you know, this is kind of the "USA is number 1" redneck mentality in reverse. Not everything going on in the world, good or bad, can be attributed to you guys. As an exemple, France (I'm gonna stick to what I know here) had a socialist government voted in in 81, with communist ministers even (remember at that time the USSR was still around...and the French left was actually infiltrated by the KGB and sister eastern block agencies).
Big parts of the French banking sector were simply nationalized (edit: actually all French banks were nationalized, in 82). Which led to some massive bankrupcy a few years later, simply because of corruption, in the public sector. People in power get greedy, whether they operate in a capitalist system, socialist, whatever. I'll never forget seeing the archives of the Crédit Lyonnais (big nationalized french bank) going very suspiciously up in flames while I was walking down the street in Paris one day.
anyways.... to not ramble on too long, IMHO, thinking that capitalism = bad and socialism = good, (or the opposite!) is a very binary way to look at things. People were exploited way before we invented socialism or capitalism.
Finally, I gotta say if Duffy really supports Trump while living in Finland, that really takes the cake as far as lame shit goes. 
Mate, are you serious?! I thought your comments in that 'Israel's right to exist' thread were you on your most unhinged. And now you're picking fucking CREDIT LYONNAIS as your argument that nationalisation is bad, and therefore socialism is too (because of human nature, greediness, something something, blablabla), and so we'll have to pretend like that third way, end of history, centrist bullshit you advocate didn't already fail catastrophically in the early 2000's?
You were clearly smoking crack in the 80's and 90's, so let me refresh your memory. In the late '80's/early 90's Credit Lyonnais was the largest private bank in Europe, with Haberer as CEO (a personal buddy of later president Chirac, and an alumni of that famously anti-capitalist, working class bulwark, ENA). In 1992-1993 CL lost 9 billion franc almost overnight and two national rescue programs had to come in to save the bank from collapse, in 1995 and 1996, at an eventual total of 120 billion franc. That's privatization, impending death, nationalization, survival. In that order.
In 1995-1996, a parliamentary committee finds that irresponsible risk-taking in real estate investment is the main cause of CL's meltdown, and for good measure there's also been some shadow banking with offshore accounts, and some insider trading. Subsequently, France's finance minister issues an official complaint with regard to Haberer's role in all of this, as well as the role of France's previous finance minister Trichet (who would later become president of the ECB; a classic career trajectory for a hardline Bolshevik like him of course). Coincidentally, two Credit Lyonnais buildings miraculously go up in flames soon after. Those burnings that you painted so vividly a picture of happened to a (de facto) nationalized bank you could indeed say, but only because the state had júst come in to save the goddamn place, you eejit. The pricks burning those archives down weren't staunchly socialist 'public sector workers' (as you called them) who had been running a nationalized bank to the ground for over a decade; they were Haberer and his associates, making sure that those public sector workers wouldn't stumble on any incriminating records dating back to when the bank was not just a private institution, but the largest private banking institution in Europe at that time, before it went into meltdown.
p.s.: "You guys"? I'm not from the U.S.
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