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Re: Pal’s jobs and skateboarding
« Reply #120 on: May 14, 2019, 09:52:08 AM »
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Seeing "success" in this thread has me knowing I'm living life the wrong way at 24
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Re: Pal’s jobs and skateboarding
« Reply #121 on: May 14, 2019, 10:04:10 AM »
I swear I have no idea what half of these job titles mean.

To all the guys with complicated/technical sounding jobs - how did you end up where you are? I've never had any idea of what I would do for a legit "career", so I've been stuck in low paying jobs I hate my whole life. It sounds like plenty of you make good money, and I'm curious how you decided on your career paths in the first place. I don't picture many young guys thinking to themselves 'I wanna be an integrated marketing systems analyst when I grow up', because who even knows what that is?!

I always thought I'd be able to find a good/fulfilling job in the skate industry when I was younger - NOPE. The skate industry sucks ass. Once I figured that out I couldn't really think of anything in particular that interested me, career wise, so I've been spinning my wheels in dead end warehouse management jobs (non-skate) ever since. I've always been poor, so I can't afford school, and frankly it's hard to even consider taking on massive debt when nothing really appeals to me.

Really hoping I can transition into video editing as a career - just feel like I may need some sort of training to fill in the knowledge gaps that only editing skate videos has left me with.

Advice? Being over 40 and living with room mates is depressing.

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Re: Pal’s jobs and skateboarding
« Reply #122 on: May 14, 2019, 10:15:48 AM »
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I work as an independent insurance broker. Before that I was cooking and running a bakery, which I left due to burnout and the fact that my wife and I wanted to have kids. The schedule is good for skating - I make my own hours so I if I want to hit the park in the morning I can just make up for it later. That's been slower lately since we have a baby but when she's a bit older it should get back to having some free time.
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I am an insurance underwriter. Been doing it oddly for 10 years when I was just a temp pretty much being their receptionist at a huge fucking company at the time before the recession. Hate the job personal but as you stated, it's good for having a family. I just had a daughter and my wife is going to be off for like 5-6 months while I get to work at home a lot. Mentally it's draining cause I always think I can do something more creative (I went to school for graphic design) hate working white collard jobs but it pays good money and the Bay Area is expensive as shit.
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Claims here.....can't say I hate it...but I can't say I love it.  It's steady though and I wrote for a Canadian skate mag for years and could have easily slipped into 'the industry'. I thank my lucky stars all the time I didn't do that and kept one foot in the office.  Doing both I got all my creativity out of me and still got to buy a condo....

There's definitely days....no doubt.....oh....no one knows I skate, I'm ok with that.  Most people that I skate with don't know what I do for a living....I'm guessing no one gives a shit....

I always think that too. I applied to Street Corner distribution to be a catalog designer of some sorts right after collage and hated how they never hired me. I wouldn't go as far as saying that was a dream job but I guess I dodged a bullet since they have gone under now.


Advice? Being over 40 and living with room mates is depressing.

This is how I did it but I am not sure if this applies or other industries. I went to a temp agency. The temp agency I worked with plugged me into corporate jobs with my limited experience. Most of it is office services stuff (printing, mailing out internal packages, file distribution in the office, etc) but it gets you trained in that "white collared world". From there, I was fortunate to know some internal HR people and they liked me enough to want to send me job listings that I think I could apply to. There was one that was just an assistant job and I got hired (mostly due to offering me a low salary) and I worked from the ground up. 10 years climbing the ladder and 4 companies later, I where I am now.

And I know a lot of people that are killing it as freelancers whether it be a photographer, DJ, graphic designer etc but this is in the Bay Area where people don't think twice to pay top dollar to get something they see on Etsy. But if you have a skill set, try and whore yourself out in the online market.
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« Reply #123 on: May 14, 2019, 10:40:19 AM »
^ Thanks for that. I've done so many random jobs that I actually have a lot of skills, so maybe the temp agency approach or entry level corpo world job may be a decent idea. I know video editing can pay well also, and I already have some background there so I'm still gonna see if I can finesse my way into doing that first, but I really appreciate the insight.

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Re: Pal’s jobs and skateboarding
« Reply #124 on: May 14, 2019, 10:46:06 AM »
well, I'm a Virgo, 41 years of age. Favourite colour is grey, fav number is 3.
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I owned a skate shop form 1998 to 2007 or 8... a few hiccups in there with a break in ... that I took far to personal and shut down for a year.

Then when the shop had to close for good I struggled... Linus syndrome. Eventually ending up as a support worker for over a decade. That job is amazing... I think any patient skateboarder can excel at it. You just show up tp work and be yourself, help people out... it's almost as if being a skater prepares you for that job... but you need patience and know how to fight fires with water, not fire.

Eventually though my skate injuries caught up to me. And so I lost my patience... in turn my wife split and I got burnt out at work. Then I got for real injured... 2 years later it leads me to this post looking for work again. Linus syndrome has snuck up on me and I have no clue what to do at this moment.

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Re: Pal’s jobs and skateboarding
« Reply #125 on: May 14, 2019, 10:50:39 AM »
Really hoping I can transition into video editing as a career - just feel like I may need some sort of training to fill in the knowledge gaps that only editing skate videos has left me with.

I'm 27 and work as a video editor at a mobile game studio.

I've been making skate videos since I was a little kid and learned 10 times more about editing from that than I did at film school. In my experience, having a degree/diploma on a resume (especially as an editor) is more important than a good reel if you don't have a bunch of previous non-skate work/references. I worked at a skate distribution at one point, and even though I've made a handful of full lengths/edits/tour clips/etc, they told me that one of the big reasons I was hired is because I was a film school grad. If people in the skate industry care about shit like that so much, you can only imagine how much a real-life-non-skate company would.

I'd probably recommend taking some kind of cheap or free online course so that you can add it to a resume, even though it may not mean too much to you personally. I also applied for dozens and dozens of jobs before I randomly got this video game job without actually applying and with 0 experience. Sometimes you just get lucky.

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Re: Pal’s jobs and skateboarding
« Reply #126 on: May 14, 2019, 10:57:40 AM »
I work on the public policy team for a non-profit. Current administration makes our work tough, but I feel like my work has an impact. No coworkers skate, but they don’t mind that I keep my board at my desk.

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Re: Pal’s jobs and skateboarding
« Reply #127 on: May 14, 2019, 11:01:00 AM »
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Re: Pal’s jobs and skateboarding
« Reply #128 on: May 14, 2019, 11:14:27 AM »
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Really hoping I can transition into video editing as a career - just feel like I may need some sort of training to fill in the knowledge gaps that only editing skate videos has left me with.
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I'm 27 and work as a video editor at a mobile game studio.

I've been making skate videos since I was a little kid and learned 10 times more about editing from that than I did at film school. In my experience, having a degree/diploma on a resume (especially as an editor) is more important than a good reel if you don't have a bunch of previous non-skate work/references. I worked at a skate distribution at one point, and even though I've made a handful of full lengths/edits/tour clips/etc, they told me that one of the big reasons I was hired is because I was a film school grad. If people in the skate industry care about shit like that so much, you can only imagine how much a real-life-non-skate company would.

I'd probably recommend taking some kind of cheap or free online course so that you can add it to a resume, even though it may not mean too much to you personally. I also applied for dozens and dozens of jobs before I randomly got this video game job without actually applying and with 0 experience. Sometimes you just get lucky.

Thanks! I read that whole reply before I realized it was you, haha. Two of my other friends with jobs in video editing (Drunk History, the other full time freelancer) told me somewhat similar things. I'm worried that I won't like video editing at all if it's not my own skate projects, but I'm not sure what else to do at this point. I did the film industry orientation course at Cap College years ago and left halfway through because the pretentious attitude was through the roof - so that's also been a concern about getting into editing. I have zero desire to work in the film industry. Kinda just thinking of skills I already have that I can expand on to make better money.

I already tried to get into a school via applying for student loans, and the loans didn't even cover the tuition, so I have to figure out something I can work my way up in with what experience I already have.

You get that job though Benny? 

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Re: Pal’s jobs and skateboarding
« Reply #129 on: May 14, 2019, 11:20:48 AM »
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I just moved to North Wilmington, DE where are the spots. I'm currently trying to get friendly at Kinetic

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Re: Pal’s jobs and skateboarding
« Reply #130 on: May 14, 2019, 11:39:17 AM »
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Really hoping I can transition into video editing as a career - just feel like I may need some sort of training to fill in the knowledge gaps that only editing skate videos has left me with.
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I'm 27 and work as a video editor at a mobile game studio.

I've been making skate videos since I was a little kid and learned 10 times more about editing from that than I did at film school. In my experience, having a degree/diploma on a resume (especially as an editor) is more important than a good reel if you don't have a bunch of previous non-skate work/references. I worked at a skate distribution at one point, and even though I've made a handful of full lengths/edits/tour clips/etc, they told me that one of the big reasons I was hired is because I was a film school grad. If people in the skate industry care about shit like that so much, you can only imagine how much a real-life-non-skate company would.

I'd probably recommend taking some kind of cheap or free online course so that you can add it to a resume, even though it may not mean too much to you personally. I also applied for dozens and dozens of jobs before I randomly got this video game job without actually applying and with 0 experience. Sometimes you just get lucky.
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Thanks! I read that whole reply before I realized it was you, haha. Two of my other friends with jobs in video editing (Drunk History, the other full time freelancer) told me somewhat similar things. I'm worried that I won't like video editing at all if it's not my own skate projects, but I'm not sure what else to do at this point. I did the film industry orientation course at Cap College years ago and left halfway through because the pretentious attitude was through the roof - so that's also been a concern about getting into editing. I have zero desire to work in the film industry. Kinda just thinking of skills I already have that I can expand on to make better money.

I already tried to get into a school via applying for student loans, and the loans didn't even cover the tuition, so I have to figure out something I can work my way up in with what experience I already have.

You get that job though Benny? 
Ah I didn't realize who this was until I checked your previous posts haha.

I learned early on that "work" is "work" and the goal is to make the client/employer happy, even if it's with a final product that I'm not happy with. I'm at the point now where I'm trusted enough that I can usually make things that I'm actually stoked on, but every now and then I have to just bite my tongue. At the end of the day, they are the people paying me, and I'm just here to provide a service.

I felt the same about film school too, but just kind of did my own thing and got through it. It helped me realize that I didn't want to work in the "real" film industry, as much as I enjoy making videos and stuff. Working at a small studio is really nice since I'm the only video person and I can just sit and work and listen to music all day. I never would have guessed this is what I'd end up doing though.

And yeah, Benny basically got me a contract job at a different studio a few years ago. It went out of business pretty soon after which led to me getting hired by a small studio with some of the same staff (not him or the other skaters there unfortunately).

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« Reply #131 on: May 14, 2019, 11:50:37 AM »
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Really hoping I can transition into video editing as a career - just feel like I may need some sort of training to fill in the knowledge gaps that only editing skate videos has left me with.
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I'm 27 and work as a video editor at a mobile game studio.

I've been making skate videos since I was a little kid and learned 10 times more about editing from that than I did at film school. In my experience, having a degree/diploma on a resume (especially as an editor) is more important than a good reel if you don't have a bunch of previous non-skate work/references. I worked at a skate distribution at one point, and even though I've made a handful of full lengths/edits/tour clips/etc, they told me that one of the big reasons I was hired is because I was a film school grad. If people in the skate industry care about shit like that so much, you can only imagine how much a real-life-non-skate company would.

I'd probably recommend taking some kind of cheap or free online course so that you can add it to a resume, even though it may not mean too much to you personally. I also applied for dozens and dozens of jobs before I randomly got this video game job without actually applying and with 0 experience. Sometimes you just get lucky.
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Thanks! I read that whole reply before I realized it was you, haha. Two of my other friends with jobs in video editing (Drunk History, the other full time freelancer) told me somewhat similar things. I'm worried that I won't like video editing at all if it's not my own skate projects, but I'm not sure what else to do at this point. I did the film industry orientation course at Cap College years ago and left halfway through because the pretentious attitude was through the roof - so that's also been a concern about getting into editing. I have zero desire to work in the film industry. Kinda just thinking of skills I already have that I can expand on to make better money.

I already tried to get into a school via applying for student loans, and the loans didn't even cover the tuition, so I have to figure out something I can work my way up in with what experience I already have.

You get that job though Benny? 
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Ah I didn't realize who this was until I checked your previous posts haha.

I learned early on that "work" is "work" and the goal is to make the client/employer happy, even if it's with a final product that I'm not happy with. I'm at the point now where I'm trusted enough that I can usually make things that I'm actually stoked on, but every now and then I have to just bite my tongue. At the end of the day, they are the people paying me, and I'm just here to provide a service.

I felt the same about film school too, but just kind of did my own thing and got through it. It helped me realize that I didn't want to work in the "real" film industry, as much as I enjoy making videos and stuff. Working at a small studio is really nice since I'm the only video person and I can just sit and work and listen to music all day. I never would have guessed this is what I'd end up doing though.

And yeah, Benny basically got me a contract job at a different studio a few years ago. It went out of business pretty soon after which led to me getting hired by a small studio with some of the same staff (not him or the other skaters there unfortunately).

Thanks again for all that. I definitely couldn't go to VFS, cause I'm not rich, but I'm getting ei right now while my job is on break and curious if I can get ei to pay for a course (my good friend had ei put him through school last year) that's relevant. I think BCIT has a tv/video program, and that's where ei paid for my friend to go for pipe fitting or whatever it was he took.

You're right that employers love to see degrees etc on a resume - some Mag Minutes probably aren't gonna sway the corpo world, lol. I do have to put together some sort of CV though, I guess.

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Re: Pal’s jobs and skateboarding
« Reply #132 on: May 14, 2019, 11:53:29 AM »
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I currently work in logistics as a freight broker. talking to truck drivers all day. I go into the office @ 7 Monday thru Friday and get off @ 4. most of my friends still work in restaurants so its hard to find people to skate when I get off
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I live about 2 hours from where all my skate friends are. I feel your pain, you can only skate alone at the park so many times.

Making friends after 30 is weird
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I do IT work for a health insurance company. It's not exactly what I expected to be doing when I was growing up but I am really grateful for my job. I work full time and they treat me well. I'm usually pretty busy with work, but I go on slap every once and while during my breaks or lunch.

I skate a few times a week weather permitting. My normal sesh time is weekend mornings 8 am to 10 am. I worked nights for like 5.5 years but all this sitting at a desk does make it hard for me to warm up.


I feel like anyone who works in an office knows they have to have some kind of website to lurk to distract you from the fact that youre at work. Don't know why its specific to office/corporate life but it is. when i worked in restaurants/odd jobs i didnt really need anything to pass the time

Also, all this sitting at a desk for 8-9 hours a day really takes a toll on your body. You eat out more and are less physically active. Currently tryna fight the beer/fast food gut comin in.

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Re: Pal’s jobs and skateboarding
« Reply #133 on: May 14, 2019, 11:57:44 AM »

I always think that too. I applied to Street Corner distribution to be a catalog designer of some sorts right after collage and hated how they never hired me. I wouldn't go as far as saying that was a dream job but I guess I dodged a bullet since they have gone under now.


I remember I really wanted to work at Street Corner as well. Well, at least until my sales rep told me he was in his 30s and was living with a few of the guys on the team. I thought to myself there is no way I want to be 30 something and living with 17-22 year olds skaters.

The industry is brutal. It never ceases to amaze me how small the companies actually are and how little most of the employees get paid.

I have two suggestions. Have a portfolio of some sort that shows your thought process. Even more important is that you are visible at your local UX events. Mingle, talk design, become familiar. After a few events people will start giving you leads on shit. You want to be in consideration for stuff before it's posted on the job boards.

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Re: Pal’s jobs and skateboarding
« Reply #134 on: May 14, 2019, 12:40:00 PM »
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I always think that too. I applied to Street Corner distribution to be a catalog designer of some sorts right after collage and hated how they never hired me. I wouldn't go as far as saying that was a dream job but I guess I dodged a bullet since they have gone under now.

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I remember I really wanted to work at Street Corner as well. Well, at least until my sales rep told me he was in his 30s and was living with a few of the guys on the team. I thought to myself there is no way I want to be 30 something and living with 17-22 year olds skaters.

The industry is brutal. It never ceases to amaze me how small the companies actually are and how little most of the employees get paid.

The funny thing too is the guys that were the graphic designers at the time went to SF State where I went to school and didn't know general things about the skateboard industry. Granted that is not why they hire designers in general but from what they told me, they never talk to riders when they do graphics and just do things that they think presents the company well.

They made these graphics and I think they left shortly after I had my interview.



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« Reply #135 on: May 14, 2019, 12:40:39 PM »
Used to be an apprentice for Pluhowski but haven't worked much this year because I was finishing grad school. Any NYC pals wanna send a man a job, hit me up ;)

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« Reply #136 on: May 14, 2019, 12:55:42 PM »
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I currently work in logistics as a freight broker. talking to truck drivers all day. I go into the office @ 7 Monday thru Friday and get off @ 4. most of my friends still work in restaurants so its hard to find people to skate when I get off
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I live about 2 hours from where all my skate friends are. I feel your pain, you can only skate alone at the park so many times.

Making friends after 30 is weird
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I do IT work for a health insurance company. It's not exactly what I expected to be doing when I was growing up but I am really grateful for my job. I work full time and they treat me well. I'm usually pretty busy with work, but I go on slap every once and while during my breaks or lunch.

I skate a few times a week weather permitting. My normal sesh time is weekend mornings 8 am to 10 am. I worked nights for like 5.5 years but all this sitting at a desk does make it hard for me to warm up.

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I feel like anyone who works in an office knows they have to have some kind of website to lurk to distract you from the fact that youre at work. Don't know why its specific to office/corporate life but it is. when i worked in restaurants/odd jobs i didnt really need anything to pass the time

Also, all this sitting at a desk for 8-9 hours a day really takes a toll on your body. You eat out more and are less physically active. Currently tryna fight the beer/fast food gut comin in.

This is not a guaranteed at all. I'm at a desk 30 hours/week with the remaining 10-15 hours off-site. I make my own coffee and lunch from home every single day. It's not that hard.

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« Reply #137 on: May 14, 2019, 12:59:35 PM »
I swear I have no idea what half of these job titles mean.

To all the guys with complicated/technical sounding jobs - how did you end up where you are? I've never had any idea of what I would do for a legit "career", so I've been stuck in low paying jobs I hate my whole life. It sounds like plenty of you make good money, and I'm curious how you decided on your career paths in the first place. I don't picture many young guys thinking to themselves 'I wanna be an integrated marketing systems analyst when I grow up', because who even knows what that is?!

I always thought I'd be able to find a good/fulfilling job in the skate industry when I was younger - NOPE. The skate industry sucks ass. Once I figured that out I couldn't really think of anything in particular that interested me, career wise, so I've been spinning my wheels in dead end warehouse management jobs (non-skate) ever since. I've always been poor, so I can't afford school, and frankly it's hard to even consider taking on massive debt when nothing really appeals to me.

Really hoping I can transition into video editing as a career - just feel like I may need some sort of training to fill in the knowledge gaps that only editing skate videos has left me with.

Advice? Being over 40 and living with room mates is depressing.
For creative fields, nobody gives a shit about a degree. If your reel/portfolio is good, if you can talk about your craft in a professional way, and if you can make a deadline, it doesn't matter if you learned it on YouTube or film school. You may have to slug it out as a temp/contractor for a couple years and you won't make as much as a degreed person at first. Work your ass off on every gig. Experience and client satisfaction is the only currency that matters.

As far as filling gaps in your knowledge, go to your library and get a physical library card. Lynda.com gives free access to all of their tutorials if your library is a part of their program, which it probably is if you're in a decent sized city. But you need an actual real library card.

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Re: Pal’s jobs and skateboarding
« Reply #138 on: May 14, 2019, 01:36:39 PM »
Used to be an apprentice for Pluhowski but haven't worked much this year because I was finishing grad school. Any NYC pals wanna send a man a job, hit me up ;)
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Re: Pal’s jobs and skateboarding
« Reply #139 on: May 14, 2019, 06:41:42 PM »
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I usually skate plazas on weekday afternoons and in the evenings on weekends.
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I just moved to North Wilmington, DE where are the spots. I'm currently trying to get friendly at Kinetic

Good people at Kinetic. I live in South Philly, but 7th Street in Wilmington is a fun little park.
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« Reply #140 on: May 14, 2019, 08:31:17 PM »
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« Reply #141 on: May 14, 2019, 08:39:11 PM »
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Used to be an apprentice for Pluhowski but haven't worked much this year because I was finishing grad school. Any NYC pals wanna send a man a job, hit me up ;)
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Nice. Pluhowski is a sick woodworker and the furniture he makes is dope. His kickflip and nollie fs flips are dope too.

You better not come back here and tell us you're apprenticing for popps....

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Re: Pal’s jobs and skateboarding
« Reply #142 on: May 14, 2019, 08:46:22 PM »
Advice? Being over 40 and living with room mates is depressing.

The only advice I can offer is definitely start building up a CV, and definitely take any volunteer positions you can find that are close to videography/video editing/anything else you like. Volunteer work helps immensely. So basic, but I wish I'd absorbed that wisdom earlier on in life.

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Re: Pal’s jobs and skateboarding
« Reply #143 on: May 14, 2019, 10:00:40 PM »
Actor, director, producer.
Damn. When do you find the time to skate? Bummer about Friends From College.

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Re: Pal’s jobs and skateboarding
« Reply #144 on: May 14, 2019, 11:41:13 PM »
Urban/environmental planner right here (and long time slap lurker). Work remotely from home part time with no need to ever go to the office and have the kids with me full time so not much skating beyond the occasional Friday night at the park or out the back it’s the kids. Also got a few rental properties on the side I’ve renovated and rented out. All in all it’s not too bad down here

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Re: Pal’s jobs and skateboarding
« Reply #145 on: May 15, 2019, 01:01:17 AM »
Work on the creative team as a photographer for a pretty big streetwear/luxury menswear retailer.

A whole lot of skateboarders who I grew up with work in the warehouse, and one of the stylists here skates too, and if we need to shoot some Vans or something me and him just use it as a reason to go skate.

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Re: Pal’s jobs and skateboarding
« Reply #146 on: May 15, 2019, 05:54:06 AM »
I work at a playhouse that also has a restaurant on the bottom floor. The building itself is from 1663, so it's pretty cool. People say it's haunted, blah blah, I ain't seen shit. Legit one of the oldest structures around that is still up and running. It used to be a mill.

I'm the "captain" for the restaurant. Got a sweet vest with my name and shit embroidered on it. I just try and make sure the waitresses, front door and kitchen all are on the same page. It's a decent gig and I really do enjoy it, but I'm on the lookout for something else.


Edit: I used to be a substitute teacher, but that got old really fast.
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Re: Pal’s jobs and skateboarding
« Reply #147 on: May 15, 2019, 05:55:23 AM »
Actor, director, producer.

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Re: Pal’s jobs and skateboarding
« Reply #148 on: May 15, 2019, 09:41:26 AM »
I swear I have no idea what half of these job titles mean.

To all the guys with complicated/technical sounding jobs - how did you end up where you are? I've never had any idea of what I would do for a legit "career", so I've been stuck in low paying jobs I hate my whole life. It sounds like plenty of you make good money, and I'm curious how you decided on your career paths in the first place. I don't picture many young guys thinking to themselves 'I wanna be an integrated marketing systems analyst when I grow up', because who even knows what that is?!

I always thought I'd be able to find a good/fulfilling job in the skate industry when I was younger - NOPE. The skate industry sucks ass. Once I figured that out I couldn't really think of anything in particular that interested me, career wise, so I've been spinning my wheels in dead end warehouse management jobs (non-skate) ever since. I've always been poor, so I can't afford school, and frankly it's hard to even consider taking on massive debt when nothing really appeals to me.

Really hoping I can transition into video editing as a career - just feel like I may need some sort of training to fill in the knowledge gaps that only editing skate videos has left me with.

Advice? Being over 40 and living with room mates is depressing.

Going to echo what the other pals said and suggest online training and lynda courses for free via library card. I've been working in the documentary world for the last seven years as an editor. The first three years were spent working as an assistant, and then I moved up to co-editor for one doc, and after that it's been lead editor or additional editor on everything else. I never went to film school and no one gives a fuck.

If you're over 40 and want to get into this, it's your attitude that you need to change first.

Most of the PAs and people just getting into this are going to be much, much younger, and they're going to have a lot of energy, and be down to do whatever it takes to get ahead. If I'm looking at qualifications for an assistant editor, and I have to choose between a young buck who has gone to film school and an older person who has done a couple online courses, and they're both at the same level of passion, then I'm going to choose the young person every time. They're moldable and more likely to be open to my suggestions. But, if that older person tells me that they work harder than everyone else, that they are making a change in their life so that they can do something they are passionate about, and they want to soak up every aspect of how to do the job properly, you can bet your ass that I'm going to go with them. Then if they show on the job that they ask questions so that their skills are constantly improving, and they go above and beyond in terms of the hours and the work, and they can learn, then I will recommend them to anyone that asks me for an assistant editor. I'll introduce them to producers I know, and when that next doc is crewing up, they'll be the first in line. Over time they'll build a positive rep as someone who works hard, has the goods, and makes work a better place. Sounds simple, but that's all you need to do. All the work I get now is a result of my previous work and the people I know.

The goal is to be someone who can handle anything that is thrown at them, and that people enjoy working with. You always want to be a part of the team that brings solutions, not problems. That doesn't mean that you always know how to accomplish what is asked of you, but it means that you never give attitude and do your best to figure out what is asked. Being ignorant of something is an excuse the first time, but not the second. I can't tell you how many AEs I've dealt with that could have moved up if they had been willing to learn more and had a better attitude. You have to bring value. And if all you have in your background is editing skate videos, then your value is limited at the moment. But it doesn't have to stay that way. The amount of information that is available online right now about practically any field is immense.

I can give more specific advice if you know where you want to work (LA, Bay Area, etc.) and in what field (commercials, fiction, nonfiction, etc.). 

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Re: Pal’s jobs and skateboarding
« Reply #149 on: May 15, 2019, 09:46:50 AM »
I'm a part time uber driver and a full time student over here in San Francisco.

Its a pretty bad ass job if you skate. the company itself is kinda making it harder to make money if you cant drive full time, but i get by and often find myself skating parts of the bay area i usually wouldn't when in between rides.

I chuckle/get-hyped the most when I pick up riders from pier 7.
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