end times

[SneakySecrets]

I guess we’ve crossed the rubicon and have completely given up the idea of the rule of law.  Ok.  Democracy hasn’t ever worked and we are bystanders watching the thing fall apart right in our faces. 

We’ve reached the point of societal collapse.  It probably won’t happen this week, but within the next decade, yeah.  Anyone that has read a bit about the fall of the Roman republic and empire could draw straightforward connections to our situation now and then.  The devaluation of our currency, the flood of immigrants, weakening of borders, empirical overreach, famine (media refuses to cover our food factories keep catching fire)…

First off, we should see ourself not as a country but as the head of a worldwide empire.  We spend more on our military than the next 12 counties combined.  Wr have almost 1,000 military bases all throughout the world.  We are itching for war against Russia and China and we will be obliterated if it ever kicks off.  Look at the proxy war in Ukraine… is it going our way?


It’s very sad and very interesting to watch it happening in real time.  Extremely painful would be the only way I could describe it. 

Any cursory glance at the news compared to reality would tell someone that our society doesn’t work as we’ve been told it does. 

Ok, so what are we to do?  I have a few ideas.  I know I’m speaking to a primarily brainwashed/progressive audience.  The president is actually braindead.  We are being steered by a cabal of corporate and special interests wearing the federal government as a skinsuit.  These people don’t have our best interest in mind. 

The world is uniting against us.  Not only militarily but economically.  We have this normalcy bias that keeps us from seeing what is approaching.  I know it hurts to look at.


Hello??? 

Buy guns, learn how to use them, stock ammo, try to move your family into rural areas if possible, invest in precious metals.  Learn how to grow and store food.

If you’re so indoctrinated that you think I’m crazy, then I don’t know what to tell ya… don’t have time for the debate.  🤷‍♂️

[JANUS]

Eh, before I venture into dark, misanthropic territory, are you alright sneaky? I can’t pretend to know you, but I feel like the tone of your posts has become bleaker over the past few years. And despite how weird and antisocial I am, I often think about many posters on here, you included, and I care about many of you in my own weird, distant way.

[fur lined sea]

Collapse (in almost every way) is happening now, probably has for a long time. We've fucked everything and the pile of shit gets bigger each day: business as usual.

The ecological collapse is what concerns me most and will decide our fate. The moment we thought we were separate and/or above nature ruined us. Like Carlin said, we gave everything up for money, decided to compete against rather than cooperate with, we squandered literally everything, etc, etc. We as a species deserve what's coming.

I have struggled for a long time accepting this. I thought I could shut it off but it's come straight back in the last few years. I move between depression and acceptance quite often.

Today is the best it gets.

[Mr. Kamikazi]

A client I met with yesterday was going on about how we are two years away (248) from a collapsed system as Rome made it 250 but I’m seeing that’s completely false.

Anyway, ironic that I saw this after that conversation.

My in laws would love this thread as they are preparing for the end. It’s laughable to me but hey, life’s a movie, man.

[Frank and Fred]

The world is uniting against us.  Not only militarily but economically.  We have this normalcy bias that keeps us from seeing what is approaching.  I know it hurts to look at.

Unlike with the fall of historical empires the world is so much more interdependent and connected now. if we go, the whole thing goes. and then we re-join the gatherer-hunters who always knew what's up.

it will crumble but timing is tricky. things could rapidly escalate with a certain series of events or we will continue this long slow death walk... don't know... grind now, worry later, become a prepper. we live in interesting times...

the only hope is complete decentralization of power... we all learn to survive on things we can acquire within walking distance of where we live and we cease all travel to and communication with anyone beyond that boundary... nomadic tribes of around 50 people.

[Alan]

When I try to predict the future by looking at the past, I too like to use only one example from 1500 years ago, while also misinterpreting it in the process.

But seriously, I hope you recover from this far right doomerism episode.

It’s very sad and very interesting to watch it happening in real time.

[Frank and Fred]

When I try to predict the future by looking at the past, I too like to use only one example from 1500 years ago, while also misinterpreting it in the process.

But seriously, I hope you recover from this far right doomerism episode.

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It’s very sad and very interesting to watch it happening in real time.

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plenty of lefties and post-lefties feeling this also, these days, from what I've been reading.

[Alan]

I would be happy if you could share what you read because most of what OP wrote does not read as lw ideas/sentiment, broadly speaking.

[JM]

When I lived in LA, I would watch the people experiencing homelessness in the small park across the street and think to myself, “I am one bad month away from not being able to pay for rent and living out there with them.”

It can be pretty bleak to think about the fragility of everything.  (Fuck, just look at how fucked up getting TP was at the start of pandemic when the channels weren’t capable of supplying that kind of demand. And the stock market crash in early 1900’s?)

As inept and selfish and evil some people in power are, we still endure… and I have faith that it’s because there are still good people out there that aim to improve the human race and lookout for their fellow people.

As therapists will tell you: it’s all about what you focus on, because there will always be terrible things to think about, so try to cling to the good and positive things in life and be a positive influence and light to others.

Being prepared isn’t a bad idea, just with anything, do in moderation.

Be well my dude!

[Big Skatefase]

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When I try to predict the future by looking at the past, I too like to use only one example from 1500 years ago, while also misinterpreting it in the process.

But seriously, I hope you recover from this far right doomerism episode.

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It’s very sad and very interesting to watch it happening in real time.

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plenty of lefties and post-lefties feeling this also, these days, from what I've been reading.

Yeah but it's not coming from the same place. Lefties believe the societal collapse is due to late stage capitalism yet the far-right believes the collapse is due to "wokeism" like feminism, LGBTQ rights, etc.

Seeing how to OP outlines "the flood of immigrants" and the "weakening of borders", I'm guessing this isn't coming from a left-wing perspective.

[Frank and Fred]

I would be happy if you could share what you read because most of what OP wrote does not read as lw ideas/sentiment, broadly speaking.

read any column by George Monibot in The Guardian, ((https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/15/food-systems-collapse-plutocrats-life-on-earth-climate-breakdown), https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/09/us-world-climate-collapse-nations ) pick up any recent issue of adjusters, listen to any weekly radio show by john zerzan and countless others. plenty of essays/ books on the left about the collapse.

a classic entry  is, "The Coming Insurrection" https://iberian-connections.yale.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/The-Coming-Insurrection-Semiotexte-Intervention-by-The-Invisible-Committee.pdf

And, https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-desert

You have a tonne of material on here, https://dark-mountain.net

Obvisouly, these are broader takes than the OP has but they all point to the same direction, end game.

[Frank and Fred]

Yeah but it's not coming from the same place. Lefties believe the societal collapse is due to late stage capitalism yet the far-right believes the collapse is due to "wokeism" like feminism, LGBTQ rights, etc.

Mostly agree.

[Alan]

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I would be happy if you could share what you read because most of what OP wrote does not read as lw ideas/sentiment, broadly speaking.

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read any column by George Monibot in The Guardian, ((https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/15/food-systems-collapse-plutocrats-life-on-earth-climate-breakdown), https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/09/us-world-climate-collapse-nations ) pick up any recent issue of adjusters, listen to any weekly radio show by john zerzan and countless others. plenty of essays/ books on the left about the collapse.

a classic entry  is, "The Coming Insurrection" https://iberian-connections.yale.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/The-Coming-Insurrection-Semiotexte-Intervention-by-The-Invisible-Committee.pdf

And, https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-desert

You have a tonne of material on here, https://dark-mountain.net

Obvisouly, these are broader takes than the OP has but they all point to the same direction, end game.

Hah, I forgot that you're an anarchist. Thanks for the links.

[botefdunn]

@Alan Derek Jensen articulates a take on imminent collapse you might find interesting. His analysis comes from an environmental perspective, and is pretty consistent with wider conservationist politics. Environmentalism isn't traditionally associated with rw politics, although maybe it could be, i don't pay enough attention to know.




@SneakySecrets thanks for bringing up some interesting stuff. Personally I don't see the need to be so fearful and paranoid about it though. Humans adapt, it's what we do. Whatever we wind up seeing in our lifetimes, it'll all be part of a story that we'll navigate with ups and downs. Try lo live well, don't be afraid.

[smellsdead]

personally i thought that movie civil war sucked, even if it had suicide and tribe on the soundtrack

[fuck_that_guy]

fuck that guy

[Alan]

@Alan Derek Jensen articulates a take on imminent collapse you might find interesting. His analysis comes from an environmental perspective, and is pretty consistent with wider conservationist politics. Environmentalism isn't traditionally associated with rw politics, although maybe it could be, i don't pay enough attention to know.

Thanks for this!

[j....soy.....]

People have been saying the world is ending for awhile....and they aren't wrong......

[S.]

I disagree.

Why is everyone in the land of the free scared shitless?

[botefdunn]

I disagree.

Why is everyone in the land of the free scared shitless?

well, I kind just said this, bu fear isnt the only response, nor imo the most sensible or healthiest, to a projection of expected problems. But neither is negation of those problems.

[bartlaser]

fear-mongering is real so be careful what you watch and read.

Joe Public is the same everywhere.  We wake up each day, figure out breakfast, go to work/school/run errands/do our daily thing... we love our friends and family and our passions.  Then we go to bed and repeat.  Some days are easier than others.

Our politicians and industry leaders are assholes, but there are more of us, and we have more to relate over. 

Just don't shit on your neighbor.

[pugmaster]

Late stage capitalism feels like a fitting description whenever I check the news. I think America's downfall will be an implosion.

The wealth distribution data is a pretty clear picture as to how "trickle down" economics are a joke and only siphon money from the poor to the ultra wealthy.

America deserves at least one more solid revolution to get money out of politics and fix/eliminate the two party system.


Prepping is not a bad idea. It can get pricey though. I almost forgot a made a thread about it a few years back.
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=101490.0

I actually need to change out the water I have stored. The water additives are only good for 5 years. I try to keep about 6 months worth on hand just because of how important water is. Some of the prepper stuff is pretty shitty quality so you have to make sure you test it out.

I bought this flashlight that was supposed to be amazing but it was absolute trash and barely worked. I should have known better than to buy from a company that had "patriots" in the title. https://4patriots.com/products/haloxt-tactical-solar-flashlights

This is a video I like related to prepping. Make sure to turn on the subtitles since it is in French.


Not sure we have given up on the rule of law. Ol' 45 is a man-child that cannot handle anything that does not go his way. He can appeal and it will go through the process of review. Both the defense and prosecution were okay with the jurors selected and everything else at this point appears to have followed all the necessary processes. Due process is incredibly important. 

He is doing a rinse and repeat of 2020. CLEARLY the election was rigged. Not the 2016 election though, because that time he won. Hopefully if he tries to pull the same crap there will be consequences in some way, shape, or form. Like Fox having to pay 780 million to settle out of court for false allegations that the election was stolen, which they presumably did because they did not want to go to trial.

He absolutely must be held accountable for Jan 6. If that trial does not occur before elections, I'll probably have a psychotic break.

[Sincerity]

Try growing a garden, Sneaky. Not for survival after an apocalypse but to help you feel more connected right now. I wish you well.

[ungzilla]

yes dude, the solution to 70 years of the reactionary right wing project that is slowly erasing our rights and lowering our standard of living is... more right wing policies and paranoia? try having some solidarity with your working class brethren, immigrants are not taking from you, it's the rich

[L33Tg33k]

Congratulations on your joining the fringe of every single generation ever to exist in thinking you are special enough to see the end of days! I think I’m just going to wait this one out.

[pugmaster]

This guy kind of irritates me but this video does a decent job illustrating why I get frustrated with the right about how they approach this whole mess.



How the right can make themselves/tRump the victim no matter the context drives me up the fucking wall. They are goading their base to more discord/violence than J6. The second half of 2024 is going to be a shit show whether or not tRump wins.

[Frank and Fred]

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I would be happy if you could share what you read because most of what OP wrote does not read as lw ideas/sentiment, broadly speaking.

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read any column by George Monibot in The Guardian, ((https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/15/food-systems-collapse-plutocrats-life-on-earth-climate-breakdown), https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/09/us-world-climate-collapse-nations ) pick up any recent issue of adjusters, listen to any weekly radio show by john zerzan and countless others. plenty of essays/ books on the left about the collapse.

a classic entry  is, "The Coming Insurrection" https://iberian-connections.yale.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/The-Coming-Insurrection-Semiotexte-Intervention-by-The-Invisible-Committee.pdf

And, https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-desert

You have a tonne of material on here, https://dark-mountain.net

Obvisouly, these are broader takes than the OP has but they all point to the same direction, end game.

[close]

Hah, I forgot that you're an anarchist. Thanks for the links.

haha. I don't identify as an anarchist or any form of ist, but I have read and continue to be influenced by a lot of anarchist ideas, including derrick jensen. although he has taken some weird turns that involve transphobia and calling cops.

[Lenny the Fatface]

I disagree.

Why is everyone in the land of the free scared shitless?

If I had to guess, it would be due to the economy clearly being much worse than what the media and government are claiming. This is the first time I remember the disparity between truth and message being THIS blatant.

[backside_frontside]

yes dude, the solution to 70 years of the reactionary right wing project that is slowly erasing our rights and lowering our standard of living is... more right wing policies and paranoia? try having some solidarity with your working class brethren, immigrants are not taking from you, it's the rich

Ten thousand gnars for you.

OP try not to be a brain dead idiot

[Chavo]

My faith in the rule of law has been partially restored over the last few days.