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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #780 on: March 23, 2025, 04:19:53 PM »
Drugs lurper, drugs. That is why I like the idea of libertarianism, big ups trump for freeing Ross btw.

And I like Bernie cause I'm fine with socialism like I'm fine with libertarianism, I think you don't understand when I say I'm not locked into one political thought

Interesting.

The freedom to use drugs and alignment with libertarians make sense. I initially supported libertarians in high school for this same reason, but I couldn't continue this support long term with all the other policies the group had.

However, the Trump call out makes a little less sense. Trump praises countries that use the death penalty on drug dealers and said clearly, "I'm ready for the death penalty for drug dealers" https://youtu.be/4iyqZsE9bkA?si=_0xLEgughIN23roE&t=4040. His pardon of Ross seems not to reflect his feelings on drugs and how to approach them, but simply a give away to get cyrpto votes and people to buy his meme coins.

Also, the left has a strong history with wanting to de-criminalize drugs and led the way when it came to recreational marijuana. It isn't a perfect overlap but if we look at the election map and the map of where weed is recreationally legal, blue states are more likely to overlap with freedom here (https://covercannabis.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/us-cannabis-map-covercannabis.jpg and https://lamag.com/.image/t_share/MjEwNjM4OTMxNTAxMjYyODI1/2024-us-presidential-election-electoral-map---trump-vs-harris-.png).

As for not being locked into one thought, these are pretty strong differences. I have flexibility on some issues and none of us align perfectly with any party platform, but it is interesting to see that you can be supportive of two directly opposing cores of political thought.

Fair enough. Thanks for answering the questions.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #781 on: March 23, 2025, 05:48:19 PM »
It seems as though you’re not locked into much thought whatsoever.

That’s most libertarians for you.  Locked in a freshman year first bong rip thought exercise and think it’s a political stance.   

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #782 on: March 23, 2025, 06:26:14 PM »
Just a reminder there are Left-wing libertarians also aka Anarchists.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #783 on: March 23, 2025, 07:03:17 PM »
Just a reminder there are Left-wing libertarians also aka Anarchists.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #784 on: March 24, 2025, 10:03:29 AM »
Just a reminder there are Left-wing libertarians also aka Anarchists.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #785 on: March 24, 2025, 11:22:45 AM »
Just a reminder there are Left-wing libertarians also aka Anarchists.

I wonder if word's meaning has changed so much that it no longer applies. I know Paul Avrich used the term libertarian when describing anarcho-syndicalists (https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/paul-avrich-the-anarchists-of-the-russian-revolution) and anarcho-capitalsim had been used in the past and is currently used by some of the most annoying libertarians, but I feel anarchism and libertarianism need to be separated, despite being two sides of the same no government coin.

Anarchism is a belief in individualism but based on the assumption of the inherent good of people and value of sharing, empathy, respect, and disdain for capitalism. Libertarianism is a belief in the individual, but based on the assumption of the inherent bad in people and value in greed, selfishness, ruthlessness, and unreflective love of capitalism. One promotes freedom via mutual respect and the other promotes self-protection though disrespect and distrust.



And, in a bit of good news, since there is often so little with this new administration. Despite RFK's kookery around the measles out break banning direct to consumer pharma ads wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing
https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-rfk-jr-s-dislike-for-drug-tv-commercials-could-mean-for-the-ad-industry-41b08696

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #786 on: March 24, 2025, 05:54:13 PM »
So, who do you think Trump is going to blame this huge Signal App fiasco on? Hunter Biden? DEI? Trans people?

Obviously he's not going to paint this as big as a security threat as Hillary's emails, because while her email was secure, she was a woman. In this case, even though they used the same app I make skate session plans with the homies, they're Republican men, so it's really not apples and oranges, right?

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #787 on: March 24, 2025, 06:00:21 PM »
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #788 on: March 24, 2025, 06:27:29 PM »
So, who do you think Trump is going to blame this huge Signal App fiasco on? Hunter Biden? DEI? Trans people?

Obviously he's not going to paint this as big as a security threat as Hillary's emails, because while her email was secure, she was a woman. In this case, even though they used the same app I make skate session plans with the homies, they're Republican men, so it's really not apples and oranges, right?

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #789 on: March 24, 2025, 07:46:43 PM »
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The idea of Mayor Pete being the next presidential candidate is batshit stupid and if he himself doesn’t perceive that I have a lot less respect for him.

This might be shallow and glib but the next Democratic presidential candidate should be a handsome, straight, male. Possibly Latino. Possibly George Clooney. Only a woman if extremely hot.

It’s basically a high school student council election and democrats need to treat it thusly.
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #790 on: March 24, 2025, 07:47:53 PM »
So, who do you think Trump is going to blame this huge Signal App fiasco on? Hunter Biden? DEI? Trans people?

Obviously he's not going to paint this as big as a security threat as Hillary's emails, because while her email was secure, she was a woman. In this case, even though they used the same app I make skate session plans with the homies, they're Republican men, so it's really not apples and oranges, right?

/s


He just won't worry about it or truely acknowledge it.  He doesn't give a shit and neither do his followers, and no one else is doing shit.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #791 on: March 25, 2025, 02:17:44 AM »
I've been slacking the updates but cataloging all this shit is emotionally exhuasting.

A few small updates

NIH no longer funding climate change research. If we ignore it, it isn't real.
https://www.propublica.org/article/nih-funding-climate-change-public-health?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=majorinvestigations&utm_content=feature

Telsa no longer eligible for ev rebate in PEI 8)
https://www.ctvnews.ca/atlantic/prince-edward-island/article/pei-says-teslas-no-longer-eligible-for-electric-vehicle-rebate

Trump admin handling of internal documents is top notch
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/

Columbia Uni effectively bullied by Trump
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/24/nyregion/columbia-trump-response.html

IRS poor performance reasoning for cutting jobs obvious lie
https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-irs-firings-doge-fraud-law-job-performance

US refuses to clean up its mess in Vietnam
https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-halted-agent-orange-cleanup-dioxin-vietnam-poison-risk

Trump admin likely defies court order and makes up excuses not to give up information requested by judge
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/24/us/politics/judge-ruling-trump-deportations-alien-enemies-act.html

In trade war idiocy, Trump decides America should cut down its forests instead of getting better wood from Canada
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/02/climate/trump-logging-national-forests.html

US Perm Residents being threatened with deportation for challenging Bibi's murders (free speech absolutism)
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/24/nyregion/columbia-student-ice-suit-yunseo-chung.html

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #792 on: March 26, 2025, 08:36:39 AM »
The fact that turd isn't denying he's a puppet for Putin scares me. It just shows how obvious hes a useful idiot.

Now as far as my asylum as I'm Palestinian and Irish I'm not keeping my head down but definitely feel the looks around the Mississippi area. 

Just waiting for the night of long knives, he's already got his SS doing his bidding. How and why have the Democrats decided to do nothing?! To me it's insane...

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #793 on: March 26, 2025, 09:12:34 AM »
The fact that turd isn't denying he's a puppet for Putin scares me. It just shows how obvious hes a useful idiot.

Now as far as my asylum as I'm Palestinian and Irish I'm not keeping my head down but definitely feel the looks around the Mississippi area. 

Just waiting for the night of long knives, he's already got his SS doing his bidding. How and why have the Democrats decided to do nothing?! To me it's insane...

Love the Irish embraced the Paddystinian thing Zionists were trying to insult them with.  Stay safe

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #794 on: March 26, 2025, 09:50:46 AM »
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The fact that turd isn't denying he's a puppet for Putin scares me. It just shows how obvious hes a useful idiot.

Now as far as my asylum as I'm Palestinian and Irish I'm not keeping my head down but definitely feel the looks around the Mississippi area. 

Just waiting for the night of long knives, he's already got his SS doing his bidding. How and why have the Democrats decided to do nothing?! To me it's insane...
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Love the Irish embraced the Paddystinian thing Zionists were trying to insult them with.  Stay safe
Thanks mate, family immigrated to NYC then Mississippi 2015ish. It's been a trip as I live alone now. I feel for my ppl in Gaza as ethnic cleansing is happening, I'm pissed but I don't want to go back.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #795 on: March 28, 2025, 10:38:14 AM »
Russian paid propaganda reporter, Poo Boy, was added to the White House Press Pool to cover Orange Man.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/tim-pool-was-paid-by-russia-but-will-joins-white-house-press-pool/

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #796 on: March 28, 2025, 11:38:20 AM »
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #797 on: March 28, 2025, 11:57:41 AM »
Will that bald fuck be issued a state sanctioned beanie?! Find out next week on USABZ

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #798 on: March 28, 2025, 12:20:10 PM »

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #799 on: March 28, 2025, 04:22:54 PM »
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #800 on: March 28, 2025, 07:05:51 PM »
Greenlanders refuse to meet with VP of America's wife
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/greenland-visit-cancelled-after-locals-refuse-to-welcome-usha-vance-391306/

Musk--the free-speech absolutist--attempts to censor Reddit
https://archive.is/8PlKn

Make America Healthy Again by reducing funding for health in Illinois
https://www.nprillinois.org/news/2025-03-28/trump-administration-cuts-impact-the-departments-of-human-services-and-public-health-first-listen

Trump blocks federal union members from collective bargaining. (Anyone in a union who voted for Trump made a really stupid decision.)
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/trump-signs-executive-order-end-collective-bargaining-agencies-involve-rcna198618

Democrats had a good idea behind their expansion of broadband to rural areas, but too many hoops to jump through. Musk reaping benefits
https://jacobin.com/2025/03/musk-starlink-rural-internet-jobs

Furthering the idea that honest work is for sucks, Tim Pool's grift returns in a place in the white house reporter pool
https://www.thedailybeast.com/tim-pool-was-paid-by-russia-but-will-joins-white-house-press-pool

Scamming others is ok if you're friends with someone in the Trump admin
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/28/business/carlos-watson-ozy-media-trump.html

A little old, but worth having on record, while Trump muses death penalty for drug dealers, he is willing to pardon drug dealers if benefits him
https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/why-trump-freed-ross-ulbricht-the-silk-roads-dread-pirate-roberts

Musk sells Twitter to Himself
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/28/technology/musk-x-xai.html

10K cut from Health and Human services
https://apnews.com/article/health-human-services-layoffs-restructuring-rfk-jr-fa4e89285e668a3939e20b6cf4c26fd4

Trump attempts to silence legal dissent by targeting law firms via executive orders. Two fight back with legal challenges and one capitulates
https://www.reuters.com/legal/jenner-block-sues-us-government-following-trump-executive-order-2025-03-28/
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/28/business/jenner-block-wilmer-hale-trump-lawsuit.html

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #801 on: March 29, 2025, 06:51:57 AM »
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #802 on: March 29, 2025, 07:48:48 AM »
Looking at the protests in Serbia and Turkey why aren't Americans protesting.

This fucking scumbag is single handly destroying Americas soft power and reputation around the world while trying to start WW3.

Nevermind the fact that the majority of Americans voted for him. If you guys are all so upset why dont you take action?

It's not just for you it's for the rest of the world.
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #803 on: March 29, 2025, 07:59:19 AM »
I used to think rightwinger’s cries of “civil war coming” was just emotional hyperbole, but now I think it’s an inevitability.  No way through this mess without a lot of people dying.  Pretty surreal seeing this happen in real time
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« Reply #804 on: March 29, 2025, 08:06:20 AM »
I used to think rightwinger’s cries of “civil war coming” was just emotional hyperbole, but now I think it’s an inevitability.  No way through this mess without a lot of people dying.  Pretty surreal seeing this happen in real time

You really think this will lead to civil war?

Not challenging you just interested to hear a prospective from someone in America.
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« Reply #805 on: March 29, 2025, 08:33:02 AM »
I don’t know what a “civil war” would really look like in this day and age.   I think at least one state will be labeled “insurrectionist” or “terrorist” for not enforcing illegal executive orders, and I think the military will kill a lot of people and institute martial law.   If that qualifies as a civil war, then yeah. 

I think we’re real real close to disappearing citizens for their beliefs.  I think we’re real real close to domestic drone strikes.  I think a large scale massacre of protestors is a near certainty. 

Real, unironic, New World Order shit is happening.  They’re priming the public opinion for eugenics and genocide.  The “opposition” leaders are obeying in advance because they know it’s over.
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #806 on: March 29, 2025, 09:50:56 AM »
Looking at the protests in Serbia and Turkey why aren't Americans protesting.

This fucking scumbag is single handly destroying Americas soft power and reputation around the world while trying to start WW3.

Nevermind the fact that the majority of Americans voted for him. If you guys are all so upset why dont you take action?

It's not just for you it's for the rest of the world.

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« Reply #807 on: March 29, 2025, 10:14:11 AM »
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Looking at the protests in Serbia and Turkey why aren't Americans protesting.

This fucking scumbag is single handly destroying Americas soft power and reputation around the world while trying to start WW3.

Nevermind the fact that the majority of Americans voted for him. If you guys are all so upset why dont you take action?

It's not just for you it's for the rest of the world.
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #809 on: March 29, 2025, 03:42:40 PM »
Lol ain't nothing gonna happen. It's comfy here. Most Americans are psyched cause most Americans voted for this. Reminds me of when people say "late term capitalism" like we're not just getting started with this shit