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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1830 on: July 27, 2024, 07:04:04 PM »
Ya I put these on a new deck and have wheelbite marks as well.

Not much to really add to the more extensive reviews. I've had a set for ~3 weeks and mostly agree with BeachChicken. The turn is the selling point and it delivers, but I skate a lot of transition and have skated Ventures the last year just fine so these don't fix something that isn't broken. They are really fun to carve on.

The pinch is as terrible as they say. I had no desire to skate ledges with these. I'm used to it, but it's not good and is just like an Ace, which I never cared for a ton. Grind is same as Ace depends if you like that. The kingpin clearance has already been pointed out and I didn't measure it, but it looks worse than Stage IV. I don't care about it a whole lot but it's made skating our double sided curb spot a chore and I really don't need to make skating harder for myself.

To me the pop feel is heavier than my Ventures. I haven't skated Indy's in a long time so I don't know if it's the height, but I've got the hollows and my pop is 100% better on both my normal and transition setup (8.75 Cream Eagle) and the Eagle is quite a pig. I've tried them on both setups and I am pretty used to them, but find it a bit inconsistent and my flip tricks haven't been this bad in years. I got tired of adjusting so I gave them to a friend that seems fairly immune to gear choices.

I notice Feedback Ted skating them on IG which makes sense since he can probably write 1,000 words about how brutalist architecture influenced Oksi's design ethos. They're not "bad", like a Krux or something, but the performance just isn't there FOR ME.

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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1831 on: July 27, 2024, 09:44:07 PM »
Suddenly feeling bummed I bought a set of 160 hollows, but whatever.
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« Reply #1832 on: July 28, 2024, 10:01:16 AM »
Don't be bummed! They're a fun truck this is all nitpicking honestly. Everyone wants a different feel and set of attributes out of their board. The fact that you got 160s indicates you like a bigger board so my guess is you're not worried about flat ground minutiae. If I had different needs right now I'd probably be content.

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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1833 on: July 28, 2024, 10:07:32 AM »
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-the antiwheel bite tech works for sure as the pivot cup catches before hanger dips to that point

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What now?

Please clarify, explain. Do you mean to say that the square pivot design just 'stops' at some point?

It's hard to explain but ofcourse you can wheelbite but Instead of stoping completely or getting tossed now only one wheel slightly hits the deck and I still roll away.

*They skate like a tall ACE

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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1834 on: July 28, 2024, 03:18:33 PM »
Don't be bummed! They're a fun truck this is all nitpicking honestly. Everyone wants a different feel and set of attributes out of their board. The fact that you got 160s indicates you like a bigger board so my guess is you're not worried about flat ground minutiae. If I had different needs right now I'd probably be content.

I actually like flat ground! I just have size 13 feet is all. Ill ride them on short WB 8.75. Ordered a polar Shin to accompany it.
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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1835 on: July 28, 2024, 05:27:23 PM »
Hollow 150s weigh 335g

Bottom bushing: 12.7mm
Top bushing: 10.15mm

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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1836 on: July 29, 2024, 04:43:35 AM »
Update:

Bushings are broken in now (took no time at all) and feel perfect, still haven’t tightened or loosened anything, they’re as they were when I took them out of the box, I have experienced wheel bite but it was literally from landing a drop wonky, tried forcing wheel bite and I had to lean really aggressively, did some grinds on a rough ledge and it felt nice and smooth,

I haven’t really got anything bad to say about these trucks, they look rad and skate really nice

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« Reply #1837 on: July 29, 2024, 10:48:51 AM »
Long story I don't wanna detail but I ended up with a standard and hollow pair of these. I will say the hollows have a noticeably lighter pop, but it's not insanely different. The pop feel ends up closer to Venture for me with these on this deck at least.

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« Reply #1838 on: July 29, 2024, 11:22:32 AM »
Had to get a pair of the 150 standards. Took some measurements:

367g per truck with washers and nuts
54mm high
13mm bottom bushing
10mm top bushing
8.375” axle
148mm hanger width

Took a photo comparing the height to Ace AF1:


The Lurpivs are clearly taller. I measured the Aces at 52mm on both sides. I thought they were taller than that.

The hanger is the same width as Ace AF1 55 with 1 washer per side but the axle seems ever so slightly shorter.

I think the bushings are the same height as Indy bushings. Correct me if I’m wrong. That would make for an easy swap to some other duro if they fit otherwise.

Looking forward to seeing how these skate. If they can solve the problem I’ve had with the anemic pop on Aces but still turn really well I’m gonna be stoked. If not, then I’ll probably stick with Aces as I’ve got 13 pairs of Aces left.  :-X

Edit: Wheelbase extension I got as approximately 3.15625” (3 & 5/32”) compared to 2.96875“ (2 & 31/32”) on Ace AF1s.

Note: I tried to be precise with the measurements but of course some may be off so don’t take these personally.  :)
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« Reply #1839 on: July 29, 2024, 12:46:39 PM »
https://ibb.co/dJVc1sx
https://ibb.co/P41XxHp
https://ibb.co/bJ2nPkc
https://ibb.co/Hd6gPYn

Let me know if the links don't work but if you average out my axle measurements you get 55.5. The bushings stick for the first hour or 2 so they're never level.

Bushings are same height as Ace Low I think and measured just over 12 for the bottom and under 10 for the top (3rd and 4th link above).

Axle tip to tip is 8.5 no clue where you got 8.375 from.

I can't speak for anemic pop, but these are going to have a way stiffer pop feel. I'd put it on Par with my Venture V-Cast but more delayed. I've ridden Ventures on 14.38 and have my best Tre flips on that setup, but with the Lurpiv 150 hollow on the same deck they are a fucking chore to whip around. I feel like pop can be really personal and it's definitely dependent on the timing that works for you, wheels, and deck.

Why do you have 13 pairs of trucks lol? There isn't exactly an Ace scarcity. Have you tried risers with them? I think if you're used to Ace then the pinch and turn will feel super familiar.
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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1840 on: July 29, 2024, 05:30:52 PM »
https://ibb.co/dJVc1sx
https://ibb.co/P41XxHp
https://ibb.co/bJ2nPkc
https://ibb.co/Hd6gPYn

Let me know if the links don't work but if you average out my axle measurements you get 55.5. The bushings stick for the first hour or 2 so they're never level.

Bushings are same height as Ace Low I think and measured just over 12 for the bottom and under 10 for the top (3rd and 4th link above).

Axle tip to tip is 8.5 no clue where you got 8.375 from.

I can't speak for anemic pop, but these are going to have a way stiffer pop feel. I'd put it on Par with my Venture V-Cast but more delayed. I've ridden Ventures on 14.38 and have my best Tre flips on that setup, but with the Lurpiv 150 hollow on the same deck they are a fucking chore to whip around. I feel like pop can be really personal and it's definitely dependent on the timing that works for you, wheels, and deck.

Why do you have 13 pairs of trucks lol? There isn't exactly an Ace scarcity. Have you tried risers with them? I think if you're used to Ace then the pinch and turn will feel super familiar.

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« Reply #1841 on: July 29, 2024, 06:17:05 PM »






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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1842 on: July 29, 2024, 11:43:25 PM »
https://ibb.co/dJVc1sx
https://ibb.co/P41XxHp
https://ibb.co/bJ2nPkc
https://ibb.co/Hd6gPYn

Let me know if the links don't work but if you average out my axle measurements you get 55.5. The bushings stick for the first hour or 2 so they're never level.

Bushings are same height as Ace Low I think and measured just over 12 for the bottom and under 10 for the top (3rd and 4th link above).

Axle tip to tip is 8.5 no clue where you got 8.375 from.

I can't speak for anemic pop, but these are going to have a way stiffer pop feel. I'd put it on Par with my Venture V-Cast but more delayed. I've ridden Ventures on 14.38 and have my best Tre flips on that setup, but with the Lurpiv 150 hollow on the same deck they are a fucking chore to whip around. I feel like pop can be really personal and it's definitely dependent on the timing that works for you, wheels, and deck.

Why do you have 13 pairs of trucks lol? There isn't exactly an Ace scarcity. Have you tried risers with them? I think if you're used to Ace then the pinch and turn will feel super familiar.

Maybe my tape measure is off then as it seems that the stuff I measured with it seem to be off.

I’ve got 13 pairs of Aces because I’ve got various sizes of both Classics and AF1s (00, 33, 44, 55, 60, 66), one pair of 66 hollows. Some are close to being completely ground down and I got some spares of the sizes I use most as some place had a mad sale with like 40% off of both Classics and AF1s. Typing this I’m actually surprised I don’t have more.

I love Venture pop but can’t deal with the turn. I use 1/8” risers with Aces pretty much always but still the pop is more difficult for me than with Ventures or Indys. So, let’s see how the Lurpivs perform for me.

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« Reply #1843 on: July 30, 2024, 06:54:49 AM »
Oh dude I think they might be close to your jam then! I'm a tall dude and solid medium truck rider so Venture with fucked up bushings is plenty loose for me. I also skate more ledges and curbs than transition and the pinch of even an Indy is nicer for me, but I could adjust to these too.

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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1844 on: July 30, 2024, 02:58:44 PM »
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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1845 on: July 31, 2024, 10:04:20 AM »


Just setting up my polished hollow 160 slurps, super looking forward to them. They’re actually a lot closer to my Ace AF1 60s than I expected. They’re slightly taller, about 20g less per truck in weight, hanger is a smidge wider. They obviously look pretty heinous but that’s part of what I like about them. Will report back after a couple sessions.



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« Reply #1846 on: July 31, 2024, 11:59:15 AM »
they look good with that deck and wheels

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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1847 on: August 01, 2024, 01:58:33 PM »
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-the antiwheel bite tech works for sure as the pivot cup catches before hanger dips to that point

[close]

What now?

Please clarify, explain. Do you mean to say that the square pivot design just 'stops' at some point?

https://youtu.be/Eb4HTetjUIY?t=321

So was this really supposed to be a thing? 'truck bite' before you get wheelbite? What a weird way to avoid wheel bite...we'll make you bite before you bite thereby no making wheelbite non-existent...

(I know it's been said people are getting wheelbite regardless).

Perhaps a better take?
https://youtu.be/M8O_FAfQjnA?t=87
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« Reply #1848 on: August 01, 2024, 02:09:16 PM »
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-the antiwheel bite tech works for sure as the pivot cup catches before hanger dips to that point

[close]

What now?

Please clarify, explain. Do you mean to say that the square pivot design just 'stops' at some point?
[close]

https://youtu.be/Eb4HTetjUIY?t=321

So was this really supposed to be a thing? 'truck bite' before you get wheelbite? What a weird way to avoid wheel bite...we'll make you bite before you bite thereby no making wheelbite non-existent...

(I know it's been said people are getting wheelbite regardless).

I don't know how well it works in practice... probably not very, but the concept makes sense to me. Metal biting metal should be less jarring and less likely to pitch you than wood biting urethane, at least on paper

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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1849 on: August 02, 2024, 01:33:47 AM »
I have experienced little to no wheelbite and I haven’t tightened them since I bought them,

I think people need to stop taking that part so literally and use common sense, I know it says anti wheelbite, but how can that really be possible? Unless you have trucks like a foot tall you’re always going to manage to wheelbite in extreme scenarios

That strange man on YouTube did a review with his trucks seemingly hanging on by a thread and complained about the wheelbite

It’s like getting anti flat spot wheels and dragging them along concrete for an hour and saying “SEE they DO flat spot!!”
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« Reply #1850 on: August 02, 2024, 06:27:04 AM »
I think people are focusing on it because there's lots of observations about the bad pinch and they think it could be because of that feature.

The more I think about it the more the turn reminds me of my limited time on Royals.

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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1851 on: August 02, 2024, 12:55:44 PM »
I’m gonna be honest; I’m loco for these lurpivs. Actually totally surprised at how much I like them right away. It’s obviously just the first session so we’ll see if it holds but they feel great, which makes sense how similar they look to my aces. I also don’t do a ton of pinched tricks so I’m thinking that won’t hold back my enjoyment too much.

I sort of thought they’d be a novelty and then I’d move back to my aces after a couple of weeks but now I’m sort of considering keeping them on.
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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1852 on: August 03, 2024, 03:00:18 AM »
Hi guys
My town just for a local and somehow they have Lurpiv
I can’t find what is the wheelbase effect of these trucks like how much does it push out the wb compared to Indy, thunder, ace. Thanks! I see lots of detail on the height. Weight seems similar to thunder team.

edit: after searching the topic using the search feature, some have said that the WB effect is closer to a thunder. The WB is pushed out MORE than an indy. Would be nice to know exact numbers.

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« Reply #1853 on: August 03, 2024, 07:13:20 AM »
Myself and @CarcassToss both got +3.2, some people got +3.1875. It's just about Venture length.

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« Reply #1854 on: August 03, 2024, 08:49:38 PM »
Okay so I got given a set of 150 solids and have had three sessions on them. Mixed feelings, but largely enjoying them right now

I can't be bothered measuring and weighing but:
 
 - They feel fairly light, definitely very tall, pic is next to cast plate ventures which is what I usually skate

- They actually seem to have a long ish wheelbase, just a smidge shorter than ventures eyeballing it. The two boards in that pic are the same April 8.5







Usual setup is April 8.5 (14.4 wb), venture cast hollow 5.8s stock, and currently on some 55mm classics that are worn to about 52mm.

Swapped the trucks out, pop feel is great. Lighter than ventures, manual point is a lil better too.

Turn and stability is awesome. I'm riding them just a smidge tighter than my ventures, and they stay straight and feel very solid until I want to lean into the turn and then it just goes. I don't care too much about turn and carve but it is a nice novelty coming from ventures. Objectively not as stable as ventures though, but for a tall turny truck they're great

Prefer the pop on these to ventures for flatground. The tipping point for a couple tricks on ventures has never felt that great to me (nollie fs flips most notably) and these instantly worked better. Haven't done a flatground trick where these were noticeably worse than on ventures.

They are quite tall so still fully adjusting to the timing for ledge tricks, but feels fine for the most part. Fakie and nollie pop also feels a bit easier, something about it being a bit taller and lighter feeling to pop. Haven't skated rougher or drier ledge where the baseplate slide or kingpin clearance would be an issue. But I imagine I'll definitely get annoyed about the kingpin clearance when I next skate a concrete ledge and want to do some back smiths.

The worst part about these is the pinch. Maybe if you skate aces or something it won't be that big of a deal but I was having a much harder time doing all the usual crooked grind variations I do. Just felt much more prone to slipping to noseslide/tailslide or missing the pinch altogether. Even front smiths on a round bar were slipping a lil because the hanger arcs so deep. Starting to adjust to it a little bit so maybe I'll get over it, but objectively these pinch like shit compared to ventures.

Tried putting on 55.5mm radials and it helped a little, but it made my board feel wayyy too tall and heavy.

Haven't felt any wheelbite at all, maybe its the anti wb tech. But more likely just the fact that they're tall, I'm not riding them loose, and have pretty small wheels

Its interesting because I ride ventures even though for a few things I like to do, the pop and tipping point feel suboptimal. But they're stable, predictable, have a lot of kp clearance and pinch great. Meanwhile these have shit kp clearance and pinch, but a better pop and tipping point feel.

Probably going to skate these until the pinch or kingpin starts to really annoy me, or if the bushings/pivot cup wear down and start to get a bit too loose n squirrelly I will not be able to deal

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« Reply #1855 on: August 03, 2024, 09:12:19 PM »
Venture to Lurpiv means you're sovande

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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1856 on: August 03, 2024, 11:55:54 PM »
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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1857 on: August 04, 2024, 07:50:08 PM »
Set up mine tonight. Tactics for some reason canceled my order, I guess my bank denied the transaction or some shit, and it got returned to them, so I ordered some from somewhere else and got solids instead of hollows.
Ive got them loaded up on a Krooked 8.75 barbee with the 14.62 wb. A little concerned this will feel pretty long and I will want to go back to Polar's short wheelbases (come on Soy, get with the 8.75 <14.5 program Magenta) I also ride 53mm wheels so these will feel tall, but as a big dude, the reduced wheel bite liklihood is something I am excited about. We will see tomorrow morning at 7am or thereabots.

edit: just to be clear and retain my cool points - my local isnt doing Lurpiv.
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« Reply #1858 on: August 06, 2024, 08:48:34 PM »
Took these on my vacation the last week and skated too many oddly designed skateparks. Definitely going to pass them on. I got used to the pop eventually and it was mostly not bad, but it's really annoying dealing with the pinch and the kingpin clearance is not working for me. I get better clearance even on Thunders or Indys and the turn is really fun, but I'm not in a spot with my skating where I'm willing to tolerate the downsides to get a bit deeper carve that I don't even really need. My other boards have Ventures at probably medium flush and I've found no upsides in transition on these especially trying to dip a smith grind and eating shit straight to flat bottom.

I really thought V1 pinched better and popped a bit lighter and these are a total step up in QC, but I think this truck needs the IKP to shine and don't really understand why it was brought to market. Who out there is so turn limited that they're willing to tolerate the KP clearance of like, barely above a Venture Lo?

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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1859 on: August 06, 2024, 10:39:31 PM »
Anyone able to confirm if a kingpin nut will hold naturally without JB weld in the baseplate cavity for inverted pins?