens terminated his contract. League is really strict on domestic violence now and has no tolerance for it. Two others have been banned since his incident. Do you know how many dudes have been banned from the league this year for drugs? I think you should do some research before agreeing with a dumb meme people keep sharing on Facebook.
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Everyone bashing Kaepernick needs to shut the fuck up. There's more problems in the world than a fucking football player not giving a shit for his country.
Fuck this is why America is so fucking dumb. Pay attention to fucking sports and guns and Kardashian/Jenners but not give a fuck that a racist business fuckboy may become president. Shit like that. Fuck them.
No wonder Kaepernick didn't stand up. I back him (even though I could care less about his career and the sport itself). He's not an asshole. He's speaking his mind. Who the fuck cares!?
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Don't care about him or the NLF. It's getting way too much air time though.
It's just weird that white lives matter has to register as a hate group (which they are) but BLM is a activist movement when they tell white people to get to back of the march. Thats some Rosa Parks shit.
Also this is pretty spot on.
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Not quite spot on. So who committed homicide in the league? If you are referring to Ray Lewis you couldn't be more wrong. Someone in his party(pretty sure it was his bouncer) killed someone. Love how people just pin it on him because he was there. Also are you forgetting Ray Rice? He was kicked out of the league and the Ravens terminated his contract. League is really strict on domestic violence now and has no tolerance for it. Two others have been banned since his incident. Do you know how many dudes have been banned from the league this year for drugs? I think you should do some research before agreeing with a dumb meme people keep sharing on Facebook.
the nfl has an atrocious record re: violence & drugs. no one has been banned from the nfl since 1947. they only created a zero tolerance policy because the ray rice footage was leaked. he wasn't kicked out; his punishment was indefinite suspension that got overturned. same for adrian peterson. their punishments are bullshit. even plaxico burress was welcomed back into the league with open arms.
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Don't care about him or the NLF. It's getting way too much air time though.
It's just weird that white lives matter has to register as a hate group (which they are) but BLM is a activist movement when they tell white people to get to back of the march. Thats some Rosa Parks shit.
Also this is pretty spot on.
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Not quite spot on. So who committed homicide in the league? If you are referring to Ray Lewis you couldn't be more wrong. Someone in his party(pretty sure it was his bouncer) killed someone. Love how people just pin it on him because he was there. Also are you forgetting Ray Rice? He was kicked out of the league and the Ravens terminated his contract. League is really strict on domestic violence now and has no tolerance for it. Two others have been banned since his incident. Do you know how many dudes have been banned from the league this year for drugs? I think you should do some research before agreeing with a dumb meme people keep sharing on Facebook.
the nfl has an atrocious record re: violence & drugs. no one has been banned from the nfl since 1947. they only created a zero tolerance policy because the ray rice footage was leaked. he wasn't kicked out; his punishment was indefinite suspension that got overturned. same for adrian peterson. their punishments are bullshit. even plaxico burress was welcomed back into the league with open arms.
Even though Ray Rice was overturned his career is over. No team will take him. So the indefinite suspension basically stuck. Adrian Peterson though? So what a dude hit his kid. Is parenting illegal now?
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Don't care about him or the NLF. It's getting way too much air time though.
It's just weird that white lives matter has to register as a hate group (which they are) but BLM is a activist movement when they tell white people to get to back of the march. Thats some Rosa Parks shit.
Also this is pretty spot on.
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Not quite spot on. So who committed homicide in the league? If you are referring to Ray Lewis you couldn't be more wrong. Someone in his party(pretty sure it was his bouncer) killed someone. Love how people just pin it on him because he was there. Also are you forgetting Ray Rice? He was kicked out of the league and the Ravens terminated his contract. League is really strict on domestic violence now and has no tolerance for it. Two others have been banned since his incident. Do you know how many dudes have been banned from the league this year for drugs? I think you should do some research before agreeing with a dumb meme people keep sharing on Facebook.
the nfl has an atrocious record re: violence & drugs. no one has been banned from the nfl since 1947. they only created a zero tolerance policy because the ray rice footage was leaked. he wasn't kicked out; his punishment was indefinite suspension that got overturned. same for adrian peterson. their punishments are bullshit. even plaxico burress was welcomed back into the league with open arms.
Even though Ray Rice was overturned his career is over. No team will take him. So the indefinite suspension basically stuck. Adrian Peterson though? So what a dude hit his kid. Is parenting illegal now?
Really?
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Anyone else find it fucking weird we (meaning American children) were required to "pledge allegiance" to the US every morning before school? Is that still a thing?
i dont remember having to do it until after 9-11-01 attacks. went to high school in Los Angeles, dont know if region plays a part on patriotism
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You should stand up , be quiet , remove your hat for any national anthem playing out of respect
Might be his right to sit down , but still makes him a asshole and the NFL / 49 should kick him out.
looking forward to you standing in respect for the ISIS anthem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9g2szHsoz0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9g2szHsoz0#)
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Don't care about him or the NLF. It's getting way too much air time though.
It's just weird that white lives matter has to register as a hate group (which they are) but BLM is a activist movement when they tell white people to get to back of the march. Thats some Rosa Parks shit.
Also this is pretty spot on.
(http://i64.tinypic.com/25hl5e0.jpg)
Not quite spot on. So who committed homicide in the league? If you are referring to Ray Lewis you couldn't be more wrong. Someone in his party(pretty sure it was his bouncer) killed someone. Love how people just pin it on him because he was there. Also are you forgetting Ray Rice? He was kicked out of the league and the Ravens terminated his contract. League is really strict on domestic violence now and has no tolerance for it. Two others have been banned since his incident. Do you know how many dudes have been banned from the league this year for drugs? I think you should do some research before agreeing with a dumb meme people keep sharing on Facebook.
the nfl has an atrocious record re: violence & drugs. no one has been banned from the nfl since 1947. they only created a zero tolerance policy because the ray rice footage was leaked. he wasn't kicked out; his punishment was indefinite suspension that got overturned. same for adrian peterson. their punishments are bullshit. even plaxico burress was welcomed back into the league with open arms.
Pretty sure Aaron Hernandez had a pretty gnarly rap sheet before he even entered the NFL (including attempted murder). Wonder if this raised any red flags with patriots. Just kidding, we all know the answer.
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The Star Spangled Banner was written by a white supremacist who owned slaves and thought blacks were inferior. The 3rd verse is about slavery.
Why should a black person feel passionate about that song?
You can love America and still call out the bullshit that goes on as well.
Just like always when a black person attempts to speak up against racism, people try to distort the message, turn it into something that it's not, and completely gloss over the core issue.
It's hilarious seeing the racist who used "veterans dying for our country" to mask their racism get shut down last night by the #veteransforkaepernick hashtag on twitter by people who actually served / currently served support him and understand that they're actually fighting for his right to do this.
Since conservatives seem to like glossing over things and read but so many words in a post i bolded the main points..
I back Kaepernick he has everything to lose. People more upset about what he did and not why he did it obviously dont experience or often even benefit from inequality/class-ism. This county is a great place but has a culture that profits by sweeping things under the rug and playing dirty to get ahead. Hypocrisy is real, its good to see more and more hard working Americans of all races/status tired of it everyday.
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Don't care about him or the NLF. It's getting way too much air time though.
It's just weird that white lives matter has to register as a hate group (which they are) but BLM is a activist movement when they tell white people to get to back of the march. Thats some Rosa Parks shit.
Also this is pretty spot on.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTL0gBcjNBc
White Lives Matter is run by white supremacists.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/08/31/splc-the-much-cited-designator-of-hate-groups-explains-why-white-lives-matter-is-one/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/08/31/splc-the-much-cited-designator-of-hate-groups-explains-why-white-lives-matter-is-one/)
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You should stand up , be quiet , remove your hat for any national anthem playing out of respect
Might be his right to sit down , but still makes him a asshole and the NFL / 49 should kick him out.
looking forward to you standing in respect for the ISIS anthem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9g2szHsoz0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9g2szHsoz0#)
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The way I see it is: people are offended that someone is expressing beliefs that do not match theirs. We brag about our freedom of speech but patronize people when they express opposing viewpoints. His decision not to stand did not harm anyone. No one was physically hurt and he did not break any law. People get offended so easily.
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You should stand up , be quiet , remove your hat for any national anthem playing out of respect
Might be his right to sit down , but still makes him a asshole and the NFL / 49 should kick him out.
what's this we business?
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You should stand up , be quiet , remove your hat for any national anthem playing out of respect
Might be his right to sit down , but still makes him a asshole and the NFL / 49 should kick him out.
looking forward to you standing in respect for the ISIS anthem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9g2szHsoz0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9g2szHsoz0#)
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I already do and so Do most people . Saudi Arabia , Iran , Iraq ,Yemen , Lebanon ,United Arab Emirates , Egypt , Libya, Somalia, Syria
Did I miss anyone ?
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You should stand up , be quiet , remove your hat for any national anthem playing out of respect
Might be his right to sit down , but still makes him a asshole and the NFL / 49 should kick him out.
what's this we business?
I would not miss football at all. I'm sick of seeing/hearing people talking "did you hear that ____________ got traded to the ___________?"
or "yeah _________'s throw is good, and the linebacker is doing well this season". All that bullshit
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You should stand up , be quiet , remove your hat for any national anthem playing out of respect
Might be his right to sit down , but still makes him a asshole and the NFL / 49 should kick him out.
what's this we business?
I would not miss football at all. I'm sick of seeing/hearing people talking "did you hear that ____________ got traded to the ___________?"
or "yeah _________'s throw is good, and the linebacker is doing well this season". All that bullshit
LOL.
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You should stand up , be quiet , remove your hat for any national anthem playing out of respect
Might be his right to sit down , but still makes him a asshole and the NFL / 49 should kick him out.
looking forward to you standing in respect for the ISIS anthem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9g2szHsoz0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9g2szHsoz0#)
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I don't think he's wrong to protest, I just think he did it with far too much passive aggression and inefficiency. Here in SF there's been a handful of police brutality murders over the past few years, and as a representative of
SF Santa Clara/ Bay area he could've used his fame and presence to speak out during all of the strikes and protests here around the city during the summer at the very least. I dunno, I kinda think everyone's bugging out too hard over this. I see why it's disrespectful to the older citizens of the country but with all of the shit thats been happening this year alone no one should be surprised that an NFL star decided to stand up for it... or in this case, sit down.
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I wonder what event would make him down for the anthem again. Ten years with statistical drop in police brutality against minorities?
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National anthem is gay.
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I have come to the conclusion that majority of people who are extremely upset that some football player didn't stand for the national anthem are either
A. Voting for Trump
B. Never been in the army
C. Have small dicks
^Posted that on instagram the other day but had no idea this thread existed, glad my theory is still right
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Sports...
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I did not expect this many people to support his actions. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I'm really surprised he has so much backing.
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I did not expect this many people to support his actions. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I'm really surprised he has so much backing.
No a lot of us just don't give a shit
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Sports...
Sports! | Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job! | Adult Swim (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7u9hP4r1S8#)
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nationalism is gross
This.
I've only been to the states once, mostly visiting NGOs in north philly. To this day I am shocked how a country thinks it's okay to push minorities into such poverty. The nationalism might work as a drug to look away from things that sucks - and no one can tell me that a ghetto, racial police crime and the high gap between poor and rich is something to defend.
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There was a hilarious post on some sports site comparing Kapernick and Russel Wilson's Insta posts.
Russel- Posing with his wife and two kids, running his charity, visiting the Seattle children's hospital, signing autographs for kids, etc.
Kap's looked like a bad rap video- In the club with his shirt off and a bottle, kneeling down next to some ridiculous car (TK style), showing off his house, posing with hot, slutty looking girls at said club, wearing much stupid jewelry, etc.
Both young with tons of money, just different guys, I suppose.
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you mean two different PR teams, i suppose
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I think most people are full of shit with the veteran stuff and are just uncomfortable with unpopular opinions. If people really cared about the veterans Trump nor Clinton would be their party candidates.
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This.
I've only been to the states once, mostly visiting NGOs in north philly. To this day I am shocked how a country thinks it's okay to push minorities into such poverty. The nationalism might work as a drug to look away from things that sucks - and no one can tell me that a ghetto, racial police crime and the high gap between poor and rich is something to defend.
so you two must be citizens of no where land. thats cool. outstanding patriots you guys are.
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I've only been to the states once, mostly visiting NGOs in north philly. To this day I am shocked how a country thinks it's okay to push minorities into such poverty. The nationalism might work as a drug to look away from things that sucks - and no one can tell me that a ghetto, racial police crime and the high gap between poor and rich is something to defend.
(http://handheldpyrometer.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/courage-the-cowardly-dog-middle-of-nowhere-tumblr-m45humcsdd1r2rxxlo1-500.jpg)
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This.
I've only been to the states once, mostly visiting NGOs in north philly. To this day I am shocked how a country thinks it's okay to push minorities into such poverty. The nationalism might work as a drug to look away from things that sucks - and no one can tell me that a ghetto, racial police crime and the high gap between poor and rich is something to defend.
a patriot? for which country?
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This.
I've only been to the states once, mostly visiting NGOs in north philly. To this day I am shocked how a country thinks it's okay to push minorities into such poverty. The nationalism might work as a drug to look away from things that sucks - and no one can tell me that a ghetto, racial police crime and the high gap between poor and rich is something to defend.
a patriot? for which country?
Matze if you are at a sporting event and Canada vs Germany is playing . You dont stand up for the national anthem ? of either countries ?
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This.
I've only been to the states once, mostly visiting NGOs in north philly. To this day I am shocked how a country thinks it's okay to push minorities into such poverty. The nationalism might work as a drug to look away from things that sucks - and no one can tell me that a ghetto, racial police crime and the high gap between poor and rich is something to defend.
a patriot? for which country?
Matze if you are at a sporting event and Canada vs Germany is playing . You dont stand up for the national anthem ? of either countries ?
being a sports patriot is something different, I guess. I don't stand up for the anthem but I'm always cheering for the german team. anyway, that's not what ohhhhyesss meant.
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why the fuck would you have to stand up for anyones national anthem? and why would anyone care whether you do or not? i guess its easier to bitch about that than actually facing problems. the world is a weird place.
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Matze if you are at a sporting event and Canada vs Germany is playing . You dont stand up for the national anthem ? of either countries ?
being a sports patriot is something different, I guess. I don't stand up for the anthem but I'm always cheering for the german team. anyway, that's not what ohhhhyesss meant.
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I was not pointing to ohhhyess post . Just wanted to know your stance . Kaepernick is doing this at a sports event so it should mesh in with your view of being a sports patriot. I dont understand the point of always cheering on the german team no matter what but not respecting the flag at said sporting event. Kinda like Im not gonna stand up for the anthem or flag of the country I was born in but Im gonna support the team representing your country
why the fuck would you have to stand up for anyones national anthem? and why would anyone care whether you do or not? i guess its easier to bitch about that than actually facing problems. the world is a weird place.
How about respect ?
1:During the Olympics Brazilians were booing other countries during the national anthems , flag raising and podiums . Do you think that is ok ?
2:What about that Egypt Judoka that didnt shake hands after being beaten by a Israeli Judoka . Is that ok ?
3:Do you think flag flag desecration is ok ?. For example Burning the flag of your or another country
4: Skating churches/Synagogues/ Mosques ? . Or lets say graffiti a churches/Synagogues/ Mosques ? .
5:desecration of grave stones or somebodies grave
I think those 5 are good examples of respect and tradition. Technically those 4 does not really do any bodily harm to anyone but all 4 are very disrespectful
Is Kaepernick really making things change ? are cops going to go " I was going to shoot this black guy and plant evidence on him but then I rememberd that 49ers QB sat on a bench during the national anthem so Im not gonna kill him "
Shame we cant sit at a bar and have this discussion but oh well =(
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european slap pals, do they play the country's national anthem for EVERY single domestic football (soccer) league match in your country? not talking about international matches but like premier league, bundesliga, la liga, etc? and not just a tournament final like the F.A. Cup.
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Matze if you are at a sporting event and Canada vs Germany is playing . You dont stand up for the national anthem ? of either countries ?
being a sports patriot is something different, I guess. I don't stand up for the anthem but I'm always cheering for the german team. anyway, that's not what ohhhhyesss meant.
I was not pointing to ohhhyess post . Just wanted to know your stance . Kaepernick is doing this at a sports event so it should mesh in with your view of being a sports patriot. I dont understand the point of always cheering on the german team no matter what but not respecting the flag at said sporting event. Kinda like Im not gonna stand up for the anthem or flag of the country I was born in but Im gonna support the team representing your country
why the fuck would you have to stand up for anyones national anthem? and why would anyone care whether you do or not? i guess its easier to bitch about that than actually facing problems. the world is a weird place.
How about respect ?
1:During the Olympics Brazilians were booing other countries during the national anthems , flag raising and podiums . Do you think that is ok ?
2:What about that Egypt Judoka that didnt shake hands after being beaten by a Israeli Judoka . Is that ok ?
3:Do you think flag flag desecration is ok ?. For example Burning the flag of your or another country
4: Skating churches/Synagogues/ Mosques ? . Or lets say graffiti a churches/Synagogues/ Mosques ? .
5:desecration of grave stones or somebodies grave
I think those 5 are good examples of respect and tradition. Technically those 4 does not really do any bodily harm to anyone but all 4 are very disrespectful
Is Kaepernick really making things change ? are cops going to go " I was going to shoot this black guy and plant evidence on him but then I rememberd that 49ers QB sat on a bench during the national anthem so Im not gonna kill him "
Shame we cant sit at a bar and have this discussion but oh well =(
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Quotes fucked up, but my comment starts here:
Lot's of people here in Canada support European/African teams from the places of their birth even 2nd 3rd generations etc. during tournaments, but will say they left the country because it was fucked and they don't want to go back.
And why, would you even think anyone would think that? why even mention such a bizarre scenario?, If you want to show you aren't down with something, then show it. Doesn't matter if it changes the world or not, maybe he just is keepin it real?
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Is Kaepernick really making things change ? are cops going to go " I was going to shoot this black guy and plant evidence on him but then I rememberd that 49ers QB sat on a bench during the national anthem so Im not gonna kill him "
(http://fansided.com/files/2014/10/aaron-lynch-colin-kaepernick-nfl-philadelphia-eagles-san-francisco-49ers.jpg)
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monty
1:During the Olympics Brazilians were booing other countries during the national anthems , flag raising and podiums . Do you think that is ok ?
yes, host country crowds are often rowdy.
2:What about that Egypt Judoka that didnt shake hands after being beaten by a Israeli Judoka . Is that ok ?
nationalism is gross, but we must also respect the fact that some nationalities don't get along.
3:Do you think flag flag desecration is ok ?. For example Burning the flag of your or another country
yes, its freedom of speech. you know, like sitting down during the national anthem
4: Skating churches/Synagogues/ Mosques ? . Or lets say graffiti a churches/Synagogues/ Mosques ? .
vandalism is not chill. this is off topic. stay on topic.
5:desecration of grave stones or somebodies grave
vandalism is not chill. this is off topic. stay on topic.
I think those 5 are good examples of respect and tradition. Technically those 4 does not really do any bodily harm to anyone but all 4 are very disrespectful
Is Kaepernick really making things change ? are cops going to go " I was going to shoot this black guy and plant evidence on him but then I rememberd that 49ers QB sat on a bench during the national anthem so Im not gonna kill him "
Shame we cant sit at a bar and have this discussion but oh well =(
it's not a matter of kapernick changing the world. it's one person taking a stand on a big stage. you talked about tradition, but tradition is often times the biggest roadblock in the path of progression.
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monty
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3:Do you think flag flag desecration is ok ?. For example Burning the flag of your or another country
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4: Skating churches/Synagogues/ Mosques ? . Or lets say graffiti a churches/Synagogues/ Mosques ? .
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5:desecration of grave stones or somebodies grave
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I think those 5 are good examples of respect and tradition. Technically those 4 does not really do any bodily harm to anyone but all 4 are very disrespectful
Is Kaepernick really making things change ? are cops going to go " I was going to shoot this black guy and plant evidence on him but then I rememberd that 49ers QB sat on a bench during the national anthem so Im not gonna kill him "
Shame we cant sit at a bar and have this discussion but oh well =(
it's not a matter of kapernick changing the world. it's one person taking a stand on a big stage. you talked about tradition, but tradition is often times the biggest roadblock in the path of progression.
now we can /thread