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Re: are political pros lame?
« Reply #180 on: October 29, 2023, 09:05:16 PM »
I kind of find it funny, how people try to claim to be ‘apolitical’ or ‘don’t want to hear about politics’

Politics is just about who gets to make decisions, and how decisions are made.

Skaters, especially SLAP get flaming hard-ons to discuss what is ‘core’.

People arguing what shoe companies are worth supporting, what media is exploiting the culture, what is adding to it, especially the importance of ‘skater-owned’ companies and distrust of people who want to exploit it for cash.

What I don’t think people realize is that these critiques of having a skaters’ voices in industry and media are basically political statements. It’s concern about how much skaters have control over their own culture and industry.

 Most of hate the idea of a culture dominated by people who are just in it for the money, we instinctively feel that they won’t make decisions in the best interest for skateboarding.

These are political issues, if we can define politics as just how decisions get made, socially, culturally, economically, and otherwise. It’s not just government.

So no, unless you give absolutely zero shits about how other’s decisions affect you and your life, you are political.
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Re: are political pros lame?
« Reply #181 on: October 29, 2023, 11:04:12 PM »
↑ good points cuck!
I also wants all pros to wear their (political) hearts on their sleeves because it’s a great way of letting me know very quickly whether I want to support them and the brand(s) they ride for.

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Re: are political pros lame?
« Reply #182 on: October 30, 2023, 02:36:37 AM »
Well “political” is vague.

You have some pros like Duffy or Templeton who spew the propaganda of their respected echo chambers, which is inherently political.

Then you have dudes like P Rod and Pontus Alv, who don’t say much about social issues but are very open with talking about the logistics of running a business, which is also inherently political.

To me it all kinda depends on how thought out your stances are and how well you articulate them.

Bold of you to blanket all of Duffy/Templeton's thoughts on social media as X or Y propaganda. That's an incredibly inaccurate statement and is an uneducated view on what they both do. Sharing their own personal beliefs (political or not) is not sharing propaganda.

I  don't see Templeton sharing actual material from those creating the propaganda you speak of. In fact, he doesn't share it, but pokes fun at the machine responsible for political propaganda while sharing his own opinion. Again, not sharing actual propaganda anywhere that I've seen.

Duffy, I stopped following so I'm not sure on what he posts, so I can't comment on him. However, I assume he shared sentiment that was anti covid vax, pro Trump, etc. since Templeton is the opposite of that.
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Re: are political pros lame?
« Reply #183 on: October 30, 2023, 05:05:41 AM »
Politics in general are lame af.

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Re: are political pros lame?
« Reply #184 on: October 30, 2023, 08:49:30 AM »
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Well “political” is vague.

You have some pros like Duffy or Templeton who spew the propaganda of their respected echo chambers, which is inherently political.

Then you have dudes like P Rod and Pontus Alv, who don’t say much about social issues but are very open with talking about the logistics of running a business, which is also inherently political.

To me it all kinda depends on how thought out your stances are and how well you articulate them.
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I  don't see Templeton sharing actual material from those creating the propaganda you speak of. In fact, he doesn't share it, but pokes fun at the machine responsible for political propaganda while sharing his own opinion. Again, not sharing actual propaganda anywhere that I've seen.

That's because you agree with Templeton's worldview.

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Re: are political pros lame?
« Reply #185 on: October 30, 2023, 08:58:16 AM »
I  don't see Templeton sharing actual material from those creating the propaganda you speak of. In fact, he doesn't share it, but pokes fun at the machine responsible for political propaganda while sharing his own opinion. Again, not sharing actual propaganda anywhere that I've seen.

Duffy, I stopped following so I'm not sure on what he posts, so I can't comment on him. However, I assume he shared sentiment that was anti covid vax, pro Trump, etc. since Templeton is the opposite of that.

ed's been political in one way or another since his first pro interview

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Re: are political pros lame?
« Reply #186 on: October 30, 2023, 09:08:14 AM »

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Re: are political pros lame?
« Reply #187 on: October 30, 2023, 01:23:02 PM »
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I  don't see Templeton sharing actual material from those creating the propaganda you speak of. In fact, he doesn't share it, but pokes fun at the machine responsible for political propaganda while sharing his own opinion. Again, not sharing actual propaganda anywhere that I've seen.

Duffy, I stopped following so I'm not sure on what he posts, so I can't comment on him. However, I assume he shared sentiment that was anti covid vax, pro Trump, etc. since Templeton is the opposite of that.
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ed's been political in one way or another since his first pro interview

I never implied, nor stated he wasn't being political from my original post, by the way. Being political does not equal sharing propaganda, which I thought that was pretty obvious to people, but perhaps not.

And @manysnakes you don't know my worldview, you're only assuming I agree with Ed's. Also, agreeing or not agreeing with someone's worldview has zero to do with sharing actual propaganda or not. Again, most of what I have seen from Ed included almost zero propaganda, just his freedom expression of current topics that he's encountered. I can't recall any post where he used his expression to actually convince or coerce people forcefully, which if he did, then that can be seen as propaganda. A recommendation from someone doesn't count as forcefully convincing, by the way.

Propaganda is actual political fueled material disseminated to serve an agenda. Ed sharing his beliefs does not equal sharing propaganda, same with Duffy and the other people we've ruminated over here on Slap that do or don't align with our own views when they start expressing themselves beyond skateboarding
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