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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #300 on: January 24, 2025, 09:56:31 AM »
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #301 on: January 24, 2025, 10:43:02 AM »
Thanks for a response more thoughtful and respectful than my rant.
Full disclosure, I was a few beers deep and it's been hard to keep from wearing my heart on my sleeve lately.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #302 on: January 24, 2025, 11:05:33 AM »
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Because Harris and Biden have been so good to the Palestinians during their term, especially these past 15 months. Biden could’ve ended the bloodshed in Gaza and the West Bank anytime he wanted to. Either through an arms embargo or putting tougher conditions on aid to Israel. Neither party gives a shit about Palestinians.
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It's really naive to think Biden would've just called up Bibi and be like "you guys need to stop this malarky or else no more iron dome missiles for you". Like lol yeah right that's never happening. In what world do you think Biden would've ever done that? He's the most spineless and milquetoast man in history.

I do agree that neither party gives a shit about Palestinians.
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It is not naivety. He has done it before. In May of 2021 when Sheikh Jarrah was happening.

“But guess who he couldn’t reject? Yes, the president of the United States. “We need to accomplish more,” pleaded Netanyahu when Biden called him on 19 May, according to the journalist Franklin Foer. The president’s response? “Hey, man, we are out of runway here. It’s over.”

Two days later, a ceasefire was announced. And, less than a month later, the Israeli prime minister had been ejected from office.”

You can read about it here and how it applies to the situation in Gaza over the last 15 months.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/feb/21/biden-stop-gaza-bombing-genocide-israel

The US arms Israel. If we turn off the flow of arms, less people die. It’s a simple equation.
I’m sure the fact that it was an election year was a deterrent. Both parties need that AIPAC money.

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Damn, I didn't know Biden had a spine in 2021.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #303 on: January 24, 2025, 01:05:22 PM »
I think what's going to be key is not fight each other. sounds simple and obvious but keep your eye on the real enemy. Just look at how this thread is playing out.

I'm a social worker, I work for a Fed funded housing program ran by a non-profit. I can feel people's stress-levels rising... We are already fighting each other over DEI... Divide and Conquer... Be patient with each other, assume best intentions, lead with kindness and direct your hate and resistance in the right direction... Sounds easy but it really is a practice...


This is the core of it all.  Finding common ground with all of your fellow citizens and realising you're all viewed as expendable fuel to feed the greed machine. 

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #304 on: January 24, 2025, 01:27:23 PM »
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I think what's going to be key is not fight each other. sounds simple and obvious but keep your eye on the real enemy. Just look at how this thread is playing out.

I'm a social worker, I work for a Fed funded housing program ran by a non-profit. I can feel people's stress-levels rising... We are already fighting each other over DEI... Divide and Conquer... Be patient with each other, assume best intentions, lead with kindness and direct your hate and resistance in the right direction... Sounds easy but it really is a practice...
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This is the core of it all.  Finding common ground with all of your fellow citizens and realising you're all viewed as expendable fuel to feed the greed machine.

But...The Greed Machine is Freedom! The Greed Machine will make my enemies suffer!
If I should end up suffering, it's not The Greed Machine's fault!
People like YOU are interfering with The Greed Machine's glorious work!
Enemies of The Greed Machine aren't true Americans!
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #305 on: January 24, 2025, 02:18:22 PM »
i agree with you, @EdLawndale & @GnarAlarm – even though voting wouldn't change the system in its core, but this time it was to prevent the worst case scenario. the current outcome is a so many times worse than a Kamala administration could have ever been. The discussion not to vote is quite a privileged one to have.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #306 on: January 24, 2025, 02:54:47 PM »
Yeah, never any bad feelings btwn IUTSM and I, as far as I'm concerned.

But I'm still a little perplexed why one wouldn't place as significant an amount of importance on the act of voting as one puts on grass roots outreach to serve those in need in a community.

They don't have to be mutually exclusive; they work in tandem. The effect of community outreach is almost certainly more impactful when you have support from the government, through grants and subsidies and so forth.

And the way that you get that kind of support from the government is by ensuring that politicians who advocate for such community outreach are put into positions of power where they can be decision-makers who have control over the budget (not to mention official stances towards groups of ppl on the city, state and Federal level).

And the way that you get politicians who advocate for community outreach and other progressive social justice reform programs into power is by voting them into office.

I mean, it's not just financial support/backing. It's issuing permits for community events, it's allowing research depts to be built and function, giving ppl the freedom to identify how they want to, love who they desire to love, not criminalizing and intimidating folks for just existing, putting enhancements on hate crimes, etc.

These factors all contribute to the underlying causes of the necessary community outreach in the first place.

Shit, even if the politicians don't actually give a fuck about the under-served in the community but just want to extend funding for the look and to hold up the appearance of giving a fuck, like they're that lady in "Veep" or something...I'll take that over some asshole telling me "Fuck you" to my face and cutting funding and witholding aid with conditions and villainizing marginalized communities because he represents a bunch of other assholes. I'll take the former over the latter any day of the week.

So why make things harder for ourselves? The people you speak of might not be as powerless as you claim; Most American citizens at least have the power to vote.
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #307 on: January 24, 2025, 02:56:33 PM »
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #308 on: January 24, 2025, 03:27:54 PM »
I don't generally conduct polls for rhetorical questions, no.
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #309 on: January 25, 2025, 05:01:59 AM »
Taking it lying down like a bitch isn’t helping either, fuck the defeatist attitudes and apathy on display in here. Vote at the bare minimum, go out and talk to people and organize in real life, “touch grass” as one would put it.

Or just take it lying down like a fucking pussy, do you then.


Cool man, just vote harder next time i guess. That will surely fix things.
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #310 on: January 25, 2025, 11:31:09 AM »
End of Week 1

On top of things already listed in this thread, Donny Don't's minions or Trump Jung Un's comrades have:

Pushed the Senate to confirm Pete Hegseth our domestic violence, sexual assault/likely rapy, alcoholic, veteran NGO money stealing, "theocratic," Fox News host whose own mom called him out as an abuser of women as the head of the DoD.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5017946-pentagon-pick-hegseth-misconduct/

Threatened FEMA's existence
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-will-sign-executive-order-fundamentally-change-or-get-rid-fema-2025-01-24/

Empowered non-federal officials to act as federal immigration officers.

Repealed a Biden order requiring planning for the effects of climate change on world migration patterns.

Decided he hated USMCA/NAFTA 2.0, you know the agreement that he negotiated

Threatened a 25% tariff on Canadian and Mexican goods. Threatened 10% to 60% on China. 

Ordered to reduce fentanyl imports via tariffs

After claiming how bad TikTok was a few years ago, he invited TikTok CEO to inauguration and wants to be seen as the app's savior.

Pushed directive that no government employee can encourage social media sites to police misinformation or disinformation. (lol, i love these two next to one another, no employee can do it because Trump will just tell the CEOs himself)

Declared national emergency so gov can more easily claim/steal land to produce things he wants produced

Ordered gov to ignore regulations for so they can rush the permitting of land for energy resources. Note: Prior to Trump coming into office, the USA was already producing more oil than it ever has and gas prices already retreated and oil companies don't want the price to go lower. This is fucking stupid.

Eliminated any rules that might prevent us using energy that does not pollute (except for hydro because at least hydro sometimes hurts animals and fish, so that makes it ok).

Undid Biden's executive order that was meant to at least understand the financial risk of not addressing climate change.

Gave a big fuck you Alaska's nature as all suspension of oil extraction from Arctic National Wildlife Refuge is void.

Denied sacred site in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

Denying all off-shore wind energy permits. If there is anything Trump hates its energy that doesn't pollute like crazy.

As we already know, put all DEI workers in government on leave, including those working on environmental justice.

Repealed Biden LGBTQ orders.

Declared that there are only two genders. lol, this one was written so badly, it could be interpreted that Trump declared all humans women. The inability to understand sex and gender is amazing. And the inability to understand some people are born inter-sex is astounding as well.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-trans-ban-defines-everyone-183900371.html

Establish "Department" of memes with the kek lord Egon in charge as Vivek the brown man has already been given the boot.

Froze federal hiring, except for (anti)immigration employees.

5 day RTO for all federal workers (dumb and wasteful policy that is meant to encourage people to quit).

All people directly under Trump are NOT being hired via MERIT (as they discuss with anti-DEI policies as if DEI is 1980s affirmative action, it is just window dressing to begin with), but those under Trump are being tested on loyalty. "Who won the 2020 election?"

Undo Biden orders that made it easier to enroll in medicare, obtain insurance, and get lower prescription drug prices. He can't undo all of them as some of these rules were actual laws passed by congress.

Undo Biden directives on Covid

Threatened Denmark over Greenland.

Sent Rubio to follow up on his Panama Canal threats. (I thought people voted for Trump cause they were tired of war?)

Threatened Canada. (As a dual passport holder, fuck you. South Park jokes can be funny, but this is not funny.)

Paused all foreign aid (and reduce America's soft power around the world. Foreign aid is part of the reason we get to write other countries' laws)

Granted security clearances to aides who haven't passed the security clearance / background check.

Took away security clearances from people he doesn't like (lol, granting it to those who might not pass a background check, but taking it away from those who had, this is good for America.)

Trump's personal design standards for our government buildings. (I'm mixed on this, cool government buildings would be cool, but Trump's taste is awful and I know our diplomats often take pride in are boring ass buildings because it shows we aren't here for bribes or to enrich ourselves, but to get shit done. Unlike say the Russians who love conspicuous shows of wealth and looooove being bribed.)

Trying to murder the 37 people Biden saved from the death penalty, by seeing if he can convince the state to kill them instead.

Making sure all states have the drugs need for the government to kill people in prisons (the death penalty is marked a homicide on death certificates)

Directed states to pursue the death penalty as often as possible

Revoked security from Fauci, Pompeo, and others. 

And, even though it is already mentioned, fucking pardoned and commuted nearly all the Jan 6th rioters including leaders of groups that--people are saying--are becoming domestic terrorist groups.

And, as already mentioned, increased his personal wealth by 50 billion by producing a meme coin. The wealth he actually had from real estate and TV and such is around 1.4 billion, his stupid truth social stock is worth a few billion, and his meme coin that was created days ago, is worth 10x all of this.

It is very very sad that America has elected someone who is known piece of shit and was mentored by Sen. McCarthy's lawyer.
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #311 on: January 25, 2025, 12:00:51 PM »
You know about the movie The Apprentice that just came out?


Also, not sure if I missed it, but obviously Cuba got put back on the Terrorist Watch List


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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #313 on: January 25, 2025, 03:23:34 PM »
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-fires-least-12-independent-inspectors-general-washington-post-reports-2025-01-25/

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/25/trump-israel-bomb-shipment-hold-gaza

Everyone knows Trump wants to develop Gaza and annex the West Bank because “it’s such beautiful land.”
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #314 on: January 25, 2025, 04:47:12 PM »
Just saw a Reddit thread from a VA hospital employee stating that VA police were going to various departments questioning employees about “DEI materials” and removing anything they found that they deemed questionable.

There are lots of replies from employees at other locations saying that they experienced the same, and that they are encouraged to “snitch” on others.  Examples of “DEI materials” included flyers for MLK day.

I’d assume this going on across other agencies and will escalate. 

Be prepared for what’s coming.
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #316 on: January 25, 2025, 06:06:41 PM »
Interesting take on this second Trump term and what resistance is looking like so far. Some good commentary also,

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/25/magazine/trump-hyperpolitics-resistance.html

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #317 on: January 25, 2025, 06:22:10 PM »
here's the article. unfortunately, can't copy the comments as they were pretty enlightening... bear in mind this is very mainstream 'liberal' definition of, and perspective on 'resistance' but still.... 

By Ross Barkan
Jan. 25, 2025
"When Donald Trump was inaugurated as the 47th president of the United States, it was too cold to go outside. An arctic chill had enveloped much of the country, and Trump, this time, joined history in the Capitol Rotunda. Thousands of supporters huddled in a nearby arena to watch him address the nation on a screen; there was no outdoor parade. The streets were mostly empty of his critics, and the weather could be blamed for that as well.

But if Washington had been so frigid eight years ago, it’s easy to imagine that liberals would have been willing to risk frostbite. Trump’s first inauguration, in 2017, was countered by the Women’s March, which brought nearly 500,000 people to Washington alone, making fleeting icons out of its chief organizers and standing, at the time, as the largest single day of mass protest in American history.

Trump was a crisis and an obsession back then, and the “resistance” to his administration represented the high-water mark for a certain kind of liberalism: one that was sincere and totalizing, full of fury and a thirst for action. Almost every Democrat, from the ex-presidents to the junior staffers, had a blockbuster opinion on how Trump won, why Hillary Clinton failed and where the party had to migrate. They meted out blame: James Comey, the Russians, Bernie Sanders, Jill Stein, the white working class. Every Democrat seemed to have a plan for resisting Trump, too — for ensuring his presidency would never have the patina of normalcy.

Just a few months into Trump’s presidency, Al Green, a representative from Texas, called for his impeachment, and rank-and-file Democrats reveled in the speed at which the new, incendiary president might be undone. Not a day went by, it seemed, when there wasn’t a mass march or calls for a fresh demonstration. Twitter and Instagram were hothouses for anti-Trump activism. Causes were minted quickly: standing up for immigrants (which morphed into the drive to abolish Immigration and Customs Enforcement), or defending women (which fueled the Women’s March and, later, #MeToo), or sustaining Black Lives Matter (which reached its apogee after George Floyd was killed in 2020).
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The 2010s resistance to Trump — that sprawling, seemingly irrepressible mass movement that joined everyone from Bush Republicans to Bernie socialists — was like little else in the modern era. It seems even more remarkable in retrospect than it did at the time. This was a period during which there was debate over whether Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Trump’s press secretary, should even be served at a restaurant.

The Trump movement could be equally fervent. There were obvious policy components that attracted his supporters — nativism, protectionism, railing against elites — and Trump was wise enough to jettison unpopular parts of the old Republican platform, like slashing Social Security and waging new wars overseas. But much of his appeal is personal; to be MAGA is almost to inhabit an identity category. Ardently following Trump can mean caring, suddenly, about all his particular predilections and mounting a fight against the enemy wherever possible — in product boycotts or on street corners, on social media or in NASCAR chants, in school board meetings or at election sites.

There is a term, coined by the leftist writer and academic Anton Jäger, to describe this era: hyperpolitics. It denotes the period between the mid-2010s and the early 2020s, when politics engorged much of the public discourse. This was the moment of all-encompassing, high-stakes political stances, in which people looked out to see good always fighting evil — the far right taking up its tiki torches or antifa roving the streets — and culture turned into a perpetual tinderbox. It was, at times, a performance art, and notably mimetic. Its MAGA caps and pussy hats belonged to the same lineage of letting absolute strangers know exactly what your values are.

In 2025, everything is different. The protests are relatively muted. Few Democrats talk about impeachment or sustain their alarm over incipient fascism, even with Elon Musk possibly gesticulating like a Nazi. For all the spectacle of Trump, this inauguration was, ultimately, a rather ordinary one.

Democrats do not seem as anguished or animated by this Trump Restoration as they were by his ascension; neither are they howling about their own party’s future. The left — looking up after eight years of resisting Trump and finding that in fact, he has expanded his vote share in each general election — is recalibrating. Some progressives have signaled their willingness to work with Trump if he embraces their policy aims, while centrists fret that the Republicans have outflanked them on too many cultural issues. Border policies that were decried as fascistic in Trump’s first term are gradually being embraced, or at least no longer resisted. The old discourse around the “normalization” of Trump is dead; businesses that once stood at a remove from Trump giddily treat him as an ordinary president now.
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Republicans, for their part, are still engrossed by Trump, but even their politics feel more muted — at least compared with the 2010s ascendance of the alt-right, back when Milo Yiannopoulos was preening for the cameras. As the Republican coalition has expanded, it has found it harder to hold onto its spirit of righteous insurgency. Americans are no less polarized now. But the sense that the political was entirely personal, that performing politics was vital, seems to be fading. We are exiting the era of hyperpolitics.

All flames — even the hottest and most spectacular — eventually burn out.

Perhaps the most important way to understand the causes that dominated the hyperpolitical era is that they each, in their own ways, could be seen in Manichaean terms. They were moralistic; they possessed heroes and villains. Chief among them was the struggle against Trump, which was framed first and foremost as a struggle against fascism. In the early days of 2017, there was fear over what Trump might do to the country, but this fear mingled with a certain thrill: Those resisting him could feel they were making history, taking up a cause as heroic as the last century’s antifascists had.

To be on one side and against the other was to be consumed with a style of activism that demanded righteousness. Fervor was the currency and “moral clarity” the catchword. Nuance was discarded; against Trump, the world-historical menace, who had time for it? By 2020, stopping Trump was the overriding theme of the election, with the pandemic as the inescapable backdrop. In that same year came the killing of Floyd, triggering the largest mass protests in American history.

Conservatives, too, mobilized fully on the cultural terrain, fighting over school curriculums and library contents, bashing any corporation that seemed too socially liberal, treating the consumption of ivermectin as a form of political resistance.

But those same pathologies did not take over the 2024 presidential election. It had its culture-war fodder and circumstantial peculiarity — the 11th-hour Kamala Harris ascension, Trump’s third straight nomination — but in the end it proved rather ordinary. Its discourse was dominated by inflation, immigration and even trade policy. Some post-election analyses homed in on cultural issues, especially Trump’s attack on trans rights, but the consensus, in the end, was that the electorate had cared more about material concerns, like the cost of living or the state of the southern border.
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Now that it’s done, with relatively few on the left genuinely shocked by Trump’s win, accommodation and acceptance are the new watchwords. There is chatter about deal making, whether it’s from Gretchen Whitmer, the Michigan governor who is a probable 2028 candidate, or Senator Elizabeth Warren, the Massachusetts progressive who was a leading light of the 2010s resistance. (Senate Democrats who said similar things in 2016 tended to be drowned out by those promising resistance.) Hardly anyone is being tagged as a fascist collaborator for openly musing on how to work with the second Trump administration; the old psychology around complicity, from back when visiting the White House could be equated to lunching with Goebbels, has melted away.

It’s remarkable, in fact, that despite all its fervor, the era of hyperpolitics did not leave behind much that was durable. Many of its leaders have fallen out of public view; there is no equivalent of a 1960s “civil rights generation” to carry the work forward. Black Lives Matter and the Women’s March do not stand, in 2025, as well-wired, fully functioning political organizations, able to organize mass marches at a moment’s notice.

In that hyperpolitical time, Jäger wrote, very few people were “involved in the sort of organized conflicts of interests that we would once have described, in a classical, 20th-century sense, as ‘politics.’” There were arguments about morality, not policy or governance. There was talk of expanding the welfare stare, certainly, but Sanders’s Medicare for All was not at the heart of these fights, nor was rolling back globalization, as with the 1999 protests against the World Trade Organization. The hyperpolitical left wasn’t even reliably excited by the Biden administration’s concrete actions — its industrial policy or its tranches of cash for roads, bridges and public transportation.

The drama surrounding antifascism faded; now it can seem tired and alarmist to warn that Trump will end free elections. Another standard reflex, under hyperpolitics, was to attribute much of Trump’s popularity to racism, but that argument has struggled to sustain itself: Trump has, in each successive general election, increased his vote share with nonwhite working-class voters, flipping majority-Latino counties, attracting far more Asian voters and even making inroads with Black men.

The corporations and politicians that once paid lip service to the values of alarmed liberals now feel free to reverse course. Mark Zuckerberg, the chief executive of Meta, went on Joe Rogan’s show to express his desire for a corporate culture that celebrates masculinity and “aggression.” After the election, the Massachusetts Democrat Seth Moulton reacted to the clash over trans rights — which Trump’s campaign appeared to successfully exploit — by declaring that he didn’t want his daughters “getting run over on a playing field by a male or formerly male athlete.” He was, of course, condemned by some. But the backlash he faced was nothing akin to what he might have encountered a few years ago. The activist energy has leaked away.
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The lack of grandiose rancor between Trump and the Democrats may also be manifesting within the party itself. Remarkably, there is little outward agonizing over what comes next, and what the party should resemble in the coming years. The Democratic National Committee will be the locus of opposition to Trump and chart the party’s future, but the contest for its chair has, to the surprise of many, been tame. It pits Ben Wikler, the chair of the Wisconsin Democratic Party, against Ken Martin, the chair of the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party. The two have much in common and few ideological disagreements. They clash on mechanics and how beholden they might be to national consultants or other state party chairs. Otherwise, beyond their ages and home states, it is difficult to tell them apart.

Such a tepid matchup is another thing that would have been unimaginable eight years ago. Back then, Keith Ellison, a congressman and Sanders acolyte, was in a seismic struggle with Tom Perez, a former Obama administration official, for leadership. Each side spoke of the existential. It was time to save the country, which meant the ideological direction of the party was freighted with importance: Would Democrats embrace uncompromising progressivism or establishmentarian liberalism? Try to reach working-class voters by railing against corporate power, or dominate the suburban vote as the party of conventionality? Across Trump’s first term, we saw an internecine war that boiled down to an argument on how best to defeat Trump himself. This was the shadow that hung over the 2020 presidential race and the upstart primaries that brought leftist superstars like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez into the public eye.

Ken v. Ben lacks those kinds of stakes, barely captivating the 450-odd D.N.C. members who will actually decide the outcome. Despite a clear sense that the habits of the last era have failed the party, some of them seem hard for Democrats to kick. Wikler recently posted on X that he would lift up the Democratic Party’s “full coalition,” checking off “Black, Latino, Native, AANHPI, LGBTQ, Youth, Interfaith, Ethnic, Rural, Veteran, and Disability representation.” It was a throwback to a kind of politics that soothed Democrats throughout the 2010s but could not halt the progression of the Trump right — the kind of identitarian inclusiveness that does more on a moral, symbolic, hyperpolitical level than it does to offer anything of political substance to the groups in question. Perhaps it was comforting to some, but for voters — and those who couldn’t decode every abbreviation or wondered why the “interfaith” were their own subset of the coalition — it was surely perplexing.

What lies ahead, it seems, is a cooling, characterized less by dejection than by a sober realization that whatever was tried before simply didn’t work. It is challenging, after all, to maintain a perpetual state of alarm and tell voters that every election might be the last one. The anti-Trump resistance, on its own terms, was a failure. Trump is here, yet again, and he’s a popular vote champion this time.

What comes next might be a more conventional politics — one still grounded in resistance, but perhaps of a quieter type. When Trump signed his executive order to end birthright citizenship, the governors and attorneys general of more than 20 states sued to stop him. Mass protest wasn’t required, nor were calls for a fresh antifascist movement. The work was merely done. Democrats seemed to be saying, implicitly, that this was enough: action without performance.

The cyclical nature of American politics promises that even Trump’s moment in the sun will last only so long. If he stumbles, 2026 may see more Democrats in Congress and an end to the G.O.P.’s ability to pass significant legislation. What is probably not soon returning, regardless, is the white-hot activism of the last decade. Politics will be the static, crackling in the background. It won’t be everything, anymore."

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #318 on: January 25, 2025, 08:21:07 PM »
The Russificiation of our government continues:

Trump Jung Un has purged independent officials assigned to root out mismanagement and illegal acts in the US government. This is not normal.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-defends-dismissal-dozen-federal-005119638.html

The thought police is coming in strong, even mentioning Black people's or women's accomplishments is illegal. 
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-anti-dei-order-yanks-air-force-video-first-black-pilots-2025-01-25/


As for the NYTimes article, I think author is right that it isn't just Trump this time, BUT then again, I don't think the voter fully understood what was coming. And, for the centrists and liberals, I think there is/was a belief that we lived through it once, we can do it again. There isn't a lack of dismay, there is oversupply of confidence this time around. Confidence that the system will push back, forgetting that people make up the system.

And, yea, I think a lot of Kalama's loss can be explained away via inflation and anti-immigrant sentiment, but pretending the election wasn't about culture wars is a weird ass thing to say considering one of Trump's strongest ads was "Kalama is for they/them, Trump is for you" and the debate over trans-athletes was central despite the fact that out of the 500,000 NCAA athletes, there are only 10 trans athletes. This is .002% of NCAA athletes.

And, Trump/Vance weren't presenting their immigration position to the public by debating the number of immigrants or the number of people protecting the border, he was framing legal immigrants as evil savages who will steal and eat your dog.



https://www.kget.com/sports/ncaa-president-says-there-are-less-than-10-transgender-athletes-in-college-sports/
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #319 on: January 26, 2025, 06:46:27 AM »

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #321 on: January 26, 2025, 06:03:19 PM »
So, we are now in a trade war with Columbia. If coffee is a million dollars tomorrow, there’s going to be problems.
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #322 on: January 27, 2025, 11:15:37 AM »
This is in no way advocating for far right losers as it is for knowing your enemies.


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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #323 on: January 27, 2025, 12:58:16 PM »
So, we are now in a trade war with Columbia. If coffee is a million dollars tomorrow, there’s going to be problems.

Nope, they backed down and it got Eric crowing pretty hard on Twitter in a deleted post.   Mini Greek has it saved in his IG stories

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #324 on: January 27, 2025, 01:02:44 PM »
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cool graphic but it's outdated/incorrect, especially in that 2nd tier. PB, III and anything remotely close are violent motherfuckers.
Yeesh, I didn't want to go in to any farther. Ughhhh they're all scum.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #325 on: January 27, 2025, 02:00:15 PM »
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This is in no way advocating for far right losers as it is for knowing your enemies.


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cool graphic but it's outdated/incorrect, especially in that 2nd tier. PB, III and anything remotely close are violent motherfuckers.
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Yeesh, I didn't want to go in to any farther. Ughhhh they're all scum.
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I mention it because it's about accountability. Last go round we heard all sorts of noise about these guys being somethign other than a violent street gang or militia group. There was a good amount of media coverage about PB not being a white supremacist group due to guys like Tario being in there.

I'm not implying that you are, Franksnose, but making excuses or toning it down regarding these groups is worse than dickheads excusing Musk and his Nazi salute in DC. Bet that one feels like cheese curds coming out of the dick in light of his speech with the German AFD fascists a few days ago.
For sure, the idea of hate groups are feeling emboldened from these dickheads Trumpf or Musk is sickening. I just didn't want anything popping up on my phone from far right groups

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #326 on: January 27, 2025, 09:40:28 PM »
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I'm curious how this nightmare will play out. His push against vaccines is moronic, his push for redirecting the NIH money towards homeopathic idiocy will be terrible, but his support for better nutrition and less processed food is good. And, letting adults make themselves sick with raw milk, well good for them. I hope they really feel like they're owning the libs while crouched on the bathroom floor battling diarrhea, stomach cramps, and vomiting.

I'm also curious to see how Republicans feel about their kids being forced to eat kale at school, they sure loved it when Michelle Obama encouraged schools to serve less disgusting food. Also, while I had thought school lunch was always complete trash, it was Reagan who encouraged a world where schools didn't make food but just brought in pre-made trash.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #327 on: January 28, 2025, 11:11:20 AM »
I spent the whole campaign doomscrolling and getting scolded by my s/o that I was worrying for nothing.  Now he’s in, I logged off for my own sanity, and she’s dooming over all the headlines and throwing crazy scenarios at me.  Can’t make this shit up.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #328 on: January 28, 2025, 12:06:25 PM »
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #329 on: January 28, 2025, 12:25:23 PM »
There's going to be a recession under Trump. Then, his rich elite friends are going to buy up shit for ridiculous sale prices.
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