Can ollie over Yodok Barrier but can't 5050 a small ledge

[I-am-12]

This is extremely embarrassing to post and I've been holding off, but this is getting absolutely ridiculous at this point. I'm so sorry for making this thread, but every 5050 tutorial is just "Yeah, just jump on the ledge and then lock in bro". They teach absolutely nothing.

In terms of credentials, I have proper high and level kick flips down, clean FS and normal pop shoves, can ollie high as shit over things, skate fast, etc etc etc.

I have been attempting to 5050 a lower than knee high normal skatepark ledge for about 1.5 years now. I still cannot lock in or get on the ledge consistently. I'm not talking about a slappy curb, I'm talking the main ledge at the park.

My front foot always lands on my nose, and my back foot halfway up the board. I am almost always in a nose manual when I actually get on the ledge.

I have been attempting this for 1.5 years, trying every single tweak (foot more back, foot more up, more pop, less pop, lean back, lean forward, etc etc.

SURELY someone has had this issue? What does it mean that my feet are always up the board and not bolts?

[mfweeno]

Based on your description of the problem (landing too far “up” the board), it sounds like you might be trying to jump ahead of the board to meet the ledge. For most 5050s I do on ledges, I usually try to think of popping a normal ollie, then aiming my trucks down to the ledge after I hit my peak ollie height. Keep in mind - I’m not trying to pop the highest ollie I can every time, I’m just trying to pop high enough to allow myself to place the trucks down.
Might be helpful to see a video of your attempts to give more specific feedback.

[biaherl]

I'm not going to read all of that but maybe you should try on a higher ledge


Sometimes the easier stuff is harder

[Plan9Customs]

Film yourself and see what’s happening. Maybe try just doing axle stalls to get used to the height and locking in, then adjust to a more parallel approach once you get those solid and start grinding them.
Or as stated above, higher ledge. Sounds like you’re probably popping way to high for that one.

[scab]

I'd start by going perpendicular to the ledge and ollieing onto it. Try to squarely lock in both trucks with your weight distribution slightly favoring your back leg. Do that until you can consistently stand up on top of the ledge. Once you've got that on lock, you can start to angle your approach slowly until you come at the ledge almost parallel.

Or you could just try to do 5-0s and see what happens. Since you seem to have too much weight on your front foot, shooting for a 5-0 might simply get you to 5050.

[Sila]

You could have worse skate problems

[roba]

try to 50-50 stall shit that doesn’t grind

[I-am-12]

Thanks for the advice guys, I'll try the 5-0 thing + trying to not jump as high.

[RichardBarkley]

Film yourself.

Honestly sounds like you have unconsciously picked up a bad habit and it's become muscle memory. That's very common..

Film it and analyse it yourself. Better yet stick it up here.

From what you say, it sounds like your jumping forward

[Suangi]

Sounds stupid but try riding straight at the ledge and doing a 90 degree ollie to axle stall and then hop off. You'll get the feeling and then can gradually narrow down the angle until you can keep speed into the grind.

[behavioralguide]

Yodock barrier

Yodok was a north korean concentration camp

[behavioralguide]

Unless its a specific barrier at the latter you can ollie i think you ment the first

[I-am-12]

I figured this out, and yes, it was some bad habits I picked up a while ago. Going to a different skatepark actually fixed it, despite the ledges being different sizes (and one even taller than my usual).


For anyone wondering:

- I was coming in at too much of an angle.
- I needed more weight on my front foot / was sitting back seat. Focusing on bending my front leg more than usual. This was huge.
- I needed to lift my front foot straight up (and mentally, I'm thinking about kneeing myself in the stomach if that makes sense). This was huge also. This is the consequences of the old-school mentality of an ollie involving your foot lifting "up and diagonal forward". If you ignore the diaginal part, you go higher. It levels out on its own.

They're on lock now. Point #3 for sure explains why I was also landing in nose manual I believe. It's funny how your fundamentals go out the window when you're doing something new lol.

THANK YOU

[Suangi]

Nice! Now for backside

[97a]

Good to hear that it's working now. My suggestion would have been to lock in with the front truck a tad before the back truck and also to place the center of gravity there. Helps if the curb is scary.

[Sleazy]

try to 50-50 stall shit that doesn’t grind

pretty much, i always try the stall first and then start going at it with more speed