Oskis New Truck Brand

[chaosisme]

I don’t think Oski is claiming to be doing something brand new, I’m sure he’d say he was inspired by the look of the Indy 109s, all trucks are inspired by whatever the first truck was in some way

Also, the 109s are 7” wide so it’s kind of redundant, he’s seen potential in a design and brought it up to date with width, materials and making them hollow

[CarcassToss]

the anti-wheel bite thing doesn't prevent it. My trucks don't have any noticeable marks from engagement and some wheelbite marks. I think the lack of wheelbite comes mostly from the truck's geometry and bushings. When I first got them I loosened the KP nut significantly to test this and you can get wheelbite standing still. It's just that since the wheels sit .2" further apart than an Ace and the trucks are taller there is way more of an arc before it bites. The lower bushing sits really far off from the deck (distance from deck to bushing bottom), so my guess is the geometry is such that it squeezes the bushings harder and harder the more it goes into the turn.

I agree though that there is kinda no real reason for the truck to exist other than aesthetics.

Ace- turn
Indy- its Indy
Thunder- height, turn, pinch
Venture- stability, heavy pop like indy, historically a 'street truck' competitor to indy

Slappy- people say they're really stable, high quality bushings, great grind, kind of made a more stable Indy already and from perusing the thread they're decently light and pinch well.
Royal- They've been around for 20 years and the new iteration seems to give people a Thunder/Venture clone with a better turn.

Lurpiv- I guess a more stable Ace? Weird look? That's it? No advantages over the others, so to me its sorta in there with Royal as "the market doesn't need it and it isn't offering something others don't, but it has a unique turn for its height and weight"

Anyways I don't wanna keep biasing this thread with my experience. I think they're still neat looking and turn great, but I don't want to drown out positive reviews as well.
But people aren't really limited by turn in this day and ace since it's damn easy to find tons of bushings to optimize that.

[tzhangdox]

Okay sorry to also blast this thread but I skated some concrete and marble ledges tonight (UN plaza sf) and going to go back to ventures lol.

Still prefer flatground, manuals, and riding around in general on these. But the kingpin is very catchy on concrete. Didn't notice it on the skatepark ledge I was skating last week. Definitely expected it but was hoping it wouldn't be that bad. Could grind it down but don't have the patience. Plus I hate when that happens and you lose the ground down side of the nut as soon as you adjust your truck.

The baseplate also doesn't slide super good. I'm not measuring it or anything... but it feels like it doesn't stick out as much as a venture or indy plate.

If you press down on your nose/tail slide the baseplate slides but as soon as your slide sags a bit the wheels make contact. On slides I don't have as good, sometimes I was getting in and sliding on baseplate, and sometimes I would lock in sliding on the wheels. Makes it feel a little unpredictable on imperfect ledges.

Sometimes I'd be feeling and hearing the baseplate slide and out of nowhere it would go quiet and I'd feel the wheels make contact... At least on thunders you're going to consistently feel your wheels slide. Maybe if you ran really big wheels on these it would also be the case, but not on my 52ish.

Kingpin and baseplate issues I didn't notice on a sharp, really icy skatepark ledge. But today I definitely noticed it.

Same complaint about pinch still. Getting used to it, but skated my friends ventures and it was immediately better.

If I skated more transition, flatground etc maybe I'd stay on these. Would rather skate these than aces for sure. If you're on aces or indys and don't mind the things I listed as much as I maybe do, totally worth a try.

Really cool truck, the stability and turn... plus how light they feel and skate despite the height are all really great. But grinds and slides are 90% of my skating and ventures just work better for that.

[OwlGreen]

Aside from axle height, doesn't tendency to wheelbite have to do with the angle between the center of the pivot cup and the axle? The closer you have to a completely vertical pivot, the less the axle and wheel move towards the board as they turn.

[Kaezan]

I got a pair of hollow Lurpivs 8.75 and had my first session on them today.

I usually skate Indy forged hollows, but have skated Thunder, Ventures, and Slappys in the past.

First thing I noticed right away: these trucks are very unique looking. They look really nice on board, IMO.

Second thing, this is the first I have EVER bought trucks and not had to tighten or change the bushings right away. Previous trucks were always super loose right out of the box, and I skate my trucks pretty tight (I'm 6'3' / 185 lbs, and I use the 99A bushings with Indies usually). These felt good right away. I was honestly shocked. I didn't have to tighten them at all. I actually also ordered a pair of hard bushings thinking I'd need to replace the stock ones, but doesn't seem like I will be needing to.

I haven't skated Aces, but out of all the other brands I mentioned, these guys turn the best by far. However, as I mentioned, I ride my trucks pretty tight, so maybe others won't feel the same.

The thing with these trucks that I loved is that even though they have a very tight turn, they still feel super stable to me when my weight is in the middle of the board. I'm not swerving or fighting to keep my balance. I remember when I tried the Slappys with stock bushings, that shit was so loose I could barely ride the board (I actually had to put them away until I got new bushings). The Lurpivs were both stable and also very turny, which I have never experienced before.

This is the first time I have bought a pair of trucks and actually been impressed by how they ride right away. Usually I am really excited to try new trucks, and feel disappointed in the first session. This time it's the complete opposite. I expected them to disappoint, but they were great right away. Hopefully I keep enjoying them.

I skated them for a couple of hours on a new 8.9 Heroin egg board in my garage doing flatground and working on stalls on my quarter pipe, and right now I am loving it. I am taking them to the park this weekend.

[Xen]

I agree though that there is kinda no real reason for the truck to exist other than aesthetics.

They bring what no one else does:

Built in washers!!!!!

[Roisto]

I took mine off after three sessions.

I really liked the stability in the center but still being able to turn really well. The anti-wheelbite tech, as already mentioned, doesn't seem to be the square pivot stem touching the baseplate but a combo of the bushings and geometry. Definitely much harder to wheelbite than Aces. I ate it a couple of times in a bowl trying to quickly turn frontside as tight as I can with Aces and just couldn't because it takes a lot more effort to turn these that deep compared to Aces. Nothing wrong with the trucks though but this made me think if for me the benefits outweigh the drawbacks and I came to the conclusion that they don't.

The only benefit for me over Aces was the stability in the center. I couldn't really figure out a better pop with these with the greater stability. I'm probably too used to Aces with 1/8" washers. I came to the conclusion that I just have to jump higher to get better pop! 

Also the kingpin clearance is not good. I only did frontside slappies with these and both of my kingpin nuts have clear marks on them. I thought Ace kingpin clearance was bad but these are like quite a worn down Ace out of the box. Not good.

Went back to Ace AF1s with 1/8" risers and felt like home right away. Might try the Ace hard bushings soon to see if I can get some more stability without sacrificing the turn with those.

[BartHarleyJarvis]

Me when all these lurpivs start showing up in the classifieds section

[BeachChicken]

Care about swerving but not about the actual quality of your skating? Fuck a longboard, get these trucks that perform like they were designed during the launch ramp era. Designed on a screen with green font and a floppy drive!

[CarcassToss]

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I agree though that there is kinda no real reason for the truck to exist other than aesthetics.

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They bring what no one else does:

Built in washers!!!!!

You wouldn't believe this but the axles are one piece all the way through.

Kinda feel bad for Oski since V1 went up in flames and V2 at least stays in one piece, but they're getting not amazing endorsements across the board unless all you care about is the turn. Given Ace and Indy exist I can't see why people would wanna switch since they don't inherently do anything else better. Slappy seems to have a stronger value prop and following too. Guess that's next on my list to try if I can manage to remove the name from the baseplate (yes I know it's dumb).

[tzhangdox]

One of my homies who's been on these and was previously skating aces likes them a lot, prefers them over aces.

Stability on center with deep turn, lightweight, good feeling pop and grind, and looks are all reasons one could consider these over indy/ace

[Kaezan]

One of my homies who's been on these and was previously skating aces likes them a lot, prefers them over aces.

Stability on center with deep turn, lightweight, good feeling pop and grind, and looks are all reasons one could consider these over indy/ace

I haven't skated Ace, but this is why I've been impressed with mine. With Indys, I have to change the bushings to harder ones right away, and then also tighten them a bit so I can feel stable. With the Lurpiv set I got, I feel stable on the board even without tightening the trucks at all right out of the box. And since I don't have to tight them or change to hard bushings, I still keep a really tight turn which I have always had to sacrifice since I like my trucks really tight.

It's a very different feeling than any truck I have ridden before. I think if the person usually rides pretty tight trucks, but wants to also have a really good turn, these are a really good option. For people who like loose trucks, I can see why they might not like these.

Also, I can attest that I have been getting a lot less wheel bite on these than I did with my Indys. It's not "wheel-bite proof", but the geometry does help quite a bit. I'm making way tighter turns than on Indys, and not getting wheel bite at unless I am jumping/ollying something and landing on my heels. On my Indys, I would have had to have my trucks super loose to get these types of turns (while sacrificing stability quite a bit of stability), and I'd definitely be getting wheel bite as well

[Diamond_Dallas_Pudge]

One of my homies who's been on these and was previously skating aces likes them a lot, prefers them over aces.

Stability on center with deep turn, lightweight, good feeling pop and grind, and looks are all reasons one could consider these over indy/ace

These are my exact thoughts. Also 20 something people have stopped to ask about my lurpivs + try them so at least they are a converstation starter. Something I haven't seen with the few people who skate Slappys at the park.

People are getting way to hung up about the anti wheelbite stuff.
Ofcourse you will still get wheelbite especially if you shift all your weight down like crazy in the center. You will wheelbite noticably less though if you skate them like normal and that's coming from a fat guy who was on Aces a few weeks ago.

But I agree they aren't for everybody you don't need to skate them. Ventures are still right there waiting for you guys.

[CarcassToss]

One of my homies who's been on these and was previously skating aces likes them a lot, prefers them over aces.

Stability on center with deep turn, lightweight, good feeling pop and grind, and looks are all reasons one could consider these over indy/ace

What use is the good grind if the pinch and kingpin clearance are a bummer? I felt Ace had better clearance and same grind. Turn is great, looks if that's your thing, but that's really it.

[CarcassToss]

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One of my homies who's been on these and was previously skating aces likes them a lot, prefers them over aces.

Stability on center with deep turn, lightweight, good feeling pop and grind, and looks are all reasons one could consider these over indy/ace

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I haven't skated Ace, but this is why I've been impressed with mine. With Indys, I have to change the bushings to harder ones right away, and then also tighten them a bit so I can feel stable. With the Lurpiv set I got, I feel stable on the board even without tightening the trucks at all right out of the box. And since I don't have to tight them or change to hard bushings, I still keep a really tight turn which I have always had to sacrifice since I like my trucks really tight.

It's a very different feeling than any truck I have ridden before. I think if the person usually rides pretty tight trucks, but wants to also have a really good turn, these are a really good option. For people who like loose trucks, I can see why they might not like these.

Also, I can attest that I have been getting a lot less wheel bite on these than I did with my Indys. It's not "wheel-bite proof", but the geometry does help quite a bit. I'm making way tighter turns than on Indys, and not getting wheel bite at unless I am jumping/ollying something and landing on my heels. On my Indys, I would have had to have my trucks super loose to get these types of turns (while sacrificing stability quite a bit of stability), and I'd definitely be getting wheel bite as well

I skate a lot of fairly tight transition and manage on stock Ventures and was fine on Indy with the Blues or blacks sometimes. Both limit how deep in the wheel bite zone you get. Stability on center is different, and I guess if you don't crooked grind or care about clearance it's fine but as someone who loves doing both and smiths on transition it's much easier to get used to leaning on a new bushing setup than having a kingpin catch. I find it amazingly hard to believe that so many Slappers are just inhibited by "lack of turn"

[tzhangdox]

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One of my homies who's been on these and was previously skating aces likes them a lot, prefers them over aces.

Stability on center with deep turn, lightweight, good feeling pop and grind, and looks are all reasons one could consider these over indy/ace

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What use is the good grind if the pinch and kingpin clearance are a bummer? I felt Ace had better clearance and same grind. Turn is great, looks if that's your thing, but that's really it.

Well a couple people I know, and myself, all agree that they're more stable than aces and indys on center so thats one thing.

Pinch and clearance is a bummer, dealbreakers for me. But the pinch seems to be pretty similar to the ace pinch so if you're used to that, its not so different.

I also get the same kingpin snag on aces. If you're willing to deal with it and grind the nut down on these, its manageable. Not night and day difference on lurpivs vs aces like lurpivs vs ventures

Also not everyone does smiths and long crooked grinds

I think if you're coming to these without expecting venture/thunder style pinch and lots of kingpin clearance, they're a great option

[BeachChicken]

@carcasstoss you gotta chill a bit dude. It's one thing to be helpful and another to kinda take it a step too far. I don't find turn limiting on any truck and can't imagine people who think these unlock something for them, but at the end of the day everyone's review and feelings about gear is highly individual. I have friends who ride rock solid Indy's but complain that "Ventures don't turn" and have never ridden the highs. It's their own fault they're potentially missing out but I don't care.

I gave my hollows to a friend to try who came from Ace and he liked, but didn't love em and is super stubborn. He gave them back to me and I gave them to a friend who has ridden about everything and liked it (including Krux) and he put 3 sessions in and proclaimed them his least favorite trucks of all time. At the same time you have people like Zack Dowdy praising them endlessly (but not disclosing he's friends with Oski or that he doesn't skate ledges/can't crooked grind) and while I don't feel the same people are gunna have to try them for themselves and figure out if they like them or not.

[Kaezan]

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One of my homies who's been on these and was previously skating aces likes them a lot, prefers them over aces.

Stability on center with deep turn, lightweight, good feeling pop and grind, and looks are all reasons one could consider these over indy/ace

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I haven't skated Ace, but this is why I've been impressed with mine. With Indys, I have to change the bushings to harder ones right away, and then also tighten them a bit so I can feel stable. With the Lurpiv set I got, I feel stable on the board even without tightening the trucks at all right out of the box. And since I don't have to tight them or change to hard bushings, I still keep a really tight turn which I have always had to sacrifice since I like my trucks really tight.

It's a very different feeling than any truck I have ridden before. I think if the person usually rides pretty tight trucks, but wants to also have a really good turn, these are a really good option. For people who like loose trucks, I can see why they might not like these.

Also, I can attest that I have been getting a lot less wheel bite on these than I did with my Indys. It's not "wheel-bite proof", but the geometry does help quite a bit. I'm making way tighter turns than on Indys, and not getting wheel bite at unless I am jumping/ollying something and landing on my heels. On my Indys, I would have had to have my trucks super loose to get these types of turns (while sacrificing stability quite a bit of stability), and I'd definitely be getting wheel bite as well

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I skate a lot of fairly tight transition and manage on stock Ventures and was fine on Indy with the Blues or blacks sometimes. Both limit how deep in the wheel bite zone you get. Stability on center is different, and I guess if you don't crooked grind or care about clearance it's fine but as someone who loves doing both and smiths on transition it's much easier to get used to leaning on a new bushing setup than having a kingpin catch. I find it amazingly hard to believe that so many Slappers are just inhibited by "lack of turn"

You're missing my point of the turning comment. I have never been one to care for turning since I always had to sacrifice turn for what I feel like is good stability due to my height and weight. I basically had accepted that I wouldn't get good turn due to how I liked my trucks and bushings.

With these, I get to enjoy stability and good turning, which is a new thing for me. That's why I like them. The kingpin clearance isn't a deal breaker for me, but I agree it could be better.

Not saying these trucks are the best out there or anything, or that I will never go back to my Indys or other brands, but I like them a lot so far and I am having a lot of fun on them.

EDIT: also wanted to re-iterate that for ME, this was the only time I have never had to change the bushings or tighten the trucks significantly right after buying a new pair. They were perfect for me right out of the box, which has never happened before. No tightening at all. I had even bought bushings ahead of time expecting to need to change them since I always end up having to on new trucks, but these were great out of the box.

[Dwyck]

At the same time you have people like Zack Dowdy praising them endlessly (but not disclosing he's friends with Oski or that he doesn't skate ledges/can't crooked grind) and while I don't feel the same people are gunna have to try them for themselves and figure out if they like them or not.

I don't think a guy who exclusively rides skatepark transistion liking a turny truck he got for free is unexpected or requires some kind of disclosure. Zack Dowdy is no media institution

[BeachChicken]

I don't know why he even does reviews he universally likes everything and doesn't seem too discerning. The content is pretty mundane and doesn't really do anything to add value. I can respect other YouTubers that least put some effort into that type of thing.

[rikki]

Zack Dowdy is the perfect marketing medium to convince mediocre, well-off adult skaters that they need new stuff.

[Ok]

last three of you very on point. like dowdy, i have nothing to ad(d)

[Carter]

I have a set of the hollows

I’m 34 and have knee and wrist problems so I doubt go to hard anymore so here is a review from the average skater.

The turn is fucking awesome. I was skating ace af1’s and loved them but these trucks make cruising the park and carving super fun.

Crooks… I have no problem they actually feel great unlike other reviews.

They are deffinitly higher than ace which was hard to get used to but whatever who cares

I can not scoop a 350 flip anymore unless it’s fakie. Idk like I said average skater don’t got all that shit on lock.

Will say re learned frontside noseblunt stalls yesterday at the park which felt amazing.

Crete coping they won’t want to grind until they are worn down a bit.. I love them. I appreciate the turn the look and the feel.

[nollieboulala]

I’m on month 3 on the 150s. Like em so much I bought another set of 160s for my 2nd bigger setup. Been on Indy hollows last few w years before these and I would say it feels very similar to Indy but with less cringe branding lol.

[BeachChicken]

Zack Dowdy is the perfect marketing medium to convince mediocre, well-off adult skaters that they need new stuff.

I fall into this group and honestly his reviews do the opposite for me.

[BeachChicken]

I’m on month 3 on the 150s. Like em so much I bought another set of 160s for my 2nd bigger setup. Been on Indy hollows last few w years before these and I would say it feels very similar to Indy but with less cringe branding lol.

I went back to Indy hollows from Lurpiv and they don't feel alike at all. I tried Lurpivs with my radials to see if the pinch sucked less and it did slightly, but I've never had an issue with pinch on Indys and still don't regardless of wheel. The Indys have a lighter pop feel to them by a noticeable amount. Lurpiv to me have the pop feel of Thunder with risers, pinch of an Ace Classic, grind of an AF1, baseplate slide a bit like a Thunder if you don't lock in right. Turn is unreal, I will never argue that.

In a comical turn of events my old set of Lurpivs are on their 4th owner.

[DERBY]

zack dowdy don’t know what he’s talking about most of the time. dont get me wrong zack seems chill

on the topic of youtubers that fool julian cummings comes off as a fucking kook

[BeachChicken]

not gunna lie I'm jealous AF of his cement mini ramp. That backyard def seems like it hosts a lot of weird swinger parties that serve White Claw knockoffs.

[Dawatermelongoblin]

So far I’m loving these. The pop feel and stability I get while not sacrificing the turn feels great. I see a lot of people hating on the pinch, but I’ve personally had no issues. Only concern I’m having is the rattling from the bushings breaking in. Anyone know if these are the same size as Indy bushings? Might swap for the 90a mediums but am curious if that will take away from the stability and feel of the trucks or if that’s gonna be more based on the geometry.

[BeachChicken]

if you go back pages you'll see that I posted caliper pics of the bushings. They are not the same size as Indy. Maybe Ace classic, af1, or low bushings will fit?

If you like the turn why fuck with it? It's the selling point of the trucks.