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'motivation': etiquette question
« on: August 31, 2023, 04:15:29 AM »
the other day at the park i was stood near some bmx-ers. one (maybe late teens) was trying to encourage another one (maybe mid teens) to try some trick (dunno what). the younger one seemed a bit paranoid that the encouragement was a ruse and that he was being set up to eat shit.

an older dude (maybe early 20's) said he'd try it if the young dude tried it too. he declined. the guy restated the offer more insistently and the kid said something like 'but i don't give a fuck if you try it or not, i don't want to'.

the older guy was so sincerely offended that he was giving the kid some pretty spicy verbals back for quite a while after - to the point their crew all seemed to be feeling pretty awkward. the guy really seemed to feel some major code of honour had been horribly violated.

would you consider it a breach of etiquette to decline when the homies are offering some sort of motivational support to try some shit you're not feeling?

 

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Re: 'motivation': etiquette question
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2023, 04:45:16 AM »
kid sounds based as fuck imo

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Re: 'motivation': etiquette question
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2023, 04:57:46 AM »
Just sounds like a kid feeling cornered and probably already was having feeling self conscious for not trying it/knowing he wasn’t going to. We’ve all been there, he just verbalized it.

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Re: 'motivation': etiquette question
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2023, 04:59:28 AM »
Pressuring anybody into doing something they don't feel up to is weak as fuck.

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Re: 'motivation': etiquette question
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2023, 05:13:43 AM »
i’d consider it a breach of etiquette to pressure a teenager into trying something they’re clearly not feeling, doubly so if you get salty afterwards when they turn you down

yeah same. that's the common sense take.

it was really weird how offended the older guy was. it made me think they had some established code where you're honour-bound to try it if someone tries it with you. he really couldn't get his head round the idea that him offering to try it wasn't registering as a massive favour. he was responding like he'd cooked the kid a meal only to be told 'nah, i'm not hungry'.

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Re: 'motivation': etiquette question
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2023, 08:51:47 AM »
 Are y'all really that fried?
 Dude was obviously pissed with how the kid responded. I definitely wouldn't make a big deal out of it, but if someone acts a bitch about an attempted act of kindness I'm for sure gonna let them know.

 That being said, if someone's CLEARLY not into trying something, leave 'em the hell alone.

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Re: 'motivation': etiquette question
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2023, 08:58:31 AM »
People are really at the public skatepark acting like they've invited these people into their home for dinner.  Nobody has to be nice to you or return any energy you're giving, you're out in public act like it.  If you told someone on the bus playing on their phone "hell yeah, get that high score and I'll try to back it up!" and they told you to shut the fuck up and mind your own everyone would understand.
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Re: 'motivation': etiquette question
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2023, 09:48:59 AM »
What a toxic self important older guy?  You don’t say…..

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Re: 'motivation': etiquette question
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2023, 12:40:28 PM »
 Oh, y'all really are that fried.

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Re: 'motivation': etiquette question
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2023, 02:59:29 PM »
Fuck that old man

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Re: 'motivation': etiquette question
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2023, 03:56:23 PM »
No, I wouldn't. You are simply not feeling it, nothing wrong with declining whatsoever. The breach of etiquette here seems to be in the insistence part you mentioned; one 'no' is enough.

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Re: 'motivation': etiquette question
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2023, 05:32:56 PM »
Peer pressuring someone to try something is whack. I motivate my friends but if they don't want to try it then it's up to them. At the end of the day it's about having fun and not trying to be the next nyjah. Maybe it's different for BMXers.

At my local park I've never really vibes with the BMXers but the rollerbladers (yes they're still around) are all super cool and easy to get along with.

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Re: 'motivation': etiquette question
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2023, 05:56:23 PM »
Pressuring anybody into doing something they don't feel up to is weak as fuck.

This. As with drinking, so with skating.

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Re: 'motivation': etiquette question
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2023, 05:58:30 PM »
Sound like standard low IQ bmx behavior to me.

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Re: 'motivation': etiquette question
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2023, 05:59:38 PM »
if i was lucky enough to have an older skater encourage me to try something (they believe in me enough to think I can do it) i wouldn't be a whiny little bitch about it, i'd either do it or get broke off trying.  the guy was right to be offended, right to let the kid know he was being a wus, and the kid was being a huge loser. 
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Re: 'motivation': etiquette question
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2023, 06:03:18 PM »
Jack if you’re reading this you still owe me that free meal from Mexico Restaurant for dropping into that ditch in Southside like 3 years ago.
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Re: 'motivation': etiquette question
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2023, 02:22:11 PM »
if i was lucky enough to have an older skater encourage me to try something (they believe in me enough to think I can do it) i wouldn't be a whiny little bitch about it, i'd either do it or get broke off trying.  the guy was right to be offended, right to let the kid know he was being a wus, and the kid was being a huge loser.

 ??? on their adult bully shit lol
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Re: 'motivation': etiquette question
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2023, 05:13:42 AM »
BMX'ers are always so unnecessarily aggro

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Re: 'motivation': etiquette question
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2023, 07:16:11 AM »
Old dude sounds like a big baby

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Re: 'motivation': etiquette question
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2023, 10:09:24 AM »
An older guy caring so much what some random kid said to him that he let it get under his skin so bad to the point where he had to berate the kid? That’s an L.

If you’re an adult and you berate random kids at the skatepark for whatever reason, just know everyone there will think you’re a kook and will laugh at you.
They’re kids, you’re an adult. That’s reason enough to just take the higher road.

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Re: 'motivation': etiquette question
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2023, 01:14:26 PM »
If you’re not first you’re last.
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Re: 'motivation': etiquette question
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2023, 02:46:30 AM »
It's different with BMX. Broken bones and getting knocked out is par for the course. The guy was offering to join for Valhalla. In that perspective declining the invitation is very rude.

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Re: 'motivation': etiquette question
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2023, 03:34:16 AM »
There's a couple things at play here and some context that needs clarifying.

Did the two already know each other/were they part of the same crew? If so, it still isn't cool to pressure someone like that, but it's less weird to be invested in seeing someone you know accomplish something. If a stranger came up and gave me the ol "I'll do it if you do it," I'd be weirded out. That being said, I've definitely entered into that agreement with a good friend and I did feel like trying the trick alongside him not only helped me land it, but made the process much more enjoyable.

That brings us to another factor to consider: Was the trick something that could have resulted in serious injury? Way too gnarly in general, or just above the kids skill level/comfort zone? Recently a younger friend was on the cusp on learning rock to fakies. Admittedly, i dogged on him a bit to keep trying it because I knew he could do it, he really wanted it, and he'd safely bailed a million times. I still felt a little goofy about it, but I think that's completely different than egging someone on to do something too challenging or dangerous. Commitment is personal at the end of the day, and it's really only cool to help "hold the homie to it" if they're actually ready to try it. Even if someone could do something, if they're not down to try it, then that should be end of story. Especially if it's risky.

And finally, my last question: Why is the older bmxer from the story posting here?
 
Oh, y'all really are that fried.

Throwing a fit when the kid doesn't try the trick in this situation is inexcusable and embarrassing. Even if the two were the same age, it'd be cringe. Respect to the kid who stood up for himself.


Edit: it's okay to egg someone on if they're bunting. Like, say they claim they can nollie 360 flip over a spot that was recently featured in major videos/photos. Your friend is talking about a trick on par or more difficult than one done by a big name pro at the same spot that got significant coverage. He's so sure he can do it, he starts crowdsourcing funds to fly out to the spot and make it happen. There's a buzz online about the claim, and skate media platforms cover the buildup to his attempt only for him to suddenly disappear. In that situation, he should be pressured to actually try the trick by any means necessary.
« Last Edit: September 03, 2023, 03:44:11 AM by Urtripping »
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Re: 'motivation': etiquette question
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2023, 05:56:59 AM »
 Because children need to be belittled and disrespected at all times duh

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Re: 'motivation': etiquette question
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2023, 06:05:13 AM »
Leave them kids alone.