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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1860 on: August 06, 2024, 10:54:46 PM »
Anyone know what factory they’re being made in? Sorry if it’s been talked about already. We got some in at the shop I run, and the box it came in is the exact same as the ones ACE come in.

Also, the finish on the Lurpiv’s, remind me of the finish on Classic ACE trucks

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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1861 on: August 06, 2024, 11:36:20 PM »
Anyone know what factory they’re being made in? Sorry if it’s been talked about already. We got some in at the shop I run, and the box it came in is the exact same as the ones ACE come in.

Also, the finish on the Lurpiv’s, remind me of the finish on Classic ACE trucks
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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1862 on: August 07, 2024, 05:19:13 AM »
Anyone know what factory they’re being made in? Sorry if it’s been talked about already. We got some in at the shop I run, and the box it came in is the exact same as the ones ACE come in.

Also, the finish on the Lurpiv’s, remind me of the finish on Classic ACE trucks

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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1863 on: August 07, 2024, 06:45:27 AM »
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Anyone know what factory they’re being made in? Sorry if it’s been talked about already. We got some in at the shop I run, and the box it came in is the exact same as the ones ACE come in.

From various bits and pieces I’ve been able to gather on here:  Lurpiv, Ace and the new Royals are all made in the Paris Trucks Factory.


Also, the finish on the Lurpiv’s, remind me of the finish on Classic ACE trucks
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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1864 on: August 07, 2024, 06:50:23 AM »
lol so far the reviews have not been stellar

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« Reply #1865 on: August 07, 2024, 09:32:11 AM »
I dunno how to phrase this, but remember that every truck has its trade offs. They're not inherently bad.

Pros:
-Ace level turn that feels more stable and predictable. If you ride them tighter they still turn and there's no random u turns.
-They don't completely prevent wheelbite, but it's much harder.
-For my friend the pop feel is exactly what he wants it's kinda like Indy lightness and a fraction heavier. This is super individual but only one person on here seems to not like it. It's delayed and that may or may not work for you.
-Grind is good really no complaints there honestly.
-I think they look pretty cool.
-Finish is really, really nice.

Cons:
-KP clearance. It's really not good. I have a bunch of trucks in the attic and so does my friend and from what we can tell it's close to Thunder and maybe slightly worse. It hangs up on Smiths and feebles for me frequently although it's better now on double sided curbs since it's worn but it catches on flat bars and sticks. I skate a lot of transition and it's hung up on a fucking fakie rock before. For a transition oriented truck I really can't believe this was the design they settled on.
-Pinch. It's not as bad as I recall Ace Classic being and I like AF1 better overall. You have to focus on it and will frequently fall into slides on accident. I'm used to it by now and it's fine for slappies and smaller obstacles, but the few times I've skated some of the ASU ledge spots I've not had a great time.
-For me the manual point is really, really weird. I'm used to it and don't do tons of manuals aside from the basics, but shuv it nose manuals are the last remaining "tech" trick I have and it's kinda hard to lean into them and I either touch the nose and fall or set the wheels down. This is very individual as well. I realllllly thought my V1 were next level for me for manuals.

I think trucks depend a lot on what you want and where you're at with your skating. Years ago when I was really into Ace and Indy style trucks and skating parks and very minimal ledge skating I woulda liked these more. As an adult that still mostly skates parks and tries to get out of the park on weekends I don't have the patience to deal with the shortcomings. Super high quality product, but I cannot see why you'd ride these over an AF1 or Indy. If those turn too loose just change the bushings the Lurpivs are 92 after all.

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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1866 on: August 07, 2024, 12:09:46 PM »
Kingpin clearance sucks but I would definitely rather ride these than aces. They're much more stable at the same tightness, and they push out the wb which I prefer. The pop doesn't feel anemic like how aces feels to me, but still lighter and easier than ventures while giving almost better yield.

Still not happy about pinch and kp clearance but for the time being still riding them

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« Reply #1867 on: August 07, 2024, 02:01:48 PM »
When I rode Aces I typically was riding larger, conical style wheels on them and my boards then were usually the DLX 8.38 or Generator 8.5 shapes with 14.5WB and my pop was pretty good. I had a lot of Polar 8.5s with Aces as well and I recall those having fairly short tails, which I love with an Ace or Indy. I think you need the shorter tail and bigger, more square wheels to compensate for the short comings. Square wheels definitely help with the pinch, but don't cure it.

I always used hard bushings in Ace and blues/blacks with Indys and move on from Ace to Thunder and then Venture because, like you pointed out, man sometimes you just cannot change that a squirrely truck is designed to be squirrely. Lurpiv kills it regarding turn. No denying that, they are damn fun just to ride around on. I'm also weird in that I think medium loose Ventures are incredibly fun and really didn't enjoy Aces with stock bushings even for more casual cruising.

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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1868 on: August 07, 2024, 02:23:17 PM »
When I rode Aces I typically was riding larger, conical style wheels on them and my boards then were usually the DLX 8.38 or Generator 8.5 shapes with 14.5WB and my pop was pretty good. I had a lot of Polar 8.5s with Aces as well and I recall those having fairly short tails, which I love with an Ace or Indy. I think you need the shorter tail and bigger, more square wheels to compensate for the short comings. Square wheels definitely help with the pinch, but don't cure it.

I always used hard bushings in Ace and blues/blacks with Indys and move on from Ace to Thunder and then Venture because, like you pointed out, man sometimes you just cannot change that a squirrely truck is designed to be squirrely. Lurpiv kills it regarding turn. No denying that, they are damn fun just to ride around on. I'm also weird in that I think medium loose Ventures are incredibly fun and really didn't enjoy Aces with stock bushings even for more casual cruising.

Yeah, I briefly tried these lurpivs with 55.5 radials instead of my worn 55mm classics which are 52 now. Pinched a lil better but board became too tall and heavy.

Ventures are the only truck I can skate on the looser side and still have my tricks, just because they stay quite stable. I do like these lurpivs because they don't feel squirrelly ever, feel pretty stable until you really lean in which isn't my experience with aces


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« Reply #1869 on: August 07, 2024, 04:19:45 PM »
I liked my AF1 with hards, but you still get u-turn landings which is why I eventually switched. Af1 are 53mm IIRC and I want to say the biggest I went on them was 55ish? So that makes sense Lurpiv felt heavier for you given you were 2.5mm taller.

One thing I did notice about Lurpiv was that when I did manage nose manuals nudging out of them and off the end of the pad was incredibly easy and nice. I feel with Indys I kinda have to push it and with Lurpiv it was like a little tap. I bet if I went out and focused on manuals again I could figure it out, but lately I tend to just do a few at one specific skatepark so I don't practice as frequently as I should. I will say that one really nice thing about them vs Ace or Indy is that even for a normal manual you don't start getting imbalance where you get wiggle/turn if you are shifting your weight.

Honestly just talking about this makes me respect people that seem to have no issue skating trucks that didn't work for me. I just cannot imagine what it would be like to do a lot of the nuttier manuals I've seen even posted on here.

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« Reply #1870 on: August 07, 2024, 04:07:09 PM »
I liked my AF1 with hards, but you still get u-turn landings which is why I eventually switched. Af1 are 53mm IIRC and I want to say the biggest I went on them was 55ish? So that makes sense Lurpiv felt heavier for you given you were 2.5mm taller.

One thing I did notice about Lurpiv was that when I did manage nose manuals nudging out of them and off the end of the pad was incredibly easy and nice. I feel with Indys I kinda have to push it and with Lurpiv it was like a little tap. I bet if I went out and focused on manuals again I could figure it out, but lately I tend to just do a few at one specific skatepark so I don't practice as frequently as I should. I will say that one really nice thing about them vs Ace or Indy is that even for a normal manual you don't start getting imbalance where you get wiggle/turn if you are shifting your weight.

Honestly just talking about this makes me respect people that seem to have no issue skating trucks that didn't work for me. I just cannot imagine what it would be like to do a lot of the nuttier manuals I've seen even posted on here.

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« Reply #1871 on: August 07, 2024, 04:03:57 PM »
I liked my AF1 with hards, but you still get u-turn landings which is why I eventually switched. Af1 are 53mm IIRC and I want to say the biggest I went on them was 55ish? So that makes sense Lurpiv felt heavier for you given you were 2.5mm taller.

One thing I did notice about Lurpiv was that when I did manage nose manuals nudging out of them and off the end of the pad was incredibly easy and nice. I feel with Indys I kinda have to push it and with Lurpiv it was like a little tap. I bet if I went out and focused on manuals again I could figure it out, but lately I tend to just do a few at one specific skatepark so I don't practice as frequently as I should. I will say that one really nice thing about them vs Ace or Indy is that even for a normal manual you don't start getting imbalance where you get wiggle/turn if you are shifting your weight.

Honestly just talking about this makes me respect people that seem to have no issue skating trucks that didn't work for me. I just cannot imagine what it would be like to do a lot of the nuttier manuals I've seen even posted on here.

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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1872 on: August 07, 2024, 04:01:08 PM »
I found them to be better, but in the same conversation as Venture highs…..I think if the height doesn’t bother you, great truck….

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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1873 on: August 07, 2024, 04:44:30 PM »
These sound intriguing as a Venture rider looking for something more fun on a secondary cruiser/pushing around town board. Long wheelbase but turny is something I never considered in a truck before.

But, I really don't need any more stuff.

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« Reply #1874 on: August 07, 2024, 05:02:53 PM »
I caved and bought a set of 145’s at Labor today.  Set them up on a 14” wheelbase Girl and skated flat for about 30 minutes.  What’s weird is I assumed these were their 8.25” truck but axle and hangar are near 1/8” bigger on each side than an AF1 44 so it’s closer to 8.5”. Not a big deal for me.

They’re surprisingly light.  Manuals were an instant improvement over AF1.  Ngl the “anti” wheelbite thing is pretty cool.  I can still wheelbite them but you really gotta sink your weight.

The pop is loose but very stable as has been mentioned.  Pop feel felt better than AF1, not as anemic or dead feeling.  No issue for me with flip tricks, nollie etc.

They were very loose out of the box but I’ve still gotta break in the bushings.

KP clearance es basura.

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« Reply #1875 on: August 07, 2024, 06:01:14 PM »
I can't imagine skating Ace on a 14" WB so it would make sense that the heft would give you better pop.

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« Reply #1876 on: August 07, 2024, 09:26:33 PM »
Got my first session in on these today and I’m stoked. Pinch is similar to Ace style which I actually enjoy and pop feel is great. I don’t do many smiths but tailslides were going perfect not that there’s any reason they wouldn’t. Kickflipped our diy’s bump to bar for the first time so I’m pretty hyped.

All that said i could have likely had the same session on ventures but I am having a ton of fun with these so far.

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« Reply #1877 on: August 07, 2024, 10:16:28 PM »
Keep the hype and fun alive, fuck the reviews. We could all use some more fun and hype in our day to day.

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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1878 on: August 08, 2024, 12:29:02 AM »
These sound intriguing as a Venture rider looking for something more fun on a secondary cruiser/pushing around town board. Long wheelbase but turny is something I never considered in a truck before.

But, I really don't need any more stuff.

I'm in the exact same boat, right down to being happily awake. I think I would like them, I kinda wanna try them, but I really can't justify buying more trucks. For years if I'm being honest. Ah, the madness.
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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1879 on: August 08, 2024, 04:27:39 AM »
I caved and bought a set of 145’s at Labor today.  Set them up on a 14” wheelbase Girl and skated flat for about 30 minutes.  What’s weird is I assumed these were their 8.25” truck but axle and hangar are near 1/8” bigger on each side than an AF1 44 so it’s closer to 8.5”. Not a big deal for me.

They’re surprisingly light.  Manuals were an instant improvement over AF1.  Ngl the “anti” wheelbite thing is pretty cool.  I can still wheelbite them but you really gotta sink your weight.

The pop is loose but very stable as has been mentioned.  Pop feel felt better than AF1, not as anemic or dead feeling.  No issue for me with flip tricks, nollie etc.

They were very loose out of the box but I’ve still gotta break in the bushings.

KP clearance es basura.

Skated these for another hour or so last night.  I’m really liking them.  The bushings are breaking in nicely.  I’m missing less flip tricks bc of the stability while setting up.  Riding 56 CF and have very minimal wheelbite.

Also fwiw the look is really growing on me.  I was really unsure but after getting them and setting them up I think they look cool.

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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1880 on: August 08, 2024, 06:02:53 AM »
How is the wheelbite situation on jiggly loose Lurpiv 2s on 52mm wheels with no risers, no wheel-wells?

All this talk of pinch being more difficult, more likely to pop back down to tail/nose/board, does this have something to do with the anti-wheelbite pivot cup, or rather just the increased height of the truck? I would think lower trucks pinch better because the bushings have less potential spring energy at the point where the board and wheel make the extra point of contact.

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« Reply #1881 on: August 08, 2024, 07:11:19 AM »
How is the wheelbite situation on jiggly loose Lurpiv 2s on 52mm wheels with no risers, no wheel-wells?

All this talk of pinch being more difficult, more likely to pop back down to tail/nose/board, does this have something to do with the anti-wheelbite pivot cup, or rather just the increased height of the truck? I would think lower trucks pinch better because the bushings have less potential spring energy at the point where the board and wheel make the extra point of contact.

I personally have found the pinch to be better than I anticipated, better than aces for sure. Maybe on par with an Indy.  I think turny trucks pinch worse in general because as you pinch the hanger rotates more around the king pin. Where a thunder or venture tend to have the hanger press more directly towards the board. I will say I was impressed with how well I was popping out of crooked grinds.

In my opinion jiggly loose riders may be disappointed with how hard the stock bushings are as I typically ride medium loose trucks and switch out for a harder bushing (ace-hards, Indy-blue) and have found these to be very perfect for me at like having  half a thread showing (190lbs btw).

Kind of rambling, but overall I really like these trucks, always liked the look, and feel like the stock bushings not being super soft is a return to sanity (or maybe I’m just overweight and washed)


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« Reply #1882 on: August 08, 2024, 07:50:21 AM »
The pinch is not on par with Indy I have ridden them essentially back to back. I don't think it's bc of the wheelbase tech and more on the geo of the truck and how much the hanger arcs when compressed. It seems the consensus is that these pinch equivalent to Ace. For me the pop out was terrible more like it kinda fell or pushed out especially in the middle of a ledge. Curbs are fine because they're curbs.

I'd agree with the bushings and do the same swap on Indy. They felt super loose at fits but then once I skated them the stability is such that I didn't touch them. I'd wager Lurpiv will release softer bushings for them. I don't know the Ace heights but a few pages back I posted the Lurpiv bushing measurement pics maybe Ace standards would fit. I also agree that I wouldn't want the bushings softer stock as it's not necessary and would end up like Royal where people complained about having threads showing.

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« Reply #1883 on: August 08, 2024, 08:17:13 AM »
Buddy brought his set of 160's to the park yesterday and I took them apart and inspected the pivot cups and bushings. The pivot cups are like AF1's where they're really thick with a tiny hole for the hanger nub, compared to normal type pivot cups. They didn't feel as gooey and soft like the AF1 cups though. The bushings were pretty hard in the pinch test between my fingers compared to stock Ace bushings. I realize this is coming from someone who runs Ace mediums and loose as hell trucks, but setting up the 'pivs with flush kingpin nuts the turn wasn't to my liking at all, and wasn't deep or carvy whatsoever. They had good pop and grinded fine on coping and curb, though. And they do look even sicker in person. If they had some different bushings to really unlock that turn I could see them being better.

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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1884 on: August 08, 2024, 08:32:33 AM »
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How is the wheelbite situation on jiggly loose Lurpiv 2s on 52mm wheels with no risers, no wheel-wells?

All this talk of pinch being more difficult, more likely to pop back down to tail/nose/board, does this have something to do with the anti-wheelbite pivot cup, or rather just the increased height of the truck? I would think lower trucks pinch better because the bushings have less potential spring energy at the point where the board and wheel make the extra point of contact.
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I personally have found the pinch to be better than I anticipated, better than aces for sure. Maybe on par with an Indy.  I think turny trucks pinch worse in general because as you pinch the hanger rotates more around the king pin. Where a thunder or venture tend to have the hanger press more directly towards the board. I will say I was impressed with how well I was popping out of crooked grinds.

In my opinion jiggly loose riders may be disappointed with how hard the stock bushings are as I typically ride medium loose trucks and switch out for a harder bushing (ace-hards, Indy-blue) and have found these to be very perfect for me at like having  half a thread showing (190lbs btw).

Kind of rambling, but overall I really like these trucks, always liked the look, and feel like the stock bushings not being super soft is a return to sanity (or maybe I’m just overweight and washed)

I guess I'll have to try them. Wheelbite is my nemesis, but I actually like a jiggly loose Ace or Indy with cut down hard bushings, no washers. So it has some play in the middle where it doesn't engage any bushing pressure at all, but when it does, the rebound is hard. Eventually the kingpin hole in the hanger gets really wide and they get a bit squirrelly. A hardened steel ring insert in that spot might be cool, although it would also break more kingpins.

I think truck design has a lot of room for innovation and I'm glad Oski is trying some new shit like this pivot cup shelf.

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« Reply #1885 on: August 08, 2024, 09:44:42 AM »
Nothing about these trucks is new or innovative. The "anti wheelbite tech" has existed on trucks in the past. The only innovative thing maybe is the look, which has existed somewhat on older, smaller trucks. The materials aren't new or proprietary either. They made an Ace a bit taller and more stretched out and changed the look a bit. Basically what Slappy sorta did, but they have a corny name and branding so people aren't as excited even tho they seem to be well loved.

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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1886 on: August 08, 2024, 10:31:13 AM »
A tall Ace with an extended wheelbase sounds like a good time to me, I'm not sure what more you guys want.

Thunders don't turn, ventures don't turn.

Lurpivs turn.

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« Reply #1887 on: August 08, 2024, 10:32:56 AM »
Nothing about these trucks is new or innovative. The "anti wheelbite tech" has existed on trucks in the past. The only innovative thing maybe is the look, which has existed somewhat on older, smaller trucks. The materials aren't new or proprietary either. They made an Ace a bit taller and more stretched out and changed the look a bit. Basically what Slappy sorta did, but they have a corny name and branding so people aren't as excited even tho they seem to be well loved.

What other trucks have the "anti-wheelbite" pivot cup shelf thing? I'm genuinely curious.

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Re: Oskis New Truck Brand
« Reply #1888 on: August 08, 2024, 10:39:34 AM »
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Nothing about these trucks is new or innovative. The "anti wheelbite tech" has existed on trucks in the past. The only innovative thing maybe is the look, which has existed somewhat on older, smaller trucks. The materials aren't new or proprietary either. They made an Ace a bit taller and more stretched out and changed the look a bit. Basically what Slappy sorta did, but they have a corny name and branding so people aren't as excited even tho they seem to be well loved.
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What other trucks have the "anti-wheelbite" pivot cup shelf thing? I'm genuinely curious.

Indy 109's have a similar pivot shelf. Never rode them, so not sure if they prevent wheelbite though...


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« Reply #1889 on: August 08, 2024, 10:52:58 AM »
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Nothing about these trucks is new or innovative. The "anti wheelbite tech" has existed on trucks in the past. The only innovative thing maybe is the look, which has existed somewhat on older, smaller trucks. The materials aren't new or proprietary either. They made an Ace a bit taller and more stretched out and changed the look a bit. Basically what Slappy sorta did, but they have a corny name and branding so people aren't as excited even tho they seem to be well loved.
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What other trucks have the "anti-wheelbite" pivot cup shelf thing? I'm genuinely curious.
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Indy 109's have a similar pivot shelf. Never rode them, so not sure if they prevent wheelbite though...



Interesting. Though in this case it looks like the gap between the shelf and the baseplate is big enough that they would never contact.