New Thunders with standard downlow kingpin?

[GBLange]

this is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[ish_wav]

Does anyone have any updated photos of these?

[hobochimp]

Anyone have any info about how the geometry is changing? Bringing wheelbase in? Better turn? And is the baseplate issue the whole catching on slides problem that many people have? I’m definitely curious as to what the changes are

[Mbrimson88]

Yeah curious to see whatever happens, any which way.

[LebowskisRug]

I cannot share photos. I didn't get details as to how the geo was changing just that they felt very loose.

[Frank and Fred]

Oh shit. This is starting to sound good.

[I Can't Think]

I think I saw the new thunders in the wild? If they have that new baseplate design it means they're new right?



If so here's links to more photos of them:

https://costaldeanzuelos.com/store/14626214967
https://www.wearedropouts.com.au/products/thunder-x-chrystie-trucks-team-edition

[notinternetfamous]

nah those are just standard thunders. the new ones will look pretty different imo

[Mbrimson88]

From looking over history of Thunder posts, it seems the hex head baseplate came out / was first posted here around mid 2020, so that design has been on all new Thunders for a while now.

For those who wanted the inverted kingpin option, at least they didn't have to JB weld the nut in place with that one, but I haven't seen anything since then apart from the special secret versions of trucks from Ishod or Ben DG or similar.

[I Can't Think]

nah those are just standard thunders. the new ones will look pretty different imo

Ah ok that makes a lot more sense, mb

From looking over history of Thunder posts, it seems the hex head baseplate came out / was first posted here around mid 2020, so that design has been on all new Thunders for a while now.

For those who wanted the inverted kingpin option, at least they didn't have to JB weld the nut in place with that one, but I haven't seen anything since then apart from the special secret versions of trucks from Ishod or Ben DG or similar.

Thanks for clarifying. So no actual geo change on those. Excited to see them eventually. Gonna be interesting to hear what people say if the baseplate stuff changes

[Mbrimson88]

Thanks for clarifying. So no actual geo change on those. Excited to see them eventually. Gonna be interesting to hear what people say if the baseplate stuff changes

Yeah for sure.

On one hand it is a "No don't change a thing" from some people, but on the other hand, it is "About time they fixed them" from others, so depending on your perspective, it could be a very interesting situation all round.

Even looking at some older versions, they have definitely changed from when they had the Hi or Lo options, as well as the older 149ers when they first came out.

I keep meaning to take pics of these really old six hole baseplate Thunders I have, one set that are almost untouched with what the guy said had stock inverted kingpin from back in the day, of which I have never seen any exactly like it, but don't know how true that is, given the six hole baseplates were a thing more from around 1993 to about 1998, all still with hex kingpins anyway, they are definitely old and narrow for truck width.

[theloniousmonk]

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Thanks for clarifying. So no actual geo change on those. Excited to see them eventually. Gonna be interesting to hear what people say if the baseplate stuff changes

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Yeah for sure.

On one hand it is a "No don't change a thing" from some people, but on the other hand, it is "About time they fixed them" from others, so depending on your perspective, it could be a very interesting situation all round.

Even looking at some older versions, they have definitely changed from when they had the Hi or Lo options, as well as the older 149ers when they first came out.

I keep meaning to take pics of these really old six hole baseplate Thunders I have, one set that are almost untouched with what the guy said had stock inverted kingpin from back in the day, of which I have never seen any exactly like it, but don't know how true that is, given the six hole baseplates were a thing more from around 1993 to about 1998, all still with hex kingpins anyway, they are definitely old and narrow for truck width.

I would be hyped to see these.

I’ve been skating inverted (kreper) kingpin thunders this year, and it’s a nice combo. I have the cast plate with the updated nut holder and that works pretty well

[Mbrimson88]

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I keep meaning to take pics of these really old six hole baseplate Thunders I have, one set that are almost untouched with what the guy said had stock inverted kingpin from back in the day, of which I have never seen any exactly like it, but don't know how true that is, given the six hole baseplates were a thing more from around 1993 to about 1998, all still with hex kingpins anyway, they are definitely old and narrow for truck width.

[close]

I would be hyped to see these.

I’ve been skating inverted (kreper) kingpin thunders this year, and it’s a nice combo. I have the cast plate with the updated nut holder and that works pretty well

I cleaned out some stuff the other day, so knew exactly where they were.

Also took pics of the normal kingpin Thunders of the same period, as well as some Grind King with their standard assembly inverted kingpin for reference, so can post those as well.

Three pics of each, hopefully showing everything with enough detail.

The main thing I noted was there was still minimal clearance on these, similar clearance to the normal kingpin, whereas the Grind King trucks had ridiculous clearance.

[Mbrimson88]

From a search and this came up, which is probably one of the best DIY fixes of all.


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=88869.msg3287436#msg3287436

FULL POST BELOW without quote so easier to see

So I got nerdy on some Thunder with a Grindking conversion. (Actually Krēpēr conversion technically?) A friend showed me the method, it involves installing a threaded 3/8-24 insert. You drill out the kingpin hole to a certain slightly larger size, thread it with a course tap for the teeth on the outside of the insert, and then epoxy set it. No need for a nut! Though you do have to put some threadlock liquid on the kingpin threads from time to time.

Been skating them for almost 2 years, favorite truck set-up I have skated. Clearance for days, even after hitting axle.

Thunder 149 Ti, switched to older cast baseplates early on, Krēpēr kingpin, recently replaced original shot bushings with Thunder 94a bushings and Riptide pivot cup.

[Vintagebody]

Adriano Fiore has a vid with Ben Degros, where he is skating IKP Thunder's. They just look like they have IKP, no extended baseplate or anything. But his pair might just be modded

[zozu]

can these just come out ASAP and cure my truck madness already. or just make it worse it doesnt matter anymore i am in too deep

[camel filters]

can these just come out ASAP and cure my truck madness already. or just make it worse it doesnt matter anymore i am in too deep

I'm the opposite, I want these to come out 2 years from now so I can skate through some of my trucks and not feel like I'm missing out on something that might work for me.

[zozu]

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can these just come out ASAP and cure my truck madness already. or just make it worse it doesnt matter anymore i am in too deep

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I'm the opposite, I want these to come out 2 years from now so I can skate through some of my trucks and not feel like I'm missing out on something that might work for me.

good point but personally I think I can only cure this disease if I get rid of all my trucks and force myself to stay on one set

[Frank and Fred]

So in summary are we looking at:

inverted kingpin
new geo with a hanger set further in
looser turn

?

[Vintagebody]

Na, I dont think the geo's changed... This is a snap from Ben Degros board with trucks he is not suppose to talk about

[Frank and Fred]

According to @LebowskisRug The geo might feel a little different...

A slightly higher Thunder with a deeper turn would be insane.

[j....soy.....]

I don’t think so….I think KP only….it’s possible I’ve stood on that board and didn’t notice much difference..,

[Frank and Fred]

Good to know. I won't froth as much.

[Lee Ralphs Dear Old Mum]

So these 'new' Thunders just offer an 'inverted KP?"

No change to geo despite some reports?
No change to baseplate position/size?