New Ace AF1 *Low* announced

[logjammin]

I'm pretty sure AF1's are poured at the same factory as Paris longboard trucks. They're owned by Joey Pulsifer who is tight with Joey and Shrewgy. If you look on Paris' website their trucks, especially their "street trucks" have the same looking alloy and bushings/washers. He was also one of the first "pilots" to have the AF1's when they were testing them out on his IG posts and whatnot. I think he turned them onto the "proprietary" formula and they went with it.

[goodatmeth]

It’s a different factory I think…my classic 55’s are bulkier….finishing is way different….these are like a couple years old, so I don’t know if it’s a fair comparison.

Oh sorry, I somehow ignored the word "classics". Yeah AF1 are definitely different than classics.. But AF1 hangers are all the same

[Xen]

I'm pretty sure AF1's are poured at the same factory as Paris longboard trucks. They're owned by Joey Pulsifer who is tight with Joey and Shrewgy. If you look on Paris' website their trucks, especially their "street trucks" have the same looking alloy and bushings/washers. He was also one of the first "pilots" to have the AF1's when they were testing them out on his IG posts and whatnot. I think he turned them onto the "proprietary" formula and they went with it.

That's probably a sure bet, looking at some Paris trucks (longboard trucks, not their street offerings which look more pitted) the finish is right on:

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I'm pretty sure AF1's are poured at the same factory as Paris longboard trucks. They're owned by Joey Pulsifer who is tight with Joey and Shrewgy. If you look on Paris' website their trucks, especially their "street trucks" have the same looking alloy and bushings/washers. He was also one of the first "pilots" to have the AF1's when they were testing them out on his IG posts and whatnot. I think he turned them onto the "proprietary" formula and they went with it.

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That's probably a sure bet, looking at some Paris trucks (longboard trucks, not their street offerings which look more pitted) the finish is right on:

Good call! I remember someone name checking Pulsifer as being a person that was in the know on quality truck manufacturing process, in relation to Ace. Didn’t know he was involved with Paris tho.

As to the above person mentioning dm’ing ace and getting confirmation: them ace boys kinda cooked. I feel like they just say stuff. Kinda like I’m doing rn. Difference being I’m some internet kook and they are company owners. I remember some comment where it was maybe Joey? Made it sound like the classic and af-1 had the same geometry. Nah. Shit my ace 55 classics seem like a different geo than my ace 44 classics were. Basing that off of me not being able to put a truck tool on the 55 kingpin nut due to the proximity of the hanger to the kingpin, the feeling that the bushings have always been significantly tighter on the 55s, and feeling that I have a much better ollie/flip tricks on the 55s, despite them being way outside my comfort zone size wise.
Anyways, carry on

[logjammin]

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I'm pretty sure AF1's are poured at the same factory as Paris longboard trucks. They're owned by Joey Pulsifer who is tight with Joey and Shrewgy. If you look on Paris' website their trucks, especially their "street trucks" have the same looking alloy and bushings/washers. He was also one of the first "pilots" to have the AF1's when they were testing them out on his IG posts and whatnot. I think he turned them onto the "proprietary" formula and they went with it.

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That's probably a sure bet, looking at some Paris trucks (longboard trucks, not their street offerings which look more pitted) the finish is right on:

Yep, even the goldish kingpins look identical.

[j....soy.....]

If they announce inverted kingpins……we should be worried…..

[Frank and Fred]

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I'm pretty sure AF1's are poured at the same factory as Paris longboard trucks. They're owned by Joey Pulsifer who is tight with Joey and Shrewgy. If you look on Paris' website their trucks, especially their "street trucks" have the same looking alloy and bushings/washers. He was also one of the first "pilots" to have the AF1's when they were testing them out on his IG posts and whatnot. I think he turned them onto the "proprietary" formula and they went with it.

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That's probably a sure bet, looking at some Paris trucks (longboard trucks, not their street offerings which look more pitted) the finish is right on:

This is correct.

[bbk]

They have great kingpin clearance by the way, which is crazy for a 49 mm truck.
Even better than the regular af1.

[goodatmeth]

They have great kingpin clearance by the way, which is crazy for a 49 mm truck.
Even better than the regular af1.

I think it only looks better because they come with some thread showing instead of the nut sitting flush.
But it's definitely not worse than on the standards, loving it.

[Xen]

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They have great kingpin clearance by the way, which is crazy for a 49 mm truck.
Even better than the regular af1.

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I think it only looks better because they come with some thread showing instead of the nut sitting flush.
But it's definitely not worse than on the standards, loving it.

It's crazy how much clearance they have.

But yeah, almost a full two threads showing as stock and most are going to want to crank them bad boys down out of the box. Mine are still not showing any signs of firming up, quite the opposite.

[bbk]

I put them side by side, baseplate up. The lows had more lean the the regulars.

[Xen]

I put them side by side, baseplate up. The lows had more lean the the regulars.

In, out, left, right?

The yoke looks like it pitches down towards the fat part of the baseplate (where the kingpin is), is that what you mean?

[j....soy.....]

They torque so far inward that it seems like they’d be less inclined to wheelbite……

I’m not counting on it though…..

Fun truck…it’s a bit weird feeling like you are always engaged in a turn but I don’t think they held me back.  I’m interested to try to do a bunch of manuals….

Coming off ventures….these grind wayyyyy better….

[manysnakes]

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I'm pretty sure AF1's are poured at the same factory as Paris longboard trucks. They're owned by Joey Pulsifer who is tight with Joey and Shrewgy. If you look on Paris' website their trucks, especially their "street trucks" have the same looking alloy and bushings/washers. He was also one of the first "pilots" to have the AF1's when they were testing them out on his IG posts and whatnot. I think he turned them onto the "proprietary" formula and they went with it.

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That's probably a sure bet, looking at some Paris trucks (longboard trucks, not their street offerings which look more pitted) the finish is right on:

This got me looking at the Paris website, where I see that Paris sells the same skate tool as Ace (for $8 less).

[Xen]

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I'm pretty sure AF1's are poured at the same factory as Paris longboard trucks. They're owned by Joey Pulsifer who is tight with Joey and Shrewgy. If you look on Paris' website their trucks, especially their "street trucks" have the same looking alloy and bushings/washers. He was also one of the first "pilots" to have the AF1's when they were testing them out on his IG posts and whatnot. I think he turned them onto the "proprietary" formula and they went with it.

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That's probably a sure bet, looking at some Paris trucks (longboard trucks, not their street offerings which look more pitted) the finish is right on:

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This got me looking at the Paris website, where I see that Paris sells the same skate tool as Ace (for $8 less).

Same kit for sure, but $8 more and you get kingpin and axle re-threaders built in with that ACE tool.

[j....soy.....]

I set mine up with some orangatangs……

[TheLowerBack]

I set mine up with some orangatangs……

O-Tangs lay the most sugary 'thane

[goodatmeth]

As to the above person mentioning dm’ing ace and getting confirmation: them ace boys kinda cooked. I feel like they just say stuff.

Their answer: AF1 hangers are AF1 hangers - low baseplate for the option.

[eSK3]

I’m super stoked on my set after about six hours still clicking but that’s my only complaint. I like them to the point I may order another set to have as a back up…

[In A Jar]

Still clicking for me too.  Also one of the brand new bolts fell off twice in a session making me have to chase my wheel around the park. Had to put it on backwards for it to stay on. 

[LebowskisRug]

What’s worse pouring trucks in China/not Ermico or at a longboard factory?

[manysnakes]

I don't know about the AF1s, because I haven't skated them, but with my old Ace, when they started clicking, I took them apart and rubbed some wax against the place where the cup for the bushing met with the baseplate, and that would resolve it until the wax wore away after a few months.

[bryan]

So far so good, stock setup I had clicking both tight or loose but it doesn't bother me.

I'm a husky guy so I was wheelbiting on hard turns or leaned front truck turns, normal turns were ok on stock bushings + 51mm wheels. Due to physics, more of an issue on my 55 low + loveseat, less of an issue on 44 low + 8.25. Still less wheelbite than on thunder 147 (which are lower than 148+), but way better turning than thunder + venture low stock or modified.

Unpopular opinion = Not a fan of the mushy bottom bushing.

Recently replaced the bottom bushing + washer with a bones hard bushing, no more clicking, no more wheelbite. Still turns well due to soft top bushing. Normal people who get too much bite may want to go medium bottom + soft top.

YMMV

[Xen]

What’s worse pouring trucks in China/not Ermico or at a longboard factory?

Who cares.

[j....soy.....]

Yah to me these feel like Aces answer to thunders…and I think it’s a pretty good job....the clicking is a bit there but that’s not grossly different than a lot of new trucks.  Honestly most stock set ups I’m not that psyched on….it’s likely me.

They do the quick nollie pop like a thunder, they twitch like a thunder but you can carve a complete circle in a parking stall like an ace….

The one thing that weirds me out is they make your nose/tail so much longer….I like that in a nose…not sure how I feel about it on the tail. 

I question if I can hang with them because you’re never passively rolling…..maybe I’ll get used to it.

These trucks I think are more or less engineered for Spanky……that’s how I see it.

Re factory? I guarantee if Lurpiv went to these guys they wouldn’t be where they are…….

[manysnakes]

Re factory? I guarantee if Lurpiv went to these guys they wouldn’t be where they are…….

All this anti-Sino sentiment is so baffling, like 75% of the things you use every day and which work perfectly are not also made in China. Like people in China aren't capable of performing the basic task of pouring the metal for a truck, and if they failed all the time, that a company like Independent wouldn't just find another casting company. I can remember the same thing about Japanese products, and now we regard Japanese products with the same reverence we do for German - it's shorthand for expertly made.

[j....soy.....]

Thanks boomer…..

[Xen]

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Re factory? I guarantee if Lurpiv went to these guys they wouldn’t be where they are…….

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All this anti-Sino sentiment is so baffling, like 75% of the things you use every day and which would perfectly are not also made in China. Like people in China aren't capable of performing the basic task of pouring the metal for a truck, and if they failed all the time, that a company like Independent wouldn't just find another casting company. I can remember the same thing about Japanese products, and now we regard Japanese products with the same reverence we do for German - it's shorthand for expertly made.

It's irritating...someone has to bring up China-made all the time (in this case someone who rides/prefers Indy/Mindys...)

[j....soy.....]

Try being Chinese…..

[Xen]

I’m always curious about the made in China folks…would they date someone from China?