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Title: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: JAesop on October 30, 2016, 05:34:05 AM
Supposed to be 25% thinner, 200% stronger, 10% lighter and blah blah blah. 79.95 on So Cal site. Anybody know anything about these? From the pics it just looks like carbon fiber over wood kind of like the Tum Yeto / fiber lam decks. I' ll post a pic here in a minute.

(http://i68.tinypic.com/1610xll.jpg)

Does look thin.
(http://i63.tinypic.com/igi346.jpg)
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: j....soy..... on October 30, 2016, 07:57:07 AM
I stood on one and it was trippy.....felt like wood....5 plies...not sure if there's anything else in there.....

Surprised how normal it felt but obviously lighter....concave felt really good and it felt stiff and snappy too.....

Unless it lasts twice as long might be a tough sell....good to see Powell trying though for sure....
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on October 30, 2016, 09:05:17 AM
looks like some libtech junk.
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: Xen on October 31, 2016, 07:21:19 AM
I'm bummed they didn't call it Boneite 2.0!

Could be fun to try but the price tag is going to limit sales and it's longevity in the market. Not sure whom they are targeting.

P2s and Impacts are already $60+ and offer the same thing (well P2s do).

This deck, some Thunder TIs....
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on October 31, 2016, 05:12:35 PM
I'm bummed they didn't call it Boneite 2.0!
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: yourfuckingdad on November 01, 2016, 02:11:47 AM
Doubt it last much longer than normal decks. Skateboard manufacturers realized long ago it's bad for business to make durable skateboards.
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: Deucifer on November 01, 2016, 08:56:15 AM
my buddy is trying one out and I took a lil spin, felt extremely stiff. The shape was a lot better than any powell popsicle I've seen but still not what I like to skate. He's backin it so far and likes to get his huck on so we'll see how it holds up
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: Main on November 01, 2016, 09:00:25 AM
I'd try one if they made blanks. The graphic sucks.
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on November 02, 2016, 12:00:33 AM
Doubt it last much longer than normal decks. Skateboard manufacturers realized long ago it's bad for business to make durable skateboards.

Maybe it does, but with tech boards razor tail is never really accounted for.
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: yourfuckingdad on November 02, 2016, 01:07:15 AM
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Doubt it last much longer than normal decks. Skateboard manufacturers realized long ago it's bad for business to make durable skateboards.
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Maybe it does, but with tech boards razor tail is never really accounted for.

Yeah... using good wood pushes the profit margins too low.
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: rob on November 02, 2016, 01:30:16 AM
woah looks cool, but idk i feel like as long as your doing things like deluxe using good wood, good glue and good shapes theres no need for tech construction like p2 or impact plus but thats just me

i know these things are good for those jumpers

i was watching that nigel alexander/nka interview tj rogers while setting up a board and tj said that the impact boards are so good certain brands or pros come to the dwindle office to screen theyre stuff on the impact boards, i wonder who :o ;D

whos mainstream and pro for powell anymore though? didnt they drop theyre street team cause of financial issues and thats why hoff went to stereo
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: JAesop on November 02, 2016, 05:09:58 AM
woah looks cool, but idk i feel like as long as your doing things like deluxe using good wood, good glue and good shapes theres no need for tech construction like p2 or impact plus but thats just me

i know these things are good for those jumpers

i was watching that nigel alexander/nka interview tj rogers while setting up a board and tj said that the impact boards are so good certain brands or pros come to the dwindle office to screen theyre stuff on the impact boards, i wonder who :o ;D

whos mainstream and pro for powell anymore though? didnt they drop theyre street team cause of financial issues and thats why hoff went to stereo


I don't know how mainstream but Brad McClain and Ben Hatchell decks due any minute now.
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: j....soy..... on November 02, 2016, 04:30:40 PM
Yeah, I do think if all the pros started to ride better decks....skaters would follow.....Id definitely have a better chance of nollie flipping this board versus some soggy dead board....
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: Aatila on November 04, 2016, 12:24:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8xp6v7buxU
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: Xen on November 04, 2016, 12:49:57 PM
Setup an 8.5", it actually measures 8.38 across the front and in typical PP fashion, 8.25 across the rear (it has the wheelbase I've been chasing ;)

It's thin but feels dense (like the opposite of some brands that are thick but have that hollow feel to them, like NHS)
It's stiff, yet has flex
It's light, yet heavier than an 8.375 Creature P2 (both with mob-m80) - yes, on a scale...
Medium kick/concave

It has a football shape (not the 90s kind), the nose and tail tapers seem to start right at the kick - kind reminds of a Kayo but slightly less pointy.

First skate was fucking weird, man. You think it's going to break...

Ollies are snappy as hell
flips feel great/easier .seriously.
bowls feel a bit odd at first - it just feels thin standing on it
landing ollies or jumping off stuff...it feels fragile (mentally) but I'm not hucking my shit off 20 sets.

Tried it with indy ti and thunder ti / big wheels and small thin wheels; the thunder ti with slim wheels is a crazy ride.

Highly doubt anyone with a manual game would want to own this as I can only imagine razor tailing in a matter of days; hell impossibles and tre-flip practice are already showing pretty hardcore and I've only put a few hours on it.

Neat, if anything.
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: Iceman on November 04, 2016, 02:26:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8xp6v7buxU
FLIGHT decks are:

Thinner - as thin as your phone
Lighter than a similar sized 7-ply
Stronger - more than twice as strong in our tail break tests
Longer lasting - The epoxy infused, fiber reinforced structure of the Flight deck is extremely resistant to breaking, and this structure gives Flight decks "everlasting pop" that doesn't fade as your Flight deck slowly wears.
Ollies higher because of greater rebound and snap.
Team testing suggests that Flight decks will last several times as long as a 7-ply, making them a great value as well as a superior performing skateboard.


sounds too good to be true.
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: Tracer on November 04, 2016, 05:24:15 PM
Another dumb gimmick

Land bolts and your problems are solved

Might buy one
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: Tyson on November 04, 2016, 06:15:49 PM
woah looks cool, but idk i feel like as long as your doing things like deluxe using good wood, good glue and good shapes theres no need for tech construction like p2 or impact plus but thats just me

i know these things are good for those jumpers

i was watching that nigel alexander/nka interview tj rogers while setting up a board and tj said that the impact boards are so good certain brands or pros come to the dwindle office to screen theyre stuff on the impact boards, i wonder who :o ;D

whos mainstream and pro for powell anymore though? didnt they drop theyre street team cause of financial issues and thats why hoff went to stereo

Charlie Blair and Eddie "Mighty" Moreno are Powell's only pros at the moment.
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: j....soy..... on November 04, 2016, 11:54:28 PM
Another dumb gimmick

Land bolts and your problems are solved

Might buy one

Lemme guess.....you still play with a wooden stick too....
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: able on November 05, 2016, 12:15:13 AM
Setup an 8.5", it actually measures 8.38 across the front and in typical PP fashion, 8.25 across the rear (it has the wheelbase I've been chasing ;)

It's thin but feels dense (like the opposite of some brands that are thick but have that hollow feel to them, like NHS)
It's stiff, yet has flex
It's light, yet heavier than an 8.375 Creature P2 (both with mob-m80) - yes, on a scale...
Medium kick/concave

It has a football shape (not the 90s kind), the nose and tail tapers seem to start right at the kick - kind reminds of a Kayo but slightly less pointy.

First skate was fucking weird, man. You think it's going to break...

Ollies are snappy as hell
flips feel great/easier .seriously.
bowls feel a bit odd at first - it just feels thin standing on it
landing ollies or jumping off stuff...it feels fragile (mentally) but I'm not hucking my shit off 20 sets.

Tried it with indy ti and thunder ti / big wheels and small thin wheels; the thunder ti with slim wheels is a crazy ride.

Highly doubt anyone with a manual game would want to own this as I can only imagine razor tailing in a matter of days; hell impossibles and tre-flip practice are already showing pretty hardcore and I've only put a few hours on it.

Neat, if anything.
I appreciate the review. The claims Powell made sounded pretty cool but I was wondering about the "razor tail factor" considering that the board is so thin. For a guy who usually skates a board until the tail gets sharp, the idea of that razor tailing happening faster is a bummer. I'm still infatuated with how light the boards are though. I've wasted $80 on more frivolous things in my life, so who knows...
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: TwisT on November 05, 2016, 06:23:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8xp6v7buxU
those mini logo trucks not breaking under pressure
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: Xen on November 05, 2016, 06:44:38 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8xp6v7buxU
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those mini logo trucks not breaking under pressure

Right? When the rear wheel rolled over it I thought for sure that kingpin would pop.
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: 20matar on November 05, 2016, 07:44:33 PM
Another dumb gimmick

Land bolts and your problems are

solved. Might buy one

Nice haiku, tracer.
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: Deucifer on November 10, 2016, 04:15:03 PM
Skate Warehouse has em, plus a 20% off sale if you wanna try one out.

http://www.skatewarehouse.com/Powell_Skateboard_Decks/catpage-DKPOWELL.html (http://www.skatewarehouse.com/Powell_Skateboard_Decks/catpage-DKPOWELL.html)
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: Xen on November 19, 2016, 03:35:22 PM
Put some more hours on it and the more I skate it the more I like everything about it but the shape.
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: j....soy..... on November 19, 2016, 06:59:19 PM
What about it do you like?
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: Xen on November 19, 2016, 07:38:58 PM
What about it do you like?

It's light
It''s rigid
It's REALLY poppy
Great WB @14.375

Tail is fine, it's the nose. It's hard to describe but right as the curve starts near the nose tip it makes an abrupt curve to finish off, there is also a funky thing going on right at the kick; bunch of us were talking about this very thing today, nobody liked the shape past the front truck.

I can't post images anymore from google for some reason..

https://goo.gl/photos/

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/uQkJUFVmggvs3fOoBDejJ7sq1b12M2Zt3_gSDHZEd-nZhf7ok62qm1s-xwKpHi5X0b9SaD4RmACMqC7Q5GqkYcJugpmhBdAibh3XRqDuxRa7OUjJYJ6m8ngggVhmYOGisKhwMLH77eUETuLu3HWlU_ApAQlvv2H4vVMEMR5SZW0QkOMNy32yBH3razw0uSv4vjs0Gg5ba5-lndyG0SBv69qpnurcgLInivCpIj1nqou2KcH-x80D9znwV9C6onIJWGm8ses1UbIc6Swq_4FvDu1DJeeAcnSoq_jd7l2Cai2OscQAJmo2g8HS_MJgUFSt7BXXYKZNPSrG5qGolLFMBVV3l_g55p0QHbopjqTSXJcnrqXqV4jfQevrVrUtBX8Kgtffl0qQldJep6CzJ1I8cNCu8n059EAeRFDsI98s56-4nsC7y4LnNmQ16kwp_6gngK0I3QIZVZnnGgT46Ni6g3VmZZNUTbgz92CjHp4gUl-vPjyjoskPJENVR3bL8DVYkoAXn7S7MOI3j3sep5fDown6UW_fQHOAepaJEGj_hpWAqS-QkPrfH7v5Zi_SxBvODYbk9hfbo4YvXfYHjIUyBvTzjYt8H7jGswQCVBBmwerYNeR10w=w1095-h1935-no)
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: j....soy..... on November 20, 2016, 12:13:34 AM
Yeah the one I tried felt really springy....

How's it wearing?
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: johnes on November 20, 2016, 09:01:29 AM
Woah! saw this thread and just got a flash back to a dream from last night where i saw someone talking about how they broke one of these on their first trick.
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on November 20, 2016, 09:27:38 AM
I wouldn't ride one.
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: pointandclick on November 20, 2016, 10:21:56 AM
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What about it do you like?
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It's light
It''s rigid
It's REALLY poppy
Great WB @14.375

Tail is fine, it's the nose. It's hard to describe but right as the curve starts near the nose tip it makes an abrupt curve to finish off, there is also a funky thing going on right at the kick; bunch of us were talking about this very thing today, nobody liked the shape past the front truck.

I can't post images anymore from google for some reason..

https://goo.gl/photos/

the other shape they do looks much better.
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: Xen on November 20, 2016, 10:51:58 AM
Yeah the one I tried felt really springy....

How's it wearing?

No noticeable difference in wear compared to anything else out there...I've been trying not to manual (as I suck at them) and would only destroy it that way with only 5plys.
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: j....soy..... on November 20, 2016, 11:43:32 AM
Yeah, it's suppose to last longer too.....

Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: Xen on November 20, 2016, 10:27:03 PM
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What about it do you like?
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It's light
It''s rigid
It's REALLY poppy
Great WB @14.375

Tail is fine, it's the nose. It's hard to describe but right as the curve starts near the nose tip it makes an abrupt curve to finish off, there is also a funky thing going on right at the kick; bunch of us were talking about this very thing today, nobody liked the shape past the front truck.

I can't post images anymore from google for some reason..

https://goo.gl/photos/

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the other shape they do looks much better.

Wish they had put the side by side comparison up sooner, I would have gone for the other shape without a doubt.
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: j....soy..... on November 20, 2016, 10:48:01 PM
You have the pulled but prefer the full?
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: Esquivel on November 21, 2016, 04:23:52 AM
one question here

when you place the board on a smooth surface a la nose slide or tail slide, does the board rock? what i am trying to ask is if the concave sort of continues to the nose/tail or if it is one of those board shapes that have been common lately where the tips are completely flat. I really hate it when they are flat (i am not talking about overall concave- just on the nose/tail), it gives me the impression that i am skating a flat plank of wood that should not be a skateboard. Thanks
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: mattchew on November 21, 2016, 05:28:05 AM
Damn I can't hang with the shape of that nose.
I, too, would fear razortail as well.
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: pointandclick on November 21, 2016, 09:48:28 AM
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What about it do you like?
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It's light
It''s rigid
It's REALLY poppy
Great WB @14.375

Tail is fine, it's the nose. It's hard to describe but right as the curve starts near the nose tip it makes an abrupt curve to finish off, there is also a funky thing going on right at the kick; bunch of us were talking about this very thing today, nobody liked the shape past the front truck.

I can't post images anymore from google for some reason..

https://goo.gl/photos/ (https://goo.gl/photos/)

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the other shape they do looks much better.
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Wish they had put the side by side comparison up sooner, I would have gone for the other shape without a doubt.
for those who havent seenthe shape guide.
(http://powell-peralta.com/media/wysiwyg/powellperalta/category/pp_flight_shape_comparison_page.jpg)
Title: Re: Another alternative(?) board construction with $80 US price tag, Powell Flight
Post by: Xen on November 21, 2016, 11:52:22 AM
I was riding the the one on the left, 249 and it's gross; the nose is just shit. It actually looks like someone made it in woodshop :P