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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1260 on: September 12, 2023, 07:00:22 AM »
Did a search for Twin shapes on Tactics (dont need any boards right now so didnt pull the trigger.)
I found what I think would be my personal favorite Twin Kick shape and its from Welcome:

https://www.tactics.com/welcome/lil-owl-85-evil-twin-shape-skateboard-deck/dusk

CENTER WIDTH (IN):   8.5
LENGTH (IN):   31.95
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.25
NOSE (IN):   6.81
TAIL (IN):   6.81

I personally really like a 14.25" wb and this seems to be the only board for sale currently offered in that wb so that is basically what narrowed down the winner for me. But I also really like that length of kick at 6.81, i think it would be pretty manageable for a tail while still giving you a good nose slide. I would consider this in the "Twin Hybrid" range.


There are two Alien Workshop Twin Kick boards I saw that I liked. Both are at 8.375"w x 14.375" wb which is ok for me. One of them is a BEAST with 7" monster kicks. Definitely what I would call a true Twin Nose. I kinda feel like that is a bit too wild. the Mosaic 20 year anniversary board has 6.875" kicks which sounds pretty damn awesome to me, and I would put that in the Twin Hybrid category as well.

I don't think I would fuck with any of the Girl Twins because they are all 14" wb which is just way too small for me. I do like the other dimensions on the boards - they offer a board with 6.84" kicks which sounds great. (clearly I like the sound of hybrid length kick)

The Ishod ones are puzzling to me... They are varying kicks but all very small, 6.55" on the 8" x 14.3"wb (weird...),  6.72" on the 8.5" x 14.5"wb (too long for me). I dont think I would like this board.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1261 on: September 12, 2023, 08:01:00 AM »
next step would be no tail no nose.Like plank of wood and the loop would be closed.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1262 on: September 12, 2023, 08:19:53 AM »
Any one on here a fan of the G069 or G096 shapes? Interested due to the 14 in WB.

I bought two(G069/8.25) and love the shape. Can't skate a WB higher than 14.1. Then it starts to feel heavy on the pop. But I can't seem to find them in the wild. I skate them just like a regular board. Nose is not as steep as a G027/G052, what I regularly buy, so my nollie/switch stuff hits the ground sooner.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1263 on: September 13, 2023, 12:42:58 AM »
I didn't realize the G096 had a 14in WB, I may pass on it as I don't go lower than 14.25 since I'm on Indys. Don't feel like trying Venture or Thunder with them, but we'll see
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1264 on: September 13, 2023, 03:49:03 AM »


Lucked out and found a shop that had just got 2 Ishod 8.5s from the Fall drop, so I won't need to give the Welcome twin a shot for at least a few months. Crisis averted!


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1265 on: September 13, 2023, 10:03:04 AM »


Lucked out and found a shop that had just got 2 Ishod 8.5s from the Fall drop, so I won't need to give the Welcome twin a shot for at least a few months. Crisis averted!



The Welcome 8.5 evil twin is *chefs kiss* tho. ;)

I didn't realize the G096 had a 14in WB, I may pass on it as I don't go lower than 14.25 since I'm on Indys. Don't feel like trying Venture or Thunder with them, but we'll see

Only thing keeping me from trying the G069 - I just can't do a 14" WB (I've tried and tried); 14.25 minimum these days. However, the kick length might negate the short WB from an overall boardfeel pov, much like Primitive boards do....just tired of $pending on gear that doesn't work out.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1266 on: September 13, 2023, 10:11:09 AM »
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Lucked out and found a shop that had just got 2 Ishod 8.5s from the Fall drop, so I won't need to give the Welcome twin a shot for at least a few months. Crisis averted!


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The Welcome 8.5 evil twin is *chefs kiss* tho. ;)

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I didn't realize the G096 had a 14in WB, I may pass on it as I don't go lower than 14.25 since I'm on Indys. Don't feel like trying Venture or Thunder with them, but we'll see
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Only thing keeping me from trying the G069 - I just can't do a 14" WB (I've tried and tried); 14.25 minimum these days. However, the kick length might negate the short WB from an overall boardfeel pov, much like Primitive boards do....just tired of $pending on gear that doesn't work out.

I wouldn't force it. The WB was the most notable part of the G096 for me, and while I thought it kicked ass, I would advise against trying to make it work if >/= 14.25 is your comfort zone.

Maybe worth trying if you get one for cheap, but those shapes seem to go pretty fast and I don't see em on sale too often
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1267 on: September 13, 2023, 10:39:00 AM »
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Lucked out and found a shop that had just got 2 Ishod 8.5s from the Fall drop, so I won't need to give the Welcome twin a shot for at least a few months. Crisis averted!


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The Welcome 8.5 evil twin is *chefs kiss* tho. ;)

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I didn't realize the G096 had a 14in WB, I may pass on it as I don't go lower than 14.25 since I'm on Indys. Don't feel like trying Venture or Thunder with them, but we'll see
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Only thing keeping me from trying the G069 - I just can't do a 14" WB (I've tried and tried); 14.25 minimum these days. However, the kick length might negate the short WB from an overall boardfeel pov, much like Primitive boards do....just tired of $pending on gear that doesn't work out.
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I wouldn't force it. The WB was the most notable part of the G096 for me, and while I thought it kicked ass, I would advise against trying to make it work if >/= 14.25 is your comfort zone.

Maybe worth trying if you get one for cheap, but those shapes seem to go pretty fast and I don't see em on sale too often

I'm about 5'10" and have longer legs than a torso. I tried the Couch Shape at 13.75" and that thing was too squirrelly on my Indys. I can see the 14" WB working well with all the spin tricks I like to do, but the lack of stability that comes with it doesn't sound appealing enough for my liking. If I tried my untouched Thunder/Ventures on it, I might sing a different tune, however. I don't know if I wanna stray from Indy.

I skated a ton (at least 23 decks I can think of) of Primitive 8.5 models over the years (primarily 2017-2020) and they always felt like they were 14.25 or 14.5. Those never felt short WB-wise to me like Crail boards have.

We'll see. I may have to try it under feet in store or hope to try someone else's board who has that exact shape to see how it feels before committing to it
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1268 on: September 13, 2023, 11:32:14 AM »
Honestly I have tried short decks and Thunder/Venture and skated up to 14.5 on Thunders and even that felt better to than than on a 14. I could prob skate Venture Forged on a 14" that has long kicks, but in the end I still am not sure what I would really be gaining and I'd have to find a deck close to 31.9 to not feel insanely short.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1269 on: September 13, 2023, 02:17:17 PM »
Honestly I have tried short decks and Thunder/Venture and skated up to 14.5 on Thunders and even that felt better to than than on a 14. I could prob skate Venture Forged on a 14" that has long kicks, but in the end I still am not sure what I would really be gaining and I'd have to find a deck close to 31.9 to not feel insanely short.

I've tried pushing WB with Thunders/Ventures/Etc., it doesn't work as well as I (we) think it would; 14" is just too small for me to work with.

I can, however, feel a larger difference with indy vs Vent on a 14.3" WB tho.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1270 on: September 14, 2023, 11:17:31 AM »
givin it a shot


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1271 on: September 14, 2023, 11:22:37 AM »
givin it a shot

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AWS Twin 8.375
Indy 149ti (w/cast hollow baseplate, indy aftermarket conical bushings, riptide pivots)
SF F4 53mm Radial 99a
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Looks super nice, I need to seek this one but can't find any in Europe.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1272 on: September 18, 2023, 07:01:05 AM »
givin it a shot

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@LebowskisRug was right, this thing was WAY too much of a BEAST.  it felt sooo long and at times, I'd think I was stepping off the board, only to be stepping back on it.  left it at the local park after a couple sessions on it.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1273 on: September 21, 2023, 12:30:44 PM »
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1274 on: September 21, 2023, 01:31:06 PM »
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/search-skate.html?start=0&count=30&searchtext=twin

GO69s in stock

GO96 too! That Howard with the moped mouse is rad

Local shop said they were getting crail's drop today or tomorrow. Crossing fingers this one comes in!
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1275 on: September 21, 2023, 02:24:01 PM »

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1276 on: September 21, 2023, 03:51:49 PM »

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1277 on: September 21, 2023, 08:51:36 PM »
8.75" Ishod twin tail on the way in the new year. Looks to have an 8 5/8" wheelbase.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1278 on: September 22, 2023, 12:24:04 AM »
8.75" Ishod twin tail on the way in the new year. Looks to have an 8 5/8" wheelbase.

I probably shouldn't be as excited about a new shape as I am right now, but damn, you just made my whole week.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1279 on: September 22, 2023, 09:04:56 AM »
8.75" Ishod twin tail on the way in the new year. Looks to have an 8 5/8" wheelbase.
DLX please make true fit twin tails.
8.25-8.75 twin with a 14.25 wb or something.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1280 on: September 22, 2023, 09:18:05 AM »
8.75" Ishod twin tail on the way in the new year. Looks to have an 8 5/8" wheelbase.

Damn that sounds really sick...
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1281 on: September 22, 2023, 09:19:27 AM »
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8.75" Ishod twin tail on the way in the new year. Looks to have an 8 5/8" wheelbase.
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DLX please make true fit twin tails.
8.25-8.75 twin with a 14.25 wb or something.

This.

Every twin 14.33 and above...wtf.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1282 on: September 27, 2023, 05:41:26 PM »
You know what sucks?

There are no twins that are a true 8.3x with a 14.25" WB. Splitting hairs I know.

That quasi is really 8.25" width on the last two I've ridden.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1283 on: September 29, 2023, 08:49:57 AM »
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1284 on: September 29, 2023, 03:10:13 PM »
Speaking of:

https://quasiskateboards.com/products/lowercase-8-375

Digging this one.

Been curious on this one. How long are the tails?

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1285 on: September 29, 2023, 03:58:51 PM »
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Speaking of:

https://quasiskateboards.com/products/lowercase-8-375

Digging this one.
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Been curious on this one. How long are the tails?

Roughly 6.625"

Bit on the short side compared to other twins but I hate big ass 7” noses., especially shovels.

Just know it actually measures under 8.3, more like 8.25 and a hair…so it feels like an 8.25; still my fav twin.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1286 on: October 03, 2023, 11:18:49 AM »
Where are all the Deathwish and Welcome twins? Low stock? I'm pondering going up from 14.25 to 14.33 WB since the Real twins seem to be available pretty reliably.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1287 on: October 03, 2023, 11:39:57 AM »
Where are all the Deathwish and Welcome twins? Low stock? I'm pondering going up from 14.25 to 14.33 WB since the Real twins seem to be available pretty reliably.

I also wonder. 14.25 is my happy place as far as wb goes. It’s crazy to me the lack of 8.5” twin shapes with that wb.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1288 on: October 03, 2023, 12:20:17 PM »
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Where are all the Deathwish and Welcome twins? Low stock? I'm pondering going up from 14.25 to 14.33 WB since the Real twins seem to be available pretty reliably.
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I also wonder. 14.25 is my happy place as far as wb goes. It’s crazy to me the lack of 8.5” twin shapes with that wb.

Could be the fad is over (based on sales); it's also keen to note that all twins outside of crail's offerings come from BBS...and who knows what gets priority of board cos these days.

if you want a 14.3WB hit the habitat/AWS twins.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1289 on: October 03, 2023, 12:37:13 PM »
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Where are all the Deathwish and Welcome twins? Low stock? I'm pondering going up from 14.25 to 14.33 WB since the Real twins seem to be available pretty reliably.
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I also wonder. 14.25 is my happy place as far as wb goes. It’s crazy to me the lack of 8.5” twin shapes with that wb.
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Could be the fad is over (based on sales); it's also keen to note that all twins outside of crail's offerings come from BBS...and who knows what gets priority of board cos these days.

if you want a 14.3WB hit the habitat/AWS twins.

I would argue that the fad is far from over. Shops in my area were limiting the Foy twin tail to only 1 per customer when they had them in stock, and no one seems to be able to keep them.

I know deathwish recently stated they needed to make a new twin graphic for him, but who knows how long that will take, probably a season or two.

Also, the last season of deathwish boards had at least a few decks priced at $82 each. I’m a supporter of boards costing more than $50, but over $80 for a pro model deck seems totally fucked. $70ish seems fair for boards that were $50 two years ago. Are companies just testing the waters to see what they can get away with?