Twin tail

[OhioGuy]

Where are all the Deathwish and Welcome twins? Low stock? I'm pondering going up from 14.25 to 14.33 WB since the Real twins seem to be available pretty reliably.

Just set this Welcome one up for spooky season. They have an intruder one at Zumiez online, and the official site still has some.

[Xen]

Twin tails don't take priority over regs pro or team boards. They're niche a market, globally, compare to what the average pro or skater rides.

And the handful that make it out to the public is probably a really small run compared to the boxes that worrest/foy/ishod get (I'd be suprised of Crail send boxes upon boxes of theirs to crob and smalltoe.

[OhioGuy]

Here’s the Welcome deck I was talking about: https://www.zumiez.com/welcome-intruder-evil-twin-8-5-skateboard-deck.html

It’s on sale for $59. Yeah Zumiez sucks, but it’s a great shape with a 14.25 wheelbase (like the green one above).

[Idk]

I think it’s here to stay. Lots of pros are skating them. As long as Ishod is pro there will be at least one twin tail on the market.

[Xen]

Here’s the Welcome deck I was talking about: https://www.zumiez.com/welcome-intruder-evil-twin-8-5-skateboard-deck.html

It’s on sale for $59. Yeah Zumiez sucks, but it’s a great shape with a 14.25 wheelbase (like the green one above).

If they made that shape in 8.3 I’d be in heaven.

Lately 8.5s feel too big (papa bear) and 8.25 feel too small (baby bear).

[diplodocus]

Speaking of:

https://quasiskateboards.com/products/lowercase-8-375

Digging this one.

Yoo thank you for this. I thought Quasi didn't make this shape this drop. But guess my shop never ordered this one.

This shape is so money. I fucking hate 7 in noses. Twin tails are the only boards with shorter, pointier noses and sub 32" length. I don't even skate my board symmetrically. I just really need that short nose and 31.x length

[OhioGuy]

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Here’s the Welcome deck I was talking about: https://www.zumiez.com/welcome-intruder-evil-twin-8-5-skateboard-deck.html

It’s on sale for $59. Yeah Zumiez sucks, but it’s a great shape with a 14.25 wheelbase (like the green one above).

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If they made that shape in 8.3 I’d be in heaven.

Lately 8.5s feel too big (papa bear) and 8.25 feel too small (baby bear).

Makes sense. It's a shovel nose so it's almost like an FA with two fat noses. Took a second to get used to it again.

[Xen]

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Speaking of:

https://quasiskateboards.com/products/lowercase-8-375

Digging this one.

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Yoo thank you for this. I thought Quasi didn't make this shape this drop. But guess my shop never ordered this one.

This shape is so money. I fucking hate 7 in noses. Twin tails are the only boards with shorter, pointier noses and sub 32" length. I don't even skate my board symmetrically. I just really need that short nose and 31.x length

Pretty much the same reason I like twin tails; massive noses don't need 'em or like the way they look...setting up a non-twin now and it's 6.9 nose...(not honking square shovel tho).

[rocklobster]

They're probably holding off order till closer to holiday season, next drop should be happening November just in time for Xmas shopping.

[ChuckRamone]

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Where are all the Deathwish and Welcome twins? Low stock? I'm pondering going up from 14.25 to 14.33 WB since the Real twins seem to be available pretty reliably.

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I also wonder. 14.25 is my happy place as far as wb goes. It’s crazy to me the lack of 8.5” twin shapes with that wb.

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Could be the fad is over (based on sales); it's also keen to note that all twins outside of crail's offerings come from BBS...and who knows what gets priority of board cos these days.

if you want a 14.3WB hit the habitat/AWS twins.

That's the last thing I wanted to hear. I've dreaded the idea that this is just a fad because I've always wanted to skate symmetrical boards, mostly because I ride my trucks the same tightness and I absolutely loathe having to rotate my trucks and wheels with every deck. And I really like not having to worry about front/back and twins are really nice once you get used to them.

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Where are all the Deathwish and Welcome twins? Low stock? I'm pondering going up from 14.25 to 14.33 WB since the Real twins seem to be available pretty reliably.

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I also wonder. 14.25 is my happy place as far as wb goes. It’s crazy to me the lack of 8.5” twin shapes with that wb.

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Could be the fad is over (based on sales); it's also keen to note that all twins outside of crail's offerings come from BBS...and who knows what gets priority of board cos these days.

if you want a 14.3WB hit the habitat/AWS twins.

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I would argue that the fad is far from over. Shops in my area were limiting the Foy twin tail to only 1 per customer when they had them in stock, and no one seems to be able to keep them.

I know deathwish recently stated they needed to make a new twin graphic for him, but who knows how long that will take, probably a season or two.

Also, the last season of deathwish boards had at least a few decks priced at $82 each. I’m a supporter of boards costing more than $50, but over $80 for a pro model deck seems totally fucked. $70ish seems fair for boards that were $50 two years ago. Are companies just testing the waters to see what they can get away with?

Let's hope this is true. I pray to god(s) this is not a trend.

Here’s the Welcome deck I was talking about: https://www.zumiez.com/welcome-intruder-evil-twin-8-5-skateboard-deck.html

It’s on sale for $59. Yeah Zumiez sucks, but it’s a great shape with a 14.25 wheelbase (like the green one above).

Thanks for the heads up. I picked up a few even though it's Zumiez.

[DarkPools]

Deathwish
DLX (Real/Krooked? AntiHero: wonder if they'll do the twin shapes eventually?)
Crail (Girl & Chlcolate)
AWS
Welcome
Primitive (twins are coming if not already out: PRod lightly confirmed this in a video on his YT channel about the shale he switched to riding about a year ago)

All of these brands are doing twins, and I expect more brands will do twins in the near future as their riders explore samples/try them out.

I don't believe it's a fad, but I do expect there to be slower seasons than others for moving twin shapes. Maybe brands for FA 23 and HO23 are alternating to what sells more for Christmas/holiday customers instead of a slightly niche market of twins. I'm fingers crossed for y'all that it's just an alternating season where they didn't stock/book as many like they previously have

[rocklobster]

Deathwish
DLX (Real/Krooked? AntiHero: wonder if they'll do the twin shapes eventually?)
Crail (Girl & Chlcolate)
AWS
Welcome
Primitive (twins are coming if not already out: PRod lightly confirmed this in a video on his YT channel about the shale he switched to riding about a year ago)

All of these brands are doing twins, and I expect more brands will do twins in the near future as their riders explore samples/try them out.

I don't believe it's a fad, but I do expect there to be slower seasons than others for moving twin shapes. Maybe brands for FA 23 and HO23 are alternating to what sells more for Christmas/holiday customers instead of a slightly niche market of twins. I'm fingers crossed for y'all that it's just an alternating season where they didn't stock/book as many like they previously have

303 and Skate Deluxe has a selection of twin shop decks.

[goodatmeth]

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Deathwish
DLX (Real/Krooked? AntiHero: wonder if they'll do the twin shapes eventually?)
Crail (Girl & Chlcolate)
AWS
Welcome
Primitive (twins are coming if not already out: PRod lightly confirmed this in a video on his YT channel about the shale he switched to riding about a year ago)

All of these brands are doing twins, and I expect more brands will do twins in the near future as their riders explore samples/try them out.

I don't believe it's a fad, but I do expect there to be slower seasons than others for moving twin shapes. Maybe brands for FA 23 and HO23 are alternating to what sells more for Christmas/holiday customers instead of a slightly niche market of twins. I'm fingers crossed for y'all that it's just an alternating season where they didn't stock/book as many like they previously have

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303 and Skate Deluxe has a selection of twin shop decks.

I've been skating the sk8dlx deck for a month now and I gotta say it's holding up really good.
It felt a bit less poppy than a bbs deck from the start, but it stayed the same for such a long time. Currently best twin tail in terms of money.
Ishod twin costs 90€, sk8dlx costs 55€ and it's the same shape.

[diplodocus]

I don't think twin boards are going on of style anytime soon. We have people come in the shop who are only looking for twin tails. I think aside from the symmetry, the shape of the board suits a lot of people skating.

[rocklobster]

All the brands already doing twin shapes (Crail, Deathwish, AWS, Habitat, Welcome) have made it part of their standard lineup. Suciu skates his pro model twin and logo graphic twins regular in his Insta stories which gives me confidence Habitat will keep producing his shape for the foreseeable future.

[boneless900]

Crosspost from the Set-Up Thread



 Skatesamples 9.1 symmetrical egg (gfb shape)
     -14.375 WB, 31.875 long, ~6.7 nose/tail
Ace AF1 matte black hangers from jts chop shop
     -60s fit flush on this deck
AF1 polished baseplates
     -hard bushings with flat bones washer on top
&& nano cubes
     -52s
Ace hollows
     -1 inch
Pepper galaxy grip
Powell rib bones
Mini logo bearings

[Idk]

This waiting for the primitive twin is annoying. I love the Ishod 8.3 but after I recently folded my right ankle switch heels are hard and I can’t do Bs tail shuvs anymore. Feeling like a smaller setup can get me back.

[Xen]

Girl Kennedy 93 Till Twin POP SECRET Deck:

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Girl_Kennedy_93_Till_Twin_POP_SECRET_Deck/descpage-GIKPSDK.html

[rocklobster]

Girl Kennedy 93 Till Twin POP SECRET Deck:

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Girl_Kennedy_93_Till_Twin_POP_SECRET_Deck/descpage-GIKPSDK.html

Cool find, I'm a sucker for gimmicky tech stuff put into decks but Crail's signature stiffness coupled with the fiber inlays sounds like a recipe for punishment.

I'd still buy 1 to try.

[Easy Slider]

Missed the last Quasi twin in Switzerland and now the only 8.3 option in Europe available seems to be the Ishod/Worrest, which I am not fond of. Any word on the streets if any 8.3 twins are hitting the shops soon or do I need to make concessions, size up/down or even go back to regular decks?

[rocklobster]

Missed the last Quasi twin in Switzerland and now the only 8.3 option in Europe available seems to be the Ishod/Worrest, which I am not fond of. Any word on the streets if any 8.3 twins are hitting the shops soon or do I need to make concessions, size up/down or even go back to regular decks?

New Habitat twins in 8.25 / 8.38 / 8.5 should be shipping out to shops in the next few weeks if you can handle 32.25" decks

[Mbrimson88]

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Missed the last Quasi twin in Switzerland and now the only 8.3 option in Europe available seems to be the Ishod/Worrest, which I am not fond of. Any word on the streets if any 8.3 twins are hitting the shops soon or do I need to make concessions, size up/down or even go back to regular decks?

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New Habitat twins in 8.25 / 8.38 / 8.5 should be shipping out to shops in the next few weeks if you can handle 32.25" decks

Funny you say that, as other people had been asking about different sizes of twins not too long ago and I didn't really have anything new to add, besides what I had already seen and heard, eg DLX / Ishods twins, Deathwish or similar boards, etc.

If they are all the Alien / Habitat squared off shapes, then it opens up the market a bit too, so others who don't like the DLX twin shapes can have something different.

Longer boards, medium wheelbases, long kicks??

[Easy Slider]

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Missed the last Quasi twin in Switzerland and now the only 8.3 option in Europe available seems to be the Ishod/Worrest, which I am not fond of. Any word on the streets if any 8.3 twins are hitting the shops soon or do I need to make concessions, size up/down or even go back to regular decks?

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New Habitat twins in 8.25 / 8.38 / 8.5 should be shipping out to shops in the next few weeks if you can handle 32.25" decks

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Funny you say that, as other people had been asking about different sizes of twins not too long ago and I didn't really have anything new to add, besides what I had already seen and heard, eg DLX / Ishods twins, Deathwish or similar boards, etc.

If they are all the Alien / Habitat squared off shapes, then it opens up the market a bit too, so others who don't like the DLX twin shapes can have something different.

Longer boards, medium wheelbases, long kicks??

Cheers lads, I’m open for new shapes.

[hiljentaa]

In case y'all didn't see-

Girl/Chocolate 8" twin coming soon.

https://www.youtube.com/live/4NXEOALGo4Y?si=A3E6VDZyhdY7WVzA

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[Madam, I'm Adam]

I've never skated a twin tail - I'm so used to the nose being bigger than the tail. For those of you that made the switch to a twin tail, what was it like? I looked back a few pages for some opinions but didn't see anything.

[BartHarleyJarvis]

I've never skated a twin tail - I'm so used to the nose being bigger than the tail. For those of you that made the switch to a twin tail, what was it like? I looked back a few pages for some opinions but didn't see anything.

I think it’s important to see them in person to make sure the kicks are to your liking. Some are sort of dual nose, some are sort of dual tail. I really like the real Ishod twin 8.5s, the kicks are pretty full but not totally square and that’s been really comfortable for me.

After a session or two you just completely stop thinking about it which is really cool. Just put your board down and go. I could see if you have really a strong nollie/switch game it could be more of an adjustment since your trick set ups will change a bit, but it’s worth trying imo

[Madam, I'm Adam]

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I've never skated a twin tail - I'm so used to the nose being bigger than the tail. For those of you that made the switch to a twin tail, what was it like? I looked back a few pages for some opinions but didn't see anything.

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I think it’s important to see them in person to make sure the kicks are to your liking. Some are sort of dual nose, some are sort of dual tail. I really like the real Ishod twin 8.5s, the kicks are pretty full but not totally square and that’s been really comfortable for me.

After a session or two you just completely stop thinking about it which is really cool. Just put your board down and go. I could see if you have really a strong nollie/switch game it could be more of an adjustment since your trick set ups will change a bit, but it’s worth trying imo

Hell yeah Bart, thanks for the info

[Xen]

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/100-biodegradable-8-25

[goodatmeth]

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/100-biodegradable-8-25

What the hell are these truck size recommendations. Makes no sense at all.
This 8.25 deck fits 8.5 thunder but 8.0 ventures

[Mbrimson88]

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https://habitatskateboards.com/products/100-biodegradable-8-25

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What the hell are these truck size recommendations. Makes no sense at all.
This 8.25 deck fits 8.5 thunder but 8.0 ventures

I think someone got their truck sizes confused / mixed up.  Happens to anyone easily enough.


Indy 144 / Venture 5.6 / Thunder 148 / Ace AF1 44 seems about right for 8.25 boards, but people could ride 149s / 5.8 / 55s on them too.