New Toy Machine decks designed by artist charged with multiple counts of Rape

[ok boomer]

first fart clouds, and now this. Shame

[straight fucking edge]

ed had said a while ago in an interview that he doesn't do the art for toy machine anymore and he barely has anything to do with the day-to-day.  not really surprising that people like ihatejulio haven't done any due diligence to actually know something like that though

[theSketchLord]

haha, Lister.
I used to see this dude around a bit, full on creep.
His art is all over the place in Adelaide

I remember when the first accusations dropped people were saying it was pretty bad.

[BroBruhBra]

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Holy shit, Tempster……. bad look, BRUH.

I swear to god, most skateboarders are just fucking idiots. It's like their careers are triumphs of ignorance.

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Is it really ignorance? He's been connected in the art world for quite a number of years now. Hard to believe he's heard nothing about dude getting shunned.

I'm referring to the community at large. Ton of idiots about.

[Freelancevagrant]

Hopefully toy machine is focusing the collab but I’ve always felt Ed was pretty sus.

[fernando the skater]

Templeton blocked me, and a bunch of other people, a couple of years ago. He posted one of his photos of HB featuring some "Mexicans". When pointed out to him that they might actually be "Americans" seeing as they're walking around HB, and that, anyway, not all Hispanics are "Mexican", he had a hissiy fit, and deleted all negative comments. He's a dumb, fat fuck.

[Giza Butler]

If this board gets mass released I’ll never buy a toy board again.

As if you were going to buy one, in 2020. 

[dooley]

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Holy shit, Tempster……. bad look, BRUH.

I swear to god, most skateboarders are just fucking idiots. It's like their careers are triumphs of ignorance.

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Is it really ignorance? He's been connected in the art world for quite a number of years now. Hard to believe he's heard nothing about dude getting shunned.

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I'm referring to the community at large. Ton of idiots about.

Seems like he tried to casually pass this off but got called out. As someone mentioned above, collaborations don't happen overnight. A way to get some business for a fellow creep, a dude who happens to be a rapist shunned from the art world. Can't give him the benefit of the doubt, given his record. The graphic was horrible too - just tacky.

[SatanicPanic]

I was a huge fan of Ed when I was a kid and some of his contributions to making skating more inclusive were really cool. But he’s probably a creeper.

Anyone else remember that Arto interview where he says the first time he met Ed he went to Ed’s house and Ed was hanging out nude on a plastic covered sofa?

[dooley]

First impressions matter, they say. And that's how his brain translated the follow-through.

[RichardBarkley]

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"Pathetic cowards"

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Yes.

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Maybe they didn't know?

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I'm sure no one in the Toy Machine production line of this collaboration had access to google before funding this project. Great take.   

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Are you not gonna be satisfied until you take down every skate company around you ? Whats the end game ?

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Just the ones that give paychecks to rapists and domestic abusers. The end game is to no longer have abusers, rapists, and misogynists involved in skateboarding in any capacity. Sorry that offends you so much, I'll be sure to consider your fragility next time something like this comes up.

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I bet you skate nikes

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I bet you skate Toy Machine decks.

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You're fried.

This was obviously an oversight. With a company this small there wouldn't be that many people involved.

Do you think it's a company full of rapists ?

Do you think a company would knowingly release product associated with a known rapists?

Seriously, do you think that's the case ?

I want justice for a rapists , racists.... In fact if I find anything remotely unsavory about a company, I won't support it.

But this is serious reaching. Which is par for the course on this board. Hanging others for your own gratification.

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So you don't find this remotely unsavory? You think everything about this collaboration, and the situation Toy Machine has put themselves in, is all well and good?

I think it's bullshit and it should be pulled. Not one deck should see the shelf of a shop.

But I just found ihatejulio to be too going in way too hard without knowing facts

Has to be an oversight. No way they as a company knowingly released works of a rapist.

[drewsmahgoos]

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"Pathetic cowards"

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Yes.

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Maybe they didn't know?

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I'm sure no one in the Toy Machine production line of this collaboration had access to google before funding this project. Great take.   

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Are you not gonna be satisfied until you take down every skate company around you ? Whats the end game ?

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Just the ones that give paychecks to rapists and domestic abusers. The end game is to no longer have abusers, rapists, and misogynists involved in skateboarding in any capacity. Sorry that offends you so much, I'll be sure to consider your fragility next time something like this comes up.

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I bet you skate nikes

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I bet you skate Toy Machine decks.

[close]

You're fried.

This was obviously an oversight. With a company this small there wouldn't be that many people involved.

Do you think it's a company full of rapists ?

Do you think a company would knowingly release product associated with a known rapists?

Seriously, do you think that's the case ?

I want justice for a rapists , racists.... In fact if I find anything remotely unsavory about a company, I won't support it.

But this is serious reaching. Which is par for the course on this board. Hanging others for your own gratification.

[close]

So you don't find this remotely unsavory? You think everything about this collaboration, and the situation Toy Machine has put themselves in, is all well and good?

[close]

I think it's bullshit and it should be pulled. Not one deck should see the shelf of a shop.

But I just found ihatejulio to be too going in way too hard without knowing facts

Has to be an oversight. No way they as a company knowingly released works of a rapist.

How could it be an oversight? All it takes is a google search of the guy to see he's a rapist. You're telling me that no one at Toy Machine googled this guy(at the very least to see his artwork) before hiring him? That's regular.

[johnes]

Does Ed even oversee the Toy Machine graphics these days?

[RichardBarkley]

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"Pathetic cowards"

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Yes.

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Maybe they didn't know?

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I'm sure no one in the Toy Machine production line of this collaboration had access to google before funding this project. Great take.   

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Are you not gonna be satisfied until you take down every skate company around you ? Whats the end game ?

[close]

Just the ones that give paychecks to rapists and domestic abusers. The end game is to no longer have abusers, rapists, and misogynists involved in skateboarding in any capacity. Sorry that offends you so much, I'll be sure to consider your fragility next time something like this comes up.

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I bet you skate nikes

[close]

I bet you skate Toy Machine decks.

[close]

You're fried.

This was obviously an oversight. With a company this small there wouldn't be that many people involved.

Do you think it's a company full of rapists ?

Do you think a company would knowingly release product associated with a known rapists?

Seriously, do you think that's the case ?

I want justice for a rapists , racists.... In fact if I find anything remotely unsavory about a company, I won't support it.

But this is serious reaching. Which is par for the course on this board. Hanging others for your own gratification.

[close]

So you don't find this remotely unsavory? You think everything about this collaboration, and the situation Toy Machine has put themselves in, is all well and good?

[close]

I think it's bullshit and it should be pulled. Not one deck should see the shelf of a shop.

But I just found ihatejulio to be too going in way too hard without knowing facts

Has to be an oversight. No way they as a company knowingly released works of a rapist.

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You said "if you find anything remotely unsavory about a company, you won't support it," but you're still going all in for Toy Machine. You don't find this remotely unsavory? You don't think Toy Machine deserves any sort of blame for not doing the bare minimum of research about an artist they're collaborating with? Do you think it's somehow not Toy Machine's fault for unknowingly releasing the works of a rapist?

I think it was a mistake.

For example I wouldn't dream of purchasing or supporting GX1000 or any Jason Jesse shit show. Because I know they are rotten to the core.

I don't personally think Toy Machine proudly support rapists.

[RichardBarkley]

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"Pathetic cowards"

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Yes.

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Maybe they didn't know?

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I'm sure no one in the Toy Machine production line of this collaboration had access to google before funding this project. Great take.   

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Are you not gonna be satisfied until you take down every skate company around you ? Whats the end game ?

[close]

Just the ones that give paychecks to rapists and domestic abusers. The end game is to no longer have abusers, rapists, and misogynists involved in skateboarding in any capacity. Sorry that offends you so much, I'll be sure to consider your fragility next time something like this comes up.

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I bet you skate nikes

[close]

I bet you skate Toy Machine decks.

[close]

You're fried.

This was obviously an oversight. With a company this small there wouldn't be that many people involved.

Do you think it's a company full of rapists ?

Do you think a company would knowingly release product associated with a known rapists?

Seriously, do you think that's the case ?

I want justice for a rapists , racists.... In fact if I find anything remotely unsavory about a company, I won't support it.

But this is serious reaching. Which is par for the course on this board. Hanging others for your own gratification.

[close]

So you don't find this remotely unsavory? You think everything about this collaboration, and the situation Toy Machine has put themselves in, is all well and good?

[close]

I think it's bullshit and it should be pulled. Not one deck should see the shelf of a shop.

But I just found ihatejulio to be too going in way too hard without knowing facts

Has to be an oversight. No way they as a company knowingly released works of a rapist.

[close]

You said "if you find anything remotely unsavory about a company, you won't support it," but you're still going all in for Toy Machine. You don't find this remotely unsavory? You don't think Toy Machine deserves any sort of blame for not doing the bare minimum of research about an artist they're collaborating with? Do you think it's somehow not Toy Machine's fault for unknowingly releasing the works of a rapist?

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I think it was a mistake.

For example I wouldn't dream of purchasing or supporting GX1000 or any Jason Jesse shit show. Because I know they are rotten to the core.

I don't personally think Toy Machine proudly support rapists.

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You didn't answer the questions: You don't think Toy Machine deserves any sort of blame for not doing the bare minimum of research about an artist they're collaborating with? Do you think it's somehow not Toy Machine's fault for unknowingly releasing the works of a rapist?

Lol didn't know I was on trial.

Yeah they should have done research.

And yes they should take some blame.

I don't however think they should be cancelled.

[Seadramon]

Lol didn't know I was on trial.

Love seeing this shit: "I feel strongly about my beliefs - I'm going to express them. But fuck me, is it ever weird that I must hold accountability by elaborating/defending them."

Take the L man.

Let's say it is an oversight - that doesn't relieve them of blame.

If they "unintentionally" collaborated with a sexual offender it is still a problem. They still collaborated with a sexual offender.

[augustmoon]

this was probably in the works for a long time, but I 100% believe that they knew about this at some point before they were released and said "fuck it" and went ahead anyway.  They could have stopped it before the boards were produced. 

[Ms. Tamzarian]

I'm sure no one in the Toy Machine production line of this collaboration had access to google before funding this project. Great take.

^ Period.

There won't be any repercussions. There never are.

And if Toy were to ever address the issue (in a most likely deflective way ), the only discussion would be a list of pros responding on social media with (insert choice of heart emojis here). And then they'd all forget.

While there's a sea-change happening like we discussed in that white feminist kook thread (Julio led that one, thanks shredder I wish the shalomies could get you a weekend spa cause you own), this shit is typical.

There's a veritable old guard of fuckers doing shit like this all the time and never getting the hot seat for it. And then the next generation follows their lead. For every Ed and / or Dollin there's a hundred young skaters who grow up to be creeps, too. And the cycle continues. Just bros being bros - why would I exclude my artist buddy? He's my buddy!

Fuck that. If someone's your friend they're not immune to fault. To a lot of people it's reading too much into it. But for the rest of us it's just not reading into it at all. And reading into it is the bare minimum. The era of apathy is dying very miserably - I'm just tired of seeing members of our own community make it worse.

In short, to all the nay sayers:

Take the L man.
(...)
If they "unintentionally" collaborated with a sexual offender it is still a problem. They still collaborated with a sexual offender.

[urbneathme]

I was a huge fan of Ed when I was a kid and some of his contributions to making skating more inclusive were really cool. But he’s probably a creeper.

Anyone else remember that Arto interview where he says the first time he met Ed he went to Ed’s house and Ed was hanging out nude on a plastic covered sofa?

yo if being naked in your own home makes you a pervert or a creep everyone is fucked. if you genuinely believe that i urge you to get really into christianity. you’ll find a lot of like-minded individuals

[Ms. Tamzarian]

Ah shit I spaced and I forgot to add, Heckler you rule

Yeah uhh Beneathme I think the idea is not, nudity in one's own home is wrong. Rather, being deliberately nude in a remarkably creepy posturing (on a plastic covered couch?!) when you know company is arriving, is uhh, very very wrong.

(I think I typed that in Dr. Ian Malcolm voice)

[Theme For A Jackal]

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"Pathetic cowards"

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Yes.

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Maybe they didn't know?

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I'm sure no one in the Toy Machine production line of this collaboration had access to google before funding this project. Great take.   

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Are you not gonna be satisfied until you take down every skate company around you ? Whats the end game ?

[close]

Just the ones that give paychecks to rapists and domestic abusers. The end game is to no longer have abusers, rapists, and misogynists involved in skateboarding in any capacity. Sorry that offends you so much, I'll be sure to consider your fragility next time something like this comes up.

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I bet you skate nikes

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I bet you skate Toy Machine decks.

Ok but do you google every person you've ever done business with? Do you automatically assume everyone is trouble until you can prove otherwise? I get it, this is a big slip, but to automatically assume negative intent is a huge jump to conclusions

[Freelancevagrant]

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"Pathetic cowards"

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Yes.

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Maybe they didn't know?

[close]

I'm sure no one in the Toy Machine production line of this collaboration had access to google before funding this project. Great take.   

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Are you not gonna be satisfied until you take down every skate company around you ? Whats the end game ?

[close]

Just the ones that give paychecks to rapists and domestic abusers. The end game is to no longer have abusers, rapists, and misogynists involved in skateboarding in any capacity. Sorry that offends you so much, I'll be sure to consider your fragility next time something like this comes up.

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I bet you skate nikes

[close]

I bet you skate Toy Machine decks.

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Ok but do you google every person you've ever done business with? Do you automatically assume everyone is trouble until you can prove otherwise? I get it, this is a big slip, but to automatically assume negative intent is a huge jump to conclusions

I don’t do business with anyone but you better believe I would do at least a cursory google search of the person I was going to give money to or allow them to be forever linked to myself or my fictitious brand.

[RichardBarkley]

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"Pathetic cowards"

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Yes.

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Maybe they didn't know?

[close]

I'm sure no one in the Toy Machine production line of this collaboration had access to google before funding this project. Great take.   

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Are you not gonna be satisfied until you take down every skate company around you ? Whats the end game ?

[close]

Just the ones that give paychecks to rapists and domestic abusers. The end game is to no longer have abusers, rapists, and misogynists involved in skateboarding in any capacity. Sorry that offends you so much, I'll be sure to consider your fragility next time something like this comes up.

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I bet you skate nikes

[close]

I bet you skate Toy Machine decks.

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Ok but do you google every person you've ever done business with? Do you automatically assume everyone is trouble until you can prove otherwise? I get it, this is a big slip, but to automatically assume negative intent is a huge jump to conclusions

Exactly

[SatanicPanic]

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I was a huge fan of Ed when I was a kid and some of his contributions to making skating more inclusive were really cool. But he’s probably a creeper.

Anyone else remember that Arto interview where he says the first time he met Ed he went to Ed’s house and Ed was hanging out nude on a plastic covered sofa?

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yo if being naked in your own home makes you a pervert or a creep everyone is fucked. if you genuinely believe that i urge you to get really into christianity. you’ll find a lot of like-minded individuals

Yeah dude I’m a prude because the owner of one of the top companies at the time invited a teenage am over and couldn’t be bothered to put clothes on. Nothing fucking weird about that.

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"Pathetic cowards"

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Yes.

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Maybe they didn't know?

[close]

I'm sure no one in the Toy Machine production line of this collaboration had access to google before funding this project. Great take.   

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Are you not gonna be satisfied until you take down every skate company around you ? Whats the end game ?

[close]

Just the ones that give paychecks to rapists and domestic abusers. The end game is to no longer have abusers, rapists, and misogynists involved in skateboarding in any capacity. Sorry that offends you so much, I'll be sure to consider your fragility next time something like this comes up.

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I bet you skate nikes

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I bet you skate Toy Machine decks.

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Ok but do you google every person you've ever done business with? Do you automatically assume everyone is trouble until you can prove otherwise? I get it, this is a big slip, but to automatically assume negative intent is a huge jump to conclusions

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Exactly

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Intent doesn’t matter. Final results matter.

So what do you think the outcome of this should be?

[ok boomer]

Did Ed "art" too far this time?

[fulltechnicalskizzy]

Does Ed even oversee the Toy Machine graphics these days?

Have you seen a pic of CJ Collin smoking a cigarette?

[boogs]

Burn them

[NORTHBYMIDWEST]

Kinda off topic but are Ed and 10/10 cousins or some shit?

[ihatejulio]

ed had said a while ago in an interview that he doesn't do the art for toy machine anymore and he barely has anything to do with the day-to-day.  not really surprising that people like ihatejulio haven't done any due diligence to actually know something like that though

Please point to where I mentioned Ed in any of my posts in this thread. I said the Toy Machine production line is responsible. Not surprised a moron like you can’t read what I actually wrote.