The Griptape thread

[rikki]

Oh yeah, Pepper. How's Pepper in terms of grippyness? If it's grippier than Jessup but less grippy than Mob I'm sold.

[Samsquantch]

Oh yeah, Pepper. How's Pepper in terms of grippyness? If it's grippier than Jessup but less grippy than Mob I'm sold.

Then you'll be sold!

[Pbn_jake]

Oh yeah, Pepper. How's Pepper in terms of grippyness? If it's grippier than Jessup but less grippy than Mob I'm sold.

That’s about how I’d describe it. Maybe as grippy as MOB idk, haven’t bought that bullshit in years

[rikki]

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Oh yeah, Pepper. How's Pepper in terms of grippyness? If it's grippier than Jessup but less grippy than Mob I'm sold.

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Then you'll be sold!

 

[TwisT]

Oh yeah, Pepper. How's Pepper in terms of grippyness? If it's grippier than Jessup but less grippy than Mob I'm sold.

Then you want grizzly

[Xen]

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Oh yeah, Pepper. How's Pepper in terms of grippyness? If it's grippier than Jessup but less grippy than Mob I'm sold.

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Then you want grizzly

Either depending on what's available. Just nabbed 5 sheets of basic black grizzly to have on hand, works just fine.

[LebowskisRug]

I think I have posted this before, but I do a decent amount of woodworking and have a shit ton of types of sandpaper.

Mob seems to be perforated ~60 grit

Jessup looks to be standard 80 grit

Grizzly is 100-110 grit

With that said not all numbers are the same. Cheap sandpaper 60 grit is very different from better quality stuff.

Pepper seems to be 80 like Jessup, with perforations, but interestingly doesn't get shiny/flaky around the edges if you land on the top a lot.

Shake Junt Black Onyx looks identical to Pepper to me

My local shop uses Generator to make their grip and it looks identical to Black Onyx. There is a local company called Paradox that has grip that looks the same. By same I mean the color of the paper, how shiny it is, how the paper peels/glue feels, the appearance of the grit.

So, my hairbrained theory is is that these few brands and variants are one and the same.

[TwisT]

Never did the research, but I’m sure there’s a major Chinese supplier that does grip for a few majors and ton of minors.

I should hop on alibaba

[Xen]

Texturally Black Onyx and Pepper feel different tho.

Don't see the BO being worth the premium just because you're paying for all black Shitjunt.

Never did the research, but I’m sure there’s a major Chinese supplier that does grip for a few majors and ton of minors.

I should hop on alibaba

It works just like picking veneer quality or urethane characteristics:

Grit choice
Perforations/none
Adhesive
Sheet thickness
backing paper
graphics

Of course there are probably exclusives within the manus tho, like MOB or Jessup 'formulas' e.g., the contract states you can't sell this combo to anyone else, blah blah blah.

So far the only real shit tape I've used is whatever Primitive ships you...fucking no grip sliptape...good for like 1/2 a day, if that.

[LebowskisRug]

They looked and felt the same to me. Its texture stuck to paper so maybe it varies. I got the BO when it was temporarily discounted and the same cost as anything else on Skate Warehouse and got 5 sheets of that, 5 sheets of Pepper, and 5 sheets of Pepper Galaxy so I'm set for a long while.

Only grips I won't skate are Mob (too grippy, wrinkles easy, don't have a need) and Grizzly (the opposite it feels like its old and needs to be replaced immediately). Our local shop grip is actually great when it doesn't have their logo stenciled on.

I do know that Generator makes logo grip for tons of skateshops as well as generic "shop grip". I dunno why some shops opt for that over Jessup since it probably isn't different cost per length and its not a many maker/eater.

[Xen]

Old batches of grip suck (why I never touch MOB m-80n when I see it, that shit was put out to pasture ages ago).

Mob gets stiff AF...anyone remember that wave of messup? The edges would just melt away.

I've placed myself firmly in the under $6 camp I have to pay. $5.95 jessup/grizzz/mob/BM/whatever the fuck.

[Mbrimson88]

Never did the research, but I’m sure there’s a major Chinese supplier that does grip for a few majors and ton of minors.

I should hop on alibaba

I think the top grip tape manufacturers are actually in Taiwan, but they seem to be the best known, more than the countless other places that make a ton of generic grip for everyone else.


Not that a place of manufacture is important, but I think Mob and others are from Taiwan.  Then Grizzly or another bigger brand is China.

Is Jessup still made in USA as they so proudly state on their site?

Any which way it is not a big deal, but it was interesting to see the boxes that arrived with the different "Made in..." on them when I had a lot more options for grip in the shop.

[Xen]

^^ Mob is def Taiwan.

Have to trust that Jessup is telling the truth about where it's made.

[moonordie]

Looking for a grippier / longer-lasting alternative to basic Jessup. Mob is grippy, I know, but it's bordering on too grippy almost. Grip thumb is real with Mob plus the quality has been all over the place lately.

Something between normal Jessup and Mob would be great.

How would you guys compare e.g. Jessup Ultragrip vs. Mob?

Or are there other viable options?

I'd go for Ultra or Pepper

[rikki]

Thanks for the input, all. Pepper and Ultra it is.

FWIW, Shake Junt grip with their "spray" graphic costs like f*cking 15 euros per sheet here in Euroland. NEVER GONNA

[Xen]

Thanks for the input, all. Pepper and Ultra it is.

FWIW, Shake Junt grip with their "spray" graphic costs like f*cking 15 euros per sheet here in Euroland. NEVER GONNA

Yeah you pay top dollar for trash graphics AND for plain black…awesome scam….seriously $8+ for plain black onyx (lol marketing) when top tier grip is ~5-6$?

[LebowskisRug]

I dunno what it is online normally, but my shop sells all non shop grip for the same price (Mob, BO, Pepper, etc) unless you want something with graphics and shit.

[Lou Strux]

I dunno what it is online normally, but my shop sells all non shop grip for the same price (Mob, BO, Pepper, etc) unless you want something with graphics and shit.

Only tangentially related, but: I feel like people having to pay more for graphic grip is a fair & justifiable tax for running that goofy shit.
Mr. Opinion Man over here.

[LebowskisRug]

I 100% agree. There's a dude at the park always telling me he buys everything on sale and it's like "dude you wouldn't have to if you stopped buying $15 Shake Nunt grip and used the free shit the shop gave you".

But really, he goes through a deck every 2-3w, which means 18-26 decks a year and $270-$390 in that heinous grip.

[j....soy.....]

I’m worth it…..that’s all I’m going to say….

[moonordie]

Does ultra have holes? Can't remember since I tried just once.

[Xen]

Does ultra have holes? Can't remember since I tried just once.

Nope!

[MOE SYZLAK]

Jessup Ultra is my usual go to. I feel like the grip is similar to Black Magic but it doesn't get those weird lines Black Magic can have sometimes.
I tried a sheet of Pepper and it was crazy grippy I felt like i couldn't get my feet off the board for flip tricks.
Ive skated a few sheets of Miles as well, it felt kinda like mob but noticed it flakes off the edges pretty badly.

[DarkPools]

Did I read somewhere in this thread above that people believe Grizzly is grippier than Jessup? No way, is that true.

I know SJ gets hate because it's graphic grip, which I understand.  However, SJ has been the closest performance-wise to Mob for my preferences, so if it's ever close to Mob in $, I'm picking that over Jessup any day of the week. That said, I alway aimed for the more modest SJ grip designs when available and Mob was out

Kinda interested in Miles & Pepper, but if either of those are as close to how bad (I personally think It's bad) Jessup is for me, I think I'll stick to Mob

[LebowskisRug]

Did I read somewhere in this thread above that people believe Grizzly is grippier than Jessup? No way, is that true.

I know SJ gets hate because it's graphic grip, which I understand.  However, SJ has been the closest performance-wise to Mob for my preferences, so if it's ever close to Mob in $, I'm picking that over Jessup any day of the week. That said, I alway aimed for the more modest SJ grip designs when available and Mob was out

Kinda interested in Miles & Pepper, but if either of those are as close to how bad (I personally think It's bad) Jessup is for me, I think I'll stick to Mob

Nah Grizzly seems to be 100-120 grit, which is smoother. I don't like it it feels super slick after like 3 sessions.

Also crazy that people find Pepper too grippy. Maybe I'm not too sensitive but I really dislike Mob or Ultra for being too grippy but don't have an issue with Pepper.

I'm not sure why Jessup is bad for you- I dislike it because when I skate asphalt the edges get flaky and shiny, which bothers me and it seems to lose grip faster than Pepper. To me they start out pretty similar.

[DarkPools]

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Did I read somewhere in this thread above that people believe Grizzly is grippier than Jessup? No way, is that true.

I know SJ gets hate because it's graphic grip, which I understand.  However, SJ has been the closest performance-wise to Mob for my preferences, so if it's ever close to Mob in $, I'm picking that over Jessup any day of the week. That said, I alway aimed for the more modest SJ grip designs when available and Mob was out

Kinda interested in Miles & Pepper, but if either of those are as close to how bad (I personally think It's bad) Jessup is for me, I think I'll stick to Mob

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Nah Grizzly seems to be 100-120 grit, which is smoother. I don't like it it feels super slick after like 3 sessions.

Also crazy that people find Pepper too grippy. Maybe I'm not too sensitive but I really dislike Mob or Ultra for being too grippy but don't have an issue with Pepper.

I'm not sure why Jessup is bad for you- I dislike it because when I skate asphalt the edges get flaky and shiny, which bothers me and it seems to lose grip faster than Pepper. To me they start out pretty similar.

Perhaps I misunderstood/misread what was posted earlier from someone sharing a recommendation for Grizzly between two other brands   

I prefer the slightly more grippy over less grippy, so Mob wins that every time. Jessup has always felt slippery compared to Mob and didn't feel as reliable as Mob for when I needed the grip vs needing my foot to move (not needing the grip) so Jessuo is forever in my mind as the shittier grip before other brands popped up to contend with their own tech/gimmicks

[Xen]

^^ Jessup ultra then

[jimgrude]

Did I read somewhere in this thread above that people believe Grizzly is grippier than Jessup? No way, is that true.

I know SJ gets hate because it's graphic grip, which I understand.  However, SJ has been the closest performance-wise to Mob for my preferences, so if it's ever close to Mob in $, I'm picking that over Jessup any day of the week. That said, I alway aimed for the more modest SJ grip designs when available and Mob was out

Kinda interested in Miles & Pepper, but if either of those are as close to how bad (I personally think It's bad) Jessup is for me, I think I'll stick to Mob

Yeah, I saw that too. Grizzly is actually purposefully made to be less grippy. I believe Puds himself would tell you that it's intended to be the least grippy grip.

[rikki]

Regripped an old deck with Pepper -- feels pretty nice. Grippier than normal Jessup, but not overly grippy. Think I'm gonna go with this one for the time being.

[logjammin]

Did Mob change their shit? Always was a Mob hater and been on the Pepper wave lately but I needed to do an emergency regrip and my local only had Mob as an option for 10" wide grip. It's a lot thinner than I remember, doesn't feel super coarse and it actually went on extremely fast and cut like butter with zero bubbles. Complete opposite experience than the handful of times I tried it a long time ago.