Changes under Trump 2.0

[Mongo Lloyd]

Something really bad is about to happen and I don’t think anyone is at all prepared for the magnitude of it.

I mean they’re already exiling non violent immigrants to a communication void concentration camp of Gitmo. I’d argue it can’t get worse than that, but it’s WHO else they wanna add to the pile of immigrants that’s alarming.

The attack on the ADA and Curtis Yarvin’s Soylent Green ideals in regards to the disabled is obviously horrific.

One thing I’m hoping is that humanity will prevail when the shit hits the fan. That our military members will see their brothers and sisters in the faces of the innocent, and that we can prioritize humanity above nationalism and patriotism.

I also don’t see who would wanna work for this unstable version of a government, especially with benefits being gutted (the main draw to working for the federal government).

One thing I wanna make clear too, is this.

What we’re seeing was inevitable. It likely wouldn’t have happened this quickly, but this is absolute end stage capitalism. When the floodgates that kept corporate money out of politics was opened is when the rot slowly crept in.

*yes, Chris Murphy is my Senator. Many of us are very proud of the work he’s doing, even through receiving very personal threats*

[Marion Stoked]

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Something really bad is about to happen and I don’t think anyone is at all prepared for the magnitude of it.

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One thing I’m hoping is that humanity will prevail when the shit hits the fan.

I really used to be this optimistic, until Charlottesville. Really. When you had Nazis marching through a town square in the US screaming "Jews will not replace us." Everything else has just been inevitably downhill from there.

As shitty as it sounds, there could even be some fucked up argument made for the Germans (from top to bottom) during Nazism, that is, they didn't have the benefit of history to learn from. "How do we know Hitler is a fucking psychopathic maniac hellbent on systematically wiping out millions of innocent people? How do we know his genocide programme isn't a good thing? Have we tried it before?"

Fast forward and you have some asshole doing Nazi salutes behind the seal of the US on national television, Nazis marching through cities in the US with impunity and a repeat (resurgence) of the grotesque beliefs that resulted in one of the most significant tragedies of the 20th century, even when we have the information and hindsight to know what this type of ideology leads to. Metaphorically pissing on the graves of all those who lost their lives and subsequently, those who dedicated literal decades of their lives to understanding how such a thing could even come to pass in the first place. Sickening really. Could you imagine if Elie Wiesel was alive to see this shit?

It only took, what? 90 years? Cool. Even with the internet we couldn't prevent it. Look forward to the year 2115 when we start rounding up and wiping out droves of people because they have thick eyebrows, or some other fucking brainless excuse that we come up with because some power hungry bag of shit who wasn't loved enough just so happened to be in the right place at the right time. 

Even if the US somehow makes it out of this, this experiment has been done before. How long until it happens again? "We've run out of fat-free chili! Kill the immigrants!"


I think it's wise to never underestimate the destructive power of sheer human stupidity. And the fact that curtis yarvin has a wife and children is proof enough for me that god doesn't exist. Sorry John Motta.

[Mongo Lloyd]

What you have to remember is Trump is just a figurehead for the 2 main groups pulling at the puppet strings. This is the heritage foundation which wants a white Christian fascist state, and the techno-fascist tech-bro group (your Elon, Curtis Yarvin, Peter Theil, etc.). These groups while wanting similar results, don’t want the same exact results. Hell! They probably don’t even at all like eachother (look no further than Steve Bannon’s public statements about Elon).

The right is so extreme and full of hatred that they will eventually turn on each other, and the factions and gaps will widen. A platform of hate will never be a successful long term platform of governance, because the beast continually and constantly needs to be fed. I don’t see things NOT unraveling, it’s just that the damage in the meantime is going to be massive.

All of this, and I haven’t even touched on economic impact of a marginalized and oppressed society of the lower classes. Corporations and ceos are not going to be thrilled if their bottom line isn’t being met, and that there’s no business or market happening because people simply can’t afford wares. There’s gonna be a lot of unhappy ceos when they realize a policy of fascism is bad for business.

There’s just simply too many micro factors to make this as swift or easy as the kind of thing Curtis Yarvin writes about. Plus, no one is going to listen to a D&D dork barking orders or trying to command a country.

[Fire Air Walk with Me]

The technobros are legit trying to collapse society so they can build their techno utopian network states - e.g https://www.praxisnation.com/. The religious right just wants their select in group to goto heaven or whatever and whoever doesn't align gets to burn on hell / earth. Karl Marx never dropped an album but he was on some heat with this one - History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.

At least we in the farce phase. Anyways I'm not sure what the move is besides community building and holding the line however that looks like.

[tuesday]

Trump making America Russia great again.

[S.]

What you have to remember is Trump is just a figurehead for the 2 main groups pulling at the puppet strings. This is the heritage foundation which wants a white Christian fascist state, and the techno-fascist tech-bro group (your Elon, Curtis Yarvin, Peter Theil, etc.). These groups while wanting similar results, don’t want the same exact results. Hell! They probably don’t even at all like eachother (look no further than Steve Bannon’s public statements about Elon).

The right is so extreme and full of hatred that they will eventually turn on each other, and the factions and gaps will widen. A platform of hate will never be a successful long term platform of governance, because the beast continually and constantly needs to be fed. I don’t see things NOT unraveling, it’s just that the damage in the meantime is going to be massive.

All of this, and I haven’t even touched on economic impact of a marginalized and oppressed society of the lower classes. Corporations and ceos are not going to be thrilled if their bottom line isn’t being met, and that there’s no business or market happening because people simply can’t afford wares. There’s gonna be a lot of unhappy ceos when they realize a policy of fascism is bad for business.

There’s just simply too many micro factors to make this as swift or easy as the kind of thing Curtis Yarvin writes about. Plus, no one is going to listen to a D&D dork barking orders or trying to command a country.

That’s what I am worried about. Infighting does not have to mean the end of a movement. One side might turn on the other when they are not useful anymore eliminating the other and unify the movement. And continuous expansion of a movement of hate does not mean it will exhaust itself after victory it could also expand further and lead to genocide or war.

Look at the outcome of other fascist movements. Look at Nazi Germany, fascist Italy or Spain.

[Scab Picker]

Trump making America Russia great again.

Calling Zelenskyy a dictator when he tried to overthrow democracy is wild. Blaming Ukraine for starting the war is fucking stupid, but he knows what he’s doing. He wants to bootlick for Putin because he thinks he can get access to mine for resources in Ukrainian regions seized by Russia. This is probably being pushed by the tech bros who bought the election.

[h00man]

United States has officially bent the knee to Russia.

Congrats everyone!

[TastyBurrito]

United States has officially bent the knee to Russia.

Congrats everyone!

You mean bent over and spread its cheeks to Russia I assume?

[brycickle]

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Trump making America Russia great again.

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Calling Zelenskyy a dictator when he tried to overthrow democracy is wild. Blaming Ukraine for starting the war is fucking stupid, but he knows what he’s doing. He wants to bootlick for Putin because he thinks he can get access to mine for resources in Ukrainian regions seized by Russia. This is probably being pushed by the tech bros who bought the election.

In addition, I think we can all agree that we would be better off if Poland hadn't started WW2.

[Mongo Lloyd]

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What you have to remember is Trump is just a figurehead for the 2 main groups pulling at the puppet strings. This is the heritage foundation which wants a white Christian fascist state, and the techno-fascist tech-bro group (your Elon, Curtis Yarvin, Peter Theil, etc.). These groups while wanting similar results, don’t want the same exact results. Hell! They probably don’t even at all like eachother (look no further than Steve Bannon’s public statements about Elon).

The right is so extreme and full of hatred that they will eventually turn on each other, and the factions and gaps will widen. A platform of hate will never be a successful long term platform of governance, because the beast continually and constantly needs to be fed. I don’t see things NOT unraveling, it’s just that the damage in the meantime is going to be massive.

All of this, and I haven’t even touched on economic impact of a marginalized and oppressed society of the lower classes. Corporations and ceos are not going to be thrilled if their bottom line isn’t being met, and that there’s no business or market happening because people simply can’t afford wares. There’s gonna be a lot of unhappy ceos when they realize a policy of fascism is bad for business.

There’s just simply too many micro factors to make this as swift or easy as the kind of thing Curtis Yarvin writes about. Plus, no one is going to listen to a D&D dork barking orders or trying to command a country.

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That’s what I am worried about. Infighting does not have to mean the end of a movement. One side might turn on the other when they are not useful anymore eliminating the other and unify the movement. And continuous expansion of a movement of hate does not mean it will exhaust itself after victory it could also expand further and lead to genocide or war.

Look at the outcome of other fascist movements. Look at Nazi Germany, fascist Italy or Spain.

The problem is, there’s going to be zero incentive for anyone to do the legwork or groundwork of executing their plans. What’s going to happen is that everybody who isn’t extremely wealthy is going to be suffocated and facing sufferage. Everybody is going to know someone who either dies, loses their housing, or suffers under the weight of the policies. Who is going to be compelled to fight on behalf of those causing the suffering? Yes, I get that the media is commandeered to fit their agenda, but suffering becoming a personal struggle is going to wake many of these people up to the truths.

[h00man]

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United States has officially bent the knee to Russia.

Congrats everyone!

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You mean bent over and spread its cheeks to Russia I assume?

full spread and begging.

[WashingtonNECKTIE]

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Something really bad is about to happen and I don’t think anyone is at all prepared for the magnitude of it.

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I also don’t see who would wanna work for this unstable version of a government, especially with benefits being gutted (the main draw to working for the federal government).

I’m holding my ground at my low GS fed job, knowing I could get canned at any moment. I’m not quitting or resigning only for my sense of duty to the American people the agency was founded for, and tons of spite for the “move fast and break stuff” approach.

Mostly hoping this administration shoots itself in the foot badly enough it bleeds out any support. Again, not holding my breath, just holding the line.

[TastyBurrito]

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Something really bad is about to happen and I don’t think anyone is at all prepared for the magnitude of it.

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I also don’t see who would wanna work for this unstable version of a government, especially with benefits being gutted (the main draw to working for the federal government).

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I’m holding my ground at my low GS fed job, knowing I could get canned at any moment. I’m not quitting or resigning only for my sense of duty to the American people the agency was founded for, and tons of spite for the “move fast and break stuff” approach.

Mostly hoping this administration shoots itself in the foot badly enough it bleeds out any support. Again, not holding my breath, just holding the line.

Gnarring for integrity. Stand the line and I hope your job isn't cut.

[TastyBurrito]

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United States has officially bent the knee to Russia.

Congrats everyone!

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You mean bent over and spread its cheeks to Russia I assume?

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full spread and begging.

[Plan9Customs]

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Trump making America Russia great again.

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Calling Zelenskyy a dictator when he tried to overthrow democracy is wild. Blaming Ukraine for starting the war is fucking stupid, but he knows what he’s doing. He wants to bootlick for Putin because he thinks he can get access to mine for resources in Ukrainian regions seized by Russia. This is probably being pushed by the tech bros who bought the election.

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In addition, I think we can all agree that we would be better off if Poland hadn't started WW2.

Damned Canned Goods.

[Mongo Lloyd]

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Something really bad is about to happen and I don’t think anyone is at all prepared for the magnitude of it.

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I also don’t see who would wanna work for this unstable version of a government, especially with benefits being gutted (the main draw to working for the federal government).

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I’m holding my ground at my low GS fed job, knowing I could get canned at any moment. I’m not quitting or resigning only for my sense of duty to the American people the agency was founded for, and tons of spite for the “move fast and break stuff” approach.

Mostly hoping this administration shoots itself in the foot badly enough it bleeds out any support. Again, not holding my breath, just holding the line.

Hell fucking yeah, dude! I don’t expect anyone to sacrifice beyond their means, but I was hoping we’d have some true unwavering patriots in positions who refuse to buckle!

Huge respect!

[WashingtonNECKTIE]

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Something really bad is about to happen and I don’t think anyone is at all prepared for the magnitude of it.

[close]

I also don’t see who would wanna work for this unstable version of a government, especially with benefits being gutted (the main draw to working for the federal government).

[close]

I’m holding my ground at my low GS fed job, knowing I could get canned at any moment. I’m not quitting or resigning only for my sense of duty to the American people the agency was founded for, and tons of spite for the “move fast and break stuff” approach.

Mostly hoping this administration shoots itself in the foot badly enough it bleeds out any support. Again, not holding my breath, just holding the line.

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Hell fucking yeah, dude! I don’t expect anyone to sacrifice beyond their means, but I was hoping we’d have some true unwavering patriots in positions who refuse to buckle!

Huge respect!

Thanks for the props, Mongo and Tasty. Luckily I'm currently exempt, but who knows...

Don't want to get too specific, but I work facing the public, more or less, in a dept that is largely supported by the public and most politicians (conditionally). If my position gets terminated, I feel like it's a(nother....) barometer of the changes they want to implement. If that's the case, at least I won't have anything barring me from speaking out more loudly. Such a weird spot to be in, feels like I'm sitting on the fence until I get litigiously pushed over one side, but the cause of the dept is noble and I gotta look out for myself and my family.

God speed USA.

[TheLurper]

It has been too distressing to catalog everything, but Trump's actions related to Ukraine/Russia are disgusting.

He is giving Russia everything that they could have ever hoped for (and more), while ensuring Ukraine gets absolutely nothing. Trump, Vance, Musk, Thiel, etc. view the West as the enemy. They are making it clear that they have complete disdain for everything the Allies stood for and would have fought on the side of the Axis in WWII. Remember this Ukraine war is directly Ukraine v Russia/N. Korea. We are rooting for the N. Korean side.

Russia was doing well in terms of gaining land in Ukraine, but watching Russia--a country has struggled to even maintain its population since 1994--weaken itself by losing working age men and waste resources on war has been a benefit to the West. The key benefit to them has been learning a lot about drone warfare.

[TheLurper]

It has been proposed (Bernie Sanders said this the other day) Musk might be trying to privatize everything so he can profit off it. The easiest example being SpaceX taking over for the FAA.

Musk built his wealth off of the American government and seems to want more and more of our money, while making sure the US government gives him and other too wealthy people tax breaks, while cutting the most basic needs based programs for everyday people.

I'm so fucking sick of the cycle of conservatives saying, "Why are spending money on [Ukraine, homeless people, immigrants, safety, whatever], we should be spending it on 'Americans'" and then cut all the things that help Americans.

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Something really bad is about to happen and I don’t think anyone is at all prepared for the magnitude of it.

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One thing I’m hoping is that humanity will prevail when the shit hits the fan.

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I really used to be this optimistic, until Charlottesville. Really. When you had Nazis marching through a town square in the US screaming "Jews will not replace us." Everything else has just been inevitably downhill from there.

As shitty as it sounds, there could even be some fucked up argument made for the Germans (from top to bottom) during Nazism, that is, they didn't have the benefit of history to learn from. "How do we know Hitler is a fucking psychopathic maniac hellbent on systematically wiping out millions of innocent people? How do we know his genocide programme isn't a good thing? Have we tried it before?"

Fast forward and you have some asshole doing Nazi salutes behind the seal of the US on national television, Nazis marching through cities in the US with impunity and a repeat (resurgence) of the grotesque beliefs that resulted in one of the most significant tragedies of the 20th century, even when we have the information and hindsight to know what this type of ideology leads to. Metaphorically pissing on the graves of all those who lost their lives and subsequently, those who dedicated literal decades of their lives to understanding how such a thing could even come to pass in the first place. Sickening really. Could you imagine if Elie Wiesel was alive to see this shit?

It only took, what? 90 years? Cool. Even with the internet we couldn't prevent it. Look forward to the year 2115 when we start rounding up and wiping out droves of people because they have thick eyebrows, or some other fucking brainless excuse that we come up with because some power hungry bag of shit who wasn't loved enough just so happened to be in the right place at the right time. 

Even if the US somehow makes it out of this, this experiment has been done before. How long until it happens again? "We've run out of fat-free chili! Kill the immigrants!"


I think it's wise to never underestimate the destructive power of sheer human stupidity. And the fact that curtis yarvin has a wife and children is proof enough for me that god doesn't exist. Sorry John Motta.

The Germans did have history to learn from and Hitler himself looked to history for inspiration.
World War 1 was not that far in the rear view and the Armenian Genocide was the worst atrocity of that era.

“Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?”
- Adolf Hitler

https://genocideeducation.org/background/hitler-and-the-armenian-genocide/

History keeps repeating itself not out of ignorance but because madmen know they can get away with it.

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Something really bad is about to happen and I don’t think anyone is at all prepared for the magnitude of it.

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I also don’t see who would wanna work for this unstable version of a government, especially with benefits being gutted (the main draw to working for the federal government).

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I’m holding my ground at my low GS fed job, knowing I could get canned at any moment. I’m not quitting or resigning only for my sense of duty to the American people the agency was founded for, and tons of spite for the “move fast and break stuff” approach.

Mostly hoping this administration shoots itself in the foot badly enough it bleeds out any support. Again, not holding my breath, just holding the line.

Same.  Gonna keep showing up as long as my PIV card still gets me in the building.  We took an oath, and I take it seriously.

[TheLurper]

Same.  Gonna keep showing up as long as my PIV card still gets me in the building.  We took an oath, and I take it seriously.

Anyone in the federal gov holding the line for the constitution/Americans deserves some series recognition.

[h00man]

to all my Federal employee pals, I'm sorry this is happening.

[LUGR]

Maybe I missed it, but really bothers me that I have not heard even one of the three former presidents speak up against what has been happening over the past weeks.

[Atiba Applebum]

Maybe I missed it, but really bothers me that I have not heard even one of the three former presidents speak up against what has been happening over the past weeks.

Obama would be the only one of those four that would, but ex-Presidents tend not to criticize or make many political comments after their terms.  He said plenty on the campaign trail, but I don’t know what it would serve.   Nothing would excite maga people more than hearing Obama complain about them.  They can bury the news cycle in attacking back and making a meal out of the Jennifer Aniston rumors

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Maybe I missed it, but really bothers me that I have not heard even one of the three former presidents speak up against what has been happening over the past weeks.

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Obama would be the only one of those four that would, but ex-Presidents tend not to criticize or make many political comments after their terms.  He said plenty on the campaign trail, but I don’t know what it would serve.   Nothing would excite maga people more than hearing Obama complain about them.  They can bury the news cycle in attacking back and making a meal out of the Jennifer Aniston rumors

Yeah, and most sitting presidents tend not to disregard the constitution and put themselves above the law. You are definitely right about MAGA getting juicy about being able to complain about Obama complaining about Trump. I just would have liked to see them stand up and be part of the fight against what is going on. Would like to see every person of influence speak up about this shit.

[Mr. Pickles]

I’ve kind of had my head in the sand the last month, but I’ve noticed that even the pro trump people at work and even in my family are having a hard time with everything happening.

[TastyBurrito]

I’ve kind of had my head in the sand the last month, but I’ve noticed that even the pro trump people at work and even in my family are having a hard time with everything happening.

Keep reminding them that they wanted all of this and say “I hope you have the day you voted for.”

[RichardBarkley]

 I don't think a country has ever lost as much soft power than America has in the past month.

Utterly insane.

What they are doing with Ukraine is utterly reprehensible.

It's crazy how many Americans are fine with the whole world hating them.