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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1710 on: April 26, 2024, 11:44:58 PM »
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I've had two 8.5 Ishod Twins and they have also been perfectly symmetrical, as far as I can measure, see and feel. Just wish they were 14.25" WB.
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IIRC, I saw an ad for easy riders, or some symmetrical mellow shape out of deluxe that had 8.5s with 14.25” WB.
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Yeah, the Easy Riders are symmetrical in degree of kick only (not shape); they really did a piss poor job on explaining the board - they just assumed everyone was going to watch BenD's video.

Their recent Insta posts has side-by-side comparisons of the new Easy Rider concave against their classic one.

Just setup a SC 8.4 Maurio McCoy Twin, the kicks are really tapered, almost like they took the old Asta shape and widened it out. Almost egg like, haven't landed a 360 flip on it yet but pretty good. I don't think they use the same woodshop as DSM since SC / Creature feel like they have a signature stiffness, right below a BBS.

Their eagle graphic was ugly as sin and I don't like the matte finish on the bottom. Aside from that it's treating me much better than the Opera Twin.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1711 on: April 27, 2024, 12:29:47 AM »
Anyone skated the Alien workshop/habitat twins in 8.5? Wondering how the measurements are. Some shops list as 14.25 wb others 14.375.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1712 on: April 27, 2024, 12:46:46 AM »
Depends on which graphic you got. The Apex Bold White 8.5 Twin is a 14.25", rode and measured it - 14.25" as listed.

The new Spectrum Full 8.5 Twin is listed as 14.38, ordered one but it's still enroute so I can't verify it.

The Apex Bold White 8.5 Twin does feel way too long (32.375"), going 14.38" would have been a better option.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1713 on: April 27, 2024, 12:53:15 AM »
Depends on which graphic you got. The Apex Bold White 8.5 Twin is a 14.25", rode and measured it - 14.25" as listed.

The new Spectrum Full 8.5 Twin is listed as 14.38, ordered one but it's still enroute so I can't verify it.

The Apex Bold White 8.5 Twin does feel way too long (32.375"), going 14.38" would have been a better option.

Thanks for the insight.
The new spectrum is what made me curious. On paper it sounds great. Just can’t deal with 14.25 wb even with ventures when the deck is that long

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1714 on: April 27, 2024, 03:59:46 AM »
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I've had two 8.5 Ishod Twins and they have also been perfectly symmetrical, as far as I can measure, see and feel. Just wish they were 14.25" WB.
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IIRC, I saw an ad for easy riders, or some symmetrical mellow shape out of deluxe that had 8.5s with 14.25” WB.
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Yeah, the Easy Riders are symmetrical in degree of kick only (not shape); they really did a piss poor job on explaining the board - they just assumed everyone was going to watch BenD's video.

Well shit, thanks for the heads up!
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1715 on: April 27, 2024, 07:17:49 PM »
Depends on which graphic you got. The Apex Bold White 8.5 Twin is a 14.25", rode and measured it - 14.25" as listed.

The new Spectrum Full 8.5 Twin is listed as 14.38, ordered one but it's still enroute so I can't verify it.

The Apex Bold White 8.5 Twin does feel way too long (32.375"), going 14.38" would have been a better option.


Are they all still as big, blunt and long kicks as the older ones?

That 8.375 twin board I had second hand was a beast of a thing.

I guess all the other Alien Workshop boards I have seen have been the same, regular shape or twin, big long blunt kicks, so I wouldn't expect anything less, just some people had been talking about it and I hadn't seen any in person.


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1716 on: April 27, 2024, 09:27:34 PM »
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Depends on which graphic you got. The Apex Bold White 8.5 Twin is a 14.25", rode and measured it - 14.25" as listed.

The new Spectrum Full 8.5 Twin is listed as 14.38, ordered one but it's still enroute so I can't verify it.

The Apex Bold White 8.5 Twin does feel way too long (32.375"), going 14.38" would have been a better option.
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Are they all still as big, blunt and long kicks as the older ones?

That 8.375 twin board I had second hand was a beast of a thing.

I guess all the other Alien Workshop boards I have seen have been the same, regular shape or twin, big long blunt kicks, so I wouldn't expect anything less, just some people had been talking about it and I hadn't seen any in person.




Yup, still beasts. Blame the 7" kicks

8.25" x 32.25" WB 14.25"
8.375" x 32.25" WB 14.375"
8.5" X 32.25" WB 14.25"

Really wish they would use their [8.3] 'agile shape' for a twin, would work well I think. Has an almost eggish vibe to it (the kicks taper).

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1717 on: April 27, 2024, 09:31:19 PM »
The 8.38 Mercy shape is another beast at 32.75 x 14.25, is Marius actually riding that shape??
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1718 on: April 29, 2024, 04:23:06 AM »
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Depends on which graphic you got. The Apex Bold White 8.5 Twin is a 14.25", rode and measured it - 14.25" as listed.

The new Spectrum Full 8.5 Twin is listed as 14.38, ordered one but it's still enroute so I can't verify it.

The Apex Bold White 8.5 Twin does feel way too long (32.375"), going 14.38" would have been a better option.
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Are they all still as big, blunt and long kicks as the older ones?

That 8.375 twin board I had second hand was a beast of a thing.

I guess all the other Alien Workshop boards I have seen have been the same, regular shape or twin, big long blunt kicks, so I wouldn't expect anything less, just some people had been talking about it and I hadn't seen any in person.



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Yup, still beasts. Blame the 7" kicks

8.25" x 32.25" WB 14.25"
8.375" x 32.25" WB 14.375"
8.5" X 32.25" WB 14.25"

Really wish they would use their [8.3] 'agile shape' for a twin, would work well I think. Has an almost eggish vibe to it (the kicks taper).


Thanks!


Funny that DLX Ishod similar boards have such short kicks, then Alien Workshop have such long kicks.

I have the two 8.3 / 8.375 boards here comparing them, Ishod twin tail just feels so short and AW is twin nose and feeling a little too long.  A little something in between would be nice for a medium board.


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1719 on: April 29, 2024, 09:30:38 AM »
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Depends on which graphic you got. The Apex Bold White 8.5 Twin is a 14.25", rode and measured it - 14.25" as listed.

The new Spectrum Full 8.5 Twin is listed as 14.38, ordered one but it's still enroute so I can't verify it.

The Apex Bold White 8.5 Twin does feel way too long (32.375"), going 14.38" would have been a better option.
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Are they all still as big, blunt and long kicks as the older ones?

That 8.375 twin board I had second hand was a beast of a thing.

I guess all the other Alien Workshop boards I have seen have been the same, regular shape or twin, big long blunt kicks, so I wouldn't expect anything less, just some people had been talking about it and I hadn't seen any in person.



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Yup, still beasts. Blame the 7" kicks

8.25" x 32.25" WB 14.25"
8.375" x 32.25" WB 14.375"
8.5" X 32.25" WB 14.25"

Really wish they would use their [8.3] 'agile shape' for a twin, would work well I think. Has an almost eggish vibe to it (the kicks taper).
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Thanks!


Funny that DLX Ishod similar boards have such short kicks, then Alien Workshop have such long kicks.

I have the two 8.3 / 8.375 boards here comparing them, Ishod twin tail just feels so short and AW is twin nose and feeling a little too long.  A little something in between would be nice for a medium board.




Deathwish Foy Twin (8.5) is perfect, really wish they made it in smaller sizes. A good 8.25 twin is harder to come by, the Toy machine is close....8.3 quasi is decent but really close to the dlx in terms of kicks.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1720 on: April 30, 2024, 08:04:32 AM »
How do you guys tighten your trucks with twins? I set up new thunders and they’re way too loose for me stock but I’m scared my ocd will come back if I tighten them and one feels different than the other.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1721 on: April 30, 2024, 09:02:46 AM »
How do you guys tighten your trucks with twins? I set up new thunders and they’re way too loose for me stock but I’m scared my ocd will come back if I tighten them and one feels different than the other.

I usually do 2-3 threads showing on both

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1722 on: April 30, 2024, 09:20:57 AM »
Always have both trucks nut and kingpin flush. Ace AF1 55s on an 8.5 Ishod Twin or Thunder 151s on an 8.5 Crail twin. And Ace 55 Classics on a 8.88" Powell Flight Twin (shhhh......)

I rotate trucks on directional decks also so they usually feel very close. I know some people really like to get brand new trucks when they set up a twin.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1723 on: April 30, 2024, 09:41:44 AM »
How do you guys tighten your trucks with twins? I set up new thunders and they’re way too loose for me stock but I’m scared my ocd will come back if I tighten them and one feels different than the other.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1724 on: April 30, 2024, 11:58:13 PM »
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Depends on which graphic you got. The Apex Bold White 8.5 Twin is a 14.25", rode and measured it - 14.25" as listed.

The new Spectrum Full 8.5 Twin is listed as 14.38, ordered one but it's still enroute so I can't verify it.

The Apex Bold White 8.5 Twin does feel way too long (32.375"), going 14.38" would have been a better option.
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Are they all still as big, blunt and long kicks as the older ones?

That 8.375 twin board I had second hand was a beast of a thing.

I guess all the other Alien Workshop boards I have seen have been the same, regular shape or twin, big long blunt kicks, so I wouldn't expect anything less, just some people had been talking about it and I hadn't seen any in person.



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Yup, still beasts. Blame the 7" kicks

8.25" x 32.25" WB 14.25"
8.375" x 32.25" WB 14.375"
8.5" X 32.25" WB 14.25"

Really wish they would use their [8.3] 'agile shape' for a twin, would work well I think. Has an almost eggish vibe to it (the kicks taper).
[close]


Thanks!


Funny that DLX Ishod similar boards have such short kicks, then Alien Workshop have such long kicks.

I have the two 8.3 / 8.375 boards here comparing them, Ishod twin tail just feels so short and AW is twin nose and feeling a little too long.  A little something in between would be nice for a medium board.



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Deathwish Foy Twin (8.5) is perfect, really wish they made it in smaller sizes. A good 8.25 twin is harder to come by, the Toy machine is close....8.3 quasi is decent but really close to the dlx in terms of kicks.

Habitat just released Apex Bold Green Twin 8.25 with 14.25, it's 32-ish long, big long kicks. I got it in Europe and it's BBS made.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1725 on: May 01, 2024, 03:43:15 PM »
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Depends on which graphic you got. The Apex Bold White 8.5 Twin is a 14.25", rode and measured it - 14.25" as listed.

The new Spectrum Full 8.5 Twin is listed as 14.38, ordered one but it's still enroute so I can't verify it.

The Apex Bold White 8.5 Twin does feel way too long (32.375"), going 14.38" would have been a better option.
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Are they all still as big, blunt and long kicks as the older ones?

That 8.375 twin board I had second hand was a beast of a thing.

I guess all the other Alien Workshop boards I have seen have been the same, regular shape or twin, big long blunt kicks, so I wouldn't expect anything less, just some people had been talking about it and I hadn't seen any in person.



[close]

Yup, still beasts. Blame the 7" kicks

8.25" x 32.25" WB 14.25"
8.375" x 32.25" WB 14.375"
8.5" X 32.25" WB 14.25"

Really wish they would use their [8.3] 'agile shape' for a twin, would work well I think. Has an almost eggish vibe to it (the kicks taper).
[close]


Thanks!


Funny that DLX Ishod similar boards have such short kicks, then Alien Workshop have such long kicks.

I have the two 8.3 / 8.375 boards here comparing them, Ishod twin tail just feels so short and AW is twin nose and feeling a little too long.  A little something in between would be nice for a medium board.



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Deathwish Foy Twin (8.5) is perfect, really wish they made it in smaller sizes. A good 8.25 twin is harder to come by, the Toy machine is close....8.3 quasi is decent but really close to the dlx in terms of kicks.
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Habitat just released Apex Bold Green Twin 8.25 with 14.25, it's 32-ish long, big long kicks. I got it in Europe and it's BBS made.

It's the 'same old' one we've had:


Yup, still beasts. Blame the 7" kicks

8.25" x 32.25" WB 14.25"
8.375" x 32.25" WB 14.375"
8.5" X 32.25" WB 14.25"

Really wish they would use their [8.3] 'agile shape' for a twin, would work well I think. Has an almost eggish vibe to it (the kicks taper).

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/apex-bold-green-8-25-twin


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1726 on: May 02, 2024, 04:56:39 PM »

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1727 on: May 02, 2024, 05:57:50 PM »
^Ooof. I had last year’s version, the wheelbase was just slightly longer (14.28), and it was really nice. Hopefully I can get my hands on this one.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1728 on: May 02, 2024, 06:49:45 PM »
^Ooof. I had last year’s version, the wheelbase was just slightly longer (14.28), and it was really nice. Hopefully I can get my hands on this one.

Yah, but that was on the 8.5"

Really glad to see a normal to shorter length 8.25 with a 14.25" WB and the foy shape is amazing (this is not the Neen 8.25 from a few years ago nor the baker 8.25 shape in a twin) but the 8.5 Foy [current] twin scaled down to 8.25.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1729 on: May 03, 2024, 02:40:59 AM »
https://www.tactics.com/heroin/wilson-dead-reflections-85-skateboard-deck

New heroin graphic based off the same shape as the tom day. been my favorite twin so far by a long shot

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1730 on: May 04, 2024, 12:37:15 PM »


Welp...the sticker is wrong, the 8.25 Foy is actually 31.85"ish with a somewhat shorter than 14.25"WB (more like 14.125")

Buyer beware!

8.5" measure true as they all have previously.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1731 on: May 04, 2024, 04:31:27 PM »
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^Ooof. I had last year’s version, the wheelbase was just slightly longer (14.28), and it was really nice. Hopefully I can get my hands on this one.
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Yah, but that was on the 8.5"

Really glad to see a normal to shorter length 8.25 with a 14.25" WB and the foy shape is amazing (this is not the Neen 8.25 from a few years ago nor the baker 8.25 shape in a twin) but the 8.5 Foy [current] twin scaled down to 8.25.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1732 on: May 04, 2024, 04:46:59 PM »
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^Ooof. I had last year’s version, the wheelbase was just slightly longer (14.28), and it was really nice. Hopefully I can get my hands on this one.
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Yah, but that was on the 8.5"

Really glad to see a normal to shorter length 8.25 with a 14.25" WB and the foy shape is amazing (this is not the Neen 8.25 from a few years ago nor the baker 8.25 shape in a twin) but the 8.5 Foy [current] twin scaled down to 8.25.
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Oh man, I’m glad you’re here to catch my errors. I’ve got donkey brains these days.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1733 on: May 06, 2024, 03:11:06 PM »


Welp...the sticker is wrong, the 8.25 Foy is actually 31.875" with a somewhat shorter than 14.25"WB (more like 14.125")

Buyer beware!

8.5" measure true as they all have previously.

Took out the 8.25 today, shape is really nice (for me it's THE 8.25 twin kick shape I've been after) - wasn't happy with the trucks (WB feels tight, will need to experiment).

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1734 on: May 13, 2024, 06:23:48 AM »
No 8” twin nose type shapes with 14” wb out there huh?

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1735 on: May 13, 2024, 07:10:18 AM »
No 8” twin nose type shapes with 14” wb out there huh?
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1736 on: May 13, 2024, 07:13:34 AM »
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1737 on: May 13, 2024, 08:27:38 AM »
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Chocolate_Roberts_Ink_Blot_TWIN_TIP_Deck/descpage-CHRIB8DK.html

Crailtap's G080 shape - 8.0 x 31.88 x 14
I need this shape on a graphic that isn’t Chris Roberts.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1738 on: May 13, 2024, 10:12:30 AM »
I need this shape on a graphic that isn’t Chris Roberts.

This is the way.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1739 on: May 14, 2024, 01:14:09 PM »