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[TMX]

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I just picked up a pair of the Swift 1.5s love the fit nad look, but I have never hurt so bad after skating. Part of it might be the fact that I am almost 53 and just restarting the sport, I figured a cup sole would be helpful! My other shoe, a vulc, while feeling a 1/2 size to big, is a dream to skate in.

T

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The Swift is a good shoe, but it is a generally thinner cupsole, as far as cupsoles go. Those Swifts with a better insole swapped in would probably not hurt your feet and feel better to skate tbh

Other cupsoles exist that are more plush, supportive, and won't hurt your feet:

Es Accel OG/Accel, NB 1010/480/808, Emerica Mute/KSL 3, Asics Japan Pro/Vic NBD

Vans Skate Halfcab could also work because the Pillar is a similar design as it. Vulc sole, too

My other shoe is the Pillar

Thanks for the other recommendations
Trying to decide between some Accel/Accel Mids/Mutes/KSL G6
Right now

[roba]

if you didn’t like the swifts definitely don’t get any accel slim version, there’s basically no cushioning on those. the accel 95 is a very good shoe with a full midsole

[TMX]

if you didn’t like the swifts definitely don’t get any accel slim version, there’s basically no cushioning on those. the accel 95 is a very good shoe with a full midsole

Thanks

I am looking at insoles but it feels a bit wrong to spend more on insoles than I did on the shoes

T

[TMX]

Even with the crappy insole in my 1.5s, I am not wanting to give up on the brand.
Looking currenty at the Swift 2, Rogers, Accel Fit, or the 298.

How, puff/size do the Rogers and 298 compare?
Any one tried the Accel Fit?

Looks like most of these come with the STI Insole

I am still waiting to hear back from eS Customer service, I sent them a 2nd email via the contact form

T

[DarkPools]

Even with the crappy insole in my 1.5s, I am not wanting to give up on the brand.
Looking currenty at the Swift 2, Rogers, Accel Fit, or the 298.

How, puff/size do the Rogers and 298 compare?
Any one tried the Accel Fit?

Looks like most of these come with the STI Insole

I am still waiting to hear back from eS Customer service, I sent them a 2nd email via the contact form

T

Swift 2.0 fits and feels noticeably different from Swift 1.5. Toe box fits tighter/narrower so you may wanna go 0.5 to 1.0 size up if you try them. The insole/sole combo is much better: more plush and  cushioned feeling

TJ Rogers is a tank of a shoe. Puffy upper like Accel OG, but the sole is more firm and supportive. Much stiffer brand new, but feels excellent on foot. Like how enjoyers of the NB1010 feel about that shoe. You can feel the tech, but the forefoot seems like it will break in easy enough

Two Nine 8 is a mid-puffy cupsole. Upper feels surprisingly thinner & more flexible than it looks. It's a stiff cupsole, but the sole breaks in easily. This sole was used on the Evant (discontinued) that i skated in the past. The toebox on this one also fits pretty narrow for me like how the Swift 2.0 did.

The Accel Fit is a quality shoe. Fits better than the Swift 2.0, even though they use the same sole. Think of an Accel Slim meets Accel OG and you get a more trim/athletic version of the Accel. Can't wait to skate these!

All of the models I tried: Swift 2.0, Accel OG, Two98, Accel Fit, TJ Rogers - were all same size: 12.


To be honest,  many brands offer poor quality insoles, not just Es. NB, DC, Nike, and Adidas all have thin shitty ortholite insoles in many of their models: cup & vulc. With that, I personally enjoy shoes/brands that have the option to remove the insole. I like the option to swap in my own preferred insole: aftermarket or from other shoes I've tried

Not sure what your preference/needs out of shoes are for skating, but many Es shoe models are easy to swap in better insoles for comfort & support

[TMX]

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Even with the crappy insole in my 1.5s, I am not wanting to give up on the brand.
Looking currenty at the Swift 2, Rogers, Accel Fit, or the 298.

How, puff/size do the Rogers and 298 compare?
Any one tried the Accel Fit?

Looks like most of these come with the STI Insole

I am still waiting to hear back from eS Customer service, I sent them a 2nd email via the contact form

T

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Swift 2.0 fits and feels noticeably different from Swift 1.5. Toe box fits tighter/narrower so you may wanna go 0.5 to 1.0 size up if you try them. The insole/sole combo is much better: more plush and  cushioned feeling

TJ Rogers is a tank of a shoe. Puffy upper like Accel OG, but the sole is more firm and supportive. Much stiffer brand new, but feels excellent on foot. Like how enjoyers of the NB1010 feel about that shoe. You can feel the tech, but the forefoot seems like it will break in easy enough

Two Nine 8 is a mid-puffy cupsole. Upper feels surprisingly thinner & more flexible than it looks. It's a stiff cupsole, but the sole breaks in easily. This sole was used on the Evant (discontinued) that i skated in the past. The toebox on this one also fits pretty narrow for me like how the Swift 2.0 did.

The Accel Fit is a quality shoe. Fits better than the Swift 2.0, even though they use the same sole. Think of an Accel Slim meets Accel OG and you get a more trim/athletic version of the Accel. Can't wait to skate these!

All of the models I tried: Swift 2.0, Accel OG, Two98, Accel Fit, TJ Rogers - were all same size: 12.


To be honest,  many brands offer poor quality insoles, not just Es. NB, DC, Nike, and Adidas all have thin shitty ortholite insoles in many of their models: cup & vulc. With that, I personally enjoy shoes/brands that have the option to remove the insole. I like the option to swap in my own preferred insole: aftermarket or from other shoes I've tried

Not sure what your preference/needs out of shoes are for skating, but many Es shoe models are easy to swap in better insoles for comfort & support

At 52 I want a shoe that doesn’t make my feet feel like I suffer from neuropathy and doesn’t make my back feel like I have been dead lifting…I already do that with the dead lifting I do

I am new enough that I am not stressing board feel yet. I want to be a lot skate for a few hours and not regret it.

From your amazing post, seems like the Accel Fit might be my next shoe.

Thanks a lot for the details

T

[TMX]

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Even with the crappy insole in my 1.5s, I am not wanting to give up on the brand.
Looking currenty at the Swift 2, Rogers, Accel Fit, or the 298.

How, puff/size do the Rogers and 298 compare?
Any one tried the Accel Fit?

Looks like most of these come with the STI Insole

I am still waiting to hear back from eS Customer service, I sent them a 2nd email via the contact form

T

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Swift 2.0 fits and feels noticeably different from Swift 1.5. Toe box fits tighter/narrower so you may wanna go 0.5 to 1.0 size up if you try them. The insole/sole combo is much better: more plush and  cushioned feeling

TJ Rogers is a tank of a shoe. Puffy upper like Accel OG, but the sole is more firm and supportive. Much stiffer brand new, but feels excellent on foot. Like how enjoyers of the NB1010 feel about that shoe. You can feel the tech, but the forefoot seems like it will break in easy enough

Two Nine 8 is a mid-puffy cupsole. Upper feels surprisingly thinner & more flexible than it looks. It's a stiff cupsole, but the sole breaks in easily. This sole was used on the Evant (discontinued) that i skated in the past. The toebox on this one also fits pretty narrow for me like how the Swift 2.0 did.

The Accel Fit is a quality shoe. Fits better than the Swift 2.0, even though they use the same sole. Think of an Accel Slim meets Accel OG and you get a more trim/athletic version of the Accel. Can't wait to skate these!

All of the models I tried: Swift 2.0, Accel OG, Two98, Accel Fit, TJ Rogers - were all same size: 12.


To be honest,  many brands offer poor quality insoles, not just Es. NB, DC, Nike, and Adidas all have thin shitty ortholite insoles in many of their models: cup & vulc. With that, I personally enjoy shoes/brands that have the option to remove the insole. I like the option to swap in my own preferred insole: aftermarket or from other shoes I've tried

Not sure what your preference/needs out of shoes are for skating, but many Es shoe models are easy to swap in better insoles for comfort & support

I want to amend my earlier statement

The Accel Fit the Roger or 298, from the photos the 298 seems more slim, and that would win out over the Rogers

New guy problems

[TMX]

Sorry for spamming this thread

anyone got picks of the 298 and the TJ side by side in the same pic?

[DarkPools]

Sorry for spamming this thread

anyone got picks of the 298 and the TJ side by side in the same pic?

I sold my 298 or i would take the comparison photo for ya!

Happy to help with what I know about Es!

[TMX]

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Sorry for spamming this thread

anyone got picks of the 298 and the TJ side by side in the same pic?

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I sold my 298 or i would take the comparison photo for ya!

Happy to help with what I know about Es!

You have been so much help, I think I found a store that has the Rogers and 298 in stock, running up to Denver after work.

They do not have the Fit, but they have some of the other Accel's so I can at least get an idea of what the Fit looks like.
But I am pretty sure it will come down to the Roger or 298

T

[TMX]

Went with the All White 2 Nine 8
A little worried about sizing, I tried on the 8.5 in the shop, my usual size is 8, and it felt ok, but was 1/2 size long.
So I went with he 8, it might need to stretch a bit.

$45 shipped

Count it as a win.

The Rogers was amazing, wore a bit smaller than it looked. In the end, this trip, the cost difference won out

TMX

[TMX]

Arrived today

Should have went 8.5 these I think will break in, but it’s gonna take a minute

[propaganda]

anybody got a lead on all blue, all red, all orange, all yellow Accel og I think one color came out in 22, somebody got a be sitting on some size 11

Anybody take that survey? Kinda confusing prolly a bitch to analyze but I like that they trying

Just watched the firm can’t stop for the first time, shit felt like a es video

[Jim and Dan]

anybody got a lead on all blue, all red, all orange, all yellow Accel og I think one color came out in 22, somebody got a be sitting on some size 11

Anybody take that survey? Kinda confusing prolly a bitch to analyze but I like that they trying

Just watched the firm can’t stop for the first time, shit felt like a es video

Javi made the shoes look so good...

But then again, Javi makes everything look good...

I haven't popped on a pair of eS since probably '05, but if I can find a good deal...

Really wouldn't mind a pair of the TJs, but I don't know if they are even doing runs below a size 7...

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Am I the only one who misses the vulc era of ES, with Bobby worrest, manderson and Danny Garcia

[Chalupa]

Am I the only one who misses the vulc era of ES, with Bobby worrest, manderson and Danny Garcia

The First Bloods were my favorite shoes in 2011.

[DarkPools]

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Am I the only one who misses the vulc era of ES, with Bobby worrest, manderson and Danny Garcia

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The First Bloods were my favorite shoes in 2011.

Square Ones, First Bloods, Accel TT, Cassette low & mid all chef's kiss to wear/skate

[moonordie]

Am I the only one who misses the vulc era of ES, with Bobby worrest, manderson and Danny Garcia

Probably. Eldridge on eS was a downgrade.

[dumptruck12]

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Am I the only one who misses the vulc era of ES, with Bobby worrest, manderson and Danny Garcia

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The First Bloods were my favorite shoes in 2011.

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Square Ones, First Bloods, Accel TT, Cassette low & mid all chef's kiss to wear/skate

Yeah the square one and two were great

[DarkPools]

Also, the Theory 1.5 - excellent mid top vulc from around that time

[DCLOVE]

Am I the only one who misses the vulc era of ES, with Bobby worrest, manderson and Danny Garcia

No, I’ve been spamming don brown and Kelly hart for a square one remake for like a decade this point. I miss vulc es

[TwisT]

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Am I the only one who misses the vulc era of ES, with Bobby worrest, manderson and Danny Garcia

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No, I’ve been spamming don brown and Kelly hart for a square one remake for like a decade this point. I miss vulc es

Square one was a garbage true. Poor build quality. I had 2 pair. The shoe feel apart before I could even skate it. It marked a he downfall of es for me imo.


That being they released a shoe called the Caspian a few years ago that looked good

[yourfuckingdad]

Am I the only one who misses the vulc era of ES, with Bobby worrest, manderson and Danny Garcia

Don't give them any ideas.

[2000]

has anyone skated the fusion vulc shoes from like 2011? I never tried them and always wondered the point, I had the system g2 heels in the og reynold 3s. I remember the last pair I got before they went under was theory 2.0 and it had this DTTF insole that was huge like the adidas adiprene insoles from the suciu and superstar vulc from like 2017 and it was sick. I found them last year at my parents place but idk what happened to the insoles and I need them to skate.

[2000]

went on ebay to see if I could find any and got damn

[Chalupa]

Here are some for $50:
https://westernskateco.com/search?q=square+one&options[prefix]=last

I don’t know whether you can wear or skate them, though. Someone told me that the foam in midsoles crumble after 5-10 years depending on humidity levels and how you store your shoes.

[dumptruck12]

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Am I the only one who misses the vulc era of ES, with Bobby worrest, manderson and Danny Garcia

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Don't give them any ideas.

I’d give them money to bring back bobbys shoe

[DarkPools]

went on ebay to see if I could find any and got damn

Those are Square Twos, too! Not even the OG Square One hahah

[ToySanta]

Am I the only one who misses the vulc era of ES, with Bobby worrest, manderson and Danny Garcia

The last eS shoe I had was a Danny Garcia. I remember it being stiffer than I was used to plus black and like graphite. I think it was a collab with Atiba; maybe Ako? I remember a photo book but I was disappointed by the quality and binding, especially.

People were so upset about the Lakai sale last year but Rick & Mike disregarded some of the top skaters during their history and those guys left for greener pastures. I would’ve happily bought a Pops or D Gar shoe at the time they could’ve capitalized.

[MyUserName]

I had a pair of the second D-Gar shoe (the vulcanized one), and one tongue was puffier than the other. Like 2:1 size comparison. It pissed me off so much.