Adult fears.

[j....soy.....]

Well......lifestyle now means standing around and not skating while people take black and white photos of you....so maybe hobby is not such a bad deal....

[nice_guy_2]

Being forever alone is a fact of my existence, not a thing to worry about.

I have a real job that people stay in for life, but I don't know how long I can last doing it. I do like 60 hours a week. It's crazy because I only make enough money to live with a bunch of roommates. I'll probably never be able to afford a place of my own. The union is in arbitration again, but the last major agreement in arbitration led to a massive pay cuts. Either you get real good at something you love, or you do well enough in school to do something that you can at least tolerate. I did neither of these things and now I'm stuck. I'm going to hate work and that's never going to change.

Saving is a luxury I can't afford.

I don't give a shit about sterility. I'm forever alone. I do want to address that common sentiment of not wanting to bring a child into this "messed up world". That's bullshit. Despite what you hear on the news or read on alarmist websites, this is literally the safest time to be alive in history. Life expectancy is high, food is plentiful, and access to knowledge is unlimited to the majority of the people on the globe. Yes, there is war, there is disease, there is famine, there is crime, but every single one of these things are at lower levels than civilization has ever seen. We live in a sci-fi universe that people 50 years ago would scarcely believe and people think the world sucks? No, life sucks. I don't want to have kids because I'm unhappy. If I'm incapable of happiness, what chance does an individual that is literally half of me, half a woman that would be willing to be with me, and raised by me have? You either enjoy life or you don't and I don't want to force it on anyone. Even if in the future I inexplicably find myself a lover of life I wouldn't want to have a kid because, once again, I don't want to force this shit on anyone and I feel no obligation, whether it be cultural/societal pressure or innate desire, to propagate my genes. I would definitely adopt though. Those kids are already here and they need homes and people to love them.

Getting old fucking sucks. It's life's final fuck you before you lose the spark. An especially cruel thing that we have all culturally decided is okay either outright or by silence is the fact that most of us can't afford to do amazing life changing things until we're old. Think of all the retirees going on trips around the world while they have trouble walking. Fuck that noise. Getting old means living in constant physical pain and for most it also means living in ever growing existential torture and fear. People will swear up and down otherwise, but I've been around enough old people to know that the closer they inch toward their graves, the closer they cling to their religion and traditions. That is not a coincidence.
Here's the good news. Scientist are constantly looking (and finding) new ways of increasing longevity. Many see ageing as a disease to be cured and will stop at nothing short of stopping the process altogether and achieving virtual immortality. They'll do it by controlling the cell reproduction process, protection against cell damaging stimuli, organ farming, prosthetics, or any other number ways that people are currently working on and making big leaps in right now. The bad news: I'd bet my life that any significant leaps in life expectancy, and more importantly, youth extension are a few generations after us. At least we got to see the ball rolling. Exciting times.

[ADOLF SHITLER]

U guys need to cheer the fuck up my life is 10x worse than any of yours and im not even tripping that hard. Oh youll never own a house, guess that means your entire life was pointless huh

[Sleazy]

Well......lifestyle now means standing around and not skating while people take black and white photos of you....so maybe hobby is not such a bad deal....

lifestyle just seems to mean that you take your hobby really seriously... i'm looking at you swingers

[7 year old]

There's nothing being overcomplicated whatsoever. It's just not a hobby.

i know it's pretty lame to copy and paste definitions from the internet... but...

hob·by1 ˈhäbē/
noun
noun: hobby; plural noun: hobbies
    1.
    an activity done regularly in one's leisure time for pleasure.

what part of your own attitude towards skating doesnt fit this?

[the snake]

but would you kill a hobby cause you love it so much ?

[Main]

Hobbies are old man shit like building model trains and ships.

If a person is a jock that starts skateboarding because they noticed Nike and Adidas makes skate shoes and think (enter swag boy skater here) is cool, they'd probably consider it a sport...but it's not.

If a person is an adult who decided to pursue the American dream, they'd probably look at skateboarding as a hobby...but it's not. It's not a yo-yo, or a hoola hoop, or any other useless toy.

Skateboarding is a way of thinking. It also makes pavement, concrete, and many different types of surfaces useful in ways that average people would never even dream of.

Skateboarding is skateboarding. Pure and simple.

[Monkey_Mcpott]

Ive always been a believer in looking at the bright side of things. In the end only you can make the decision to make you happy.

Forever alone.

As I've gotten older my group of friend have gotten smaller and smaller but the ones i do have are lifers. Not everyone you are currently friends with will have your back in the long run. Sometime you have to be the one to end a dysfunctional friendhsip.

Dead end job

Just 2 years ago i was still living paycheck to paycheck and that alone can make you hate any job. Now I've almost doubled my salary and have worked less hours. Its all about networking people, a degree means nothing!

Pension/ 401k

Ive always had even the bare minimum added to a 401k, most of the times it ends of being like 5-20 bucks. When you think about it thats like going out to eat by yourself one time now a days which i think anyone can afford to sacrifice. It adds up pretty quick.

Sterility

Got 2 amazing kids (older boy and younger girl) that drive me nuts. Was fortunate enough to get both genders and the order i would have preferred, i couldn't imagine constantly trying to get both genders after 3 kids of the same gender.

Physical deterioration

Ive recently started eating better and getting back to a a good gym routine that allows me to keep me physically active and keep my stamina up. That alone has helped my skating so much. Watching Reynolds still skate should motivate anyone younger than him to keep it going.

Life is short, if you hate your current situation change the scenery and try something new.

[7 year old]

Hobbies are old man shit like building model trains and ships.

If a person is a jock that starts skateboarding because they noticed Nike and Adidas makes skate shoes and think (enter swag boy skater here) is cool, they'd probably consider it a sport...but it's not.

If a person is an adult who decided to pursue the American dream, they'd probably look at skateboarding as a hobby...but it's not. It's not a yo-yo, or a hoola hoop, or any other useless toy.

Skateboarding is a way of thinking. It also makes pavement, concrete, and many different types of surfaces useful in ways that average people would never even dream of.

Skateboarding is skateboarding. Pure and simple.

i think youre underestimating the potential other things have for changing your perception.
let's say your hobby is doodling cartoon characters, over time you would be able to better see the world around you because youve been focusing on how things look.

im sure there must be some obsessive model train afficionado out there who spends more time thinking about model trains than the average skateboarder spends thinking about skating.
and if that guy exists, im sure spending all that time thinking about trains must have changed his outlook in some way, maybe it strengthens mechanical skills or something along those lines.

edit: i do think there is something to be said for how quickly skateboarding changes the way we see our towns/citys/whatever

[Sleazy]

Hobbies are old man shit like building model trains and ships.

If a person is a jock that starts skateboarding because they noticed Nike and Adidas makes skate shoes and think (enter swag boy skater here) is cool, they'd probably consider it a sport...but it's not.

If a person is an adult who decided to pursue the American dream, they'd probably look at skateboarding as a hobby...but it's not. It's not a yo-yo, or a hoola hoop, or any other useless toy.

Skateboarding is a way of thinking. It also makes pavement, concrete, and many different types of surfaces useful in ways that average people would never even dream of.

Skateboarding is skateboarding. Pure and simple.

So you're at your a birthday party for your kids friend or your at a work happy hour or networking function and someone asks "Do you have any hobbies?" What do you say? If you're an adult I assume that comes up? Romanticizing skateboarding to some one making small talk is going to make you look like a douche. Don't take yourself so seriously, it just a hobbie. It's a fucking awesome, gratifying, artistic, consuming hobbie but unless you're pro it's what you do to enjoy your lesiure time... Aka a hobbie.

[Main]

So you're at your a birthday party for your kids friend or your at a work happy hour or networking function and someone asks "Do you have any hobbies?" What do you say? If you're an adult I assume that comes up? Romanticizing skateboarding to some one making small talk is going to make you look like a douche. Don't take yourself so seriously, it just a hobbie. It's a fucking awesome, gratifying, artistic, consuming hobbie but unless you're pro it's what you do to enjoy your lesiure time... Aka a hobbie.

I'm not a breeder so that scenario would never happen. I wouldn't care if a coworker who doesn't skateboard doesn't understand what it is. There is absolutely no seriousness at all with me on a skateboard, it's all about fun. But it's not a hobby, and skateboarders who consider it one, or a sport, are wrong. If you think that makes me a douche, so be it. I wont lose any sleep.

[Willie]

Adult Fears:

Kids getting hurt or having fucked up lives

Never having a decent job/money

Joyless, sexless marriage

Being alone

Colon cancer

[Sleazy]

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So you're at your a birthday party for your kids friend or your at a work happy hour or networking function and someone asks "Do you have any hobbies?" What do you say? If you're an adult I assume that comes up? Romanticizing skateboarding to some one making small talk is going to make you look like a douche. Don't take yourself so seriously, it just a hobbie. It's a fucking awesome, gratifying, artistic, consuming hobbie but unless you're pro it's what you do to enjoy your lesiure time... Aka a hobbie.

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I'm not a breeder so that scenario would never happen. I wouldn't care if a coworker who doesn't skateboard doesn't understand what it is. There is absolutely no seriousness at all with me on a skateboard, it's all about fun. But it's not a hobby, and skateboarders who consider it one, or a sport, are wrong. If you think that makes me a douche, so be it. I wont lose any sleep.

Breeder cracks me up every time I hear it. It's up there with honkey for corny slurs.

Not saying you're a douch I'm saying that in the context of the "adult world" romantisizing about skating to non-skaters would seem douchie. It's no different than people acting like the places they've travelled are so special that you have to see it to get it or the sky diver guy explain how you can't get the sensation unless you've done it. There's a whole lot of interesting people out there and cool hobbies are just one small piece of the interesting person pie.

[Main]

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So you're at your a birthday party for your kids friend or your at a work happy hour or networking function and someone asks "Do you have any hobbies?" What do you say? If you're an adult I assume that comes up? Romanticizing skateboarding to some one making small talk is going to make you look like a douche. Don't take yourself so seriously, it just a hobbie. It's a fucking awesome, gratifying, artistic, consuming hobbie but unless you're pro it's what you do to enjoy your lesiure time... Aka a hobbie.

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I'm not a breeder so that scenario would never happen. I wouldn't care if a coworker who doesn't skateboard doesn't understand what it is. There is absolutely no seriousness at all with me on a skateboard, it's all about fun. But it's not a hobby, and skateboarders who consider it one, or a sport, are wrong. If you think that makes me a douche, so be it. I wont lose any sleep.

[close]

Breeder cracks me up every time I hear it. It's up there with honkey for corny slurs.

Not saying you're a douch I'm saying that in the context of the "adult world" romantisizing about skating to non-skaters would seem douchie. It's no different than people acting like the places they've travelled are so special that you have to see it to get it or the sky diver guy explain how you can't get the sensation unless you've done it. There's a whole lot of interesting people out there and cool hobbies are just one small piece of the interesting person pie.

If it were a non-skateboarder trying to argue skateboarding is a hobby I probably wouldn't bother because they wouldn't know what they're talking about. But since you're a skateboarder I just wanted to chime in and correct you on that, as I would with any other skater. I'm not romanticizing either, just explaining. The video of Ian is a bit more poetic but we love skating so it's hard not to be.

[j....soy.....]

I'm definitely not saying skateboarding if there's no hope anyone remotely gets it......ill say snowboarding....watching hockey....hobby type shit....people like talkng about themselves so I play into that.....

[7 year old]

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So you're at your a birthday party for your kids friend or your at a work happy hour or networking function and someone asks "Do you have any hobbies?" What do you say? If you're an adult I assume that comes up? Romanticizing skateboarding to some one making small talk is going to make you look like a douche. Don't take yourself so seriously, it just a hobbie. It's a fucking awesome, gratifying, artistic, consuming hobbie but unless you're pro it's what you do to enjoy your lesiure time... Aka a hobbie.

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I'm not a breeder so that scenario would never happen. I wouldn't care if a coworker who doesn't skateboard doesn't understand what it is. There is absolutely no seriousness at all with me on a skateboard, it's all about fun. But it's not a hobby, and skateboarders who consider it one, or a sport, are wrong. If you think that makes me a douche, so be it. I wont lose any sleep.

[close]

Breeder cracks me up every time I hear it. It's up there with honkey for corny slurs.

Not saying you're a douch I'm saying that in the context of the "adult world" romantisizing about skating to non-skaters would seem douchie. It's no different than people acting like the places they've travelled are so special that you have to see it to get it or the sky diver guy explain how you can't get the sensation unless you've done it. There's a whole lot of interesting people out there and cool hobbies are just one small piece of the interesting person pie.

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If it were a non-skateboarder trying to argue skateboarding is a hobby I probably wouldn't bother because they wouldn't know what they're talking about. But since you're a skateboarder I just wanted to chime in and correct you on that, as I would with any other skater. I'm not romanticizing either, just explaining. The video of Ian is a bit more poetic but we love skating so it's hard not to be.

thank you for chiming in with these great explanations, it would have been a bummer if you just kept childishly reasserting that skateboarding wasnt a hobby without making any real arguments.

[Main]

thank you for chiming in with these great explanations, it would have been a bummer if you just kept childishly reasserting that skateboarding wasnt a hobby without making any real arguments.

Seems like you just came to give out your smart ass comment of the day to me. Feel free to add something constructive to the conversation and be a respectful adult anytime.

[Tufty]

 What the angry teenager tries to convey maybe is that most adults have fake hobbies. By that I mean hobbies that are passive and mind numbing. I mean most adults in my country have "sports" as hobby which basically consists of watching their favorite team and other teams on tv, reading  sport newspapers, talk about sport news with their friends and maybe play soccer or basketball with friends once a month. Sometimes those people laugh at me for skating in my 27s and my response is, tell me one thing about your life that is better than skateboarding, and they realise that they are assholes and things become very awkward for them. People who actually have hobbies (Movie making, having a band, mountain biking) are a minority and they never laugh at you because you skate in your late 20s, because they take joy from what they do in their free time and can totally understand that it is the same with skating.

[Sleazy]

that's well said and i get what your saying. i'm probably talking to something that's regional\specific to my ciricles. programmers are notorious for having off beat hobbies that they are passionate about so it seems normal to me. it's not uncommon to ask about programmers hobbies on interviews to sniff out the guys who are good. football, basketball, baseball, hunting, fishing... not so good. weird shit, then they are probably good. and then in austin the band\art\watersports\outdoors stuff is huge and so every other person is into something like that.

[brycickle]

Joyless, sexless marriage

I have plenty of joy in general. Zero sex to speak of.

[botefdunn]

that's well said and i get what your saying. i'm probably talking to something that's regional\specific to my ciricles. programmers are notorious for having off beat hobbies that they are passionate about so it seems normal to me. it's not uncommon to ask about programmers hobbies on interviews to sniff out the guys who are good. football, basketball, baseball, hunting, fishing... not so good. weird shit, then they are probably good. and then in austin the band\art\watersports\outdoors stuff is huge and so every other person is into something like that.

It's interesting to me that you impose your idea that skateboarding is always a hobby, yet you speak without hesitation of programming as something other than a hobby. A lot of people fuck around with html or some form or other of programming, but clearly this is not the place it occupies in your life (and whether or not you make money of it is only one way to look at things) .
Maybe you don't feel like you sacrifice anything to skate and so it really is just something you do "in your leisure time", but this is certainly not the case for everyone. I think a lot of skateboarders have a very love/hate relationship with it and it's a source of frustration, anxiety, and occupies a lot of mental space beyond the weekend session.

[Sleazy]

programming has been a hobby for me my whole life since i was a kid. i didn't mean to imply it wasn't or couldn't be. it's a lot of fun and i've compared it to skating in the programming thread on here and talked about how they are similar things for me.

i'm not trying to talk shit about skating or how rewarding it can be. i personally like meeting other people and finding out about the stuff their into and find peoples hobbies to be interesting. from my prespective a hobby isn't a negative, it's a positive. the more interesting adults you meet tend to have them.

[shark tits]

sleazy, did you call ian mckaye a poet?
i can't vouch for his skating acumen but i remember a thrasher interview where he said he'd put together a contest run [freestyle] to aerosmith's 'walking the dog'.
i don't even know that aerosmiith song but it's just the little ephemera you remember.
my therapist asked if i were happy yesterday.
i said no but i'm maybe prouder of myself than at any point in the past or more able to live w/ myself. maybe lots of people feel this way but i definitely see myself as different than normal folks so like what i'm into isn't comparable to other people my age. or it wouldn't compare favorably but i'm not in competition, not really aware of other people and normal goals most of the time.
like the bright eyes line 'i'm free to waste away alone' even though sometimes you'll be stuck w/ a broad for a while or whatever.
i'll definitely never own a house. i'm scared they're gonna cut my artist grant if i keep registering mopeds and then where will i be?
i already knocked up a bitch so i don't really care if my seamen are still shipworthy. i fulfilled my duty as an organism and existant on this globe.
i did a 360 flip yesterday, think i'm more worried about loosing those than not being able to get a boner [although i couldn't bust about a month ago and it sketched me enough to post about it]. for me at least getting to 30 assuages most fears, i maybe got complacent at being a crappy adult by then but it's better than being anxious about being a crappy adult and either way it's not like you're gonna change and be less crappy so better make peace w/ crap.

[glutton.]

I finally came to the realization that any relationship I have in a year or two will mostly be based on money.

[JB]

I finally came to the realization that any relationship I have in a year or two will mostly be based on money.

gotta get that money maine

[chockfullofthat]

the OP should start smoking

[iKobrakai]

the OP should start smoking

If you are talking about nicotine, I already suck down enough of that. And yes, I'm aware of the correlation between anxiety and smokes.

If you are talking about meth or crack, I done with that shit.

If you are talking about heroin, that's a fucking waste.

If you are talking about weed, I don't want to be a dipship stoner.

So, I'll just smoke cock.

[Jake From State Farm]

Bees

This. And ants. Also I don't like calling people on the phone.