cookie war and peace??

[honey island]

i feel like that interview just muddled up things even more, because I've heard from several people that he was bummed as fuck for being left out


feel like considering elements luke warm handling of the part, they have no plans to turn him pro anytime soon

[BMCsteve]

WTF " I'm just organizing liquor, soft drinks, helping out at the pool bar"

Dude has been incredible for years, just put out one of the best parts in recent memory for one of the biggest board companies on the planet and right now he's probably putting Pepsi cans into a fridge

I'm not sure if Element does long term contracts with their Ams, if he just has some blind loyalty toward them or if they have a Russian piss tape with him in it but there has to be some explanation why he isn't pro and isn't getting paid decently

[shit_for_brains]

He's a company man through and through. He had some Mt Dew stuff when he first came on the scene where he was doing the "I'm Sean Malto and I'll sell fuckin' anything" schtick. He won't say anything bad about any company or any person in an interview ever. Even when he got kicked off Huf for not being "cool" enough he was like "yknow just a difference of opinion I guess." He could want to kill Miner with a rock but he'd never say anything negative in an interview.

[honey island]

also 15 fucking filmers? are you insane?

[Roisto]

Element fucking up confirmed^3!


This part stoked me out more than anything in the Peace video and I actually really liked most of the parts on that.

[Monkey_Mcpott]

But Tyson is/was pro for element? Like who the fuck wants a Tyson board?

[RoaryMcTwang]

More power to him for being all zen about everything, but what the hell? There must be huge demand for his board now, it makes zero sense not to turn him pro after this.

[SLAPASONIC]

The guy doesn't fit Element, but he really doesn't fit anywhere really.

[honey island]

More power to him for being all zen about everything, but what the hell? There must be huge demand for his board now, it makes zero sense not to turn him pro after this.

from who? and what do you define as 'huge demand'?

the only discussion in relation to chris & pro, is people asking why he isn't pro. no one is asking for his board.

other than being a really good skateboarder, which isn't enough these days, there is nothing that is marketable about him. dude is as vanilla as they come.

[Nicki]

Summary: Cookie wanted to film, but Milner was busy with Julian, Tyson, etc as Cookie wasn’t a priority. Cookie hit up other filmers, told Miner what he got - but Miner couldn’t be fucked chasing it up, he didn’t film it, and edited Peace. When Miner got the footage, after Peace was finished, Miner realised he fucked up big time - and scambled to edited together a part to drop on Thrasher.

And if I bought an Element deck - it’d be a Cookie board for sure (first Element I would have bought since Markovich).

[EastCoastLove]

Genuine guy with a modest attitude towards life. Been waiting for a Cookie board for years. Make it happen

[SWPhillyFloater]

Element is really fucking up. Chris seems like a good guy just from reading the interview and always puts out amazing footage. No matter where he ends up I hope he gets a pro board, it's long overdue.

[somedudefromnj]

hat goes off to anyone chasing the pro dream but fuck that, you can make good money without putting your body on the line and still love skating at the same time

[everythingisgreat]

The guy doesn't fit Element, but he really doesn't fit anywhere really.

Cookie Skateboards

[johnes]

I want Cookie on girl.

[Idk]

I want Cookie on girl.

[Tyroneshoelaces]

FUCK ELEMENT FUCK MINER

Dude is a class act, humble and seems very gracious.  they turn Tyson Peterson pro??  the safe hands dude?  miner cuts Cookies footage cos he assumes it wasnt worth watching.

i know industry people lurk this board.  you are fucking up if you don't support this dude. 

[Sarcasm]

I want Cookie on girl.

It would make sense if he was on Chocolate then his graphic would be a chocolate chip cookie.

[shit_for_brains]

FUCK ELEMENT FUCK MINER

Dude is a class act, humble and seems very gracious. they turn Tyson Peterson pro??  the safe hands dude?  miner cuts Cookies footage cos he assumes it wasnt worth watching.

i know industry people lurk this board.  you are fucking up if you don't support this dude.

They turned him pro and didn't pay him what they owed if at all which is why he doesn't ride for them anymore.

[shannamal]

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FUCK ELEMENT FUCK MINER

Dude is a class act, humble and seems very gracious. they turn Tyson Peterson pro??  the safe hands dude?  miner cuts Cookies footage cos he assumes it wasnt worth watching.

i know industry people lurk this board.  you are fucking up if you don't support this dude.

[close]

They turned him pro and didn't pay him what they owed if at all which is why he doesn't ride for them anymore.

wait what? that's the juicy gossip i come here for!

[Ok]

Unpopular opinion: dude looks like a dork.  Not for me.

[jpmulls]

The guy doesn't fit Element, but he really doesn't fit anywhere really.

He fits on Worble but also deserves to paid

[GAY]

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Me want girl Cookie.

[close]

[natenola forever]

Miner is a crazy perfectionist with videos, I could really see a lot of this coming down to Miner hating the way Cookies filmers film, or what cameras they use or settings or whatever, and it coming down all parties deciding to put footage out separately. As far as filming goes Peace is as close to perfect as you can get. I'm willing to bet most of the dudes on the team have a lot of stuff that got left on the table for nothing more than Miner hating the filming. Watch the extras for Stay Gold and how many times Reynolds refilmed that line that  starts with a Nollie front three down a set of stairs.

[ihatejulio]

Miner is a crazy perfectionist with videos, I could really see a lot of this coming down to Miner hating the way Cookies filmers film, or what cameras they use or settings or whatever, and it coming down all parties deciding to put footage out separately. As far as filming goes Peace is as close to perfect as you can get. I'm willing to bet most of the dudes on the team have a lot of stuff that got left on the table for nothing more than Miner hating the filming. Watch the extras for Stay Gold and how many times Reynolds refilmed that line that  starts with a Nollie front three down a set of stairs.

Sorry but Miner is a weak ass director if he couldn't figure out how to fit Cookies footage in the Peace. He could have easily opened the video with Cookies standalone part as a clear separation from the rest of the video. Take Joslin's part in True. It feels as if that part was a separate entity entirely from the rest of the video even though they are edited together. Even with all the different filmers and filming styles, it is entirely possible Miner could have just placed his part first as a separation between the rest of Peace. What you don't do is leave the guy out of the video entirely and demoralize the guy on premiere night.   

Also, Cookies part was filmed really well, so Miner's little predilection to consider only his footage valuable is narcissistic and short-sighted.

[Tyroneshoelaces]

Reynolds' redos were at the demand of Reynolds himself.  He has said so in any interview post stay gold that ask him about it.  Stop trying to make miner seem like saint.  Dude blew it, straight up.

[bongboarder420]

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More power to him for being all zen about everything, but what the hell? There must be huge demand for his board now, it makes zero sense not to turn him pro after this.

[close]

from who? and what do you define as 'huge demand'?

the only discussion in relation to chris & pro, is people asking why he isn't pro. no one is asking for his board.

other than being a really good skateboarder, which isn't enough these days, there is nothing that is marketable about him. dude is as vanilla as they come.

Every comment on their ig posts about the video part, people are asking why he isn’t pro and that they should turn him pro

[johnes]

Remember when Ty did this to McCrank?
Rick thought he was gonna have like 3 tricks and a line in pretty sweet and was at the premier so insanely bummed that he went back to the hotel room and didn’t talk to anyone for the rest of the night.
This must be such an awful fucking feeling.

[Ok]

He has a wack style. It isn’t cool looking. Obviously the tricks are intense. There is a market for almost anything, I can’t see how his would be big though. His skating is extreme so he’s not exactly relatable, and it’s just not fun to watch. Maybe there’s a bunch of overachieving dorks that are feeling him

[The Ghost of Lenny Kirk]

i dont get it. that part was nuts, if u cut it down by 3 minutes its still nuts. he has a strong connection to those Illegal Civ/FA dudes so hes good from a branding perspective despite being an awkward white dude.

did something murky happen off the books? money issues? element really blew it for themselves as much as they blew it for colburn. not sure what the excuse is.