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bigger/softer duro = faster
the correct answer for wheel based questions is spitfire formula four.
Quote from: Hercules Rockefeller on April 19, 2019, 01:54:38 PMExpand Quotethe correct answer for wheel based questions is spitfire formula four.[close]Been riding conical full which i like but the width is a real bitch for power slides. Also i only rode conical full so i wondered what else was worth trying. Last wheel size was 53, which is about 50-49mm right now. I dont like to grind my wheels down to the bone, haha
the correct answer for wheel based questions is spitfire formula four.[close]
Quote from: sneakpeakmeek on April 19, 2019, 01:41:13 PMExpand Quotebigger/softer duro = faster[close]Super dependent on surface you are skating. If it's rough (shitty pavement) softer = faster. If it's smooth (baby bottom smooth concrete parks) harder=faster.
bigger/softer duro = faster[close]
Quote from: papo on April 19, 2019, 02:17:49 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Hercules Rockefeller on April 19, 2019, 01:54:38 PMExpand Quotethe correct answer for wheel based questions is spitfire formula four.[close]Been riding conical full which i like but the width is a real bitch for power slides. Also i only rode conical full so i wondered what else was worth trying. Last wheel size was 53, which is about 50-49mm right now. I dont like to grind my wheels down to the bone, haha[close]Try radials
Quote from: Hercules Rockefeller on April 19, 2019, 01:54:38 PMExpand Quotethe correct answer for wheel based questions is spitfire formula four.[close]Been riding conical full which i like but the width is a real bitch for power slides. Also i only rode conical full so i wondered what else was worth trying. Last wheel size was 53, which is about 50-49mm right now. I dont like to grind my wheels down to the bone, haha[close]
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bigger/softer duro = fasterSmaller/harder duro = slowersofter duro/wider contact patch = grippierharder duro/small contact patch = more slidy
Quote from: Weon on April 12, 2019, 06:56:20 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Roisto on April 09, 2019, 11:56:57 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: Number on April 09, 2019, 08:42:49 AMExpand QuoteIm sure this has been asked before, if so please direct to correct page number. But can someone crack an egg of knowledge on the difference and purpose of the radial,conical, etc. Been skating some 99a classic Spits. I usually stick to ledges and rails. Was looking to give the Sfw's a try. I like the look of a wider wheel, but wondering other than grip what they excel in. Thanks[close]Width of the wheel has nothing to do with grip. A wider wheel will roll over crummy ground better than a narrower one. Wider also wears down slower cuz there's more material to wear down. Wheels shape can help you lock into grinds or get into slappies etc.[close]this has never made sense to me. you'd think if you have two wheels of the same formula and duro, the wider wheel would be grippier bc of higher probability of contact? i guess that assumes wherever you're skating is not a perfectly flat surface. or, on the other hand, would a slimmer wheel distribute/concentrate the same weight on a smaller riding surface which could increase grip? or maybe its not even friction but the torque applied to the edges of the wheel which would be determined by the distance from the axle? idk these are random thoughts (and i almost failed general physics II) it's just hard to imagine width has nothing to do with grip.[close]Yeah, I know it's kinda counterintuitive for some reason. Took me a while to get too. But the thing is that the weight bearing down to the ground is distributed over a larger area with a wider wheel so per mm^2 in a wider wheel the friction is less but as the wider wheel has more area, the overall grip (friction) will stay the same. If the friction per mm^2 would keep the same, then widening the wheel would make it more grippy but it doesn't due to the force pressing down on the wheel distributing over a larger area.I think this is a nice explanation:https://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae140.cfmI've also posted this video many times before. It has a decent example of what is going on IMO:
Quote from: Roisto on April 09, 2019, 11:56:57 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: Number on April 09, 2019, 08:42:49 AMExpand QuoteIm sure this has been asked before, if so please direct to correct page number. But can someone crack an egg of knowledge on the difference and purpose of the radial,conical, etc. Been skating some 99a classic Spits. I usually stick to ledges and rails. Was looking to give the Sfw's a try. I like the look of a wider wheel, but wondering other than grip what they excel in. Thanks[close]Width of the wheel has nothing to do with grip. A wider wheel will roll over crummy ground better than a narrower one. Wider also wears down slower cuz there's more material to wear down. Wheels shape can help you lock into grinds or get into slappies etc.[close]this has never made sense to me. you'd think if you have two wheels of the same formula and duro, the wider wheel would be grippier bc of higher probability of contact? i guess that assumes wherever you're skating is not a perfectly flat surface. or, on the other hand, would a slimmer wheel distribute/concentrate the same weight on a smaller riding surface which could increase grip? or maybe its not even friction but the torque applied to the edges of the wheel which would be determined by the distance from the axle? idk these are random thoughts (and i almost failed general physics II) it's just hard to imagine width has nothing to do with grip.[close]
Quote from: Number on April 09, 2019, 08:42:49 AMExpand QuoteIm sure this has been asked before, if so please direct to correct page number. But can someone crack an egg of knowledge on the difference and purpose of the radial,conical, etc. Been skating some 99a classic Spits. I usually stick to ledges and rails. Was looking to give the Sfw's a try. I like the look of a wider wheel, but wondering other than grip what they excel in. Thanks[close]Width of the wheel has nothing to do with grip. A wider wheel will roll over crummy ground better than a narrower one. Wider also wears down slower cuz there's more material to wear down. Wheels shape can help you lock into grinds or get into slappies etc.[close]
Im sure this has been asked before, if so please direct to correct page number. But can someone crack an egg of knowledge on the difference and purpose of the radial,conical, etc. Been skating some 99a classic Spits. I usually stick to ledges and rails. Was looking to give the Sfw's a try. I like the look of a wider wheel, but wondering other than grip what they excel in. Thanks[close]
Quote from: baustin on April 19, 2019, 03:14:17 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: papo on April 19, 2019, 02:17:49 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Hercules Rockefeller on April 19, 2019, 01:54:38 PMExpand Quotethe correct answer for wheel based questions is spitfire formula four.[close]Been riding conical full which i like but the width is a real bitch for power slides. Also i only rode conical full so i wondered what else was worth trying. Last wheel size was 53, which is about 50-49mm right now. I dont like to grind my wheels down to the bone, haha[close]Try radials[close]Slim or regular? The slim ones appear more slideable and faster?
Quote from: papo on April 19, 2019, 02:17:49 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Hercules Rockefeller on April 19, 2019, 01:54:38 PMExpand Quotethe correct answer for wheel based questions is spitfire formula four.[close]Been riding conical full which i like but the width is a real bitch for power slides. Also i only rode conical full so i wondered what else was worth trying. Last wheel size was 53, which is about 50-49mm right now. I dont like to grind my wheels down to the bone, haha[close]Try radials[close]
Quote from: sneakpeakmeek on April 19, 2019, 01:41:13 PMExpand Quotebigger/softer duro = fasterSmaller/harder duro = slowersofter duro/wider contact patch = grippierharder duro/small contact patch = more slidy[close]Incorrect. See below:Quote from: Roisto on April 12, 2019, 11:40:14 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Weon on April 12, 2019, 06:56:20 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Roisto on April 09, 2019, 11:56:57 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: Number on April 09, 2019, 08:42:49 AMExpand QuoteIm sure this has been asked before, if so please direct to correct page number. But can someone crack an egg of knowledge on the difference and purpose of the radial,conical, etc. Been skating some 99a classic Spits. I usually stick to ledges and rails. Was looking to give the Sfw's a try. I like the look of a wider wheel, but wondering other than grip what they excel in. Thanks[close]Width of the wheel has nothing to do with grip. A wider wheel will roll over crummy ground better than a narrower one. Wider also wears down slower cuz there's more material to wear down. Wheels shape can help you lock into grinds or get into slappies etc.[close]this has never made sense to me. you'd think if you have two wheels of the same formula and duro, the wider wheel would be grippier bc of higher probability of contact? i guess that assumes wherever you're skating is not a perfectly flat surface. or, on the other hand, would a slimmer wheel distribute/concentrate the same weight on a smaller riding surface which could increase grip? or maybe its not even friction but the torque applied to the edges of the wheel which would be determined by the distance from the axle? idk these are random thoughts (and i almost failed general physics II) it's just hard to imagine width has nothing to do with grip.[close]Yeah, I know it's kinda counterintuitive for some reason. Took me a while to get too. But the thing is that the weight bearing down to the ground is distributed over a larger area with a wider wheel so per mm^2 in a wider wheel the friction is less but as the wider wheel has more area, the overall grip (friction) will stay the same. If the friction per mm^2 would keep the same, then widening the wheel would make it more grippy but it doesn't due to the force pressing down on the wheel distributing over a larger area.I think this is a nice explanation:https://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae140.cfmI've also posted this video many times before. It has a decent example of what is going on IMO:[close]
bigger/softer duro = fasterSmaller/harder duro = slowersofter duro/wider contact patch = grippierharder duro/small contact patch = more slidy[close]
Quote from: Weon on April 12, 2019, 06:56:20 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Roisto on April 09, 2019, 11:56:57 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: Number on April 09, 2019, 08:42:49 AMExpand QuoteIm sure this has been asked before, if so please direct to correct page number. But can someone crack an egg of knowledge on the difference and purpose of the radial,conical, etc. Been skating some 99a classic Spits. I usually stick to ledges and rails. Was looking to give the Sfw's a try. I like the look of a wider wheel, but wondering other than grip what they excel in. Thanks[close]Width of the wheel has nothing to do with grip. A wider wheel will roll over crummy ground better than a narrower one. Wider also wears down slower cuz there's more material to wear down. Wheels shape can help you lock into grinds or get into slappies etc.[close]this has never made sense to me. you'd think if you have two wheels of the same formula and duro, the wider wheel would be grippier bc of higher probability of contact? i guess that assumes wherever you're skating is not a perfectly flat surface. or, on the other hand, would a slimmer wheel distribute/concentrate the same weight on a smaller riding surface which could increase grip? or maybe its not even friction but the torque applied to the edges of the wheel which would be determined by the distance from the axle? idk these are random thoughts (and i almost failed general physics II) it's just hard to imagine width has nothing to do with grip.[close]Yeah, I know it's kinda counterintuitive for some reason. Took me a while to get too. But the thing is that the weight bearing down to the ground is distributed over a larger area with a wider wheel so per mm^2 in a wider wheel the friction is less but as the wider wheel has more area, the overall grip (friction) will stay the same. If the friction per mm^2 would keep the same, then widening the wheel would make it more grippy but it doesn't due to the force pressing down on the wheel distributing over a larger area.I think this is a nice explanation:https://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae140.cfmI've also posted this video many times before. It has a decent example of what is going on IMO:[close]
Quote from: papo on April 19, 2019, 02:17:49 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Hercules Rockefeller on April 19, 2019, 01:54:38 PMExpand Quotethe correct answer for wheel based questions is spitfire formula four.[close]Been riding conical full which i like but the width is a real bitch for power slides. Also i only rode conical full so i wondered what else was worth trying. Last wheel size was 53, which is about 50-49mm right now. I dont like to grind my wheels down to the bone, haha[close]you had problems with powersliding on f4s? conical fulls are the only shape i ride, and i haven't had any problems with doing powerslides on them, ever (54mm 99a). best wheels i've ever skated.
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