yeah those spitfire vans defs aren't bootlegs, they are the low version of the mountain edition shoe that 3 or 4 pros really jumped on back when vans was enjoying the peak of the waffle sole resurgence. Max Schaff had a version too though? Personally I like the lace saver and am really surprised that vans, at least outside of Asia, didn't milk the high top version for all it's worth