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New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« on: December 28, 2021, 10:37:07 PM »
  • 49mm height (4mm lower that Standard AF1)
  • Hollow kingpins standard on all AF1 lows (why don't they have these stock on AF1 standards?)
  • 362 grams (32 grams lighter that standard AF1 (how much of that is the hollow kingpin?))
  • New cross-beam pinch baseplate design (similar to the Indy pinch)
  • Lowered baseplate for more size options across the range (which I think means both the baseplate and hangar is lower, whereas Indy and Venture use the same baseplates with different height hangars for their Mids/Lows)
  • 5 sizes: 22, 33, 44, 55, 60 (not 66)
  • Respective axle widths: 7.75", 8.0", 8.25", 8.5", 8.75"
  • Same Ace embossing on the bottom of the baseplate, with "Low" text
  • Includes the axle rethreader die
  • Kingpin clearance looks good, looks flush with the axle.
  • Bottom bushing looks very short
  • Looks like there might be a hole in the baseplate to poke out the pivot cup, but it's hard to tell. This is user-friendly design that Tracker used to have on their trucks, so let's hope they borrowed that idea



« Last Edit: December 29, 2021, 02:33:19 AM by 256 Ply »

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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2021, 11:17:17 PM »
Bizarre.

Why the pinch in the plate?
Why hollow pins for lows and not standards?
Why an 8.75Ē on a low and not a standard? When many wanted just that? Iím all for it though.
How does a lowered plate make for a range of more sizes?

Hard to see the grind clearance but the old lows were terrible in that regard.

Iíll pickup a set of 44s, I was a fan of the 03s but this as brand messaging is just weirdÖ
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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2021, 11:20:23 PM »
damn i know i shouldnt but the idea of a low 8.75 truck is calling for my wallet
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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2021, 11:44:06 PM »
Would have preferred a classic hollow. Oh well, from the look of things ace is gonna be pushing the AF1 design. Iíd expect an ace af1 hollow before a classic.

Also who the hell wants a 49 mm tall truckÖ

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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2021, 11:51:17 PM »
Ridiculous, 49mm is for kids. Ace, release the standard Af1 hollows in 8.75.

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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2021, 12:06:53 AM »
I've avoid Ace for the longest time because I've ridden trucks that extend WB (Thunder, Venture) but at 49mm tall on the 44 I could come around to the brand. Mini Logo were decidedly mediocre, hopefully the hunt for a low truck for 8" and wider decks stops here, or until Venture decides to release a LOW models for 5.6 and above.

If the current AF1 pricing is any indication the new ones will be in the $65 range, a bit rich for my blood.
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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2021, 01:02:02 AM »
Ridiculous, 49mm is for kids. Ace, release the standard Af1 hollows in 8.75.

Exactly! I donít have any need for a low truck (that I know of at least) but an 8.75Ē AF1 Iíd buy immediately.

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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2021, 01:45:48 AM »
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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2021, 01:48:33 AM »
Bizarre.

Why the pinch in the plate?
Why hollow pins for lows and not standards?
Why an 8.75Ē on a low and not a standard? When many wanted just that? Iím all for it though.
How does a lowered plate make for a range of more sizes?

Hard to see the grind clearance but the old lows were terrible in that regard.

Iíll pickup a set of 44s, I was a fan of the 03s but this as brand messaging is just weirdÖ

If you swap a low baseplate for a reg hanger you get a mid = more sizes
take what small comfort there may be left
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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2021, 05:25:24 AM »
Would have preferred a classic hollow. Oh well, from the look of things ace is gonna be pushing the AF1 design. Iíd expect an ace af1 hollow before a classic.

Also who the hell wants a 49 mm tall truckÖ
Plenty of my friends who are close to their 50ís and still want to skate street and flip their boards :D 
Setups I see mostly are 8Ē or below with low trucks and around 50mm wheels so maybe Iím just stuck in the past  ;)
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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2021, 07:09:35 AM »
Damn, just got a set of thunders but now i ĒneedĒ these  :D

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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2021, 07:11:36 AM »
What a weird choice for Ace. Same height as Venture Lo and with that height people arenít looking for a deep Ace carve. According to the few locals Iíve asked they havenít had anyone ask for a Lo in years except people buying miniís/kids decks so maybe thatís a market. Do people like Loís for slappies?

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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2021, 07:19:00 AM »
I love lo trucks.
Iím also closer to 50.
These look nice.

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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2021, 07:22:23 AM »
I guess ace thinks they can eat into the venture market after taking a chunk out of the indy fan base the last few years.

They look fun, but Iím not a low truck guy

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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2021, 07:43:42 AM »
What a weird choice for Ace. Same height as Venture Lo and with that height people arenít looking for a deep Ace carve. According to the few locals Iíve asked they havenít had anyone ask for a Lo in years except people buying miniís/kids decks so maybe thatís a market. Do people like Loís for slappies?

I've always wondered the same thing - who skates the Ace Lows? Everyone and their mother in my city skates Ace, but I've never once seen a low Ace in the wild, or even on the shelf of a shop. How can they possibly justify releasing an AF-1 Low before an AF-1 Hollow?
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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2021, 07:46:45 AM »
What a weird choice for Ace. Same height as Venture Lo and with that height people arenít looking for a deep Ace carve. According to the few locals Iíve asked they havenít had anyone ask for a Lo in years except people buying miniís/kids decks so maybe thatís a market. Do people like Loís for slappies?

I like Lows for my kids setups, so I use Mini Logo, which are significantly lighter than these Ace.  It does look like the kingpin clearance is better on the Ace - but I'll still go cheaper/lighter for my 8 year old.   

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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2021, 08:31:12 AM »
Why are people assuming the 8.75" won't come in the standard height also?

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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2021, 09:08:54 AM »
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What a weird choice for Ace. Same height as Venture Lo and with that height people arenít looking for a deep Ace carve. According to the few locals Iíve asked they havenít had anyone ask for a Lo in years except people buying miniís/kids decks so maybe thatís a market. Do people like Loís for slappies?
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I've always wondered the same thing - who skates the Ace Lows? Everyone and their mother in my city skates Ace, but I've never once seen a low Ace in the wild, or even on the shelf of a shop. How can they possibly justify releasing an AF-1 Low before an AF-1 Hollow?

Fletch (owner of DOA) has definitely sung the praises of Ace lows. And he used to be a long time Venture guy. Ngl, kinda intrigued by these, I'm a fan of wide/low setups when I'm in low-pop mode, especially if I'm just fucking around on manny pads or non-slappy curbs, which is often. I always wanted to grab some lows but the max 8" width and shit clearance always kept me away, being able to throw some low (and light) 44's on an 8.3" with like 48-50mm wheels - and they still turn - sounds fun as hell to me...Do hope they've sorted the pivot cup shit.

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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2021, 09:25:47 AM »
My guess is they are trying to get that slappy demo locked before anyone else puts out a low truck that can turn correctly
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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2021, 09:36:21 AM »
Honestly I'd just be happy with an Ace classic in 8.75. Don't need low, hollow or even AF1. Just a bog standard 60 Classic.

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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2021, 09:59:31 AM »
Anybody else sees how deep the top bushing is sitting or do I see that wrong?
If it is anywhere near the thunder 147 pop feel, turns and has some kingpin clearance that would be great.

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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2021, 10:22:49 AM »
@256 Ply Where did you see this press release?

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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2021, 10:44:51 AM »
Anybody else sees how deep the top bushing is sitting or do I see that wrong?
If it is anywhere near the thunder 147 pop feel, turns and has some kingpin clearance that would be great.
just based off where the axles sit i doubt they pop like thunders despite the height difference
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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2021, 11:12:43 AM »
The 8.75" lows are going to be the most wheelbitingest trucks known to man. With that said I'm still considering getting them.

Also, the pivot cup hole on the board side of the base plate is a super good idea, especially because I seriously doubt that they've done anything to resolve their pivot cup issues

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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2021, 11:30:04 AM »
My guess is they are trying to get that slappy demo locked before anyone else puts out a low truck that can turn correctly

Is that a thing? I'm an old fart who skates curbs with a dozen other old farts. Nearly everyone is skating Indy or Ace, but no one has low trucks, or has ever even mentioned low trucks. I skate standard Indys and I've never once thought I would slappy better with a lower truck.
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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2021, 12:01:03 PM »
I see myself next summer skating the 60s with fat risers on a Dane or an egg. Because I'm an idiot
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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2021, 12:28:14 PM »
Ace coming in hot with another episode of "shit no one asked for". At this point I'm 100% convinced Joey is just on a Goodfellas style fuck you, pay me business plan.

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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2021, 03:02:51 PM »
The 8.75" lows are going to be the most wheelbitingest trucks known to man.
This. My af1 66 wheelbite real bad on 54mm ricta 92a clouds.

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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2021, 03:14:25 PM »
8.75 lows?
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Re: New Ace AF1 *Low* announced
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2021, 03:16:42 PM »
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My guess is they are trying to get that slappy demo locked before anyone else puts out a low truck that can turn correctly
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Is that a thing? I'm an old fart who skates curbs with a dozen other old farts. Nearly everyone is skating Indy or Ace, but no one has low trucks, or has ever even mentioned low trucks. I skate standard Indys and I've never once thought I would slappy better with a lower truck.

i learned frontside slappies on 49mm trucks (thunder 147 lights are around that height i think). the old royals are like 50mm and i can slappy those fine too. not sure if a lower trucks is better at all, but eh once you know how to do them anything works imo.

i'll probably grab the 44s when they come out. anyone have an idea on a release date?