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Title: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: Zeep Zander on November 07, 2016, 06:24:37 PM
interesting read. the paris attacks being in his neighborhood was pretty heavy. rather than spouting my own opinions i'd like to see what the pals think of this one.


http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2016/11/07/scott-bourne-on-whats-wrong-with-america/ (http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2016/11/07/scott-bourne-on-whats-wrong-with-america/)
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: perverted super otaku! on November 07, 2016, 06:52:01 PM
i like how disillusioned he is, he kinda sounded like Antoine Roquentin for a lil bit therr
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Post by: lk130 on November 07, 2016, 06:55:48 PM
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Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on November 07, 2016, 06:58:17 PM
I love me some Scott Bourne
*pours coffee*
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: shark tits on November 07, 2016, 07:00:07 PM
ha, he kicks it w/ self taught man on the daily!
i agreed w/ what he said. i really think computer phones need to be banned, it is too much and i don't see it changing organically. maybe we're too far gone into brave new world and can't revolt. i've got a few of the tools in place [growing food] but i am too anti social for bartering w/ my neighbors or whatever comes after we remove our shackles and firing squad the bourgousie.
i also agree/co-hate how americans think we're the best especially if you're racist. like either ya love us all and we're number one or those 'faggots, niggers and spics' are dragging down the median and we're not number one. can't have it both ways.
i'm a closet francophile so i harbor the conspiracy that france is the best even though i'm sure they've got crummy stuff too.
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Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on November 07, 2016, 07:01:39 PM
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Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: Julz on November 07, 2016, 07:08:31 PM
If you guys are really interested on the subject, Morris Berman's Dark Ages America and Ikenberry's article : The origins of american Hegemony are great reads that highlights how America became so big, so quickly and why it failed so miserably to stay on top....

The fall of the USSR marked the very first time in human history (as far as we know it) that the world was truly unipolar, under the American hegemony. That only lasted 10 years, many reasons explains why, but some of the major key points are Clinton's hard power approach in his foreign policies (gave a really bad look to America ; who the fuck wants to respect a country imposing its will everywhere they go ?). Then the Bush Admin fucked it all up for you guys when it sent troops to Irak. The idea of constantly seeking an enemy has been an obsession for most Presidents, (Vietnam, korea, USSR, south american ''communists'', the Middle East,etc...).

Add to that, the fact that the american elite sent all their manufactures and the workforce overseas, to underdeveloped countries, just to save a few pennies for their own good. Created heavy social tensions in the US, and helped develop other countries (which leads to globalization and multi-polar world).


Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: Mother Goose. on November 07, 2016, 07:08:57 PM
that cover up tattoo job allegedly covers up white power slogans and/or racist insignias that provide clues to his racist past or, so i've read (probably here). i enjoyed his part in strongest of the strange. was a big fan of the unbelievers too.
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Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: Julz on November 07, 2016, 07:13:31 PM
Also, privatizing superior education will lead to having guys like Trump in your polls. The idea that people see hope in him truly demonstrate that the USA has entered a crisis stage in its history
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: JAesop on November 07, 2016, 07:27:11 PM
Also, privatizing superior education will lead to having guys like Trump in your polls. The idea that people see hope in him truly demonstrate that the USA has entered a crisis stage in its history

Crisis? Or just a period of growth? All of the underlying skeletons in the closet that are a part of our history are being brought out into the open. When it's out it can be dealt with.
However, There is no doubt that this one of the most insecure countries in the world and we run on fear.
I have always thought it should be mandatory for all Americans to travel/ live abroad just to broaden worldview. I won't forget the first time I went out of the country and had that moment that I realized that my USA - centric outlook was completely wrong.
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on November 07, 2016, 07:29:38 PM
that cover up tattoo job allegedly covers up white power slogans and/or racist insignias that provide clues to his racist past or, so i've read (probably here).
shady info at best. he was into a lot of punk rock when he was younger so unless he had a jasson jesse/ white pride phase then I'm guessing he was leaning more towards the left. then again, doesn't he have JJ's signature tattooed on him? #plotthickens
Scott Bourne is untouchable for me though, have dug everything he's ever done <3
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Post by: N.L. on November 07, 2016, 07:33:18 PM
nothing new there. spouting the same old line as he has been for a decade. america is fucked. so is france. at least he acknowledges, he's yet to learn how fucked france is.
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: shark tits on November 07, 2016, 07:37:00 PM
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that cover up tattoo job allegedly covers up white power slogans and/or racist insignias that provide clues to his racist past or, so i've read (probably here).
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shady info at best. he was into a lot of punk rock when he was younger so unless he had a jasson jesse/ white pride phase then I'm guessing he was leaning more towards the left. then again, doesn't he have JJ's signature tattooed on him? #plotthickens
Scott Bourne is untouchable for me though, have dug everything he's ever done <3
he's untouchable? are you trying to put the moves on him?
heh, i tend to doubt the validity of that rumor. i might color my arm black cause i got a tattoo gun, the urge and no skills.
poster above who said it should be mandatory to travel, damn right! even running around america has informed me, indian reservations and forgotten [mccrank] towns as well as colleges and fancy places but i'm missing something not going overseas.
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: Julz on November 07, 2016, 07:41:11 PM
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Also, privatizing superior education will lead to having guys like Trump in your polls. The idea that people see hope in him truly demonstrate that the USA has entered a crisis stage in its history
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Crisis? Or just a period of growth? All of the underlying skeletons in the closet that are a part of our history are being brought out into the open. When it's out it can be dealt with.
However, There is no doubt that this one of the most insecure countries in the world and we run on fear.
I have always thought it should be mandatory for all Americans to travel/ live abroad just to broaden worldview. I won't forget the first time I went out of the country and had that moment that I realized that my USA - centric outlook was completely wrong.

A crisis in the way of a period of instability, as in social, economic and political, which will inevitably lead to decisive changes. But it's up to you guys to figure if it will be positive or negative changes.
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: JAesop on November 07, 2016, 07:53:18 PM
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Also, privatizing superior education will lead to having guys like Trump in your polls. The idea that people see hope in him truly demonstrate that the USA has entered a crisis stage in its history
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Crisis? Or just a period of growth? All of the underlying skeletons in the closet that are a part of our history are being brought out into the open. When it's out it can be dealt with.
However, There is no doubt that this one of the most insecure countries in the world and we run on fear.
I have always thought it should be mandatory for all Americans to travel/ live abroad just to broaden worldview. I won't forget the first time I went out of the country and had that moment that I realized that my USA - centric outlook was completely wrong.
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A crisis in the way of a period of instability, as in social, economic and political, which will inevitably lead to decisive changes. But it's up to you guys to figure if it will be positive or negative changes.

Yep.  
Historically it seems we somehow keep plodding forward, so I have hope.
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: Tyroneshoelaces on November 07, 2016, 07:58:03 PM
i wish the next thing that fails him is the brakes on his car.  dude needs to disappear.  fucking kook to the bone marrow
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: Powdered Toast Man! on November 07, 2016, 08:16:20 PM
nieratko of tsm on jenkem confirmed
get carnie  8)
edit*
nevermind he was just the connect,
would be cool though!
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: miff on November 07, 2016, 09:34:38 PM
More power to Scott... I mean his thoughts are accurate, but you have to consider that all that happens, as high-level as world endeavors, are all part of a natural process. Global progress/injustices are much too large a thing to think that any one person or single group can be responsible for. Those on the top strive to stay on top, us at the bottom are striving to make way. Maybe not to the top, but the top meaning our own desires or perceptions of the top. What lies in our own wake?

Scott's thoughts are young and true, but they lack any sort of answer to anything. Points are valid, but there's no single solution to these sorts of things. There are nationalist assholes at every corner of every country on earth.
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on November 07, 2016, 09:41:50 PM
he's untouchable? are you trying to put the moves on him?
If I was that way inclined, he would be the first dude I'd put moves on :-*
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: shark tits on November 07, 2016, 09:47:50 PM
More power to Scott... There are nationalist assholes at every corner of every country on earth.
more power to the people!
in ffrance even nationalist assholes are better and more intellectual than they are here. when the thieves tied up kardashian they made their getaway on bicycles.
w/ baguettes in the basket next to the purloined jewels.
chomp on that, america!
hon hon hon!
oldie but frenchie got hurt and is relegated to just cruising mostly. in america he'd have a longboard but have you seen his 'cruising' viideos? they're better than most people's skatepark synthetic ledge footage.
if anyone needs anymore convincing let me just say andre the giant>the big show
to gism, i was quoting that video where scott bourne is at burnside and dude tells him he's beautiful
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Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on November 07, 2016, 10:36:59 PM
to gism, i was quoting that video where scott bourne is at burnside and dude tells him he's beautiful
as the french say, touche
(but yes, he's a beautiful human being)

i wish the next thing that fails him is the brakes on his car.  dude needs to disappear.  fucking kook to the bone marrow
wow, you sound like a well adjusted human being. I hate hard on some pros as much as the next SLAPper, but wishing death on people...
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: fulfillthedream on November 08, 2016, 12:25:43 AM
was Jasson Jessee really into a white pride phase ?
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on November 08, 2016, 12:28:39 AM
was Jasson Jessee really into a white pride phase ?
100%! It's well documented . Then again, it's JJ we're talking about, I'm pretty sure he's had at least 6 screws loose since sometime in the mid-80s
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Post by: KoRnholio8 on November 08, 2016, 01:19:33 AM
I mean, he has a point - we are too deeply involved in being connected all the time and we have to bring that down to a minimum and do more "offline" for our own mental health.
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on November 08, 2016, 01:50:05 AM
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More power to Scott... There are nationalist assholes at every corner of every country on earth.
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more power to the people!
in ffrance even nationalist assholes are better and more intellectual than they are here. when the thieves tied up kardashian they made their getaway on bicycles.
w/ baguettes in the basket next to the purloined jewels.
chomp on that, america!
hon hon hon!
oldie but frenchie got hurt and is relegated to just cruising mostly. in america he'd have a longboard but have you seen his 'cruising' viideos? they're better than most people's skatepark synthetic ledge footage.
if anyone needs anymore convincing let me just say andre the giant>the big show
to gism, i was quoting that video where scott bourne is at burnside and dude tells him he's beautiful
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damn that's heavy......thanks for the compliment mon ami!

Ok, so lots to say here. First off, I gotta say that is true: in ffrance even nationalist assholes are better and more intellectual than they are here.

France is a very intellectual country, even compared to other places in Europe. Cliche but true.
That being said, I also love the US. As the article says, it's the birthplace of skating, hip-hop, not to mention rock&roll. But when I stayed in California for a few months in the 90's, I realized there was absolutely no way I could live there. Coming from Paris, it just seemed empty culturally. And I had the same feeling in Australia btw.

Then again, France is just fucked right now. There's a real problem of coming to terms with the country's colonial past, a 10% muslim population and a far right very much on the rise. The "Front National" has 20% of the votes nationally, or more. There'll be a presidential  election next year and I'm fearful of what's going to happen. Maybe one of the big differences with the US is that France was ashamed of what happened in WWII for a very long time. For people of my generation, just waving a French flag was considered taboo and stinking of nationalism. It only changed in 98 when we won the World Cup....seriously!

Globally I think most countries would do much worse if they had the same power as the US. Trump is scary, but remember Portugal, Germany, Italy and Spain all had fascist dictators in power not that long ago in the 20th century. France came close and had the Vichy regime.
Allright I don't know where to stop ranting here....
Oh right, Bourne! He just seems like a very melodramatic guy (just look at the tattoos.........), which kinda irks me a bit. And I have a hard time taking him seriously with his anti-system attitude, considering he did modeling jobs in Paris. His face was plasted all over advertisements. Then again, I saw him skating once and he was impressive. All power and commitment, even with no cameras around.

Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: frontsideindy on November 08, 2016, 02:22:53 AM
IDK what Scott Bourne is doing right now or what he have said
the last years, I mostly care about the first consolidated parts.

But most things said in the interview is common sense to me.
Get out of your city, leave your country- learn different languages.
Be open minded, talk to people. Stop revolve around yourself.
Switch of television/computer/ phone and spend time in real life.

In europe it's a little more common to travel through different countries,
learning in other cultures or meeting with people from other social background
multiple wars teached  us the hardway its better to know your neighbors.

Not many of my USA friends have done a intership in Mexico
or have spend a couple of months through Highschool somewhere in
middle america.

nationalism, fanaticism, radicalism, racism are in general norrow minded and bad,
the finacial elite need stupid consumer, this is all we are in western civilization- nothing more nothing less-
no conspiracy theory needet. It's difficult to stop consuming in our society- but stop
being stupid.
Shut off your computer and give you vote - it have not a big value to be honest,
but stop at least that angry, aggressive, stupid, old white man.
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: perverted super otaku! on November 08, 2016, 06:13:47 AM
New Adam Curtis doc is relevant to this thread, its on the BBC iplayer for UK pals

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperNormalisation
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: KronLaFlare on November 08, 2016, 06:43:51 AM
Scott Bourne was called a patriot in this article.....Scott is not a patriot
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Post by: mattchew on November 08, 2016, 07:03:18 AM
I have always liked Scott. He had...not a Pro Spotlight, but some sort of interview in Transworld, and I got hyped on him at a young age.

Has anyone read his novel? Wonder if it's any good.
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Post by: violentpizza on November 08, 2016, 07:04:23 AM
Scott is the proto MJ. Pseudo intellectual who really speaks to people who don't know shit.
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Post by: drewdown on November 08, 2016, 07:29:48 AM
Scott is the proto MJ. Pseudo intellectual who really speaks to people who don't know shit.

haha!! my thoughts as well. 
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Post by: stevedave on November 08, 2016, 08:14:33 AM
this isn't some new thing for Bourne, he's always expressed his disappointment with the US.  Also, I know people that know him and I was under the impression that he had been in France for much longer than just since 2014. 

Anyone remember his Unbelievers board that had the Statue of Liberty in the water, basically walking from NY back to France?  It was a pretty sick. 
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Post by: Julz on November 08, 2016, 08:45:24 AM
What's so ironic about this guy is that he chose a country that is just as fragmented as the US... Marine Le Pen is their version of Trump, they have major issues regarding their immigrant integrations, safety is becoming an issue, etc etc.

 It's not like the guy moved to Iceland.
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Post by: oyolar on November 08, 2016, 08:55:43 AM
I think it's cool that he gives a lot of thought to these things and issues, but it sucks that he's ranting against the internet and smart phones, just like every other person in their late 30s who is given an outlet.  People do realize that it is possible to forge connections and communities online, right?  And it's super myopic to treat online and offline existence as if they're incompatible.

Also, what Julz said.  France is not a utopia and while it's cool that he seemed to acknowledge that he's still looking at it with rose-colored glasses, you don't need to live there for 30 years to be aware of and turned off by a lot of sketchy stuff going on there right now.
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Post by: fang on November 08, 2016, 08:57:59 AM
I have always liked Scott. He had...not a Pro Spotlight, but some sort of interview in Transworld, and I got hyped on him at a young age.

Has anyone read his novel? Wonder if it's any good.

I have it but have yet to read it. I bought it Dec. 2013, found out I was going to be a dad on January 1st 2014, and have yet to get to it. I'm psyched on it except in one interview I believe he said he stretched some truths. That kind of bummed me out but I still hope it's entertainment. I believe I saw one on ebay currently.

Still love his Consolidated parts and his part in that Pontus video. I actually really enjoy the "No Tomorrow " video the most. I like the scenery of the traveling scenes (train stuff the most) and it made me want to travel across country. Plus using 2 Lungfish songs was cool.
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Post by: OldieButFrenchie on November 08, 2016, 08:59:39 AM
What's so ironic about this guy is that he chose a country that is just as fragmented as the US... Marine Le Pen is their version of Trump, they have major issues regarding their immigrant integrations, safety is becoming an issue, etc etc.

 It's not like the guy moved to Iceland.

I don't have the time to answer in detail, so quickly:

- France is not as fragmented as the US by a long shot. There are more mixed marriages for instance.
- Marine Le Pen is the candidate for a fringe party, not the main conservative party.
- safety: yes we had several terrorist attacks but homicide rate is 4 times less than in US

But like I said before.......Not everything is perfect in France, far from it.
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Post by: slappies on November 08, 2016, 09:00:34 AM
this isn't some new thing for Bourne, he's always expressed his disappointment with the US.  Also, I know people that know him and I was under the impression that he had been in France for much longer than just since 2014. 

Anyone remember his Unbelievers board that had the Statue of Liberty in the water, basically walking from NY back to France?  It was a pretty sick. 

Pretty fucking cool graphic.
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c368/DILLINGERXCAPE/BAND%20DECKS/bourneLIBERTY.jpg)
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Post by: Still Tippin on November 08, 2016, 09:06:32 AM
Scott is the proto MJ. Pseudo intellectual who really speaks to people who don't know shit.
!!!!!!!!! thank you !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: Julz on November 08, 2016, 09:16:36 AM
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What's so ironic about this guy is that he chose a country that is just as fragmented as the US... Marine Le Pen is their version of Trump, they have major issues regarding their immigrant integrations, safety is becoming an issue, etc etc.

 It's not like the guy moved to Iceland.
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I don't have the time to answer in detail, so quickly:

- France is not as fragmented as the US by a long shot. There are more mixed marriages for instance.
- Marine Le Pen is the candidate for a fringe party, not the main conservative party.
- safety: yes we had several terrorist attacks but homicide rate is 4 times less than in US

But like I said before.......Not everything is perfect in France, far from it.

No one is perfect, of course. We all have our issues. But, you can't deny that France is also going through a rough patch. But, would you go to a ''Banlieue'' ? Are the subways in Marseille all safe ?
 
Sure, Le Pen won't win the election, but she is stiring alot of shit and creating alot of social tensions within the country (� la Trump).




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Post by: stevedave on November 08, 2016, 09:37:34 AM
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this isn't some new thing for Bourne, he's always expressed his disappointment with the US.  Also, I know people that know him and I was under the impression that he had been in France for much longer than just since 2014. 

Anyone remember his Unbelievers board that had the Statue of Liberty in the water, basically walking from NY back to France?  It was a pretty sick. 
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Pretty fucking cool graphic.
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c368/DILLINGERXCAPE/BAND%20DECKS/bourneLIBERTY.jpg)

yup.  i actually own the original drawing/painting of that graphic that Jeremy Fish did, and also have the original JR Neves one that's people drinking at Tattooed Mom's. 
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Post by: shark tits on November 08, 2016, 09:41:50 AM
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Still love his Consolidated parts and his part in that Pontus video. I actually really enjoy the "No Tomorrow " video the most. I like the scenery of the traveling scenes (train stuff the most) and it made me want to travel across country. Plus using 2 Lungfish songs was cool.
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dude! him and ol boy on the grainer inspired yrs of wreckless travel in me. getting trains pulled over is pure stupidity but of course i've done it. i seen him in SF at like 8 in the am ollieing up the 2 stairs at pier 7 to manual then manualling the pad and maybe landing still in manual. he didn't care about what's cool. maybe he lays it on thick but skating would be boring w/out militant neo-luddite lovers or whatever he thinks he is. dude's a character not some idiot listening to rap and talking w/ a bunch of slang that will be outdated in 5 yrs.
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Post by: behavioralguide on November 08, 2016, 09:48:35 AM
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Still love his Consolidated parts and his part in that Pontus video. I actually really enjoy the "No Tomorrow " video the most. I like the scenery of the traveling scenes (train stuff the most) and it made me want to travel across country. Plus using 2 Lungfish songs was cool.
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dude! him and ol boy on the grainer inspired yrs of wreckless travel in me. getting trains pulled over is pure stupidity but of course i've done it. i seen him in SF at like 8 in the am ollieing up the 2 stairs at pier 7 to manual then manualling the pad and maybe landing still in manual. he didn't care about what's cool. maybe he lays it on thick but skating would be boring w/out militant neo-luddite lovers or whatever he thinks he is. dude's a character not some idiot listening to rap and talking w/ a bunch of slang that will be outdated in 5 yrs.
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as much as i agree i have a hard time liking him after seeing this:

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Post by: iKobrakai on November 08, 2016, 10:03:31 AM
What does he do for a living?
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Post by: shark tits on November 08, 2016, 10:26:48 AM
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Still love his Consolidated parts and his part in that Pontus video. I actually really enjoy the "No Tomorrow " video the most. I like the scenery of the traveling scenes (train stuff the most) and it made me want to travel across country. Plus using 2 Lungfish songs was cool.
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dude! him and ol boy on the grainer inspired yrs of wreckless travel in me. getting trains pulled over is pure stupidity but of course i've done it. i seen him in SF at like 8 in the am ollieing up the 2 stairs at pier 7 to manual then manualling the pad and maybe landing still in manual. he didn't care about what's cool. maybe he lays it on thick but skating would be boring w/out militant neo-luddite lovers or whatever he thinks he is. dude's a character not some idiot listening to rap and talking w/ a bunch of slang that will be outdated in 5 yrs.
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as much as i agree i have a hard time liking him after seeing this:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-pIkXERrddEA/VBDHw05TIiI/AAAAAAAAJYQ/3F_w48bvdJY/s1600/092.JPG)

you betta work!
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Post by: slappies on November 08, 2016, 10:27:38 AM
What does he do for a living?

He provides the black bars for widescreen DVDs.
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Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on November 08, 2016, 11:39:39 AM
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He provides the black bars for widescreen DVDs.

HO.LY.SHIT.
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He provides the black bars for widescreen DVDs.
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Thats genius, he was working in a bar last time I was there.
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Post by: wallieD on November 08, 2016, 11:54:16 AM
beavis interviewing butthead
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Post by: 4LOM on November 08, 2016, 01:03:08 PM
I think it's cool that he gives a lot of thought to these things and issues, but it sucks that he's ranting against the internet and smart phones, just like every other person in their late 30s who is given an outlet.  People do realize that it is possible to forge connections and communities online, right?  And it's super myopic to treat online and offline existence as if they're incompatible.

Also, what Julz said.  France is not a utopia and while it's cool that he seemed to acknowledge that he's still looking at it with rose-colored glasses, you don't need to live there for 30 years to be aware of and turned off by a lot of sketchy stuff going on there right now.

He's probably thinking of community as more than sharing ideas or interests, but some I-Thou, inter-subjective, trans-personal connections. Something that requires more openness, vulnerability, and presence than the internet provides.
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: such on November 08, 2016, 03:38:58 PM
explain to me why people are gonna leave before even seeing what trumps america is gonna be like. if its bad then yeah, but shouldnt you atleast give him a chance?
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Post by: Mongoloid on November 08, 2016, 03:42:04 PM
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He provides the black bars for widescreen DVDs.

Fucking Brilliant!
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: Salty Lame Ass Poosey on November 08, 2016, 06:31:30 PM
I still think the wigger Scott Bourne with the low rider Honda who wanted to beat up Mike Sinclair phase is the best
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: sleepypancakes on November 08, 2016, 09:25:18 PM
If Scott Bourne were one-tenth as smart as he thinks he is, he'd still be an arrogant douche.
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Post by: Zeep Zander on November 08, 2016, 09:45:29 PM
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HO.LY.SHIT.
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: ducky darnsworth on November 08, 2016, 10:00:02 PM
this is extremely shitty but this is all i thought of everytime i opened this thread for some reason
(http://i.imgur.com/jnb2iYt.jpg?1)
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: Tyroneshoelaces on November 08, 2016, 10:17:10 PM
this dude needs to fuck off
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: Pete on November 08, 2016, 10:41:00 PM
Has his arm been blacked out his entire career? i know all the rumors but there's gotta be photos of him skating with whatever dumbass tattoos he had covered up somewhere. Regardless dudes always been a cornball. Free Max b
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on November 08, 2016, 11:42:25 PM
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What's so ironic about this guy is that he chose a country that is just as fragmented as the US... Marine Le Pen is their version of Trump, they have major issues regarding their immigrant integrations, safety is becoming an issue, etc etc.

 It's not like the guy moved to Iceland.
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I don't have the time to answer in detail, so quickly:

- France is not as fragmented as the US by a long shot. There are more mixed marriages for instance.
- Marine Le Pen is the candidate for a fringe party, not the main conservative party.
- safety: yes we had several terrorist attacks but homicide rate is 4 times less than in US

But like I said before.......Not everything is perfect in France, far from it.
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No one is perfect, of course. We all have our issues. But, you can't deny that France is also going through a rough patch. But, would you go to a ''Banlieue'' ? Are the subways in Marseille all safe ?
 
Sure, Le Pen won't win the election, but she is stiring alot of shit and creating alot of social tensions within the country (� la Trump).



well I said in my first post France is fucked right now. Actually I wonder how much Bourne understands of what's going on politically in France...
Anyways, I grew up in the "banlieue", south of Paris. My parents still live there. Sure there's some sketchy areas and being mugged in Marseille or some other place is a real possibility but believe me, it's nothing like US ghettoes where guns are readily available. I don't know where you live but France is safer than most places worldwide.

Now all that being said, WHAT THE FUCK AMERICA?? Trump is president for real??!!
After this and Brexit, I sure hope the French prresidential election doesn't provide the next shocker.
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Post by: frontsideindy on November 09, 2016, 02:24:22 AM
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What's so ironic about this guy is that he chose a country that is just as fragmented as the US... Marine Le Pen is their version of Trump, they have major issues regarding their immigrant integrations, safety is becoming an issue, etc etc.

 It's not like the guy moved to Iceland.
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I don't have the time to answer in detail, so quickly:

- France is not as fragmented as the US by a long shot. There are more mixed marriages for instance.
- Marine Le Pen is the candidate for a fringe party, not the main conservative party.
- safety: yes we had several terrorist attacks but homicide rate is 4 times less than in US

But like I said before.......Not everything is perfect in France, far from it.
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No one is perfect, of course. We all have our issues. But, you can't deny that France is also going through a rough patch. But, would you go to a ''Banlieue'' ? Are the subways in Marseille all safe ?
 
Sure, Le Pen won't win the election, but she is stiring alot of shit and creating alot of social tensions within the country (� la Trump).


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well I said in my first post France is fucked right now. Actually I wonder how much Bourne understands of what's going on politically in France...
Anyways, I grew up in the "banlieue", south of Paris. My parents still live there. Sure there's some sketchy areas and being mugged in Marseille or some other place is a real possibility but believe me, it's nothing like US ghettoes where guns are readily available. I don't know where you live but France is safer than most places worldwide.

Now all that being said, WHAT THE FUCK AMERICA?? Trump is president for real??!!
After this and Brexit, I sure hope the French prresidential election doesn't provide the next shocker.

France was like paradise for me 20 years ago, I spend time in
rural areas up in the north, skate sketchy places in paris and marseille and chill with chicks I meet in the streets
for free in villas in nizza, biarritz and the provence -  I enjoy all of that. Time of my live. For sure I never spend
more then 3 months over there - but I still go there once a year, and keep in touch with people I meet...

True economic and the vibes have changed -
but it's still a really nice place to go.

biggest problem is that the reality for old people in rural areas is completely
different then life in the urban areas for younger population.
Quite the same problem then in America- you have two seperated
societies with not much understanding for each others.

@julz but you are right if you are fed up with society
Paris is a bad choice - most expensive place to live- difficult
to raise a family as a novel writing bartender...
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: Mother Goose. on November 09, 2016, 02:37:52 AM
puma scott bourne (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQftQP6u62Y#)
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: Pretty Serious on November 09, 2016, 10:19:40 AM
I'll have respect for Nerdtako if he makes good on packing up his "do-not-trick-or-treat" list and kids and flees to Portugal. 
Despite Bourne basically telling him he couldn't afford to do so nor was a guy like Trump worth uprooting one's life over.
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on November 14, 2016, 05:08:35 PM
Has anyone read his novel?
*Raises hand*
I liked it, he doesn't mention skateboarding even once in it but it's a great insight into SF in the mid 90s. I may be biased though cuz I love me some Scott Bourne :-* Comparing him to MJ is fucking blasphemy on so many levels
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Post by: OldieButFrenchie on November 14, 2016, 11:53:08 PM
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*Raises hand*
I liked it, he doesn't mention skateboarding even once in it but it's a great insight into SF in the mid 90s. I may be biased though cuz I love me some Scott Bourne :-* Comparing him to MJ is fucking blasphemy on so many levels

yes. MJ is obviously a much better skater.

(even though I have sympathy for Bourne as a Paris-lover.....)
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on November 15, 2016, 12:02:38 AM
yes. MJ is obviously a much better skater.
at ledge/ manual tech, yes (then again, MJ used to be a rail chomper too), but Bourne killed it back in the day. Easily in my top 5
As for the pseudo-intellectual call, I'd bet good money that Bourne is at least 5x as well read as MJ is
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Post by: OldieButFrenchie on November 15, 2016, 01:02:24 AM
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at ledge/ manual tech, yes (then again, MJ used to be a rail chomper too), but Bourne killed it back in the day. Easily in my top 5
As for the pseudo-intellectual call, I'd bet good money that Bourne is at least 5x as well read as MJ is

oh I loved Bourne's skating too. Especially his 411 section, remember that? long manual as an intro was bad-ass (at 48'00). and I could identify with his approach more than dudes like MJ or Koston who were way out of my league.
But MJ is just so much more gifted, which is probably why he had a much longer career. Better style too, by miles!

411VM-Issue 26 (skateboard video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtCGyz5knU0#)
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: casper on November 15, 2016, 07:49:23 AM
I like Scott . One time he gave me a book to read. Hunger by Knut Hamsun . Was a good book.
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Post by: mattchew on November 15, 2016, 07:52:13 AM
I like Scott . One time he gave me a book to read. Hunger by Knut Hamsun . Was a good book.


I love that novel. That's awesome.
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Post by: mattdlx on November 15, 2016, 10:48:33 AM


oh I loved Bourne's skating too. Especially his 411 section, remember that? long manual as an intro was bad-ass (at 48'00)...

411VM-Issue 26 (skateboard video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtCGyz5knU0#)

Right in front of the DLX shop!
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Post by: andocom on November 15, 2016, 08:24:04 PM
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fuuuck, posts like that are why I'm not turning off the internet any time soon
Title: Re: HOW AMERICA FAILED SCOTT BOURNE
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on November 15, 2016, 09:55:11 PM
oh I loved Bourne's skating too. Especially his 411 section, remember that?
411VM-Issue 26 (skateboard video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtCGyz5knU0#)
I've actually ... never seen that! So thanks. Yeah look, MJ has 500x the talent on a board but as you said, Bourne was someone you could relate to. Sure, he never did the hardest tricks but he did charge shit and always looked at obstacles differently. Photos of him were always gnarly too! I think his big brother interview was my favourite. 

I like Scott . One time he gave me a book to read. Hunger by Knut Hamsun . Was a good book.
Awesome, do you still have it?
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Post by: ChuckRamone on November 15, 2016, 11:46:13 PM
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What's so ironic about this guy is that he chose a country that is just as fragmented as the US... Marine Le Pen is their version of Trump, they have major issues regarding their immigrant integrations, safety is becoming an issue, etc etc.

 It's not like the guy moved to Iceland.
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I don't have the time to answer in detail, so quickly:

- France is not as fragmented as the US by a long shot. There are more mixed marriages for instance.
- Marine Le Pen is the candidate for a fringe party, not the main conservative party.
- safety: yes we had several terrorist attacks but homicide rate is 4 times less than in US

But like I said before.......Not everything is perfect in France, far from it.
[close]

No one is perfect, of course. We all have our issues. But, you can't deny that France is also going through a rough patch. But, would you go to a ''Banlieue'' ? Are the subways in Marseille all safe ?
 
Sure, Le Pen won't win the election, but she is stiring alot of shit and creating alot of social tensions within the country (� la Trump).


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well I said in my first post France is fucked right now. Actually I wonder how much Bourne understands of what's going on politically in France...
Anyways, I grew up in the "banlieue", south of Paris. My parents still live there. Sure there's some sketchy areas and being mugged in Marseille or some other place is a real possibility but believe me, it's nothing like US ghettoes where guns are readily available. I don't know where you live but France is safer than most places worldwide.

Now all that being said, WHAT THE FUCK AMERICA?? Trump is president for real??!!
After this and Brexit, I sure hope the French prresidential election doesn't provide the next shocker.

as in marine le pen? that's whom 4-chan/alt-right wants.
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Post by: OldieButFrenchie on November 16, 2016, 12:01:38 AM
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What's so ironic about this guy is that he chose a country that is just as fragmented as the US... Marine Le Pen is their version of Trump, they have major issues regarding their immigrant integrations, safety is becoming an issue, etc etc.

 It's not like the guy moved to Iceland.
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I don't have the time to answer in detail, so quickly:

- France is not as fragmented as the US by a long shot. There are more mixed marriages for instance.
- Marine Le Pen is the candidate for a fringe party, not the main conservative party.
- safety: yes we had several terrorist attacks but homicide rate is 4 times less than in US

But like I said before.......Not everything is perfect in France, far from it.
[close]

No one is perfect, of course. We all have our issues. But, you can't deny that France is also going through a rough patch. But, would you go to a ''Banlieue'' ? Are the subways in Marseille all safe ?
 
Sure, Le Pen won't win the election, but she is stiring alot of shit and creating alot of social tensions within the country (� la Trump).


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well I said in my first post France is fucked right now. Actually I wonder how much Bourne understands of what's going on politically in France...
Anyways, I grew up in the "banlieue", south of Paris. My parents still live there. Sure there's some sketchy areas and being mugged in Marseille or some other place is a real possibility but believe me, it's nothing like US ghettoes where guns are readily available. I don't know where you live but France is safer than most places worldwide.

Now all that being said, WHAT THE FUCK AMERICA?? Trump is president for real??!!
After this and Brexit, I sure hope the French prresidential election doesn't provide the next shocker.
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as in marine le pen? that's whom 4-chan/alt-right wants.

yes that's who I was refering to. Her party, Front National, is a old-school fascist party trying to clean up its act.
And she has a good shot at being in the 2nd round of the election. I used to think she could never ever be elected president but now I'm not so sure.